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popeye
11-14-1999, 12:30 PM
So we're 2-5. What next?

Give your predictions for the following games. Mine is in parenthesis.


Mon 15 Indiana W First true test in last four games. Rockets will run ragged,and we are treyed all night by the Pacers, but our inside game prevails. Rockets spacing and containment defense are the keys in this game. We are learning the "easy game",although this will not be an easy game. A two point win.

Tue 16 at DallasWCloser game than anyone imagined, guards verses guards make it interesting. Foreigners make a run for the Mav's but a squeaker win for the Red Glare.

Thu 18 SacramentoWThis team may give us fits all season long. They have veterans and speed. Same as us,only a year to play together.Fun matchups at every position.
We will win at home for this one. Barely.

Sat 20 at SeattleLThis will be another fun-to-watch matchup game with GP and Stevie playing their games. Francis will be more up and ready for GP this time, but they are playing at home. They have surprised every team this year, with their cohesive straight forward offense, and we will be surprised also. Rockets lose in the final two shots by three points. Guess who takes the shot?

Sun 21 at SacramentoLSee above. Thay are playing at home. Another good matchup. Great game under the basket. We are tired have no legs in the fourth. Our loss by seven or eight.

Tue 23 DallasW or L? Can't call this one!! What is it with Dallas that they love to beat us at Compaq? They will especially do damage if some IR guys like Trent are playing up to potential. The guard positions again will be the key. The last three games will have Francis either super tired or pumped to grind. Too close to call for a win and I can't live with calling it a lose. LOL

Fri 26 at PortlandL This will be a lot closer than anyone expects. It will be rough. It will be "T" time. If the media-hyped intrique, the ball hoggin' in-fighting on these two "depth teams" and all the "finesse versus raw talent" isn't enough, then ya'll don't get enough fibre in your diet. This will be one of the best NBA games so far this year from anyone's perspective. Even Bob Costas. Strategy will win. Not talent. Not depth. It will be close. We are playing the best of the West. We will come up short.

Mon 29 at VancouverW A good competitive game which we should win from all and every account ... unless we take them too lightly. Injuries to Grant Long and Big Dog may seal their coffin. Fun to see our little brothers play. I saw a Griz game this year and they look awkward at times, but the team has super promise this season. Bibby and Dickerson have great chemistry in the backcourt and Shareef is a "Go To Guy" on any team. Not enough for them though. Game over by the third quarter.

End result: by December 1 we will be around .500 (7-8)

Considering all the doom and gloom and the lessons learned,I can live with that.

360degree
11-14-1999, 12:51 PM
Pops,

Not going into the reasons why, I state for the record that I agree with your ascertion that we will be around .500 starting later this week.

The key in the whole string to me is Monday. They come out flat against these guys and the bubble will be burst and it could trigger another bad run. However, a good solid win over a top team like the Pacers, at home, will do wonders for the chemistry and confidence that this team (and I do finally see team in their play - including the big two) really needs.

[This message has been edited by 360degree (edited November 14, 1999).]

thacabbage
11-14-1999, 04:36 PM
Indiana: L
Dallas: W
Sacramento: L
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: L
Portland: L
Vancouver: W

4-11...

Francis3
11-14-1999, 04:50 PM
Cabbage are you serious?

GermanRocket
11-14-1999, 05:10 PM
Indiana: W
Dallas: W
Sacramento: L
Seattle: W
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: L
Vancouver: W

7-8

thacabbage
11-14-1999, 05:12 PM
Francis3:

Nope. I just don't want to set too high expectations for the team, or I might find myself disappointed.

popeye
11-14-1999, 06:40 PM
LOL Cabman.

Still playing the pessimist to my optimism I see.

[or is that your yang to my ying, or my yang to your .... oh never mind! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif]

Air Francis
11-14-1999, 08:44 PM
You guys are kidding. They beat 2 of the worst teams around. The Warriors were on the second day of a back-to-back.

The Rockets aer getting better but Dream is still missing a lot of shots and Barkley is not much better. They are still making lots of mistakes and wasting possessions.

Indiana: L
Dallas: L
Sacramento: W
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: L
Vancouver: W

5-10 at Dec 1

thacabbage
11-14-1999, 10:48 PM
BUT, on an optimistic note:

The NBA is all about momentum, and if the Rockets can somehow squeak out a win Monday night, it could really do wonders for this team's morale. They need to take advantage of the Pacers' backcourt weaknesses, tommorrow night. Attack Miller and Jackson. Start Cato and Rogers. This will allow Charles to destroy the Pacers' bench, and will keep the athletically challenged Walt Williams clear away from Jalen Rose. Oh yea, make sure Bryce Drew is not in the game at the same time Travis Best is.

FrancisRox
11-14-1999, 11:28 PM
Better yet why not limit bryce to picking up the little gatorade cups. If he's good at that give him a shot at towel boy...maybe

Cohen
11-15-1999, 01:41 AM
A fun respite from the negativos. What the hey, let's add points...

Indiana: W, 7 (or 11) pts
Dallas: W, 3pts
Sacramento: L, 6pts
Seattle: W, 2pts
Sacramento: L, 1 pt
Dallas: W, 8pts
Portland: L, 13 pts
Vancouver: W, 18 pts

Rocketeer
11-15-1999, 02:05 AM
Indiana: L
Dallas: W
Sacramento: W
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: L
Vancouver: W
6-9

The Rockets back to back shouldnt be that tyring anymore since the only old guys are Dream Chuck and maybe T-Mass. I look forward to Steve taking total control in those back to back situations along with our young guys.

Axeman
11-15-1999, 03:38 AM
Indiana: L
Dallas: W
Sacramento: L
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: L
Vancouver: L
5-10

Vancouver's backcourt will out run and out gun ours. Othella will finally get his chance to show up Barkley - and he will deliver.

Portland will completely destroy our team. Completely. Let's just hope it's not by 40 points.

Sacramento will win a couple of close games against us. They may not seem that good, but they are still better than us.

Dallas sucks and, unlike last year, we will find a way to beat them in both the home and road games.

Seattle - once again, backcourt will prevail. Maxwell/Payton combination will be too much in the end.

Indiana - NO CONTEST. Sorry, we beat two crappy teams this weekend, and this is far from a crappy team. They will also destroy us much like the Blazers. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

Air Francis
11-15-1999, 03:49 AM
ok, if anyone picks all the winners correctly in these 8 games, then we have to refer to them as "ye ol King of ClutchCity" for a week.

Popeye, since yous said 7-8, I'll assume you picked them to beat Dallas twice.

thedreamshake99
11-15-1999, 04:08 AM
In the two Rocket wins, their opponents were missing 2 or 3 major pieces, and neither one was a sounding vicory. Both those teams (without the players) combined couldn't contend for a CBA title.

Indiana- That team is all about what the Rox are striving to be. A chemistry laiden team. Hak has severe trouble against big plodding centers, considering how he's played against Jon Ameachi, John Salley, and whatever they call a center in Golden state, watch out. Take Indy

Dallas- Are you guys recalling that we officially have the longest team losing streak to the Mavericks? (Not sure just gussing) Dallas always seems to give the Rox fits, and Hakeem will agains struggle against the tall plodding center, and Ill give the Mavs the win because they are at home.

Sacremento- They are tough all around. I consider them to have the best all around starting five in the league. The Rox desperately need a home win now. Rudy sees that Vlade, and Webber can hold their own, and them some against Hakeem and Chuck in the middle, giving the game to Francis, Mobley, and Anderson. Sprinkle in a little Carlos and its close. The determining factor is whether or not the Rox want a home win bad enough. Toss up.

Seattle- Gary Payton is all they'll need to stay close in this game. But give it to the Rox. The sonics have been playing great team Ball so far, but the Rox should be able to corrale a win over this lagging team in contenders clothing.

Sacremento-Take the Kings because they are at home. If you guys haven't caught a Kings home game yet, WOW. Talk about home court advantage. That team gets hyped out there. Kings blow past the Rox.

Dallas. Steve Nash shoots 3-19, Michael Finley goes for over 30, but no one else comes to play. Rox win

Portland. Compounded by the fact that not only are the Rox playing the best team, but its at their rocous arena, and the Rox are minced meat. Hakeem struggles against a rotation of Wallace, Sabonis, and Oneal. Francis toasts Damon. Williams burns Pipp with an array of pump fakes (see last year) but everywhere else the Blazers mash the Rox.

Vancouver- Vancouver has the home crowd, and a much, much more improved team, but the Rox are too much inside for Oakley, and Big country Time Lemonade. Hakeem abuses Oster...err Reeves, Barkley has a solid game, but Williams gets eaten alive by Rahim. The battle in the Backcourt is a draw as Francis shines, and Anderson struggles against Anderson 2, and Bibby has a solid game.

Either 3-5 or 4-4.

popeye
11-15-1999, 10:14 AM
AirFrance:

Actually I supposed it should be either 6-9 or 7-8. Like I said I have my doubts about one of the two Mav games. Too chicken to call it 0-2 and too embarassed to call it a Dallas sweep.
For argument's sake let's give me an edge at 6-9 on December 1,1999. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif

Dreamshake:

So is that 5-10 or 6-9 on December 1,1999?

popeye
11-15-1999, 10:16 AM
The Book on December Standings(W:L)

popeye...................... 6-9
CabbageHead................. 4-11
EuroChocoletRockolet........ 7-8
AeroFrancisco............... 5-10
Leonard the Cohen........... 7-8
RocketeerOuttaHeer.......... 6-9
HatchetMan.................. 5-10
Shake-A-Lake-A-Lam-Dam-Doo.. 6-9
GreekJammer(I Like your Thoughts)10-5

Sorry if I forgot anyone? Just add a post,and I will edit as necessary.



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PhiSlammaJamma
11-15-1999, 10:25 AM
Indiana: W (87-83)
Dallas: W (124-100)
Sacramento: W(112-106)
Seattle: W (98-97)
Sacramento: W (111-103)
Dallas: W (79-72)
Portland: W (101-82)
Vancouver: W (95-86)

10-5

Sleepy
11-15-1999, 11:04 AM
A long Road Ahead.
INY-L
DALL-W
SAC-L
SEA-L
DALL-W
POR-L
VAN-L
THIS TEAM NEEDS A A VETERAN POINT GUARD.
NO NOT DREW CAREY.

RocketScientist
11-15-1999, 11:47 AM
Indiana: W - We have momentum...it's possible
Dallas: W - We will pull this one out
Sacramento: W - keep the streak going + home
Seattle: L - This will be a measuring stick of progress
Sacramento: L - Away, and with vengeance in their mind
Dallas: W - Will pull this off at home
Portland: L - I want this one bad, but away
Vancouver: W - Our previous starters may be pissed, but I don't think can handle us.

7-8 by Dec 1st


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-Peace to the Believers

4chuckie
11-15-1999, 12:17 PM
Indiana - L (Veteran team too tough early in season)
@ Dallas - W (Dallas jinx is over)
Sacramento - W (Lot of running- great game to watch!)
@ Seattle - L (Gary Payton is out to prove a point in this game)
@ Sac - W (Momentum from 1st meeting carries us in this one)
Dallas - W (Jinx is already broken)
@ Portland - W (Probably wishful thinking, but I think Rockets come out w/ a vengenance)
@ Van - W (COuld loose this game if we do beat Portland in an emotional game)
6-2 for the month (call me the eternal optimist after 2 wins!)

Dr of Dunk
11-15-1999, 12:18 PM
Indiana: W
Dallas: W
Sacramento: L
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: L
Vancouver: W

6-9...



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Rocket fuel pumps through these veins...

Iggy
11-15-1999, 02:10 PM
Some of our loses could have been wins with better freethrow shooting and less unforced turnovers. I think that is reason enough for optimism.

Indiana: W
Dallas: W
Sacramento: W
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: W
Vancouver: L

A win over Portland because Kelvin, Walt and Carlos have something to prove. Reverse the theory for the Grizz.

Axeman
11-15-1999, 02:17 PM
This is going to be fun to see how this all pans out...

ROCKSS
11-15-1999, 03:02 PM
Indiana-W
Dallas-L
Sacramento-L
Seattle-W
Sacramanto-L
Dallas-L
Portland-W I REALLY want this one http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif
Vancouver-W
6-9

MoDunks
11-15-1999, 03:08 PM
Indian: W
Dallas: W
Sacramento: W
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: W (Barkley throws Quitten into crowd)
Vancouver: W (Barkley suspended, still win)

8-7

GermanRocket
11-15-1999, 03:16 PM
LOL, MoDunks. tds99...FYI...Oakley plays in Canada, but not in Vancouver.

I like PhiSlammaJamma's prediction....glad I didn't make that one, because probably someone would have gotten on my case already...;-)

No Worries
11-15-1999, 03:20 PM
Indiana - L (1st game of a back to back for Pacers, damn)
at Dallas - L (2nd game of a back to back for Rocks)
Sacramento - L (1st game of a back to back for Kings, damn)
at Seattle - L
at Sacramento - L (2nd game of a back to back for Rocks)
Dallas - W
at Portland - L
at Vancouver - W

4-11

The home games against Indiana and Sacramento should be close. Indiana has to play the Spurs the next night, so we may be able to catch them looking ahead. The Kings play Dallas their next night, but they won't need to be looking ahead http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/frown.gif

The home game against Dallas is looking to be a must win.

GermanRocket
11-15-1999, 03:22 PM
That's what you call No Worries?

;-)

BrianKagy
11-15-1999, 04:28 PM
You know something? Screw it. I'm with Phi Slamma Jamma:

Indiana: W (135-52)
Dallas: W (124-19)
Sacramento: W(130-58)
Seattle: W (108-26)
Sacramento: W (111-1)
Dallas: W (170-72)
Portland: W (205-0)
Vancouver: W (95-86)

Damn straight.

thacabbage
11-15-1999, 05:28 PM
Why don't we just predict the rest of the season while we're at it?

82 and 0 BABY!!

BrianKagy
11-15-1999, 06:15 PM
That could never happen, my produce-monikered friend.

We've already lost five games.

77-5 BABY!!!

popeye
11-15-1999, 11:47 PM
The Book on December Standings(W:L)

<center>UPDATED<center>

popeye...................... 6-9
CabbageHead................. 4-11
EuroChocoletRockolet........ 7-8
AeroFrancisco............... 5-10
Leonard the Cohen........... 7-8
RocketeerOuttaHeer.......... 6-9
HatchetMan.................. 4-11
Shake-A-Lake-A-Lam-Dam-Doo.. 6-9
GreekJammer................. 10-5
Tired Dwarf................. 4-11
BrainyScienceNerd........... 7-8
Brakley'sBro................ 8-7
Surgeon d'Basquette......... 6-9
IggyPopAlleyOop............. 7-8
RockHardAss................. 6-9
BoHunkMoDink................ 8-7
A.E.NeumanWorryWart......... 4-11
BigBKBurgerKing............. 10-5
CabbageHead(Amended)........ 77-5

thacabbage
11-15-1999, 11:49 PM
NO, not 77-5, 82-0....we will go undefeated this season.


http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif LOL. Nah, I stand by my 4-11.

Axeman
11-16-1999, 12:39 AM
1 down, 7 to go

[This message has been edited by Axeman (edited November 15, 1999).]

Air Francis
11-16-1999, 01:25 AM
Popeye,

Now you remind me I've always wanted to ask - Is Francis from France?

By the way, Axeman added wrong for his picks - he's 4-11 and not 5-10. Actually, that's still pretty optimistic from Axeman.

Also, to be considered ye ol King of ClutchCity, you have to get all the winners correct and not just the win/loss record. Of course, picking the correct win/loss record should itself be considered very - let's say - clutch.

Sherlock
11-16-1999, 01:38 AM
Indiana: L
Dallas: W
Sacramento: W
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: L
Portland: W
Vancouver: L

5-10

thedreamshake99
11-16-1999, 02:00 AM
Bluto basher...Id really really like to say 6-9, but the intestines are telling me 5-10 (count two losses to the Kings) Last year, we simply out scored them, due to their horrible D. This year, with a year seasoning of JW, CW, and VD, combined with the Rox inability to score over 90 pts this season could spell doom.

Damn if the freaking Heat can light it up with Pat "whats offense" Riley, why can't the Rox score more points???

German...DOH! My bad. Kevin Willis. Still Barkley could have a good game. Here's to hope.

Shotcaller
11-16-1999, 04:28 AM
ok guys i am going to take a serious crack at this 1....here we go
of course I know we lost to Indiana so I'll start with Dallas, if you guys dont mind??

Dallas-W
Sac-W (we get our first home win!!!)
Sea-W (this will mark the Nat coming out party for St. Francis)
Sac-L (then Williams out highlights him)
Dal-W (Francis throws in 32 with 10 assist)
Por-L (I really wanted to put a W here)
Van-W (Francis breaks NBA record and scores 101...but has 23,in honor of MJ, turnovers,and 14 assist, gets triple if you count turnovers)

Rockets 7-8 Does this count since Posted after the Indiana game??

BrianKagy
11-16-1999, 10:29 AM
Whoops. Now you see why I don't gamble for a living. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif

Air Francis
11-16-1999, 12:43 PM
IND DAL SAC SEA SAC DAL POR VAN
SailorMan................... 6-9 W W W L L L L W
CabbageHead................. 4-11 L W L L L L L W
EuroChocoletRockolet........ 7-8 W W L W L W L W
AeroFrancisco............... 5-10 L L W L L W L W
Leonard the Cohen........... 7-8 W W L W L W L W
RocketeerOuttaHeer.......... 6-9 L W W L L W L W
HatchetMan.................. 4-11 L W L L L W L L
Shake-A-Lake-A-Lam-Dam-Doo.. 6-9 L L W W L W L W
GreekJammer................. 10-5 W W W W W W W W
Tired Dwarf................. 4-11 L W L L L W L L
BrainyScienceNerd........... 7-8 W W W L L W L W
Brakley'sBro................ 8-7 L W W L W W W W
Surgeon d'Basquette......... 6-9 W W L L L W L W
IggyPopAlleyOop............. 7-8 W W W L L W W L
RockHardAss................. 6-9 W L L W L L W W
BoHunkMoDink................ 8-7 W W W L L W W W
A.E.NeumanWorryWart......... 4-11 L L L L L W L W
BigBKBurgerKing............. 10-5 W W W W W W W W
Detective................... 5-10 * W W L L L W L
ShotCaller.................. 7-8 * W W W L W L W


THE REAL DEAL ------------- 2-6 L

Air Francis
11-16-1999, 12:47 PM
<PRE>
<FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Courier,Courier">

THE REAL DEAL ------------- 2-7 L L
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IND DAL SAC SEA SAC DAL POR VAN
SailorMan................... 6-9 W W W L L L L W
CabbageHead................. 4-11 L W L L L L L W
EuroChocoletRockolet........ 7-8 W W L W L W L W
AeroFrancisco............... 5-10 L L W L L W L W
Leonard the Cohen........... 7-8 W W L W L W L W
RocketeerOuttaHeer.......... 6-9 L W W L L W L W
HatchetMan.................. 4-11 L W L L L W L L
Shake-A-Lake-A-Lam-Dam-Doo.. 6-9 L L W W L W L W
GreekJammer................. 10-5 W W W W W W W W
Tired Dwarf................. 4-11 L W L L L W L L
BrainyScienceNerd........... 7-8 W W W L L W L W
Brakley'sBro................ 8-7 L W W L W W W W
Surgeon d'Basquette......... 6-9 W W L L L W L W
IggyPopAlleyOop............. 7-8 W W W L L W W L
RockHardAss................. 6-9 W L L W L L W W
BoHunkMoDink................ 8-7 W W W L L W W W
A.E.NeumanWorryWart......... 4-11 L L L L L W L W
BigBKBurgerKing............. 10-5 W W W W W W W W
Detective................... 5-10 * W W L L L W L
ShotCaller.................. 7-8 * W W W L W L W
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</FONT>
</PRE>

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Air Francis
11-16-1999, 10:46 PM
WorryWart still leads in a pack.


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thacabbage
11-16-1999, 10:51 PM
He's tied with me. We both put 4-11, with nearly identical win-losses.

IWannaBeLikeDream
11-16-1999, 11:12 PM
Hmm....... I would have to say 0-15. Sorry guys.


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"Not NOW, Cato!!!"
-Kevin Calabro, Sonics Commentator

Axeman
11-17-1999, 01:50 AM
Indiana: L - check!
Dallas: W - oops!
Sacramento: L
Seattle: L
Sacramento: L
Dallas: W
Portland: L
Vancouver: L
5-10

You know we're in trouble when my pessimistic ass picks us to beat Dallas twice and they just go on and destroy us tonite.

Too bad Tim Duncan won't be in next year's draft.....

Axeman's (or Hatchethead's, as some of you so affectionately call me) adjusted prediction...

For all of the rest of the games on our little list...

LL
LL
LL
LL
LLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLL

Air Francis
11-17-1999, 05:18 AM
Sorry Axeman, it's too late to change now. You just better go to that Dallas game at the Summit with a big 10 gallon hat and cheer your ass off for Nitwitski or whatever his god damn name is.

Stevie Wonder
11-17-1999, 05:23 AM
Anybody want to take any predictions back!
http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif
P.S. I would be careful of predicting this teams future.

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Stevie Wonder says "they call him FRANCHISE because his dunks are for sale at an arena near you."

GermanRocket
11-18-1999, 02:58 PM
Uh, I guess I have to change my prediction to 6-9. We'll win against Portland. By the way, it's spelled NOWITZKI.

thedreamshake99
11-19-1999, 03:14 AM
Well I'm 3 for 3 now. As heart breaking as the Rox have been lately, at least I can still pick em.

popeye
11-19-1999, 12:27 PM
Embarassing to ven read this. Dang!

BTW Thanks AirFrancis for stat page.If I have your permission I will post it on a seperate thread to kep it short and current..

Cabbage if you beat me in this I may have to drown my sorrows in some illegal consumables. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif