Lineup Monday vs. Magic

[T-Will for MVP]

First time poster here but just seeing what yall thought the lineup and rotation should be come Monday barring any unexpected moves (such as Patterson not being able to play)? I say we roll like this:

Starters:

PG-Lowry
SG-Kmart
SF-Bud
PF-Scola
C-Dalembert (let him start and give him no other responsiblities than to do his best to contain D12)

Bench:

PG-Dragic
SG-Lee
SF-T Will
PF-Pat
C-Hill



Use Morris and Thabeet (assuming thats how the roster is filled out) if someone gets in foul trouble or for matchup purposes. I would be curious to see any team that has as quick and talented a second unit as we do. Team should be interesting regardless, as we will be tested early and often this season.


TWILL FOR MVP!!

[daywalker02]

Pat is not healthy until New Year's eve and that is a stretch!

Morris and Jhill in!

[daywalker02]

Nobody seems to be excited that we have Twin Towers again.

Jhill and Dalembert anyone?

[Rockets_Texans]

this rockets roster has a lot of depth on centers,pg's, sf's, and pf's

[ascaptjack]

TWILL 4 MVP baby!

[Rockets_Texans]

i this Marcus Morris should start. the guy looks like he has potential

[Rockets_Texans]

t-will for mvp.lets wait and see what happens.you never know

[T-Will for MVP]

Haven't heard the latest on Pat, last I heard he was gonna try and give it a go Monday. I say rest him, we have the depth. Anyways, I would prefer starting Lee or TWill over Bud strictly for defenses purposes but Bud will probably start. I think Bud is best suited to come off the bench anyways, but regardless I'm pretty pumped to have him, Kmart, Lee and TWill as our wings. And then Morris if need be. That's some serious depth right there, being a little bias I think all four of them could be starting elsewhere.

[daywalker02]

Haven't heard the latest on Pat, last I heard he was gonna try and give it a go Monday. I say rest him, we have the depth. Anyways, I would prefer starting Lee or TWill over Bud strictly for defenses purposes but Bud will probably start. I think Bud is best suited to come off the bench anyways, but regardless I'm pretty pumped to have him, Kmart, Lee and TWill as our wings. And then Morris if need be. That's some serious depth right there, being a little bias I think all four of them could be starting elsewhere.

Patterson’s goal

Rockets forward Patrick Patterson, coming back from offseason ankle surgery, has set a goal to return to the court, saying he hopes to play by the New Year’s Eve game.

“I have to get back my comfort on the court, tell my brain it’s OK to do certain moves with my ankle,” Patterson, 6-9, said after going through about a third of Thursday’s practice. “All in all, it felt good. These are steps to get back out there.

“I still had a tad of pain, a slight pinching every now and then. I don’t want to come out and play in a game and have to sit out the next game because my ankle is throbbing. I want to be out there 100 percent, no ankle pain.”

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2011/12/parsons-into-the-game-after-one-practice/

[rju1986]

Hill should start, as of now. We don't want to throw off his slowly rising confidence just yet. Dalembert and Hill will battle for start @practice soon enough, don't just throw him in there. This is a young team willing to learn, I wouldn't disrespect that.

[rju1986]

TWILL 4 MVP baby!

Wrong, I believe Our MVP is Kyle Lowry. He is the play maker and floor general. More important as of yet and thus far. Terrence has still got a LOT to prove.

[Htown's2kFinest]

To the OP. That's the exact lineup I was thinking they would use come Monday. But for some reason I think they might start Hill and work Sammy in. I hope I'm wrong cause I don't want to see Hill get destroyed by Dwight Howard. JHill plays best coming off the bench anyways.

[OremLK]

Hill should start, as of now. We don't want to throw off his slowly rising confidence just yet. Dalembert and Hill will battle for start @practice soon enough, don't just throw him in there. This is a young team willing to learn, I wouldn't disrespect that.

That's kind of stupid. We paid Dalembert to be our starting center to solve the problem we've had since losing Yao, which is a lack of interior presence at the center position.

Hill is also not big enough for the 5 (not a matter of height, he just lacks the bulk and strength needed).

You can't start Hill, the best you can do is let him get ~20 minutes per game backing up Scola and Dalembert.

[jayhow92]

Sammy will come off the bench for the first few games at least. He doesn't even fully know the offense or defensive schemes yet.

Lowry
Martin
Bud
Scola
Hill

Dragic
Lee
T-will/ Morris
Morris (he would be the best player to try and handle anderson)/ Adrien
Dalmebert

Lin Flynn Thabeet Parsons

[soccerstudsup]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408756_1513104797482_1530270250_31397953_1082497336_n.jpg

Saw a buddy of mine at target (12-23-11) whos going to start..

[daywalker02]

To the OP. That's the exact lineup I was thinking they would use come Monday. But for some reason I think they might start Hill and work Sammy in. I hope I'm wrong cause I don't want to see Hill get destroyed by Dwight Howard. JHill plays best coming off the bench anyways.

Dalembert said he isn’t in midseason game shape, but he is close enough to believe he could get there in four or five days. Rockets coach Kevin McHale will not ease him in and will not save Dalembert’s legs for Monday, needing them to be in game shape for the season as soon as possible.


http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=212568&page=5

[Rockets Jones]

I would love to see Sam against Dwight but since he has been lazy and out of shape, you have to punish him and let him come off the bench. Hill is probably going to get murdered but that's just something we are going to have to take.

[houston#1]

this rockets roster has a lot of depth on centers,pg's, sf's, and pf's

yep, that's why rockets will make playoff this year! Great work, morey.

[Dreamin]

I like the OPs line-up. They are the 10 most worthy of getting minutes ..... from what we have that is.

If T-Will and Hill step-up we will surprise a lot of teams. They are our weakest points. Huge High hopes on those two.

[pippendagimp]

Sammy will come off the bench for the first few games at least. He doesn't even fully know the offense or defensive schemes yet.

Lowry
Martin
Bud
Scola
Hill

Dragic
Lee
T-will/ Morris
Morris (he would be the best player to try and handle anderson)/ Adrien
Dalmebert

Lin Flynn Thabeet Parsons

u left out patterson. lin is probably the odd man out on cuts

[Cannonball]

u left out patterson. lin is probably the odd man out on cuts

Patterson isn't ready to play yet, right? So why would you expect him to be in the rotation for the Orlando game?

[pbthunder]

I like the OPs line-up. They are the 10 most worthy of getting minutes ..... from what we have that is.

If T-Will and Hill step-up we will surprise a lot of teams. They are our weakest points. Huge High hopes on those two.

Also, PPatt could make big strides this year.

[coolweather]

welcome to CF!

[rhino17]

Since when was Dalembert considered a definitive starter? There is nothing he has ever shown in his career that would make someone think he deserves a starting role from day 1

[AXG]

My guess is:

PG- Lowry
SG- Martin
SF- Budinger
PF - Scola
C- Hill

Basically it's what thy've been going with in preseason. Maybe by year's end (unless there's a trade, which there almost certainly would be):

PG- Lowry
SG - Martin
SF- Morris
PF- Scola
C- Dalembert

[Junebball]

Sometimes I am amused of the basketball knowledge of many posters in here. Thabeet hate in here puzzles me to say the least. How in the heck you start Hill against Dwight? We experimented this last year going with undersized center against all nba true centers, the results were lay up drill after another. Like someone alluded to in a different thread, Houston defense wasn't that bad last year only the lack of true center to secure the defensive boards killed the Rox more than anything. Last preseason game against San Antonio is another good example, the first unit with Hill playing center was getting murdered by the Spurs. The second unit with Thabeet providing much needed height, clearly played a solid defense as a unit. You start Thabeet, and you bring Hill to match up with Anderson who likes to hang on the perimeter shooting threes. Only problem with Thabeet is his conditioning which will come eventually with games. Have Sammy D and Thabeet alternate time against D Howard to actually make it a game.

[AXG]

Sometimes I am amused of the basketball knowledge of many posters in here. You start Thabeet...
And you're questioning us...?

[T FOR 3!!!]

My guess is:

PG- Lowry
SG- Martin
SF- Budinger
PF - Scola
C- Hill

Basically it's what thy've been going with in preseason. Maybe by year's end (unless there's a trade, which there almost certainly would be):

PG- Lowry
SG - Martin
SF- T-Will
PF- Morris
C- Dalembert

Fixed..

[jc9495]

Sometimes I am amused of the basketball knowledge of many posters in here. Thabeet hate in here puzzles me to say the least. How in the heck you start Hill against Dwight? We experimented this last year going with undersized center against all nba true centers, the results were lay up drill after another. Like someone alluded to in a different thread, Houston defense wasn't that bad last year only the lack of true center to secure the defensive boards killed the Rox more than anything. Last preseason game against San Antonio is another good example, the first unit with Hill playing center was getting murdered by the Spurs. The second unit with Thabeet providing much needed height, clearly played a solid defense as a unit. You start Thabeet, and you bring Hill to match up with Anderson who likes to hang on the perimeter shooting threes. Only problem with Thabeet is his conditioning which will come eventually with games. Have Sammy D and Thabeet alternate time against D Howard to actually make it a game.

Start Thabeet against Orlando? LMFAO.... Yeah, he had a nice block against SA, what about the 3 times he got beat down the court because he's out of shape? What about the time he let Duncan drive right past him to the rim? Thabeet is done, he's toast. He's essentially an expiring contract, that's his value with the Rockets at this point.

[Junebball]

Start Thabeet against Orlando? LMFAO.... Yeah, he had a nice block against SA, what about the 3 times he got beat down the court because he's out of shape? What about the time he let Duncan drive right past him to the rim? Thabeet is done, he's toast. He's essentially an expiring contract, that's his value with the Rockets at this point.

Thabeet was beaten once by Duncan, he took a wrong angle and Duncan drove to the basket no shame there afterall Duncan is a HoF. The 3 times you are talking about I didn't see, are you sure you didn't have Thabeet hate glasses on? We agree that he is not in a game shape, and that is why I said you alternate time between him and Sammy D.
The limited time I saw Thabeet this preseason I was encouraged. He is very active on the boards, he changes a lot of shots which I believe you don't see. Thabeet will prove a lot of people wrong this season

[DaDakota]

What is wrong with PPat, he may lose his spot if he doesn't come back soon.

DD

[opticon]

What is wrong with PPat, he may lose his spot if he doesn't come back soon.

DD

His ankle is not recovering from activity as fast as it should. If I had to to guess he will not be fully recovered from having those bone spurs removed till late January.

Your ankles take a beating when you play basketball I don't know what he was thinking getting the surgery done so late. He should have got it done in June. Instead of waiting till the Fall.

[Sadat X]

I keep forgetting we have D-Mo stashed in Europe. :grin:

[valorita]

Game strategy = let dwight get his 30/15 and do not double team. Contain their 3 point game. That is how the hawks won in playoffs. This will frustrate dwight and hopefully also leave a good impression of our team in his mind ;)

[Num1RoXfaN]

I believe a star in this league is created threw hard work and dedication. Morris looks like he has it, although minutes might be an issue. I believe if houston want to have a star they have it in morris they just have to let him start and let him do him. Let the men play let him learn from his mistakes.

[daywalker02]

What is wrong with PPat, he may lose his spot if he doesn't come back soon.

DD

Nothing is wrong. They don't want to rush him. I guess he will miss a game or two, maybe more.

[jayhow92]

I believe a star in this league is created threw hard work and dedication. Morris looks like he has it, although minutes might be an issue. I believe if houston want to have a star they have it in morris they just have to let him start and let him do him. Let the men play let him learn from his mistakes.

start? He has to earn those minutes from his hard work in practice and in the game. He may get a shot at starting later in the season he works for it.

[Someguy1229]

Our second unit is scary once Pat gets back.

[Roxs-Redemption]

Some questions before the game:

Is Patrick Patterson playing?
Is Lin still in our roster?
Will Morris get more playing time than Budinger?

[CheukLau]

First time poster here but just seeing what yall thought the lineup and rotation should be come Monday barring any unexpected moves (such as Patterson not being able to play)? I say we roll like this:

Starters:

PG-Lowry
SG-Kmart
SF-Bud
PF-Scola
C-Dalembert (let him start and give him no other responsiblities than to do his best to contain D12)

Bench:

PG-Dragic
SG-Lee
SF-T Will
PF-Pat
C-Hill



Use Morris and Thabeet (assuming thats how the roster is filled out) if someone gets in foul trouble or for matchup purposes. I would be curious to see any team that has as quick and talented a second unit as we do. Team should be interesting regardless, as we will be tested early and often this season.


TWILL FOR MVP!!
I don't feel it will be hard to contain D12, he is more of a beast in defensive end.

[rju1986]

That's kind of stupid. We paid Dalembert to be our starting center to solve the problem we've had since losing Yao, which is a lack of interior presence at the center position.

Hill is also not big enough for the 5 (not a matter of height, he just lacks the bulk and strength needed).

You can't start Hill, the best you can do is let him get ~20 minutes per game backing up Scola and Dalembert.

It isn't stupid, let him make the mistakes THAN replace him. But first see if he can prove it. It's called working on the young bucks sir. We've got a team option for Dalembert next season anyway. You dont want to ride him too hard- 10yrs in the league (not that he's showing it negatively, I'm impressed). On a side note though, Dalembert is the man and I'm digging his ferociousness; i'd have to lean with Sam starting pretty soon over Hill's more reoccurring defensive lapses and limited offense. But you'd still have to give him a chance, which Coach McHale has. You call it stupid? I call it trying to build character. Who are you kidding anyway, we aren't winning a championship this year..

15 boards aint so bad though, double-double :)