If Morey had signed Lebron, Wade and Bosh, would you stop bein a Rockets fan?

[Sleepy Flloyd]

Or would you stop bein a fan of your Houston Rockets and not want your team to win a championship because "its not fair", "theres no parity in da NBA", "the players are cheaters", "lebron is a doosh", "you hate lebron", "you hate wade", "you hate bosh", "they chose to come together to win", an you would preach to everyone about how much you hate your team, an how you aint a NBA fan no more cuz wat your team did was so dooshy.

Or would you be happy da Rockets was lucky enough ta get 3 good players an have a chance to win a bunch of titles for Houston? I would be.

[amaru]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz
- Jason Terry
- KG


Anybody else wouldn't make me quit liking the team.

[Sleepy Flloyd]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz
- Jason Terry
- KG


Anybody else wouldn't make me quit liking the team.

Hahahaha, I feel ya bro


Wat i really meant tho was more about havin a "Big 3" dat so many ppl so isnt fair.

[rn_xw]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz
- Jason Terry
- KG


Anybody else wouldn't make me quit liking the team.

I would be ok if we sign Al Jefferson.

[RV6]

Anyone who says yes is full of it. Winning solves everything when you're a fan. It's not like we're talking about signing criminals here, so that makes it even easier, or more likely, that people will change their stance.

[amaru]

I would be ok if we sign Al Jefferson.

I thought about Jefferson......but given his lack of defense, injury history and the fact that he is now the Jazz best player I said no lol

[Sleepy Flloyd]

Anyone who says yes is full of it. Winning solves everything when you're a fan. It's not like we're talking about signing criminals here, so that makes it even easier, or more likely, that people will change their stance.

I agree wit you Rv6, all these ppl who hate da Heat n Lebron Wade n Bosh SO MUCH WOULD LOVE THEM BOYS all in a Rockets uni at da same time n wouldnt be arguin for years about how unfair n cheap our team was, theyd be defendin our Rockets

[tofu--]

I wouldn't stop being a fan, but the titles we would win wouldn't make me feel good. And the way Lebron left Cleveland really didn't sit well with me so I would never like him, just as I don't like him now.

But no I wouldn't stop being a fan. I had the same dilemma when we got Pippen, who in my mind was always "the enemy" (and turned out to be fairly accurate). I'm still here so that's all that needs to be said about that issue.

[napalm_black]

The way some people write makes me automatically biased against them. It's a fault of mine.

[javal_lon]

I would only hate the fact that tickets prices would quadruple....

[Sleepy Flloyd]

I would only hate the fact that tickets prices would quadruple....

They sho would! :cool:

[clutch citizen]

Of course not. But I'm bias towards the Rockets. Since they're not, I hate them.

[shastarocket]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz


http://www.nationofblue.com/content/attachments/4195d1292769330-content_padgettdiary.jpg

[RoxSqaud]

I would hate all the bandwagoners.

I'm only Rockets fan I know in Alabama....but man do we have some Celtics, Lakers, Heat fans.

[Steve_Francis_rules]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz
- Jason Terry
- KG


Anybody else wouldn't make me quit liking the team.

Were you a fan when Shandon Anderson played for the Rockets?

[T.Mcgrady]

Your argument is based on faulty logic. I'll leave it to you to figure it out why.



www.miamiheatwave.com/ <- Join the others sympathetic to your views. **** the cHeat.

[T.Mcgrady]

Your argument is based on faulty logic. I'll leave it to you to figure out why.



www.miamiheatwave.com/ <- Join the others sympathetic to your views. **** the cHeat.

Fixed

[Garner]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz
- Jason Terry
- KG


Anybody else wouldn't make me quit liking the team.

I'd be pretty happy with Derrick Favors, personally.

[batkins]

Did original Heat fans stop being Heat fans when it happened? Hell no. They joined the pre-championship parade.

[Octavianus]

I would hate all the bandwagoners.

I'm only Rockets fan I know in Alabama....but man do we have some Celtics, Lakers, Heat fans.

So you would of hated all the YOF's that came on when Yao was drafted to the rockets?

[gmoney411]

I would have been very upset if we had ended up with Lebron because I would be forced to cheer for him. Also, if other teams fans said we had a manufactured team I would agree with them but that wouldn't stop me from cheering for the Rockets. If somebody in your family does something wrong you don't stop loving them but that doesn't mean you have to be proud of what they did and act like they did nothing wrong.

[clos4life]

I wouldn't stop being a Rockets fan but I would feel my rings would be diminished. Simple as that.

[apollo33]

I would go to Morey's house and give him a bj.

[kjhwang]

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[Jontro]

I would happy with Bosh and his 2 crafty sidekicks. Would be really embarrassed if it was done through a "decision" though.

This would be the only scenario where I would be cheering LerBon.

[solid]

My loyalty has been proven beyond question since the championship years and anyone who has hung in here since Les took over is with me. How many playoffs have we been to since 95? How many times past the first round? With all the goofy drafts, trades, and contracts I am a fan of any new talent regardless of who it is. Even the ole Jailblazers would be popular here. They would be jerks but they would be OUR jerks.

[jmwilliamson]

Not only would I still be a fan - but I'm honest enough to admit that though I have heavily criticized Lebron for "The Decision", if he did the same thing and came to the Rockets I bet I'd have come up with dozens of ways to defend that circus by now! Hypocritical? Sure. But I hated Barkley with a passion too - right up until the Rockets pulled off the blockbuster to acquire him. And while I had always found all of his media bravado to be obnoxious - miraculously, as soon as he was a Rocket it was charming to me! Hell, I'd have probably rooted for Stockton and Malone if they got traded to the Rockets. Okay. Maybe that's too far.

[B-Bob]

Of course I wouldn't quit cheering for the Rockets. BUT I'll tell you that I died a tiny bit when we made the trade for Barkley and made a "big three," who then made a big number two, while Sam I Am and Big Shot Bob had about a decade left for each of them.

When we had a big three (geriatric version), it felt kind of fake, contrived. I still cheered for them, even in those hideous pajamas they wore, but it was nothing like the 1994 championship team, where I watched a lot of those guys slowly get better and better and watched Rudy's system really start to flourish around Hakeem.

So, I would still be a Rockets fan, but it would not be at the normal enthused level. I guess that's kind of weird but there it is. It's always harder to get really fired up about an overdog.

[Octavianus]

Of course I wouldn't quit cheering for the Rockets. BUT I'll tell you that I died a tiny bit when we made the trade for Barkley and made a "big three," who then made a big number two, while Sam I Am and Big Shot Bob had about a decade left for each of them.

When we had a big three (geriatric version), it felt kind of fake, contrived. I still cheered for them, even in those hideous pajamas they wore, but it was nothing like the 1994 championship team, where I watched a lot of those guys slowly get better and better and watched Rudy's system really start to flourish around Hakeem.

So, I would still be a Rockets fan, but it would not be at the normal enthused level. I guess that's kind of weird but there it is. It's always harder to get really fired up about an overdog.

Wouldn't playing in the finals get you enthused again?
Also I remember when this trade when down, and injuries really damped the affect of the big 3.

[sbyang]

There's no real reason to hate the Heat. It's actually nice to see guys control their own future. Having said that, it's fun to root against the Heat. They are the NY Yankees of the NBA, they will have lots of hate but tons of bandwagon jumpers as well.

[amaru]

Were you a fan when Shandon Anderson played for the Rockets?

I've only been a Rockets fan since 2004.....and a NBA fan since early 2000

So........no I wasn't even aware of Anderson's existence back then.

[dback816]

I wouldn't stop being a fan, but the titles we would win wouldn't make me feel good. And the way Lebron left Cleveland really didn't sit well with me so I would never like him, just as I don't like him now.
.


The way he left Cleveland also put a hefty sum of money into charity.

How much did you donate this year?

[Kwame]

Just remember that Morey used his "advanced stats" to tell Bosh that him, LBJ, and D-Wade and bunch of role players would be a mediocre team.

[amaru]

Just remember that Morey used his "advanced stats" to tell Bosh that him, LBJ, and D-Wade and bunch of D-League players would be a mediocre team.


Fixed.....but Morey was obviously incorrect.

[dback816]

Fixed.....but Morey was obviously incorrect.

Bibby, Chalmers, Big Z with one leg, Haslem are D Leaguers?

[SacTown]

The big 3 on the heat are all good, clean-cut guys. None of them have been in any real trouble with the law. Guns, violence, thuggishness, DWIs, strip incidents. Nothing. It would be an honor to have any of them on the Rockets and Morey would be called a God amongst men around here and most of these guys in houston would be wearing lebron/wade jerseys. This city would be nuts right now.

[amaru]

Bibby, Chalmers, Big Z with one leg, Haslem are D Leaguers?

Chalmers, Haslem, Jones, Anthony, Miller, etc are all NBA caliber players. Some of them may have gotten their start in the D-League......but they are superior to most D-League players imho.

[meh]

I really hate it when people make polls that leave no wiggling room. Where's the middle ground?

For me personally, I would still be a Rockets fan, simply because I have rooted for the team for 20 years and will always root for anything Houston.

BUT

1. I would not feel nearly as great if and when we win than the 2 championship years, because it seems less about the Heart of a Champion and more about just trying to take the easy road. Similar to rooting for Mr. Burns' power plant softball team(minus the fun jokes).

2. I would feel like I have to share my fandom with Lebron/Wade fans, which make it seem like the team is somewhat not just for "Rockets fans" anymore. Similar to the Yao phenomenon, but more annoying due to reason #3.

3. If Morey had DRAFTED Lebron and Wade, then I would have no issues. If Morey had convinced Lebron and Wade to join because we have a very good nucleus, then I'd be a bit annoyed but ultimately won't care. But if all Morey did was clear cap to accomadate Lebron, Wade, and Bosh, it seems more like they're using the Rockets for its capspace more than actually wanting to come.

4. I know some of my statements are illogical, especially for a fan whose team hasn't done jack squat in 13 years. But I feel it's just not nearly satisfying when something is handed to you on a silver platter.

[Angkor Wat]

Yea right, this site would love those guys. As any fan of a team that got them would. Still don't want to see a Heat dynasty though.

[CJLarson]

I would be absolutely ecstatic. Truth is, I envy (original) Heat fans. That's not exactly the way I would like to have a team built, but doggone it they did what they had to do to be successful.

[wekko368]

The way he left Cleveland also put a hefty sum of money into charity.

What's your point? McGrady has raised a ton of money for charity. That doesn't change the fact he makes poor decisions.

And btw, "the decision" also put a hefty sum of money into the pockets of Lebron's friends.

How much did you donate this year?

Probably the same amount as Lebron James.

[david_rocket]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz
- Jason Terry
- KG


Anybody else wouldn't make me quit liking the team.

Would you stop being a rockets fan if D-Will was traded here instead of NJ?

[amaru]

Would you stop being a rockets fan if D-Will was traded here instead of NJ?

Probably not.

He was the Jazz player I was least bothered by.....and his trade sent them into rebuild mode.

Then again....he dispute with Sloan kinda worries me.

I wouldn't mind the trade.....but hey when you begging for an all-star you really can't be choosers

[blackistan]

interesting question bc as much as I hate lebron and bosh I wouldnt mind having them on my team obviously

[intergalactic]

I can't stand Lebron but if he came here I'm sure I'd still be a Rockets fan.

It sounds like hypocrisy but it really isn't. I don't have any problem with fans in Miami. They got lucky so they're entitled to enjoy it. I don't dislike Wade or Bosh or any of the other guys. It really all comes down to Lebron and the way he handled this mess. Sure, "the decision" was just one mistake. But for most people, the idea of doing something that insulting would never even enter their mind.

The Chuck comparison sums it up. Even if we won in '97, it could never be as sweet as '94 or '95 b/c of the way we brought Barkley in.

[jo mama]

if those 3 were introduced in the toyota center the way they were in miami, dancing onstage like f***ing clowns to generic hip-hop music, w/ lasers and smoke machines and going on about how they were going to win 5 or 6 titles then i would stop being a rockets fan. i just couldnt support or cheer for such douchebags.

[Scarface281]

I'd be talking so much **** if the Rockets had Wade, LeBron, and Bosh. I'd want the most arrogant Rockets fan award. But now? Not quiet in my fandom, but nothing to really be excited about, tbh.

[sammy]

if those 3 were introduced in the toyota center the way they were in miami, dancing onstage like f***ing clowns to generic hip-hop music, w/ lasers and smoke machines and going on about how they were going to win 5 or 6 titles then i would stop being a rockets fan. i just couldnt support or cheer for such douchebags.
Weird. I think most of us would be in attendance dancing like ******* clowns.

[Easy]

I almost stopped being a Rockets fan when we got Pippen. Fortunately, he quit before too long.

I'd probably still be a fan, but I'd feel kind of ashamed. And like someone said, I'd feel dirty cheering alongside with all those transplanted bandwagoners fans.

[MambaJoe]

There are only a few players that would make me stop being a fan if the were signed on the team.

They are as follows:

- ANY player from the Jazz
- Jason Terry
- KG


Anybody else wouldn't make me quit liking the team.

Yeah right, I bet you would still be a fan if we would acquire Deron Williams

[sammy]

Yeah right, I bet you would still be a fan if we would acquire Deron Williams
He addressed that in post # 43.

[Octavianus]

Morey wouldn't sign them, as he thought they would only win 45 games. lol

I guess people are forgetting the "Handing Morey the keys to there backdoor" thread, about what they would do or allow Morey to do them if he signed Lebron.

[fmp087]

So everyone saying they would stop being a Rockets fan if those 3 joined our team are basically saying your loyalty/fandom to the team for however long it may be is preceded by your hate for only a couple of players?

If that is the case than you guys are clearly not die hard fans even though I could understand it being hard to root for those guys.

[Octavianus]

http://rafer.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=188945&page=2

Here are some posts..

Morey if you are reading this, I hope you know that I will personally lick your balls for a year if lebron somehow lands in houston.

Im not sure a reward for getting us Lebron would be MANgina or a dude giving him a blow job. No, if Morey gets us Lebron Im kidnapping beyonce and leaving her naked on Morey's front lawn.

If we came from completely off the radar and somehow got LeBron James, I swear I will hunt Daryl Morey down and give him my anal virginity.

Realistically we arent getting him. If he does pull this off? I would owe Morey my left testical.

its a joke. calm down. no need to prove your heterosexuality.

on another note, i will personally blow daryl morey if he signs lebron james. any other rocket fan not willing to do so needs to reconsider his priorities and loyalties.

[wekko368]

Here are some posts..


Not really sure what your point is other than to troll....

[bullardfan]

So, would we be fans if the Rockets landed 2 of the best players in the NBA and one of the best bigs? What kind of question is that? I still wouldnt like the way Lebron went about dissing Cleveland but i would still be cheering for our team in the NBA finals.

and i think Octaviunuts would lick your balls regardless of whether Morey managed to get Lebron.

[Apps]

I would probably care less about the sport if my favorite team eventually just amassed the best players in the league. I mean, it would be cool for the Rockets to win a bunch of championships, but I'm naturally drawn towards home-grown teams and underdogs, so it wouldn't feel right rooting for a team that got lucky and pulled in superstars. It would mean less to me to say "I'm a Rockets fan".

[tellitlikeitis]

Did the OP start becoming a Heat fan for said reason?

Yeah, if that happened, my opinion on them as assclowns wouldn't change very much, but since said assclowns play for my team, I may as well root for them.

[flamingdts]

If we had these 3 as a Rocket, we also get Octavianus as a Rocket fan.

Is he the type of bandwagon fan you want licking your team's nuts?

That is the ultimate question, and I'm sure for some (like Tinman), they would average 50 posts a day trying to battle these bandwagoners for the real fan spot.

[Octavianus]

If we had these 3 as a Rocket, we also get Octavianus as a Rocket fan.

Is he the type of bandwagon fan you want licking your team's nuts?

That is the ultimate question, and I'm sure for some (like Tinman), they would average 50 posts a day trying to battle these bandwagoners for the real fan spot.

Really? This site has heaps of bandwagon fans, and it isn't a issue. YOF's Morey lovers to name a few. Doesn't seem to affect the board too much.

[amaru]

Yeah right, I bet you would still be a fan if we would acquire Deron Williams

Post # 43

[flamingdts]

Really? This site has heaps of bandwagon fans, and it isn't a issue. YOF's Morey lovers to name a few. Doesn't seem to affect the board too much.

Yes because we have bandwagon Rocket fans who support the Rockets only because of our GM Morey right?

And if this site "had" heaps of bandwagons fans, most of them would either be non-Rocket bandwagoners (such as yourself) or they are all but gone. The Rockets have nothing for bandwagoners to jump on.

You would know this if you were on this board for a longer period of time, except you haven't. YOF or TOF fans are all but gone on this site, and those who still hang around rarely post anymore.

And of course everyone on this board who has been hanging around for a while would know that YOF or TOF or whatever bandwagon fans were a huge problem on this board.

[Octavianus]

Yes because we have bandwagon Rocket fans who support the Rockets only because of our GM Morey right?

And if this site "had" heaps of bandwagons fans, most of them would either be non-Rocket bandwagoners (such as yourself) or they are all but gone. The Rockets have nothing for bandwagoners to jump on.

You would know this if you were on this board for a longer period of time, except you haven't. YOF or TOF fans are all but gone on this site, and those who still hang around rarely post anymore.

And of course everyone on this board who has been hanging around for a while would know that YOF or TOF or whatever bandwagon fans were a huge problem on this board.

YOF's still do exist, just go to any Amare or Dwight threads and you will see them. If you read one of my post, one of the reasons I stopped posting was for the YOF's, like the KOF's belittle anyone who is threatening there player.

I was asking Yao to be traded ages ago, and man, did that get flamed, yet I was right, as well as other posters who wanted to trade Yao, but got flammed.

Just like calling Morey a average GM, will get you flamed, as he has done a average job, but people think he is god around here.

I've been posting in the Heat threads since it day 1 of the season, and was flamed as well, for saying the Heat would not make the finals, Lebron was better then Durunt etc, but It was worth it, cause at the end, I was right, and don't care what other people think.

[flamingdts]

YOF's still do exist, just go to any Amare or Dwight threads and you will see them. If you read one of my post, one of the reasons I stopped posting was for the YOF's, like the KOF's belittle anyone who is threatening there player.

I was asking Yao to be traded ages ago, and man, did that get flamed, yet I was right, as well as other posters who wanted to trade Yao, but got flammed.

Just like calling Morey a average GM, will get you flamed, as he has done a average job, but people think he is god around here.

I've been posting in the Heat threads since it day 1 of the season, and was flamed as well, for saying the Heat would not make the finals, Lebron was better then Durunt etc, but It was worth it, cause at the end, I was right, and don't care what other people think.

So what?

And no you're not right, McGrady, Artest and Yao when healthy would have won the championship if they were healthy. McGrady was unhealthy that season, that was not Yao's fault. You were flamed accordingly. We had one shot at the title when we acquired Artest, we had no reason to trade Yao when that happened.

And ALOT of people here flame Morey, but I doubt you know that. If you think you're the only one receiving criticism for your arguments, something is wrong in your head. Everyone gets criticism, but you are probably the only poster on this board who goes PMS on anyone who suggests something you disagree with.

99% of this board knows Lebron is better than Durant. Your "clutchfans" myth shows how ignorant you are. Just because 50 poster (out of thousands) said Durant is better than Lebron does not make that the majority's opinion. Simple logic.

You hopped on the Heat bandwagon, good job sticking on to it. Try hopping on a team's wagon whose future does not look half as bright as the heat. Don't make yourself out like you're a dedicated fan, the heat bandwagon is a safe choice for any fair weathered fan to hop on and support.

[TheBookOfOlu]

I would hate all the bandwagoners.

I'm only Rockets fan I know in Alabama....but man do we have some Celtics, Lakers, Heat fans.

Amen, bandwagoners Should All Be Stoned To Death!!!

[Octavianus]

So what?

And no you're not right, McGrady, Artest and Yao when healthy would have won the championship if they were healthy. McGrady was unhealthy that season, that was not Yao's fault. You were flamed accordingly. We had one shot at the title when we acquired Artest, we had no reason to trade Yao when that happened.

And ALOT of people here flame Morey, but I doubt you know that. If you think you're the only one receiving criticism for your arguments, something is wrong in your head. Everyone gets criticism, but you are probably the only poster on this board who goes PMS on anyone who suggests something you disagree with.

99% of this board knows Lebron is better than Durant. Your "clutchfans" myth shows how ignorant you are. Just because 50 poster (out of thousands) said Durant is better than Lebron does not make that the majority's opinion. Simple logic.

You hopped on the Heat bandwagon, good job sticking on to it. Try hopping on a team's wagon whose future does not look half as bright as the heat. Don't make yourself out like you're a dedicated fan, the heat bandwagon is a safe choice for any fair weathered fan to hop on and support.

Regarding the Durant question check these threads out.

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=6466

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=6466

That's way more then 50 posters..

[Octavianus]

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/showthread.php?t=192749

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=185622

[conundrum]

Are you kidding me? 90 percent of this board thought Bosh would be our savior...

[Kruze10]

The big 3 on the heat are all good, clean-cut guys. None of them have been in any real trouble with the law. Guns, violence, thuggishness, DWIs, strip incidents. Nothing. It would be an honor to have any of them on the Rockets and Morey would be called a God amongst men around here and most of these guys in houston would be wearing lebron/wade jerseys. This city would be nuts right now.

^^This^^

[mortiki85]

Strange question, but I think this would push me to the brink of not watching anymore games until one of them got tired of the other (which is going to happen) and start to ship out. Sounds weird, but I'd still be a fan, just wouldn't like where the orginization would be going and wouldn't want to be a part of it until they started to disband. I'd be fine with Wade, but to hell with Lebron and Bosh. That being said, as many times as I've read on ClutchFans, I still think that they wouldn't be enough to please a lot of you. If we were to win 1 Championship, I think most people here would be wanting to trade one of the big 3 away (while they're still 'VALUABLE') to get some young pieces rather than building on what we have and not being (what has been a problem already), a revolving door of young and untapped talent.

[sinobball]

Are you kidding me? 90 percent of this board thought Bosh would be our savior...
It's funny, I was reading Yao Ming's twitter yesterday and I saw thisYaoMing Yao Ming
@ChrisBosh, Hey Chris, hopefully you'll play with us (Rockets) next season. I'll be healthy and I'd really look forward to playing together
30 Jun

[mortiki85]

Are you kidding me? 90 percent of this board thought Bosh would be our savior...

Hell yeah, almost everyone thought that...I'm happy to say that I'm the other 10%, he's way to overrated, to weak on the defensive end. Scola honestly is about the same type of player (more tough though), but plays his heart out every game, same can't be said for Bosh.

[flamingdts]

Regarding the Durant question check these threads out.

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=6466

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=6466

That's way more then 50 posters..

The poll asks if Durant will be better than James.

Nowhere does it say Durant IS better than James.

Durant is the only other wing player that could rival with Lebron James, and although it's a long shot, its a fair suggestion.

Seriously, what that evidence showed me is how insecure you are that you would think the board thinks Durant IS better than James when the question is whether he could be.

Why don't you make a poll asking whether Durant IS better than James and use that as evidence instead?

This goes all the way back when somebody said they hope Patterson would dunk on Bosh and somehow you spun that into thinking the person would rather have Patterson than Bosh on this team.

Maybe, just maybe, you are a little overly sensitive and should back down and stop accusing every Rocket fan here who does not love Miami Heat like you do a troll and hater.

[Prince]

you can still be rockets and heats fans at the same time...

[Qball]

No, but I would say we basically bought a championship if we won. It would have nothing on the back-to-back of glory days.

[Angkor Wat]

It's funny, I was reading Yao Ming's twitter yesterday and I saw this

Makes me cry seeing Yao tweeting about being healthy. :(

[gmoney411]

Just like calling Morey a average GM, will get you flamed, as he has done a average job, but people think he is god around here.

I don't love Morey but it is pretty hard to say that he has done an average job. If you look at all the moves he has made since becoming GM very few of them have been bad. Trading Yao or TMac was never his choice that was always up to Les. He has drafted solidly and has won a majority of the trades he has made. It is unfair to blame the guy for inheriting two injury prone stars that he could never trade even if he wanted to. Most teams would not be winning 40 plus a yr with 20-40MM on the bench every year.

[RocketRaccoon]

If I am still an Oilers fan, I sure as hell can still be a Rockets fan.

[Surfguy]

I'm having a hard time just being a NBA fan at this point. I think this James/Wade/Bosh trio and supporting cast are going to clean up on championships for the next five seasons at least. I don't think another team will be able to touch them as they continue to get better (barring any major setbacks). If you are asking me if I would want that for the Rockets, then hell yeah I would. It beats the hell out of losing.

But, somehow, I'll manage to remain a fan, come back, and watch the Rockets in their futile efforts in the future. It's not really that much fun when you know we have no chance, however. Well, a tiny chance that is less than 1 percent.

I just wish there was more competitive balance across teams not only in this sport but in all the major sports. It's an impossible wish.

[Easy]

Are you kidding me? 90 percent of this board thought Bosh would be our savior...
That was before Bosh showed his true color. IIRC a while back there was a poll asking if they wanted Scola or Bosh after they had seen what Bosh was really like. I think half of the board chose Scola.

[Outlier]

So what?

And no you're not right, McGrady, Artest and Yao when healthy would have won the championship if they were healthy. McGrady was unhealthy that season, that was not Yao's fault. You were flamed accordingly. We had one shot at the title when we acquired Artest, we had no reason to trade Yao when that happened.

And ALOT of people here flame Morey, but I doubt you know that. If you think you're the only one receiving criticism for your arguments, something is wrong in your head. Everyone gets criticism, but you are probably the only poster on this board who goes PMS on anyone who suggests something you disagree with.

99% of this board knows Lebron is better than Durant. Your "clutchfans" myth shows how ignorant you are. Just because 50 poster (out of thousands) said Durant is better than Lebron does not make that the majority's opinion. Simple logic.

You hopped on the Heat bandwagon, good job sticking on to it. Try hopping on a team's wagon whose future does not look half as bright as the heat. Don't make yourself out like you're a dedicated fan, the heat bandwagon is a safe choice for any fair weathered fan to hop on and support.

Yeah, seriously. Read this post over and over, Octav-anus.

[parmesh]

No, I'd be extremely proud of Morey, followed by a bit of dismay for overpaying the third wheel, followed by pride once he pillaged some other team to trade raptorface away. Or maybe he would just sign the big 2 and keep Scola (the preferred ending). Anyway, my point is that I'm a Rockets fan for life. I don't cheer for other team, even when the Rockets aren't playing. And I don't bandwagon. Now... the bandwagoners... I'd want to hurt those people.

[Octavianus]

The poll asks if Durant will be better than James.

Nowhere does it say Durant IS better than James.

Durant is the only other wing player that could rival with Lebron James, and although it's a long shot, its a fair suggestion.

Seriously, what that evidence showed me is how insecure you are that you would think the board thinks Durant IS better than James when the question is whether he could be.

Why don't you make a poll asking whether Durant IS better than James and use that as evidence instead?

This goes all the way back when somebody said they hope Patterson would dunk on Bosh and somehow you spun that into thinking the person would rather have Patterson than Bosh on this team.

Maybe, just maybe, you are a little overly sensitive and should back down and stop accusing every Rocket fan here who does not love Miami Heat like you do a troll and hater.

Actually, I have posts where people actually say Patterson is better, and if you read those Durant post's, people do say he is better.

I will be dealing with people like you who will deny that people said the Heat wound't make the playoffs etc, if the Heat win the finals, when the crow eating threads start up. No matter how many links I will post, people will not read them, or ignore them.

You have not read the Miami Heat Season thread I can tell, because if you did, you will see what Trolls and Haters are, and it will open your eyes.

[BleedRocketsRed]

Hahahaha, I feel ya bro


Wat i really meant tho was more about havin a "Big 3" dat so many ppl so isnt fair.

It is difficult because I really hate LeBron. As a person, as a player. I just can't stand the guy. He is such a dbag.

If it were a big 3 which had somebody like Melo or CP3 or Kobe or even Deron instead of LBJ, I'd be jumping up and down. Even if it had a vag like Bosh, I'd be celebrating.

But rooting for LBJ is just really difficult to me. After how he quit on Cleveland (watch that last Celtic series, they GAVE UP) and the manner in which he left Cleveland, it is difficult to root for him. And there is no denying that prior to this postseason, he rarely ever took over games late. He was a choker, he choked on multiple occasions. Hell, it was Boobie Gibson who stepped up big to lead them past the Pistons.

The guy has zero class (doesn't shake hands with Magic opponents after getting beat, acts like a little crybaby after he doesn't get a call or get a call against him). Guys like MJ/Kobe had swag, you just knew that they were the baddest mother****ers but they had class. This guy just comes off as a douchebag and he is just trash.

To answer the question, I probably would hop on the bandwagon (well I guess stay on is the better term since I am a Rockets fan til I die). I probably would become one of those asshole "you mad" trolls like Octiv Anus or SacTown or tmac1. I would sell out my integrity as a basketball fan and stoop down to that level. But only if I stay true as a Rockets fan because I truly love this franchise.

[BleedRocketsRed]

Just remember that Morey used his "advanced stats" to tell Bosh that him, LBJ, and D-Wade and bunch of role players would be a mediocre team.

IT WAS A ****ING SALES PITCH WHICH USED THE WORST BASKETBALL PLAYERS EVER FOR SOME TYPE OF A SIMULATION.

WHY CAN'T YOUR TINY BRAIN COMPREHEND THAT?

[BleedRocketsRed]

Actually, I have posts where people actually say Patterson is better, and if you read those Durant post's, people do say he is better.

I will be dealing with people like you who will deny that people said the Heat wound't make the playoffs etc, if the Heat win the finals, when the crow eating threads start up. No matter how many links I will post, people will not read them, or ignore them.

You have not read the Miami Heat Season thread I can tell, because if you did, you will see what Trolls and Haters are, and it will open your eyes.

I'd like to see the posts of people who said Patterson is better.

I have a feeling that they said he will be (a prediction) and your tiny brain was unable to comprehend.

[smoothie]

i root for my team no matter who plays for them.

the superfriends are a-holes no matter who they play for.

if they played for the rockets i would still root for my team, and the superfriends would still be a-holes.

[Kwame]

IT WAS A ****ING SALES PITCH WHICH USED THE WORST BASKETBALL PLAYERS EVER FOR SOME TYPE OF A SIMULATION.

WHY CAN'T YOUR TINY BRAIN COMPREHEND THAT?

"If he forms a triumvirate with LeBron James and Dwyane Wade in Miami, the Rockets believe the team won't have enough supporting talent to support a championship team. The Rockets believe such a pairing would produce a 45-win team."

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17346/the-rockets-pitch-to-bosh

So do you think Morey just lied and manipulated the numbers or is stupid and incompetent?

[BleedRocketsRed]

"If he forms a triumvirate with LeBron James and Dwyane Wade in Miami, the Rockets believe the team won't have enough supporting talent to support a championship team. The Rockets believe such a pairing would produce a 45-win team."

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17346/the-rockets-pitch-to-bosh

So do you think Morey just lied and manipulated the numbers or is stupid and incompetent?

Lied and manipulauted numbers.

Clearly.

It was a sales pitch.

The goal wasn't to prove that Miami would suck the goal was to get Bosh (why he wanted Bosh, I have no idea). He doesn't care about how Miami does, he is trying to tell Bosh that Houston is a better option than Miami.

Is it really that difficult to understand? Why are you not getting this?

Do you realize how stupid you look?

[R0ckets03]

Where is the option for:

I would build a church in the name of Morey and worship him for the God that he is.

[Kwame]

Lied and manipulauted numbers.

Clearly.

It was a sales pitch.

The goal wasn't to prove that Miami would suck the goal was to get Bosh (why he wanted Bosh, I have no idea). He doesn't care about how Miami does, he is trying to tell Bosh that Houston is a better option than Miami.

Is it really that difficult to understand? Why are you not getting this?

Do you realize how stupid you look?

Where are you to preach to all the Morey worshipers on this site who take every word that comes out of his mouth as gospel then? You criticize something Morey says and you get viciously attacked by his supporters. They don't believe he lies. They don't believe his "advanced" stats can be manipulated. I'm glad you're acknowledging that he lies and manipulates numbers. Either way, with the Heat on the cusp of a championship, he looks pretty stupid as a result of that presentation.

[BleedRocketsRed]

Where are you to preach to all the Morey worshipers on this site who take every word that comes out of his mouth as gospel then? You criticize something Morey says and you get viciously attacked by his supporters. They don't believe he lies. They don't believe his "advanced" stats can be manipulated. I'm glad you're acknowledging that he lies and manipulates numbers. Either way, with the Heat on the cusp of a championship, he looks pretty stupid as a result of that presentation.

So the fact that numbers can be manipulated is news to you? Maybe he used numbers assuming Wade+James+Bosh+5' tall elementary school kids or D-Leaguers/minor leaguers. Once again, it doesn't mean anything.

You are the only person who thinks he looks stupid as a result of this. And as a result, you are the only person looking stupid.

It was a sales pitch. He doesn't care about how Miami does. His intent was to talk Bosh out of Miami and get him into Houston. Once again, why are you not understanding this? How is it that hard of a concept?


What do you expect him to say? Something along the lines of "in Miami, your team will win 60 games and probably the championship while in Houston, our superstar bigman will probably get injured we might make it to the postseason but wouldn't get very far." Which one would you choose? Yeah I'd prefer Morey's pitch with the lies and the manipulating of numbers over that pitch.

[Kwame]

So the fact that numbers can be manipulated is news to you?.

It's not news to me. I don't know where you are getting this from. It may be a devastating reality to some of his most ardent supporters, but not me.

Maybe he used numbers assuming Wade+James+Bosh+5' tall elementary school kids or D-Leaguers/minor leaguers. Once again, it doesn't mean anything.

He didn't do that. Yes, it does mean something. It shows that his presentation was absolutely ridiculous.

You are the only person who thinks he looks stupid as a result of this. And as a result, you are the only person looking stupid.

You can label his presentation whatever you want, but the fact of the matter remains that Morey looks stupid for the things that he said, especially considering how the Heat are in the NBA Finals and 2 wins away from an NBA championship.


It was a sales pitch. He doesn't care about how Miami does. His intent was to talk Bosh out of Miami and get him into Houston. Once again, why are you not understanding this? How is it that hard of a concept?

He's not much of a salesman if he has to lie and manipulate numbers to try and trick somebody into not signing with a team that is currently about to win a championship. Most people would characterize salesmen who used those types of tactics and strategies in very harsh terms.

What do you expect him to say? Something along the lines of "in Miami, your team will win 60 games and probably the championship while in Houston, our superstar bigman will probably get injured we might make it to the postseason but wouldn't get very far." Which one would you choose? Yeah I'd prefer Morey's pitch with the lies and the manipulating of numbers over that pitch.

Your preferences are irrelevant. Despite what you may think or may say, it still doesn't take away from the fact that he looks pretty stupid and silly for that gimmicky presentation filled with lies, manipulated numbers, and dishonesty.

[flamingdts]

Actually, I have posts where people actually say Patterson is better, and if you read those Durant post's, people do say he is better.

I will be dealing with people like you who will deny that people said the Heat wound't make the playoffs etc, if the Heat win the finals, when the crow eating threads start up. No matter how many links I will post, people will not read them, or ignore them.

You have not read the Miami Heat Season thread I can tell, because if you did, you will see what Trolls and Haters are, and it will open your eyes.

What do you mean you will be "dealing" with.

For God sakes' you're not half as important as your think you are and your Miami Heat certainly isn't a quarter as important to this board than you think it is.

Of course people said they wouldn't make the Heat, there are also people who say Kobe is better than Jordan, or Bogut is better than Olajuwon. These people exist, I never said they didn't. You did. You spun this crap up again. Do you see what the problem is?

And I have read the Miami thread, or bits of it. This is a Rocket fanboard, nobody cares about the Miami heat as much as you do. Trust me, you're the troll around here with the way you act.

Seriously just stop making this thread about you and the Miami Heat. The superfriends did it, doesn't mean the bandwagon fans have to too.

And please do find me 10 posts where people said Patterson IS better than Bosh. You couldn't even link evidence suggesting people here think Durant IS better than Lebron (if you can't tell the difference, one concerns the future the other concerns the present).

If you can't, maybe you should take that stupid smug signature off and respect this board for once.

[Outlier]

What do you mean you will be "dealing" with.

For God sakes' you're not half as important as your think you are and your Miami Heat certainly isn't a quarter as important to this board than you think it is.

Of course people said they wouldn't make the Heat, there are also people who say Kobe is better than Jordan, or Bogut is better than Olajuwon. These people exist, I never said they didn't. You did. You spun this crap up again. Do you see what the problem is?

And I have read the Miami thread, or bits of it. This is a Rocket fanboard, nobody cares about the Miami heat as much as you do. Trust me, you're the troll around here with the way you act.

Seriously just stop making this thread about you and the Miami Heat. The superfriends did it, doesn't mean the bandwagon fans have to too.

And please do find me 10 posts where people said Patterson IS better than Bosh. You couldn't even link evidence suggesting people here think Durant IS better than Lebron (if you can't tell the difference, one concerns the future the other concerns the present).

If you can't, maybe you should take that stupid smug signature off and respect this board for once.

The voice of reason. Repped.

For the record, I don't have a problem with all heat fans, just those who act like children. (ApUn, SacTown, Octavanius, that other guy who worships Oct, and probably missing one or two more)

[danoman]

I would still watch them.....i remember that a few fans said they would personally suck morey's pipe if he was able to do smaller moves than the one on the title, I cant imagine what they would have done to morey if he actually pulled this off:grin:

[Seven]

I hate how they would add bandwagon fans to the Rockets. When watching Miami fans, all I can think about is…”those guys aren’t real fans”

I would hate the bandwagon players. Players will flock to Houston for the chance of a championship. Old players like Tmac will start campaigning to get on the team. This is as annoying to me as the bandwagon fans.

The trio would be dangerous, but I hate how they score 90 percent of the team’s points. Not only that, but we’d lose a lot of our current players. We’ve seen Lowry, Hayes, Lee, and Scola fight night in and night out. Part of me wants see some of the players grow.

Those players have no loyalty to the Rockets. You can tell that Yao, Lowry, and Scola love it here, and the next time they’re free-agents they won’t just jet like Lebron did.

Bottom line is almost nobody will quit cheering for their team because of personnel. That’s silly. However, it would have a different feel and atmosphere. If they win a championship...I would feel that they didn’t deserve it as much as our previous championship teams.

The victories aren’t as satisfying for a team that is instantly good versus a team that grows into that champion caliber team.

When we got Tracy, I was ecstatic, but he showed that nothing is guaranteed. Who would have known that we wouldn’t get out of the first round with Tracy McGrady? Even if we get the big three, we won’t be guaranteed championships. This happen...injuries happen.

[rocketfan21]

Were you a fan when Shandon Anderson played for the Rockets?

lol first thing I thought. I hate the Jazz, but come on.

[GATER]

I wouldn't root for LeBum "Queen" James if I effin' owned the Rockets.

[lean]

Of course I would still be a fan, this is my city and this is my team. That's the only situation I think this "superstars joining together" scenario should be allowed... on the Rockets. (:

[James Gabriel]

Although i don't like Lebron, I love the Rockets more than any other team in the NBA, So...

Go LBJ. Bring 8 titles to Houston, lol.