[Rumor] A. Randolph for D. Lee close?

[Tornadoofsoul6]

The Warriors are close to a sign-and-trade with the New York Knicks for their All-Star power forward David Lee, according to multiple sources. The Warriors would send forward Anthony Randolph — not guard Monta Ellis as previously rumored — along with a few other pieces to New York. But, like the rest of the universe, they are waiting on LeBron James.

If James announces he's decided to play anywhere but New York, the Warriors are in play for Lee. The Warriors are one of a few teams in the mix for Lee via a sign-and-trade with the Knicks. And the Warriors have an offer the Knicks favor, a team source said.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_15459741?source=rss&nclick_check=1

[steddinotayto]

Good move for both teams.

[Depressio]

And yet... the Warriors will still be awful.

[wreck]

this is actually a great move for the knicks. suddenly it looks like they know what theyre doing :eek:

[rockets934life]

What the heck are the Warriors doing??? Knicks got their stuff together, Walsh went all in and looks like he knew what he was doing.

[m_cable]

Lee is pretty much perfect for Nellieball. I hope it happens, especially since it would mean Lebron wouldn't be heading to NY.

[dakeem1]

If I were D Lee, i would block this sign-and-trade. Going to the Warrios would ruin his career if he wants to win. If he wants to bolster his stats, I guess it's a good move though.

[Dave_78]

Knicks take a step back THIS season if they do this deal. Randolph has a huge upside but he isn't better than Lee is. Maybe down the road....

[smoothie]

lee wants about $10M, randolph makes about $2M.

who else would the knicks get to make up the salary difference? i would expect ending contracts of gadzuric, turiaf, or azubuike. any 2 of those 3 would help fill out the roster without compromising cap space for next season.

[steddinotayto]

Knicks take a step back THIS season if they do this deal. Randolph has a huge upside but he isn't better than Lee is. Maybe down the road....

What are you talking about? They signed Amare and if they get LeBron, trading Lee for Randolph rather than letting Lee leave for nothing is pure genius.

Amare/Randolph/LeBron/Wilson Chandler/Gallinari? Sure their backcourt is nonexistent at the time being, but they would have one of the deepest front courts in the NBA.

[Carl Herrera]

This only happens if Lebron turns NY down. Otherwise, NY will not be able to sign & trade David Lee's rights under cap rules.

[SmeggySmeg]

Damn imagine the smarts in the Knicks front court, surely a chess board will permanently set up for amare v Randolph

[Dave_78]

What are you talking about? They signed Amare and if they get LeBron, trading Lee for Randolph rather than letting Lee leave for nothing is pure genius.

Amare/Randolph/LeBron/Wilson Chandler/Gallinari? Sure their backcourt is nonexistent at the time being, but they would have one of the deepest front courts in the NBA.

What are YOU talking about? I was speaking about Lee vs. Randolph. I think Lee is a better player right now.

[robbie380]

This only happens if Lebron turns NY down. Otherwise, NY will not be able to sign & trade David Lee's rights under cap rules.

WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR FACTS!!!!!1!11!!!!!

[steddinotayto]

What are YOU talking about? I was speaking about Lee vs. Randolph. I think Lee is a better player right now.

I'm talking about the rationale in having Amare AND Lee on the same team. Last I checked, Randolph's defense is a lot better than Lee's and if you're going to have a big man play alongside Amare, it better be a defensive big.

And as smoothie pointed out, why have Lee eating capspace at $10+ a year when can retain Randolph for much less and actually bring in something even a team of LeBron/Amare won't have (i.e. defense)?

[ICanDunkOnYao]

This only happens if Lebron turns NY down. Otherwise, NY will not be able to sign & trade David Lee's rights under cap rules.

what about lee's bird rights?

[ArtV]

what about lee's bird rights?

NYKs have to renounce Lee (No SnT) before they have the money for Lebron. They will only renounce Lee if Lebron says yes but once he does NY cuts ties with Lee.

This is their Plan B.

[J.R.]

The Warriors and Knicks are in advanced talks about a sign-and-trade arrangement that would send free-agent power forward David Lee to the Bay Area for Anthony Randolph and Ronny Turiaf, two people involved in the talks confirmed to CBSSports.com. The trade is being set up as a contingency plan for the Knicks if James chooses to sign with another team Thursday. If James chooses to sign with the Knicks, they will have to renounced his rights -- and thus the rights to sign and trade him under the Larry Bird exception -- in order to clear the necessary salary cap space. Lee's agent, Mark Bartelstein, also is believed to have maintained contact with the Nets, who are in danger of getting shut out in the free-agent chase. But the Golden State scenario for Lee has legs, to an extent.

"It's got legs," one of the people involved in the talks said. "But it needs arms, a torso and a head."

The Knicks, who like other teams in the hunt for James have no clue what he's going to announce Thursday, are exploring other scenarios in which they re-sign Lee -- although Lee is believed to be ready to move on. If James says no to the Knicks, and team president Donnie Walsh orchestrates the Lee trade, then Randolph and Turiaf will go down in ignominy as the players the Knicks got instead of LeBron. If nothing else, that would take some pressure off Amar'e Stoudemire, who will be introduced Thursday in a news conference at MSG

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/23074654

[rpr52121]

Lee is pretty much perfect for Nellieball. I hope it happens, especially since it would mean Lebron wouldn't be heading to NY.

Lee has to get someone to give him the ball in a position where he can score. Look at 82games, most of his shots are assisted. Who on that team is going to pass him the ball? Stephen Curry is their best passer, but is still a SG in a PG body.

[Spacemoth]

Umm, don't the Knicks already have Amare? Where the hell are they going to put Randolph? They're both lanky underweight PF's with offensive quickness but no predilection for playing any sort of defense...oh wait, that's perfect for the Knicks nowadays.

This makes so much sense that I feel like Golden State and New York should just exclusively make trades to each other for the rest of the year. They're basically mirror images of each other in opposite conferences.

[J.R.]

gswscribe David Lee has agreed to the deal with the Warriors, gets $13 million a year

[REEKO_HTOWN]

gswscribe David Lee has agreed to the deal with the Warriors, gets $13 million a year

Holy Sh--!!!

that's a lot of money.

[steddinotayto]

Holy Sh--!!!

that's a lot of money.

Not bad considering Boozer got 16 mill a year for almost the same type of production. Lee in NellieBall offense should be the same in terms of efficiency and production when he played under D'Antoni.

[REEKO_HTOWN]

Not bad considering Boozer got 16 mill a year for almost the same type of production. Lee in NellieBall offense should be the same in terms of efficiency and production when he played under D'Antoni.

David Lee is a Scola copy cat. Boozer is overpaid but he's also proven on playoff teams. Lee is a stat filler on a lotto D'Antonie team.

[worzel gummidge]

Holy Sh--!!!

that's a lot of money.
It's not $13M in the first year though. Boozer is getting $16M/yr but it starts at around $13.5M.

[REEKO_HTOWN]

It's not $13M in the first year though. Boozer is getting $16M/yr but it starts at around $13.5M.

I heard it's 80 mill 5 years. Same as Boozer.

EDIT: It's 6 years (S&T) for $80 mil.

[MorningZippo]

Umm, don't the Knicks already have Amare? Where the hell are they going to put Randolph? They're both lanky underweight PF's with offensive quickness but no predilection for playing any sort of defense...oh wait, that's perfect for the Knicks nowadays.

This makes so much sense that I feel like Golden State and New York should just exclusively make trades to each other for the rest of the year. They're basically mirror images of each other in opposite conferences.

Amare and Anthony Randolph may be similar in physical attributes but what they bring to the table NOW is drastically different.

That's not to say that Randolph may develop into more of an offensive threat, but right now, his 2 biggest strengths are rebounding and weak-side shot blocking, which is what a team with Amare needs.

He's far from useless on offense, but I think he would make a great defensive add on to New York as well.

[steddinotayto]

David Lee is a Scola copy cat. Boozer is overpaid but he's also proven on playoff teams. Lee is a stat filler on a lotto D'Antonie team.

Ergo, he will be a stat filler on a lotto Nelson team. I'm not high on Lee but he does produce solid numbers. Sure it may be on a crap team but it's not like he's getting paid AND NOT putting up solid numbers.

If anything, I think the Warriors wanted to get this deal done is because they REALLY don't want Randolph despite what they've told the media the past year.

[blahblehblah]

UUUUgggh!!!! As a warriors fan, this trade sucks! David Lee's number are inflated, his defense is awful and he is NOT worth 13mil per season.
Despite limited and sporadic playing time... Anthony Randolph had shown tons of potential, was already a much better defensive player than Lee could hope to be and was only being paid 2mil per. Randolph's main problem was in dealing with Don Nelson and his propensity not to play rookies and pf without a 3 point shot. The better question might be who hasnt had a problem the last few years... Monte, Jackson, Harrington, Crawford, Baron, the list goes on and on. David Lee might be perfect for Don Nelson, but guess what, Nelson and his system wont be here after next season and maybe sooner.

To make this trade worst, the warriors traded away two solid players on great contracts, in Kelena Azuibuke and Ronny Turiaf, instead of dumping charlie bell or radmonovich or gadzuric.