View Full Version : Kahn: "There is no more rebuilding"
batkins
02-17-2011, 06:03 PM
Kahn on #Timberwolves: "There is no more rebuilding. There are no more wholesale changes. I like a lot of players on the team...
http://twitter.com/#!/JerryZgoda/status/38354532736045057
He really should stop talking to the Media..
Minnesota Timberwolves have reached perfection...
Spacemoth
02-17-2011, 06:13 PM
Read: We're going to suck until the end of time.
desi tmac91
02-17-2011, 06:20 PM
I like the squad Kahn has put together, add another top 3 pick + Rubio and I think they can be a playoff caliber team in a few years.
BetterThanEver
02-17-2011, 06:20 PM
Kahn is in "win now" mode! LOL. What a nut.
desi tmac91
02-17-2011, 06:29 PM
Kahn is in "win now" mode! LOL. What a nut.
Lolwut? I think all Kahn meant was that the Wolves are stacked with enough young talent and will begin to move forward with their plans to become a playoff team next season.
The_Yoyo
02-17-2011, 06:31 PM
i swear i am going to be so pissed if Kevin Love spends his 20s in absolute mediocrity the way garnett did.
asmith8266
02-17-2011, 06:39 PM
This is this idiot's idea of talking up his players before the deadline. Except everyone's probably just laughing at him.
BetterThanEver
02-17-2011, 06:39 PM
Lolwut? I think all Kahn meant was that the Wolves are stacked with enough young talent and will begin to move forward with their plans to become a playoff team next season.
Great. Lets trade them some vets for their playoff run, next season. We can give them JJ, Battier, and Miller.
I'll bet $100 they fail to make the playoffs again.
delta69er
02-17-2011, 06:41 PM
"The last time I saw a company this mismanaged was my grandson's snowball company"
UTAllTheWay
02-17-2011, 06:47 PM
If he's done rebuilding, I wonder if he regrets trading Al Jefferson.
knote32
02-17-2011, 07:21 PM
Ricky Rubio
Wesley Johnson
Michael Beasley
Kevin Love
Darko Milicic
Johnny Flynn
Martell Webster
Corey Brewer
Anthony Tolliver
Nikola Pekovic
I would say he has put together some decent talent.
rockets934life
02-17-2011, 07:28 PM
http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200508/mov-002-khan02/320x240.jpg
BetterThanEver
02-17-2011, 07:43 PM
Ricky Rubio
Wesley Johnson
Michael Beasley
Kevin Love
Darko Milicic
Johnny Flynn
Martell Webster
Corey Brewer
Anthony Tolliver
Nikola Pekovic
I would say he has put together some decent talent.
Darko would be benched in the East behind Shaq and Zydrunas and in the West behind DeJuan Blair and Bynum.
The same goes for the rest of the squad with the exception of Kevin Love. They are bench players at best for a playoff contender.
Kojirou
02-17-2011, 07:51 PM
Ricky Rubio
Wesley Johnson
Michael Beasley
Kevin Love
Darko Milicic
Johnny Flynn
Martell Webster
Corey Brewer
Anthony Tolliver
Nikola Pekovic
I would say he has put together some decent talent.
Outside of Love and maybe Beasley, can you point out this "decent talent?"
dropshot001
02-17-2011, 07:55 PM
That's quite a stretch. They are at least a few players away from being legit contenders
AggieRocketsFan
02-17-2011, 08:02 PM
Now we can trade for all their future draft picks.
jmwilliamson
02-18-2011, 12:57 AM
Ricky Rubio
Wesley Johnson
Michael Beasley
Kevin Love
Darko Milicic
Johnny Flynn
Martell Webster
Corey Brewer
Anthony Tolliver
Nikola Pekovic
I would say he has put together some decent talent.
I agree. I know Minnesota has been a laughing stock since they came into the league, but for whatever reason people love to pick on Kahn, but I don't think he's doing too bad of a job. He chose right when he moved Al Jefferson. Clearly Love and Jefferson couldn't co-exist and Love is thriving now.
He acquired Beasley for pennies on the dollar, and while I'm not convinced he's the long term solution at that position, I'm sure we can all agree that his trade value has increased exponentially since he left Miami. Either he'll work out with Minnesota or Minnesota will trade him and probably get considerably better value than they gave up to acquire him. That's a win.
He received all of that heat for his comments on Milicic and the contract he gave him. Well, Milicic is living up to that contract. He's having a very solid season. And, go nuts on me if you want, but after the way Darko has played this season, I don't think Kahn's comments were even that far off. You guys can keep knocking Darko if you like, but the fact is I WISH we had a young and improving 7 footer like Darko right now.
The verdict is still out on Wesley Johnson. We don't know how the Rubio situation will unfold. And I'm pretty down on Johnny Flynn. Still, I think Webster, Brewer and Pekovic are decent bench talent and all still young. Frankly, while I wouldn't trade franchises with them because I prefer Les and Morey to their owner and management any day, I would gladly trade rosters. Love is already a franchise player. Rubio, Johnson and Beasley could all conceivably become franchise players to borderline all-stars.
Admit it. If Morey had that roster, you'd all feel pretty good about our chances of becoming contenders in the next two to four years.
p.s. I take his comments that they are done rebuilding to mean he thinks he has put together the core and now just needs to continue adding complimentary support pieces. I don't think that's absurd at all.
ThaShark316_28
02-18-2011, 01:38 AM
Outside of Love and maybe Beasley, can you point out this "decent talent?"
The underrating of Wes Johnson on this board is hilarious.
Scolalist
02-18-2011, 01:46 AM
If he's done rebuilding, I wonder if he regrets trading Al Jefferson.
In fairness, Kevin Love is so much better.
Beasley is looking like a nice trade. With a really good draft and Rubio being what everyone thinks he would be..they should be a playoff team in 2013.
kovacs242
02-18-2011, 03:01 AM
The T-Wolves have a decent roster with a huge lot of upside. The Beasley trade was a great move.
roslolian
02-18-2011, 04:08 AM
Ricky Rubio
Wesley Johnson
Michael Beasley
Kevin Love
Darko Milicic
Johnny Flynn
Martell Webster
Corey Brewer
Anthony Tolliver
Nikola Pekovic
I would say he has put together some decent talent.
Not really. If all you look at is the roster, well yeah, there some nice pieces there. But if you consider they've been picking at the top of draft for the last 6 years, then he's done one of the worst jobs ever. Once you start thinking of how he gave away Al Jefferson for a low first rounder, and how he spent two top 5 lottery picks on pgs but missed out on Jennings and Stephen Curry then he becomes even more laughable. His best player (Love) isn't even drafted by him.
knote32
02-18-2011, 04:22 AM
Not really. If all you look at is the roster, well yeah, there some nice pieces there. But if you consider they've been picking at the top of draft for the last 6 years, then he's done one of the worst jobs ever. Once you start thinking of how he gave away Al Jefferson for a low first rounder, and how he spent two top 5 lottery picks on pgs but missed out on Jennings and Stephen Curry then he becomes even more laughable. His best player (Love) isn't even drafted by him.
"He has put together some decent talent."
I wish we could have jumped in on Michael Beasley and Al Jefferson for some marginal draftpicks...
jopatmc
02-18-2011, 04:31 AM
The T-Wolves have been so irrelevant for such a long time that I only catch a smattering of their games. Does anybody here watch them consistently and if so, what do you think are the primary reasons behind their suckage this season?
I see lots of points and rebounds and LOSSES. So, what's the problem keeping them from winning games?
Kojirou
02-18-2011, 05:40 AM
The underrating of Wes Johnson on this board is hilarious.
I live in Minnesota. I go to Wolves games on a fairly regular basis ( mostly because tickets are super cheap)
Wes Johnson is an okay player, not a star. Darko's good at blocking shots, and that's about it. I would not be surprised to see Flynn out of the league in three years, he's THAT awful. And their bench is laughably pathetic. Even Beasley is overhyped. He's a good offensive force, but his defense is so-so and he has the tendency to do fairly stupid crap when he's on the offensive end.
And Rubio has been playing like crap these days in Spain.
The Wolves game against us was the one time when I've seen their backcourt not play like total crap. I am not joking.
DCkid
02-18-2011, 06:47 AM
Ricky Rubio
Wesley Johnson
Michael Beasley
Kevin Love
Darko Milicic
Johnny Flynn
Martell Webster
Corey Brewer
Anthony Tolliver
Nikola Pekovic
I would say he has put together some decent talent.
I agree, but anybody can draft young talent or trade away solid veterans for youngsters over a five year period of being in the lottery. Let me know when the team actually starts showing that it is well constructed or that they can consistently win games.
That's the problem with a team completely full of youth. It's hard to actually improve when you're just barely trying to keep your head above water.
DdotConrad503
02-18-2011, 08:01 AM
The underrating of Wes Johnson on this board is hilarious.
Exactly what I was thinking. That team has more potential than the rockets at this point
Kojirou
02-18-2011, 08:05 AM
Exactly what I was thinking. That team has more potential than the rockets at this point
Potential to do...... what, exactly? Fall in an 8th seed? Because that is the ceiling for this team, especially if they keep Rambis around.
NotInMyHouse
02-18-2011, 08:12 AM
Exactly what I was thinking. That team has more potential than the rockets at this point
Again, this is due to bottom feeding for a long time resulting in tons of young talent through the lottery. Comparing the T-wolves and Rockets is like comparing a Snoopy snow-cone machine to an avalanche. The front offices aren't even in the same atmosphere.
DCkid
02-18-2011, 08:13 AM
Exactly what I was thinking. That team has more potential than the rockets at this point
I really don't understand how people come to these conclusions. Are you just looking at average age of players and when they were taken in the draft, and then concluding the team has potential? I agree that some individuals have talent and could get better, but I don't see how anyone can make a judgment the team is on the up-and-up when there is absolutely no evidence of that.
JuanValdez
02-18-2011, 10:07 AM
Trade deadline is almost here. He's just managing the expectations of the fanbase so they understand he won't be making a dramatic trade at the deadline. Nothing to see here.
baller4life315
02-18-2011, 10:13 AM
Apparently Kahn's version of "collecting talent" is expending lottery picks to find serviceable role players.
....and you wonder why people think this guy is a joke.
Prince
02-18-2011, 10:14 AM
Minnesota Timberwolves have reached perfection...
LOL. exactly my thoughts hehehe No wonder ...
Bigmarky
02-18-2011, 10:30 AM
what does contraction mean i never said a word about practice
we talkin about practise
rpr52121
02-18-2011, 11:31 AM
I see lots of points and rebounds and LOSSES. So, what's the problem keeping them from winning games?
The biggest thing is that no one on that team wants to play any defense. The only player who really does most of the time is Corey Brewer but he does not seem to get minutes he probably should.
On offense, it essentially a turn-based RPG in each each player gets the ball an a shot and then its someone elses turn. There is very little team-play or system on offense. Part of that is because not all their pieces fit together. Part of it is on the coaching.
roslolian
02-18-2011, 11:42 AM
"He has put together some decent talent."
I wish we could have jumped in on Michael Beasley and Al Jefferson for some marginal draftpicks...
I guess when you say "put together" I would have thought there was actual effort on the GM's part. However what Kahn has been doing is just waiting for lottery picks and picking crap players with them. Like I said his best player wasn't chosen by him (Love), and Flynn, Wes Johnson et al were all lottery picks. I mean, he was supposed to pick somebody with his top 5 pick, right? Its not like his picks were gold either, Flynn looks like a 2nd rounder and Rubio still hasn't gone to the NBA. Wesley Johnson is a nice player to have however they passed on guys like PP and Cousins to get him. I just don't think he deserves credit except from the Beasley trade, which everyone seems to overhype at this point.
david_rocket
02-18-2011, 11:26 PM
Minnesota has potential..... to be the 10th seed.
yeah, maybe the wolves have better young players than the rockets, but morey keeps trying to making the team better, while Kahn is happy with this team, and doesnt want to make more changes.
I would be pissed if a was a wolves fan, and I heard the GM saying that.
Right now they are the worst team in the West and they only have 3 more wins than the Cavs, so they are far away from being relevant in the NBA.
I like what he said. He's sticking by the team instead of saying everyone's up for trade.
TheFreak
02-19-2011, 12:10 AM
That team is rivaling the 1999-2000 Rockets for the greatest team ever assembled.
BetterThanEver
02-19-2011, 09:09 AM
The biggest thing is that no one on that team wants to play any defense. The only player who really does most of the time is Corey Brewer but he does not seem to get minutes he probably should.
On offense, it essentially a turn-based RPG in each each player gets the ball an a shot and then its someone elses turn. There is very little team-play or system on offense. Part of that is because not all their pieces fit together. Part of it is on the coaching.
I am not sure if the Timberwolves can play great defense. Beasley gets time over their best defender Brewer. Beasley is an undersized 4 playing at the 3. He is too slow to keep up with other SFs.
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