Bud In A Package

[coachbadlee]

I think that with any trade package going out, Bud should be added to it. I'm sure any GM and owner would be happy.
Let's say the Rockets want to send Brooks to Sac for Cousins. Adding Bud to that would make it better. I remember reading that Phillie was big on Bud. Why not add Bud in a package for Iguodala? ;)

[apollo33]

What if we get owned by the airport security

[Patience]

I don't know about Bud in a package. I'm pretty sure that's what got Michael Beasley in trouble last year...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/405/837/Super-Cool-Beas-Michael-Beasley-tattoo_display_image.jpg

[AggieRocketsFan]

Martin in a package.

[coachbadlee]

Martin in a package.
I'm sorry, but Martin is a big part of our offense. He really is not the problem. Even Kobe becomes a chucker sometimes. Yes, his defense sucks, but he is still a big contributor to this team.

Now Bud is not the problem. He is just a problem that is confusing everyone. What is going on with him? All of a sudden he can't hit anything. I beleive that he is shell shocked from the injuries. He needs to get over that sh!t.

[MourningWood]

Dude, throw some Miller in that package, and you've got a winner. You start with Miller, and bust out the Bud later on to cap off the night, or vice versa depending on your strategy. The combination makes for a quite GLORIOUS experience, and truthfully, is hard to turn down. Good point, man... definitely trade bait.

[rockets934life]

I'm sorry, but Martin is a big part of our offense. He really is not the problem. Even Kobe becomes a chucker sometimes. Yes, his defense sucks, but he is still a big contributor to this team.

Now Bud is not the problem. He is just a problem that is confusing everyone. What is going on with him? All of a sudden he can't hit anything. I beleive that he is shell shocked from the injuries. He needs to get over that sh!t.

Problem is the league sees the same thing we all see, while Martin has serious value to certain teams. Hey, I'm a BIG Bud fan but I can't ignore his shot has been way off. I liked his game tonight but he still is having issues with his shot and that is concerning. I think he will get packaged with someone but it may be smarter to hold on to him and if you're going to move anyone, lets move the guy who can get you more in return.

[coachbadlee]

Problem is the league sees the same thing we all see, while Martin has serious value to certain teams. Hey, I'm a BIG Bud fan but I can't ignore his shot has been way off. I liked his game tonight but he still is having issues with his shot and that is concerning. I think he will get packaged with someone but it may be smarter to hold on to him and if you're going to move anyone, lets move the guy who can get you more in return.
I see your point, but an Iguodala for Martin package is somewhat of a wash to me. The two would go perfect together on the team.

[DaDakota]

Bud needs to start or go to the D-league and start there.

He needs to get on the floor and work it out.

DD

[coachbadlee]

Bud needs to start or go to the D-league and start there.

He needs to get on the floor and work it out.

DD
If i make it, he^ will come. ;) :grin:

[rockets934life]

I see your point, but an Iguodala for Martin package is somewhat of a wash to me. The two would go perfect together on the team.

See I look at it this way, production wise I think its a wash but defensively it would make a HUGE difference and help out Aaron BIGTIME. Again, I like Martin but he needs to be on a team that can utilize his skills better and he doesn't need to be the "man".

[rocketblaze]

I don't really see much point in trading for a player like Iggy(who's going to be 27 in two months) if we're pretty close to rebuilding and starting from scratch...

We just to trade for young players and draft picks(see my signature), and start collecting those lottery pin pong balls!!

--RB

[coachbadlee]

I don't really see much point in trading for a player like Iggy(who's going to be 27 in two months) if we're pretty close to rebuilding and starting from scratch...

We just to trade for young players and draft picks(see my signature), and start collecting those lottery pin pong balls!!

--RB
Iguodala is more of a now move. It's still too early for what you're suggesting. With the proper and timely additions, they could go on a couple of winning spurts before the end of the season.

[pbthunder]

It's not unusual for players to slip their sophomore year. I wouldn't throw Chase in just to be rid of him.

[cuddie]

http://www.pax-intl.com/Paxenews/paxenews_feb2009/budlight.jpg

[Rockets4279]

Bud and Miller baby help yourself !!

[DdotConrad503]

I don't know about Bud in a package. I'm pretty sure that's what got Michael Beasley in trouble last year...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/405/837/Super-Cool-Beas-Michael-Beasley-tattoo_display_image.jpg

Lol nice

[b2bizchina]

I'm sorry, but Martin is a big part of our offense. He really is not the problem. Even Kobe becomes a chucker sometimes. Yes, his defense sucks, but he is still a big contributor to this team.

Now Bud is not the problem. He is just a problem that is confusing everyone. What is going on with him? All of a sudden he can't hit anything. I beleive that he is shell shocked from the injuries. He needs to get over that sh!t.
It‘s luck that u r not Houston's GM

[RedRedemption]

I'm sorry, but Martin is a big part of our offense. He really is not the problem. Even Kobe becomes a chucker sometimes. Yes, his defense sucks, but he is still a big contributor to this team.

Now Bud is not the problem. He is just a problem that is confusing everyone. What is going on with him? All of a sudden he can't hit anything. I beleive that he is shell shocked from the injuries. He needs to get over that sh!t.

Martin = Fool's gold. Puts up big numbers in the first three quarters... and that's about it.

[Z-Ro&Trae]

just yesterday people were claiming that c bud was the truth...........

[coachbadlee]

just yesterday people were claiming that c bud was the truth...........
Not me. He has been off way too long. They should add him in a trade while he still has some value instead of a pick, maybe.

[coachbadlee]

It's not unusual for players to slip their sophomore year. I wouldn't throw Chase in just to be rid of him.
Not just to be rid of him. More like sweetening the deal.

[Rocketfanatic2]

Not sure what I would do with Budinger. He's somewhat a streaky shooter, and that's what he's here to do; shoot. If he's struggling and in a slump, I say play him enough to get his rhythm back. I can remember Vernon Maxwell also being an extremely streaky shooter. But yeah, play him until he gets the rhythm back, and if that doesn't happen, maybe dish him off somewhere for a pick or something.

I wouldn't give up on him yet.

[mFt82]

Blah,blah, blah, Vernon Maxwell, yadda. Eff that. The rockets need a trade and bud is expendable.

[dfbreyes]

Potential, potential. Bah humbug.

So Yao Ming is always injured and can't play? Let go of Yao!

So Aaron Brooks is complaining about his contract? Ishmael Smith is here! Let go of Aaron!

So Jarred Jeffries isn't or wouldn't ever play in a Rockets uniform ? Let go of Jeffries!

So how much longer will it take potential to actually translate to winning games? A long time? Let go of potential and Chase Budinger!

Bring in the players who are tried and tested and durable! Bring back CARL LANDRY!!!

Bring back CARL LANDRY!!!

[mlwoo]

Bud needs to start or go to the D-league and start there.

He needs to get on the floor and work it out.

DD
Ahhhhhhh, yes. The Kareem Jackson method.

[PigMiller]

I'd like a package that includes bud.

[coachbadlee]

I'd like a package that includes bud.
I used to, but i didn't like the way i felt after a game.

[Mr. Clutch]

Let's party. :(

[AggieRocketsFan]

Not me. He has been off way too long. They should add him in a trade while he still has some value instead of a pick, maybe.

Really?

November 09-10 Stats:
Minutes Played: 262 (20.2mpg)
8.4ppg 3.5rpg 1.4apg
39%FG
89% FT
31% 3pt

November 10-11 Stats:
Minutes Played: 235 (21.4mpg)
7.9ppg 3.4rpg 2.1apg
34%FG
94% FT
23% 3pt

Give the guy a break, he hasn't even played 300 minutes yet this season and people are already ready to write him off. His rhythm has been effected by his injury and his role has changed somewhat from a spot-up shooter to an all-around scorer. His shot will come around sooner than later.

[coachbadlee]

Really?

November 09-10 Stats:
Minutes Played: 262 (20.2mpg)
8.4ppg 3.5rpg 1.4apg
39%FG
89% FT
31% 3pt

November 10-11 Stats:
Minutes Played: 235 (21.4mpg)
7.9ppg 3.4rpg 2.1apg
34%FG
94% FT
23% 3pt

Give the guy a break, he hasn't even played 300 minutes yet this season and people are already ready to write him off. His rhythm has been effected by his injury and his role has changed somewhat from a spot-up shooter to an all-around scorer. His shot will come around sooner than later.
I'm all for giving the guy a break, it's just that if a trade comes through and he is needed to complete it, i would be upset.

[Carl Herrera]

Bud in a package is at least better than Dick in a box, I guess.

[heypartner]

Martin in a package.
Oh, sh!t. Do we have a new nickname for Martin.

Martini

[Persian foo]

Greg Oden has a juicy package.

[heypartner]

Greg Oden has a juicy package.
Puts a whole new perspective on what Persian foo means.

[R=$]

Hedo Turkoglu
0-0 from
10.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 apg in 27.4 minutes
Robin Lopez
7-0 C from Stanford
5.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.1 apg in 17.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
7.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 30.3 minutes
Jordan Hill
6-9 PF from Arizona
6.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.1 apg in 16.9 minutes
Chase Budinger
6-7 SF from Arizona
8.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.8 apg in 21.1 minutes


PACKAGE THIS ! :)

[coachbadlee]

I'm all for giving the guy a break, it's just that if a trade comes through and he is needed to complete it, i wouldn't be upset.
^fixed

[coachbadlee]

From Bud in a package to dick in a box. How did that happen? Why did that happen? :confused: :confused:

[AggieRocketsFan]

Hedo Turkoglu
0-0 from
10.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 apg in 27.4 minutes
Robin Lopez
7-0 C from Stanford
5.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.1 apg in 17.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
7.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 30.3 minutes
Jordan Hill
6-9 PF from Arizona
6.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.1 apg in 16.9 minutes
Chase Budinger
6-7 SF from Arizona
8.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.8 apg in 21.1 minutes


PACKAGE THIS ! :)

I hope you're kidding.

[DaDakota]

Really?

November 09-10 Stats:
Minutes Played: 262 (20.2mpg)
8.4ppg 3.5rpg 1.4apg
39%FG
89% FT
31% 3pt

November 10-11 Stats:
Minutes Played: 235 (21.4mpg)
7.9ppg 3.4rpg 2.1apg
34%FG
94% FT
23% 3pt

Give the guy a break, he hasn't even played 300 minutes yet this season and people are already ready to write him off. His rhythm has been effected by his injury and his role has changed somewhat from a spot-up shooter to an all-around scorer. His shot will come around sooner than later.

Fantastic post....repped.

DD

[coachbadlee]

Fantastic post....repped.

DD
Come on DD, you are seeing the same thing that everyone else is seeing. Something is wrong with Bud. I can understand going on a shooting slump for a couple of games, but he has only had 3-4(maybe less) good games this season and they were too far in between to really pay much attention to.

[heypartner]

Really?

November 09-10 Stats:
Minutes Played: 262 (20.2mpg)
8.4ppg 3.5rpg 1.4apg
39%FG
89% FT
31% 3pt

November 10-11 Stats:
Minutes Played: 235 (21.4mpg)
7.9ppg 3.4rpg 2.1apg
34%FG
94% FT
23% 3pt

Give the guy a break, he hasn't even played 300 minutes yet this season and people are already ready to write him off. His rhythm has been effected by his injury and his role has changed somewhat from a spot-up shooter to an all-around scorer. His shot will come around sooner than later.
"Spot up shooter".. to .."all-around scorer."

What?

Look, y'all. Budinger is not a great shooter anywhere close to Martin. He really isn't even our 5th best shooter. Never has been. He bricks... last year and this year. He is not off...he is what he is. Great on the fastbreak and can do some...uh...other things as I recall.

He is a role player. Martin is lights out. Not Bud. Not sure where people came up with the idea that he was the next Larry Bird...oh, cause he's white.

Ok, got it.

[BZ-B]

Hedo Turkoglu
0-0 from
10.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 apg in 27.4 minutes
Robin Lopez
7-0 C from Stanford
5.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.1 apg in 17.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Shane Battier
6-8 SF from Duke
7.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 30.3 minutes
Jordan Hill
6-9 PF from Arizona
6.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.1 apg in 16.9 minutes
Chase Budinger
6-7 SF from Arizona
8.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.8 apg in 21.1 minutes


PACKAGE THIS ! :)
lolwut

[Rockets4279]

I'm not that high on Bud like i used to be. I thought he had a good ceiling, but lately i can tell he is what he is and i can't see much ceiling any more. He is a Hamilton clone, needs the ball on a catch and shoot play 'needs it at the right spot in the right time kinda shooter'. And he hasn't been lights out either. His defense needs a lot of work too.

[Rocketfanatic2]

"Spot up shooter".. to .."all-around scorer."

What?

Look, y'all. Budinger is not a great shooter anywhere close to Martin. He really isn't even our 5th best shooter. Never has been. He bricks... last year and this year. He is not off...he is what he is. Great on the fastbreak and can do some...uh...other things as I recall.

He is a role player. Martin is lights out. Not Bud. Not sure where people came up with the idea that he was the next Larry Bird...oh, cause he's white.

Ok, got it.

I don't think you're giving Budinger enough credit. In his college career, he shot 46.9% from the field and 38.3% from behind the arc. I don't know what you consider great, but in my books, that's great. Even last year, he shot 44% from the field, and 37% from behind the arc. Considering that almost half of his shots are threes, I'd say those are some pretty darn good percentages. So he's struggling this year, that doesn't mean you give up on him quite yet. He definitely isn't the next Bird and isn't an all around scorer, bu he still deserves more credit than you're giving him in my opinion.

[johnstarks]

Apparently people aren't too high on Bud these days around here. The Bud has to be kind if we hope to get something valuable back in that package.

[coachbadlee]

All of Buds problems started with the 1st ankle injury. Ever since then it's been downhill. He may not be the highlight of a package deal, but he would make it more tempting.

[viertelasiat]

Jeffries, Hill, Bud and our a pick for Iggy

[DaDakota]

Come on DD, you are seeing the same thing that everyone else is seeing. Something is wrong with Bud. I can understand going on a shooting slump for a couple of games, but he has only had 3-4(maybe less) good games this season and they were too far in between to really pay much attention to.

Of course I see it, but with him coming off of sprained ankles which are your base in your jumper, it is probably just a matter of time, and looking at his slow start last year to how he finished, that is encouraging.

Get him on the floor.

DD

[Mr. Clutch]

Really?

November 09-10 Stats:
Minutes Played: 262 (20.2mpg)
8.4ppg 3.5rpg 1.4apg
39%FG
89% FT
31% 3pt

November 10-11 Stats:
Minutes Played: 235 (21.4mpg)
7.9ppg 3.4rpg 2.1apg
34%FG
94% FT
23% 3pt

Give the guy a break, he hasn't even played 300 minutes yet this season and people are already ready to write him off. His rhythm has been effected by his injury and his role has changed somewhat from a spot-up shooter to an all-around scorer. His shot will come around sooner than later.

So the fact that he hasn't improved from last year is a good thing?

And about being an all-around scorer...hmm...still haven't seen him create his own shot.

[PigMiller]

Apparently people aren't too high on Bud these days around here. The Bud has to be kind if we hope to get something valuable back in that package.

Right.

It's like Bud has gotten stale, or we overpaid for what we thought was potent Bud but turned out to be low-grade Bud.

[heypartner]

I don't think you're giving Budinger enough credit. In his college career, he shot 46.9% from the field and 38.3% from behind the arc. I don't know what you consider great, but in my books, that's great.
Those are identical (yes, identical) number to Luther Head and Jermaine Taylor's college numbers, from the college 3. So what's so great about it.

You know what Steve Novak shot from the college 3 for his career...46%. Battier shot 41% from 3s for his career.

Even last year, he shot 44% from the field, and 37% from behind the arc. Considering that almost half of his shots are threes, I'd say those are some pretty darn good percentages.
Those aren't as good as Cuttino Mobley, and Cuttino could attack the basket much better. But they are fine. We need Chase to get back up to last year. The scouting report is out on him and we have to hope this sophomore slump is not due to that, vs hoping it's something that is just mental...and fixable.

I'm not giving up on him, but I'm getting to the point that I'd start giving him less minutes for sure...make him work for it again. It's like, at what point do you take Luther Head out of the Utah series.

[coachbadlee]

Right.

It's like Bud has gotten stale, or we overpaid for what we thought was potent Bud but turned out to be low-grade Bud.
Head ache Bud.

[coachbadlee]

Really?

November 09-10 Stats:
Minutes Played: 262 (20.2mpg)
8.4ppg 3.5rpg 1.4apg
39%FG
89% FT
31% 3pt

November 10-11 Stats:
Minutes Played: 235 (21.4mpg)
7.9ppg 3.4rpg 2.1apg
34%FG
94% FT
23% 3ptGive the guy a break, he hasn't even played 300 minutes yet this season and people are already ready to write him off. His rhythm has been effected by his injury and his role has changed somewhat from a spot-up shooter to an all-around scorer. His shot will come around sooner than later.
This is nice and all, but my eyes have shown me different.

[AggieRocketsFan]

H: What is wrong with Chase, why are his shots off?

DM: The main thing you learn on slumps like this, lots of great shooters go through this, Ray Allen missed 17 straight in the playoffs one year, we are really watching and working with Chase on how he responds, still attacks the basket, make the right passes, and compete on D, he has been fading a bit on his shot, and we are working on it, being a little off, he is working hard and we expect him to get out of it.

Thanks again DD. (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=196744)

[mosessmalone]

L'ing my F'ing A O that ppl said Budinger>JR Smith
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[coachbadlee]

I am actually hoping Bud has a good game tonight. Just to keep other teams interested.

[TheChosenOne]

http://www.northcoastjournal.com/110807/CVR-bud_2926.jpg

???

[HombreDeHierro]

hahahah! we need to keep him for his name alone :cool:

[coachbadlee]

http://www.northcoastjournal.com/110807/CVR-bud_2926.jpg

???
Now would be a perfect time to get the Bud out. Teams still notice theres quality. ;)

[coachbadlee]

Put Bud in the wind! :grin:

[ROX_fan_CT]

Bud's azz would be as good as gone if it come down to getting JR Smith for him. Talent level is not even close. JR Smith > Bud by miles !!!

L'ing my F'ing A O that ppl said Budinger>JR Smith
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[MightyMog]

I bet you If Bud was playing for the Jazz he would be good...haha

[DaDakota]

Bud's azz would be as good as gone if it come down to getting JR Smith for him. Talent level is not even close. JR Smith > Bud by miles !!!

Ugh, not if you include chemistry, intelligence and good character.

DD

[coachbadlee]

Bud's azz would be as good as gone if it come down to getting JR Smith for him. Talent level is not even close. JR Smith > Bud by miles !!!
JR Smith??!! Do not want.

[MourningWood]

JR Smith??!! Do not want.

Do want.

He has the ability to explode for 25+ on any given night... he's an excellent long-range gunner and a strong finisher at the cup. Bud can get off the floor, but J.R. has serious bounce. He's one of the league's best all-around athletes, hands down. If RA can renew his focus on defense, J.R. could be a consistent 6th man.

I'd like to watch this unit in the open floor:

Ish Smith
Courtney Lee
J.R. Smith
Jordan Hill
Brad Miller

[AggieRocketsFan]

Do want.

He has the ability to explode for 25+ on any given night... he's an excellent long-range gunner and a strong finisher at the cup. Bud can get off the floor, but J.R. has serious bounce. He's one of the league's best all-around athletes, hands down. If RA can renew his focus on defense, J.R. could be a consistent 6th man.



He has "exploded" for 25+ points one time this year.

He "exploded" for 25+ points 9 times last year. Which would mean he has a 10% chance of going over 25. I don't really think that qualifies for going off on any given night.

Not too mention his highest scoring game in the playoff series against the Jazz last year was 20 points. (36% FG in series)

[coachbadlee]

Iwas thinking more like Bud in a package deal for Igudala. I don't know where this JR Smith talk came from. The thought of Rick Adelman teaching someone defense.....hilarious! :grin:

[Mr. Clutch]

What does Bud have over Courtney Lee?

Serious question.

I can only think of two things- 1) shooting off picks or on the move (which he hasn't been doing this year) and 2) finishing near the basket (though he can't get to the basket consistently).

Lee seems to be the better defender, better ball-handler, and better set shooter.

[coachbadlee]

What does Bud have over Courtney Lee?

Serious question.

I can only think of two things- 1) shooting off picks or on the move (which he hasn't been doing this year) and 2) finishing near the basket (though he can't get to the basket consistently).

Lee seems to be the better defender, better ball-handler, and better set shooter.
How quickly things change. It was not too long ago that Bud was the better set shooter.

[Carl Herrera]

What does Bud have over Courtney Lee?

Serious question.


Reflecting sunlight?

[Mr. Clutch]

How quickly things change. It was not too long ago that Bud was the better set shooter.

Well, Chase shot 37% from 3 last year, while Lee is a career 38% 3 point shooter. Lee also shot over 40% from 3 as a rookie. So I'm not sure Chase has ever been better.

But rookies usually get a lot better in shooting 3s their second year as they get acclimated to the NBA 3 pt line. Bud has been puzzling to say the least.

Odds are, though, that he turns it around and finishes around 40% from 3 pt land. That's where I'd put my money anyways...

[Mr. Clutch]

Reflecting sunlight?

And playing volleyball.

[JMAD21]

We should trade him to a volleyball team for cash, then use the cash to buy one of those fancy 3d TVs for the locker room.

[AroundTheWorld]

My guess is that we will move Brooks, Budinger and one or two of the bigger expiring contracts (Battier/Jeffries), plus some of the picks and perhaps Patterson or Hill for a star if and when the chance presents itself.

[MourningWood]

He has "exploded" for 25+ points one time this year.

He "exploded" for 25+ points 9 times last year. Which would mean he has a 10% chance of going over 25. I don't really think that qualifies for going off on any given night.

Not too mention his highest scoring game in the playoff series against the Jazz last year was 20 points. (36% FG in series)

He has the ability to explode for 25+, Aggie.

Check his '08-'09 (27 MPG) numbers when he racked up 61 double figure games, including a string of 21 straight. He ranks 2nd in Denver all-time for three point field goals made, and 1st for three point %. He can light it up:

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[LCII]

Reflecting sunlight?

scientifically, lighter skinned people reflect light (UV Rays) more poorly than darker skinned people. Thats why light skinned people have a higher incidence of skin cancer. so bud can't even beat lee in reflecting sunlight :grin:

[coachbadlee]

Damn!! Bud 0-6??!!! :o Come on Chase, wake up!!! :mad:

[AroundTheWorld]

scientifically, lighter skinned people reflect light (UV Rays) more poorly than darker skinned people. Thats why light skinned people have a higher incidence of skin cancer. so bud can't even beat lee in reflecting sunlight :grin:

Doesn't dark color absorb more light than light colors? :confused:

I think the reason for higher incidence of skin cancer is not that lighter skinned people "reflect light more poorly", but that the skin cannot take as much of it (speaking in layman's terms here).

[pippendagimp]

My guess is that we will move Brooks, Budinger and one or two of the bigger expiring contracts (Battier/Jeffries), plus some of the picks and perhaps Patterson or Hill for a star if and when the chance presents itself.

my guess is that in any scenario we will get below the lux tax threshold before the deadline without a doubt :grin:

[DaDakota]

Chase looks lost out there, tenative and playing scared.

They need to sit him for some time to get him right....

DD

[sammy]

his trade value is plummeting

[MrButtocks]

At this point Bud brings down the value of any package.

[spdngyns69]

The Bud is now reggie. Stinkin bad.

[CXbby]

Bud in a package? Is this like Dick in a Box?

I'm not sure he can pull it off like JT.

[Shroopy2]

No scorer has set the bar as low as Trevor Ariza did. To not even match THAT is terrible.

[rockets934life]

I still think Bud can be part of a deal to bring back quality but he REALLY needs to work on his shot or start driving the lane.

[coachbadlee]

Poor Bud. Clutchfans new punching bag.

[Shroopy2]

Poor Bud. Clutchfans new punching bag.
Any team, Any player, Any league, Any era

You shoot 35% , 25% 3pters

and your job is being a SHOOTER

you're going to get criticized.

[MrButtocks]

Chase looks lost out there, tenative and playing scared.

They need to sit him for some time to get him right....

DD
Do you still have the same long-term outlook for him as you did a few months ago? Has he hurt his potential?

[DaDakota]

Do you still have the same long-term outlook for him as you did a few months ago? Has he hurt his potential?

I think last year they ran plays for him, and he was confident, this year he has lost his confidence, whether it is his ankles or whatever, it is just gone.

He should be a Kyle Korver type at least, and right now, he just isn't.

Sometimes you need some tough love, I think he needs a good dose of pine...

DD

[TheRealist137]

Any team, Any player, Any league, Any era

You shoot 35% , 25% 3pters

and your job is being a SHOOTER

you're going to get criticized.
not to mention horrible D and zero playmaking ability.

[AggieRocketsFan]

He has the ability to explode for 25+, Aggie.

Check his '08-'09 (27 MPG) numbers when he racked up 61 double figure games, including a string of 21 straight. He ranks 2nd in Denver all-time for three point field goals made, and 1st for three point %. He can light it up:


JR Smith:
08-09 (27mpg): 44%FG 40%3pt
09-10 (27mpg): 41%FG 34%3pt

If your stuck on the 08-09 season then we can pick up AI too because he was averaging 18ppg on 42%FG.

JR is actually first in 3PTM for Denver, right in front of Michael Adams and Dale Ellis, who each spent only 3-4 years on the Nuggets. Smith is actually ranked 8th in 3PT% and second in 3PT attempts.

Comparing all-time numbers to the Nuggets is not saying much... How many championships do they have? Zero.

JR is not as good as you are making him out to be. I would rather have Wafer back if all you want is a streaky shooter. Which reminds me, Adelman and JR would get along greeeeeeat.

[coachbadlee]

I have noticed a lot of overrating for streaky shooters in the garm. Von Wafer, JR Smith, Chase and so on. What is this fascination with streaky shooting.

[sammy]

He should be a Kyle Korver type at least

I would be ecstatic if he became a Kyle Korver type at most. That guy barely misses and set the record for highest 3 pt % ever last season.

[Raven]

Sometimes in sports, bad news attracts bad news. Bud's stagnation is just another disappointment in a season full of disappointments.

[BEAT LA]

Martin, Taylor, and Jeffries for Anthony if he's willing to sign an extension.

Yao / Miller / Hayes
Scola / Hill
Melo / Battier
Lee / Budinger
Brooks / Lowry / Smith

You don't sell low. Hang on to Budinger this season. If the Rockets aren't going to play Martin, then trade him.

[tofu--]

I have noticed a lot of overrating for streaky shooters in the garm. Von Wafer, JR Smith, Chase and so on. What is this fascination with streaky shooting.

Von Wafer and JR are superior to Chase, though. At least right now.

[BMoney]

Players go through this, but the warning signs were there in the summer league. He seemed a bit tentative out there and all of the criticisms of him at Arizona are starting to make sense. He seemingly so much basketball and athletic talent, but he seems content to be Just Another Guy out there and float around. It's not good enough. He should model himself on Manu Ginobli (easier said than done, I know) and play with reckless abandon out there. It's better to go down fighting instead of being this passive guy who just shows the occasional flash. He should focus on improving his defense and cut and drive to the basket.

[A Kar]

Von Wafer and JR are superior to Chase, though. At least right now.

Von Wafer? Absolutely not.

[coachbadlee]

Well, it's about that time fellas. It's obvious what's about to happen here with the arrival of T. Williams. :grin: Doesn't look good for ole Bud right about now.

[htownrox1]

Well, it's about that time fellas. It's obvious what's about to happen here with the arrival of T. Williams. :grin: Doesn't look good for ole Bud right about now.

Williams is gonna have to earn his playing time. Bud is officially out of his slump.

[co-nan]

Let's say the Rockets want to send Brooks to Sac for Cousins. Adding Bud to that would make it better. I remember reading that Phillie was big on Bud. Why not add Bud in a package for Iguodala? ;)

If Cousins can come, I will trade with Bud. I am very looking forward to Cousins with Hill to be our future inside. They will be very powerful and can be the basis of a Champion team.

Cousins + Hill + TW + Lee + Lowry + Martin
After two years, I can not imagine the ceiling of this.
Actually, Ray Allen's defense improves with his age.

[thetatomatis]

Scola and Budinger for Cousins??

[Scolalist]

Uh. No.

[Scolalist]

Well, it's about that time fellas. It's obvious what's about to happen here with the arrival of T. Williams. :grin: Doesn't look good for ole Bud right about now.

He scored 18 pts tonight on 70% shooting. I think he's going to be just fine.

[co-nan]

Scola and Budinger for Cousins??

I will

[coachbadlee]

He scored 18 pts tonight on 70% shooting. I think he's going to be just fine.
I'm pretty sure T. Will is going to move him out of the rotation. I think you know it too. You're just not ready to admit it yet. :grin:

[coachbadlee]

Scola and Budinger for Cousins??
I'm thinking more like Brooks and Bud.