WOW - We have a winner

[SmeggySmeg]

Don't want to be premature or anything, but now that one the most lopsided trades in BF* fantasy league history has gone down (even worse than Stackhousegate) it is going to be real hard for anyone to catch DoD, thanks Playground for spoiling it for us all.

for those that missed it dr traded Howard, and used Penny and his only weakness Ervin Johnson to Playground for Finley and Sabonis, upgrading both his SF and Centre positions.

Smeg

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- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Summer Song Giver]

I like the trade and it was me who was pushing for this trade to get done not DoD.I'm not concerned about how the trade hurts the league players but only with how it helps my team,and it can if Penny can play well.

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[SmeggySmeg]

geez, i am glad removing Finley and Sabonis from you line-up and replacing them with Howard and Johnson and the remote possibility Penny will score 30 fantasy ppg by the end of the season is an upgrade, good for you SSG, great trade for you, GM of the year for you..........


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[This message has been edited by SmeggySmeg (edited January 01, 2001).]

[Summer Song Giver]

First of all Sabonis wasn't in my lineup,so I removed Finley and am replacing him with Howard and Penny upon his return.

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[fadeaway]

I've gotta agree with Smeg on this one. DoD cleaned up.

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My dream job is to be a Houston Rockets towel boy.

[SmeggySmeg]

Maybe there was cash or draft picks involved or maybe even future considerations, those being that when DoD wins the League he will include "I would like to thank everyone who made this win possible, especially my players, but most importantly i owe it all to SSG" in his acceptance speech.

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"What is it with this girl, has she got beer flavoured nipples??"
- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Summer Song Giver]

Whatever

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[The Voice of Reason]

Im glad someone started this thread.

its a league killer trade.

on the other hand, I guess anything can still happen. however, My hopes have dropped

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[This message has been edited by The Voice of Reason (edited January 01, 2001).]

[Dr of Dunk]

Ok, ok guys... reality check here. I haven't improved my team that much.

Finley averages only about 5-6 more points per game than did Howard. Over the course of league games, that means I'll get about 10-12 more points from him.

Sabonis is only going to get me about another 8-10 more points than Ervin Johnson did. Over the course of league games that means I'll get 16-20 points more from him.

Consider also the fact he took what could end up being a 35-45 ppg scorer in Anfernee away from me.


So the trade effectively gives me about 26-32 more points per league game (without even counting my loss of Hardaway). Is that a lot? No, not really because I don't have the best team as it is. You've got people like Smeg and Crisco that hiccup 600-700 pt games weekly. Pimp has assembled a hell of a team, then you have fadeaway, Behad, and Bobo all with possibly better teams than me as is. I don't think I've ever even gotten a 600 point game (can't remember). If anything, this just pulls me closer to the "real" threats in the league, not pull me away from the league. If you don't agree, then just look at the total points scored by all the teams and tell me how I'm supposedly head-and-shoulders above everybody in this league? It's not like he gave me Shaq for peanuts!

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[SmeggySmeg]

Originally posted by Dr of Dunk:

Consider also the fact he took what could end up being a 35-45 ppg scorer in Anfernee away from me.


When this season did he score 35 ppg let alone 45ppg???????


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[Dr of Dunk]

That's the point Smeg. He hasn't, but that's the gamble we're both taking. I'm betting he won't average the 40 he has been the past few seasons and definitely not in time for me to battle some of the better teams in the league, and he's betting that even getting 20-30 out of him per game would mean he got the upper hand in the trade. Hardaway is the gamble for both of us. He's not trying to win the league with this one trade, just trying to improve his own team. I'm just trying to hang on for dear life. This deal by no means means I've won anything. If Penny scores over 35-40 a game, then I probably made a mistake in trading him.

We'll see...

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[This message has been edited by Dr of Dunk (edited January 01, 2001).]

[Dr of Dunk]

Ignore this post, I have no idea what it's doing here. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/mad.gif

[This message has been edited by Dr of Dunk (edited January 01, 2001).]

[SmeggySmeg]

For myself and by the sounds of it Voice and Fadeaway, there is NO way Hardaway will average over 30 and I suspect that is why we feel it is such a lopsided trade.

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- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[CriscoKidd]

I don't think its a horrible trade.

Penny will average 30 to 40 FP a game, it's just a question of when? By the time he gets back into form it may make any benefits of the trade moot. The timing of the trade could have been just a little better, that's all, like a week before Hardaway comes back or something.

SSG doesn't have that much to lose right now, so why not shake things up and roll the dice?

BTW, I'm still gonna kick Dood's ass, Finley or no.

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[fadeaway]

Another thing to consider is that up to now, Finley hasn't been playing quite as well as he usually does. He got off to a somewhat slow start and that is reflected in his lowered FP per game average. Recently, however, he has pulled out of his slump and has been putting up the kind of numbers he did all last season. Realistically, Finley isn't a 41 FP/g scorer -- he's actually closer to a 47-48 FP/g guy. Yet another reason why this trade is so lopsided.

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[Dr of Dunk]

fadeaway,

Yes, and realistically they now have Nowitzki and Nash firing up points this season; something Finley didn't have in past seasons. That's why Finley has been inconsistent as far as points are concerned this year. The inconsistencies in Finley's numbers you're seeing are realistic because it's caused by Nowitzki's and Nash's emergence.

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[fadeaway]

DoD..

Maybe, maybe no. I think deep down inside you really agree with us and are just trying to defend the trade long enough for it to pass through the contesting period. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif

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[Behad]

Originally posted by fadeaway:
DoD..

Maybe, maybe no. I think deep down inside you really agree with us and are just trying to defend the trade long enough for it to pass through the contesting period. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif




I was thinking the same thing, fadeaway. Last year I got Barkley for a couple of scrubs in a trade. I had half the owners screaming collusion! I had to defend that trade for 48 hours, then laughed my a$$ off afterwards.

(Of course, Barkley then went down for the year, but that's a different story.)

I get the same feeling about this trade.


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[countingcrow]

I am not part of your league and my opinion probably doesn't mean jack, but I thought that was pretty fair trade. Giving up Finley is not easy, and unless Penny comes back and puts up close to a 40 FP then this trade can be questioned. But I think Penny will do well when he comes back so I think SSG did well on his part. DoD came out like a bandit snagging Finley right now when he is at his hottest.

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[Behad]

Originally posted by countingcrow:
DoD came out like a bandit snagging Finley right now when he is at his hottest.



When the leader of the pack makes a trade that has him making "out like a bandit", then I cannot see where you can call that "a pretty fair trade".

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Behad
Sergeant at Arms of the Clutch BBS

[Summer Song Giver]

I just hope you all remember jumping all over me when I contested the Ewing,Marion trade saying the contest feature should be saved for when cheating is evident.I would hope you all would show the same courtesy you asked me to show.I'm happy with this trade,DoD is happy and there is no cheating so by y'alls own admission contesting this trade is wrong.Thank you.

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[SmeggySmeg]

no one said they were going to contest the trade, there appears to be no collusion, so what can we do, nothing, so chill SSG.

This thread for most us, especially those with hopes of catching DoD is just a chance to blow off some steam and express some extreme disappointment at what could be a league destroying trade, sure Dr you might long term lose some depth, but for me (and others) Penny has not been a factor far and in all likely wasn't really going to help you soon.

So for me i seriously believe this trade is Sabonis and Finley for Howard and Johnson, that is i don't count Penny in it at all and thats why it is such a farce of a trade.

SSG, so what if you got Penny, so what if he comes back in March and plays great, DoD will be so far in front by then and you will be so far behind aswell, that it won't matter, let alone the fact the Suns are so deep, he probably won't score over 30 anyway.

Disillusioned Smeg


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- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Dr of Dunk]

Originally posted by fadeaway:
DoD..

Maybe, maybe no. I think deep down inside you really agree with us and are just trying to defend the trade long enough for it to pass through the contesting period. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif



Actually, deep down inside I don't agree with you guys. Do I think I got the better end of the deal? Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have made the deal, but it took about 2-3 days and about 9 emails before I caved in and accepted.

As for keeping you guys occupied here while the deadline for contesting passes, I didn't know it was so easy to divert your attention.

I command you to sit here in this thread and stare at this screen, not change URL's, and thereby give up your ability to contest the trade... you will do as I say... you will do as I say... http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif LOL!

As for what I said, you guys still haven't countered with anything substantive other than "it's unfair" and will give the league to me. I still haven't figured that one out and have shot it down simply by asking you to look at the offensive output to-date by the various teams. How exactly does that give the league to me.

Besides, if you are saying that Penny can't produce 35-40 ppg because he hasn't, then you can't say Finley should produce 47-48 points... because quite frankly... he hasn't. And like I said, with the addition of Nowitzki's upped offense and Steve Nash, he's not the fantasy player he was last year.


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[This message has been edited by Dr of Dunk (edited January 02, 2001).]

[Dr of Dunk]

Originally posted by Behad:

I was thinking the same thing, fadeaway. Last year I got Barkley for a couple of scrubs in a trade. I had half the owners screaming collusion! I had to defend that trade for 48 hours, then laughed my a$$ off afterwards.

(Of course, Barkley then went down for the year, but that's a different story.)

I get the same feeling about this trade.




Did you tie all the people "screaming collusion" to the their desks and take their mouse away, too? Or were they really that stupid? lol!

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[SmeggySmeg]

Originally posted by Dr of Dunk:
As for what I said, you guys still haven't countered with anything substantive other than "it's unfair" and will give the league to me. I still haven't figured that one out and have shot it down simply by asking you to look at the offensive output to-date by the various teams. How exactly does that give the league to me.

Besides, if you are saying that Penny can't produce 35-40 ppg because he hasn't, then you can't say Finley should produce 47-48 points... because quite frankly... he hasn't. And like I said, with the addition of Nowitzki's upped offense and Steve Nash, he's not the fantasy player he was last year.



Dr,

I never suggested collusion, but how can you not say you come out completely on top in this trade, my argument for this making it real tough for you to no win the league is based on the fact you are whooping up us already and that is with one big weakness (Johnson) and Howard as your SF, i don't count penny is an issue, i reckon he is good for 30ppg but who knows when, too late for it to be a factor. So really you have upgraded C and SF on the top ranked team in the league.



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- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Dr of Dunk]

Originally posted by SmeggySmeg:
no one said they were going to contest the trade, there appears to be no collusion, so what can we do, nothing, so chill SSG.

This thread for most us, especially those with hopes of catching DoD is just a chance to blow off some steam and express some extreme disappointment at what could be a league destroying trade, sure Dr you might long term lose some depth, but for me (and others) Penny has not been a factor far and in all likely wasn't really going to help you soon.

So for me i seriously believe this trade is Sabonis and Finley for Howard and Johnson, that is i don't count Penny in it at all and thats why it is such a farce of a trade.

SSG, so what if you got Penny, so what if he comes back in March and plays great, DoD will be so far in front by then and you will be so far behind aswell, that it won't matter, let alone the fact the Suns are so deep, he probably won't score over 30 anyway.

Disillusioned Smeg




Smeg,

I understand that perfectly. I understand what everybody's saying. I did the math for you guys that even if you DON'T include Penny in this deal, I'm only up'ing my points per fantasy game by about 30 points. You guys have offenses that are head and shoulders about this. I'm in first place by sheer luck-of-schedule; I'll be the first to admit this.

For anyone to call this a "Stackhousegate"-type deal is ludicrous. That deal was so lopsided, it was ridiculous. This is not as lopsided as everyone makes out. In the end it may very well be lopsided, but it may be lopsided in my favor or in SSG's. I need points now, not towards the end of the month or next month when Penny is supposed to get it in gear.

Step back and be realistic, you and Crisco still have the highest powered offenses out there with fadeaway and Pimp right there with you.

This just so happens to be a deal where I happened to improve my 2 weakest positions. Big deal, it's not like I got 2 50 pt players for duds. I still have to worry about Sabonis screwing his knee up and Penny scoring even 30 pts.

I just think everybody's complaining more about "Doc staying ahead" than whether this is a fair trade or not. On paper, I defy anyone to say this is as lopsided as they claim. Based on numbers, not on hunches.

Chill out guys... like I said, this season is far from over. Not even close. I'm still saying the likes of Smeg and Crisco will catch me and/or my luck-of-scheduling will run out soon.

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[Dr of Dunk]

Originally posted by SmeggySmeg:
Dr,

I never suggested collusion, but how can you not say you come out completely on top in this trade, my argument for this making it real tough for you to no win the league is based on the fact you are whooping up us already and that is with one big weakness (Johnson) and Howard as your SF, i don't count penny is an issue, i reckon he is good for 30ppg but who knows when, too late for it to be a factor. So really you have upgraded C and SF on the top ranked team in the league.


I understand completely Smeg. I'm not denying that I've been "whooping up" on you guys. But it hasn't been because my team has been great. It's a very good team with good depth, but all I ask is you guys look at the offensive output by the teams. I'm middle-of-the-road to above average at best. What you're asking me to do is take responsibility for sheer luck. There was a streak there where I think I won games by 1, 4, and maybe 20 points on recounts the next day. I'm not that much better than anybody else in this league. Not sure what else I can say.

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[SmeggySmeg]

Originally posted by Dr of Dunk:
Smeg,

I just think everybody's complaining more about "Doc staying ahead" than whether this is a fair trade or not. On paper, I defy anyone to say this is as lopsided as they claim. Based on numbers, not on hunches.

Chill out guys... like I said, this season is far from over. Not even close. I'm still saying the likes of Smeg and Crisco will catch me and/or my luck-of-scheduling will run out soon.



Dr

My last post may have over emphasised the whole Dr is staying front thing, which is just jealousy, which is probablt fair enough for me after going through a 7 game losing streak cause of injuries and poor scheduling (think i am about to hit another stretch of poor scheduling).

But for me, Penny will have minimal impact this year, and because of this i believe it is an extremely lop-sided trade, of close to Stackhousegat proportions, I hope i am wrong and penny produces real big and sabonis blows the remaining cartilege in his knees.

Smeg



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- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Dr of Dunk]

Well if it makes you any happier, Jim Jackson was just traded, meaning I probably have 2 less games to work with against Behad because I doubt JJ will see any action.... http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/mad.gif

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[The Voice of Reason]

OK OK OK OK,


this is getting too heated.

I posted earlier in this thread stating my concerns. I did this because I truely have some concerns that this trade could put DOD out front for good. I also think he is still quite beatable. the only reason it would bother me, and probably everyone else here is because this league is so close. I think there are 6-8 legit contenders in this league.

I do agree that the reason DoD is on top is by luck of scheduel. but he does have a damn good team that just got better.

I just everyone chills out, and stays active in this league. this trade may be the wake up call some of us need to pull the trigger on trades of our own.

not happy, but not gonna cry about it. I have games to win.

PEACE

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http://www.hanta-force.com

[Dr of Dunk]

Maybe I came off as pissed-off... I think it's more a sense of shock/disbelief than pissed. I'm not... so please don't think that I am. I hold no malice towards any of you guys...

...especially not while I stomp a mudhole in your asses all the way up to the championship!!!!!!!

(joke guys. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif)

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[This message has been edited by Dr of Dunk (edited January 02, 2001).]

[SmeggySmeg]

Originally posted by The Voice of Reason:
OK OK OK OK,

this is getting too heated.

PEACE



Everyone is chilled and i always was



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- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[RocketsPimp]

Originally posted by Dr of Dunk:
Step back and be realistic, you and Crisco still have the highest powered offenses out there with fadeaway and Pimp right there with you.



I wouldn't exactly say I have a "high powered offense", but thanks anyway. Even with your added fire power I'm still going to rip you a new you know what next time we play, while praying Shaq goes down with season ending toe surgery http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif



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[SmeggySmeg]

the Farse is complete now, start your bragging DoD

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"What is it with this girl, has she got beer flavoured nipples??"
- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Behad]

Originally posted by Summer Song Giver:
I just hope you all remember jumping all over me when I contested the Ewing,Marion trade saying the contest feature should be saved for when cheating is evident.


I just re-read that portion of the old thread and the only mention of contesting that trade was in this one post:

Originally posted by Summer Song Giver:
IMHO Behad you got ripped on this one,old a$$ed Ewing is still worth three Marions I will contest this one.

So no one was jumping all over you. Obviously, everyone else saw what I saw in Marion, just like everyone seeing how lopsided this trade is.

DoD, I gotta hand it to ya. You got away with one. But I'm only 70 down with 4 of my five best scorers going tonight, while Ervin Johnson is still a HoopDaddie!! With a little luck, I just might pull off the upset.

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[This message has been edited by Behad (edited January 03, 2001).]

[Summer Song Giver]

I agree noone was jumping all over me it did kind of feel the post was directed towards me though,but the passage is in there,trust me it is.I'm also sorry you all feel I'm giving the league to DoD,I don't,time will tell though.

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[This message has been edited by Summer Song Giver (edited January 03, 2001).]

[Behad]

Originally posted by Summer Song Giver:
I'm also sorry you all feel I'm giving the league to DoD,I don't,time will tell though.



Let's look at this from another angle....irregardless of what you did to help DoD, what could possibly want with Ervin Johnson? For the life of me, I can't understand how he will help your team.

(Please note that I am at work and do not have access to sandbox.com, so I don't see your roster.)

But surely you could have worked a better deal than this. Johnson would have to improve to be considered a scrub. Penny is still scoring as much as Alonzo Mourning. Why would you give up Sabonis and Finley for just Howard?

Don't take this too personal, but your comment on Ewing for Marion and this trade leads me to believe that you have very little fantasy basketball sense.

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[The Voice of Reason]

I hate when people use "irregardless" as though it was a word. Im not a tight ass english major. infact i have terrible spelling and punctuation, but this is a pet peve of mine. irregardless is NOT a word. the word you are looking for in this context is REGARDLESS. i dont even know where the IRR comes from it must be some evolutionary thing caused by television http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif i dunno. so many people make this mistake it just confuses me.

well sorry for getting off subject.

nothing personal man, just an issue I have with the english language.

PEACE

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[RocketsPimp]

Ummmm.....ok....I'm not touching that one!

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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[Behad]

Originally posted by The Voice of Reason:
I hate when people use "irregardless" as though it was a word.

nothing personal man, just an issue I have with the english language.

PEACE



irregardless adv : in spite of everything; without regard to drawbacks; "he carried on regardless of the difficulties" [syn: regardless, irrespective, disregardless, no matter, disregarding]


Straight from the dictionary. Yes, it is a non-standard word, but an acceptible word in casual conversation.


You need help with your punctuation and capitalization. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif

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[This message has been edited by Behad (edited January 03, 2001).]

[The Voice of Reason]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Behad:
[b]irregardless adv : in spite of everything; without regard to drawbacks; "he carried on regardless of the difficulties" [syn: regardless, irrespective, disregardless, no matter, disregarding]

did anyone else notice that even in the dictionary example they use the word REgardless instead of IRRegardless. I swear to you that it is NOT a word it is a mispronunciation of a word that has become sadly quite popular. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif

hehe yup my written english is horrible

peace

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[Behad]

Note to everyone: VOR ain't gonna like y'all using words that ain't in the dictionary. I gotta remember that 'cuz I ain't gonna have him jumpin on my vocabulary use. Noone use irregardless ever.

Gotcha! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif


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[SmeggySmeg]

geez why everyone so tetchy (now i know that word won't be in the dictionary)

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- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[SmeggySmeg]

so did anyone have Tony Delk in their team

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"What is it with this girl, has she got beer flavoured nipples??"
- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[RocketsPimp]

The Pythons have him, although he wasn't active for the big game last night.

Can you believe Delk scored 53 points but only 69 fantasy points!

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[RocketsPimp]

Post 2222...do I get a bonus for that Clutch?

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[DVauthrin]

in my opion this is a fair deal..yes finley is good but howard and penny for finley seems more than fair to me..as for penny..its a risk but if the other owner is willing to shakeup his team then its ok.. Its not collusionary and i dont think finley makes him an instant title winner especially with the most dominant player in fantasy basketball on smegs team..as for ssgs team i understand his point of view..hes getting penny and howard for finley which improves a struggling team..yes theres a risk involved but if hes willing to take it..then go through with it..anyways thats my take..although it be nice if i could see each teams roster to truly evaluate it.

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[Dr of Dunk]

Originally posted by SmeggySmeg:
so did anyone have Tony Delk in their team



I think Delk is on Finn's team... but I'm not sure he started him.

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[fadeaway]

Originally posted by The Voice of Reason:
I hate when people use "irregardless" as though it was a word. Im not a tight ass english major. infact i have terrible spelling and punctuation, but this is a pet peve of mine. irregardless is NOT a word. the word you are looking for in this context is REGARDLESS. i dont even know where the IRR comes from it must be some evolutionary thing caused by television http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif i dunno. so many people make this mistake it just confuses me.

well sorry for getting off subject.

nothing personal man, just an issue I have with the english language.

PEACE




Well, that's certainly the pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it.


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[Dr of Dunk]

Much whining snipped...


DoD, I gotta hand it to ya. You got away with one. But I'm only 70 down with 4 of my five best scorers going tonight, while Ervin Johnson is still a HoopDaddie!! With a little luck, I just might pull off the upset.

Well, you're going against quite possibly my 3 best players. Ervin won't do much for me, but if he can even give me 20+ I'll be happy. And of course Jim Jackson more than likely won't play.

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"I give up. Oh my holy hell I give up." -- Clutch expresses utter frustration in encountering difficulties trying to communicate across a damn bbs. (It's even funnier if you picture Homer Simpson saying it)

[This message has been edited by Dr of Dunk (edited January 03, 2001).]

[SmeggySmeg]

Where is our esteemed League Creator anyway??????

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"What is it with this girl, has she got beer flavoured nipples??"
- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Dr of Dunk]

I was gonna post the same thing. Bob's probably on an extended vacation with his PC... If he tells me he has a life, I'm gonna be pissed, 'cause I'll have to go get one, too, then.

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"Christ, it's not as if Steve pissed on a guy!!!!!" -- cson makes a return to my quotable sig as he comments on how Steve Francis should not be T'd up for slapping the backboard on a dunk...speak loudly cson, you rock!

[SmeggySmeg]

maybe he will get booted from his own fantasy league for leaving his team unattended

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"What is it with this girl, has she got beer flavoured nipples??"
- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[Dr of Dunk]

Hey, now that would be pretty funny. He'd be impeached. But according to Sandbox, he last checked his roster at 11:39AM today.

Maybe Clutch banned him. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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"Christ, it's not as if Steve pissed on a guy!!!!!" -- cson makes a return to my quotable sig as he comments on how Steve Francis should not be T'd up for slapping the backboard on a dunk...speak loudly cson, you rock!

[SmeggySmeg]

you can only hope

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"What is it with this girl, has she got beer flavoured nipples??"
- Heath Ledger in 10 things I hate about you

[RocketsPimp]

Too many "I agree" or smiley posts perhaps.

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President of the Moochie Norris Fan Club - est. 99-00

[Behad]

Originally posted by RocketsPimp:
Too many "I agree" or smiley posts perhaps.



I agree! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif



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Behad
Sergeant at Arms of the Clutch BBS

[RocketsPimp]

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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President of the Moochie Norris Fan Club - est. 99-00

[SmeggySmeg]

DoD,

So with Penny down again and mostly likely out for the season, it looks like you got away with Howard and Ervin for Sabonis and Finley, nice scam DOD and complete farse. Love your work Playground.

SSG for GM of the Year.

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CUT Tino
These Heaves are just getting Ridiculous!

[Summer Song Giver]

SaWeet

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Now chew through my ball sack

[BobFinn*]

*&^%$#@@*()(^%$@# http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/mad.gif

Freakin Nash!!! Cost me 2 games!!! WIMP!!!

I agree, nice trade D0D http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif

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When we tire of well-worn ways, we seek for new. This restless craving in the souls of men spurs them to climb, and to seek the mountain view.
-- Ella Wheeler Wilcox

[This message has been edited by BobFinn* (edited January 16, 2001).]

[Dr of Dunk]

For a second there I thought Penny was coming on and going to make me look like a fool. He was racking up 20+ point games almost immediately. And then Slowboneness got a mighty 6-point effort in one game (shades of Ervin Johnson). But ok, I'll concede that if Penny doesn't come back and Finley and Sabonis don't get injured, I got the better of the deal... but like I said, Penny was the gamble. Now Slowboneness is my gamble.

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"I personally don't think Jordan would have enjoyed playing with himself." -- JeffB lets us all know that Popeye and Clutch aren't the only ones with inside sources... (also an example of a BBS "sound-bite")

[This message has been edited by Dr of Dunk (edited January 17, 2001).]

[fadeaway]

Aww.. shaddap..

Everyone and their mother knows you cleaned up with that trade. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif The secret's out..

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My dream job is to be a Houston Rockets towel boy.

[SmeggySmeg]

why is only SSG thought Penny was guarenteed to suceed

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CUT Tino
These Heaves are just getting Ridiculous!

[Dr of Dunk]

Originally posted by fadeaway:
Aww.. shaddap..

Everyone and their mother knows you cleaned up with that trade. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif The secret's out..



Oh come on! You know you guys were getting nervous seeing Penny put up good numbers in 20 mins of play per game right off the bat. I was almost hoping he would do well so I could rub it in your faces, but oh well. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Anyway the Howard for Finley swap has been about dead even I think.

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"I personally don't think Jordan would have enjoyed playing with himself." -- JeffB lets us all know that Popeye and Clutch aren't the only ones with inside sources... (also an example of a BBS "sound-bite")

[SmeggySmeg]

Originally posted by Dr of Dunk:
Oh come on! You know you guys were getting nervous seeing Penny put up good numbers in 20 mins of play per game right off the bat. I was almost hoping he would do well so I could rub it in your faces, but oh well. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Anyway the Howard for Finley swap has been about dead even I think.


yeah, yeah Dr, keeping up this talk Dr and you'll eventually convince yourself that stealing lollies from babies is ok


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CUT Tino
These Heaves are just getting Ridiculous!