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Tigerknee
03-28-2010, 02:36 PM
I'm a big time NBA fan (obviously since I'm on this board) but I cannot stand watching college basketball. Yes the defense is better but to me, the game just consists of them passing until the 35(!!!) second shotclock goes down and then a desperation 3.

Maybe I need to watch it more?

Baseballa
03-28-2010, 02:41 PM
I'm a big time NBA fan (obviously since I'm on this board) but I cannot stand watching college basketball. Yes the defense is better but to me, the game just consists of them passing until the 35(!!!) second shotclock goes down and then a desperation 3.

Maybe I need to watch it more?

Turn on the Michigan St./Tennessee game right now. If you can't appreciate the intensity of this game, then I don't know what to tell you.

Shaud
03-28-2010, 02:43 PM
I agree with this sometimes. It does depends on the style of play though. Their are some teams who play up tempo.

junglerules
03-28-2010, 02:53 PM
Sorry, man. We are all entitled to our opinions, but I can't relate to yours at all. I think the atmosphere of a college basketball game, especially come March, is way beyond that of the NBA. Of course the NBA should put out a better product- it's the cream of the crop, talent-wise. But I prefer the intensity and atmosphere of college any day to the NBA. And I loved the NBA more than anything else growing up.

Tigerknee
03-28-2010, 03:03 PM
Sorry, man. We are all entitled to our opinions, but I can't relate to yours at all. I think the atmosphere of a college basketball game, especially come March, is way beyond that of the NBA. Of course the NBA should put out a better product- it's the cream of the crop, talent-wise. But I prefer the intensity and atmosphere of college any day to the NBA. And I loved the NBA more than anything else growing up.

Oh atmosphere no question college is better. I'm just talking about the game itself.

The Joker
03-28-2010, 03:07 PM
Give me the passion for the game shown in college over the NBA any day of the week and twice on Sundays. These kids play for the love of the sport and it shows.

Ziggy
03-28-2010, 03:12 PM
It can be difficult because the post game is so neutered. Its funny, you see amazing looking college point guards disappear at the next level and you get statistically marginal post players who explode. It is what it is.

ansfjs73
03-28-2010, 03:36 PM
I'm a big time NBA fan (obviously since I'm on this board) but I cannot stand watching college basketball. Yes the defense is better but to me, the game just consists of them passing until the 35(!!!) second shotclock goes down and then a desperation 3.

Maybe I need to watch it more?
i agree with you. once i saw a game and it was T-E-R-R-B-L-E. i dont remember what teams but there was absoulotley NO offense and NO defense what so ever so i never saw any college basketball again

BaMcMing
03-28-2010, 03:45 PM
I think it comes down to what style of play you prefer. If you like 5 man basketball, off the ball screens, and movement; the NCAA ball is where it's at.

If you prefer iso's and incredible individual talent, then the NBA is the answer.

I like em both for different reasons, but prefer the 5 man style.

josh123
03-28-2010, 03:52 PM
I agree.
that is all.

A_3PO
03-28-2010, 03:53 PM
OP, I certainly understand where you are coming from. One of the problems with college basketball is the product is so watered down because the best players leave after one or two years. Years ago, college basketball was totally awesome.

Convictedstupid
03-28-2010, 05:51 PM
Its still basketball which means I am going to watch it.

v3.0
03-28-2010, 09:41 PM
I remember making a thread like this a few years ago, college bball die hards didn't take too kind of it heh. I've been casually watching the tournament but that's as far I'll go.

sammy
03-29-2010, 12:52 AM
To each their own.

NBA, NFL, college basketball & football are my favorites hands down.

It would be lovely if the Astros could make some noise though or it's going to be a boring summer.

Edit: I forgot about the World Cup. I'm excited about that.

MONON
03-29-2010, 01:31 AM
I love the Rockets & I like watching the NBA. However I enjoy watching the college game simply because of the officiating. It's so refreshing to see traveling & moving screens called correctly. There isn't all the "star" treatment in college that exists in the NBA. The NBA is almost becoming an exhibition rather than a contest.

da_juice
03-29-2010, 08:43 AM
I like watching college basketball because of the fast paced game but... some of the players have very poor fundamentals and because players are only on a team for a max. of four years and because there are so many teams(unlike the NBA which only has 30) I can never keep track of how individual players or doing

DaDakota
03-29-2010, 08:59 AM
The college players play hard all the time, NBA players do not.

DD

ItsMyFault
03-29-2010, 09:13 AM
The college players play hard all the time, NBA players do not.

DD

NBA players do it for a living, they play almost 8 times more per season... it's really not comparable. You can take a night off in the NBA and still get away with it because there are a number of factors that go into it... college is different, it really isn't tolerated.

MisterPink
03-29-2010, 10:18 AM
I like watching college basketball because of the fast paced game but... some of the players have very poor fundamentals and because players are only on a team for a max. of four years and because there are so many teams(unlike the NBA which only has 30) I can never keep track of how individual players or doing

It's easier if you just try and follow one team closely. Then you can watch that team and the other teams in their conference. Watch the big guys on Monday and Wednesday nights.

leroy
03-29-2010, 10:44 AM
I don't see how anyone can say that if they honestly watched this tournament. Nearly every game has come down to the last few possessions and there have been many upsets. Butler is in the freaking Final 4. How about Northern Iowa over Kansas? St. Mary's over Villanova...who nearly lost to Robert Morris? Sam Houston State takes Baylor to the wire.

This has been one of the best tournaments in recent memory. Maybe the year George Mason went to the Final 4 was up there with this one.

shoodomoney
03-29-2010, 11:22 AM
I didn't like NCAA ball until.... well, until I went to college. While some of the players are performing for the scouts, most aren't good enough and play with heart, leaving it all on the court. For many of them, their basketball careers end at the college level and it shows by the way the play.

You aren't going to see a spectacular highlight reel, but you will see 5 hungry players play team ball.

acsorelle4
03-29-2010, 11:44 AM
Normally, I would agree simply because of the lopsidedness of the outcomes, with the higher ranked teams usually controlling, and dominating, from wire to wire. Then a year like this one comes along and wrecks thay whole thesis. This season has seen more hotly contested games and upsets than any tournament in the last twenty years. Nearly every game has been a nailbiter as brackets around every office in the nation get relegated to the shredder. A March like this one warrants a dedicated following for years to come.

I could never really get into it because I went to a small liberal arts school and I have trouble rooting for teams that I have no reason to be loyal to. This ultimately led to another reason to follow the NCAA - it enables me to scout future Rockets! :)

Hayesfan
03-29-2010, 02:45 PM
NBA players do it for a living, they play almost 8 times more per season... it's really not comparable. You can take a night off in the NBA and still get away with it because there are a number of factors that go into it... college is different, it really isn't tolerated.


That math does not compute... even if a team goes all the way to the NBA finals the most they can play is 117 games... so I take that times 48 minutes a game.. then divide by 40 to get the number of total minutes played and I get 140 games... whereas the NCAA guys play between 35-40 if they make the finals of the tourney... hence 140 is no where close to 8 times 35 :)

Mr. Space City
03-29-2010, 02:51 PM
NBA basketball would be so much better if they went back to 90's rules

ItsMyFault
03-29-2010, 03:02 PM
That math does not compute... even if a team goes all the way to the NBA finals the most they can play is 117 games... so I take that times 48 minutes a game.. then divide by 40 to get the number of total minutes played and I get 140 games... whereas the NCAA guys play between 35-40 if they make the finals of the tourney... hence 140 is no where close to 8 times 35 :)

Eh, yeah. I just came up with the 8 on the fly really. I didn't even compute the minutes which are big forgetting that college is 40 vs. 48 minutes for the NBA.

rocketblaze
03-29-2010, 06:46 PM
The college players play hard all the time, NBA players do not.

DD

This ^

--RB

SirCharlesFan
03-29-2010, 06:51 PM
Anyone that genuinely believes that "College players give maximum effort all the time, NBA players do not" should undergo forced sterilization.

clos4life
03-29-2010, 06:57 PM
I agree with the OP. College basketball for me is about as exciting as watching golf, I just don't find it exciting. The product quality is extremely inferior to the NBA, it just feel like JV basketball at best..

Talk about passion and how great is the 100% effort college students give. Personally, give me the NBA playoffs, talent is oozing out of every player and the intensity is unmatched. March madness is like march sadness for me, specially in comparison to the upper echelon teams of the NBA going head to head.

CJLarson
03-29-2010, 06:58 PM
Go to nbadraft.net and get familiar with some of the players. I used to not like college ball either, mainly because I didn't know anyone. Reading the scouting reports on these guys makes you want to watch to see if they really do have game.

DudeWah
03-29-2010, 07:07 PM
I think watching college basketball is fun because you get to see intense rivalries, player development, and follow teams you have likely rooted for your whole life. I think it's more of a tradition. It's hard for someone to just pick up watching college ball unless they start at a younger age, or until they go to a school that is good at it.

kayc
03-29-2010, 07:20 PM
i agree with you. once i saw a game and it was T-E-R-R-B-L-E. i dont remember what teams but there was absoulotley NO offense and NO defense what so ever so i never saw any college basketball again

Well i didnt use to like college bball either until i actually sat down and watch it. It is mad exciting so many buzzer beaters its insane. And the tempo changes like that! Sure at times guys rush things and get a little sloppy, but thats part of the learning experience. Love it.

francis 4 prez
03-29-2010, 10:27 PM
The college players play hard all the time,

no they don't.

Anyone that genuinely believes that "College players give maximum effort all the time, NBA players do not" should undergo forced sterilization.

threads like these are where all the BS cliches come out. they play for the love of the game, it's a team game, they give it their all every minute, it's a 5 man game, it's so intense, blah blah blah.

yeah, of course if all you watch every year is the tournament, then it does seem like they play hard all the time. so do nba players in the playoffs. and the nba even benefits from having series because teams can just play their game, whereas in the tournament lots of times teams play tentatively or make decisions they usually wouldn't because of the one and done nature of the tourney. sometimes that adds to the game, sometimes it takes away from it.

it's like people think nba players come from some strange pool of talent completely separate from college players. there are selfish guys, there are unselfish guys, there are teams that play together, there are teams that don't, sometimes everybody comes out fired up, sometimes a team gets rolled by 20 and looks like they'd rather be at a party, sometimes they play as a team, sometimes it's just the guards dribbling a lot.

and if people think playing for the love of the game is a motivator, then i'd say money is a pretty good motivator as well. the number of guys with big contracts who cruise is far smaller than the number of guys who are either a) big time competitors who play hard no matter what (look at the rockets the last few years), b) guys who would love to see that minimum contract become a 3 year guaranteed contract, or that $3M contract become a $5M contract, or that $7M contract become a $10M contract, or that $10M contract become a max contract or c) both. most all professional athletes play hard because there's always someone waiting in the wings who would love to have your contract/your roster spot. college players play hard. pros play hard.

i can understand maybe liking the style of officiating better. in terms of being right and wrong, college officials are worse, but there is less star treatment so if that is one of your pet peeves, i can see that. i hate all of the charges college refs call so i get frustrated seeing that over and over.


i like college basketball, but the reason i can't like college ball more than nba ball is the talent differential is just too damn big. you realize just how ridiculously good nba players are when you watch the tournament. the number of basic mistakes college players make again and again is so frustrating, the plays they don't make that would be routine in the nba are hard to get excited about, and the general lack of cohesion that comes from having to rotate players through 4 years careers (that can be as short as 1 year) just takes a certain polish off the game that i love about the nba. and that doesn't even get into getting to watch the superstars in the nba.

Rocketman95
03-30-2010, 07:16 AM
Anyone that genuinely believes that "College players give maximum effort all the time, NBA players do not" should undergo forced sterilization.

anyone who believes that one's opinions about sports should result in forced sterilization should be sodomized by christian laettner.

Garner
03-30-2010, 09:36 AM
I'm a big time NBA fan (obviously since I'm on this board) but I cannot stand watching college basketball. Yes the defense is better but to me, the game just consists of them passing until the 35(!!!) second shotclock goes down and then a desperation 3.

Maybe I need to watch it more?

I understand your where you are coming on this and once felt the same.

Being a student at Texas Tech, there is not much to get excited about in the form of Basketball. So, I've found myself only going to games in which we are playing an opposing team with a player that will transition well into the NBA, such as:

Durant, Beasely, Griffin, Udoh, etc

It makes the draft much more exciting having a small grasp on what these guys are all about.

Beyond that, if you can't enjoy the tournament, there is something wrong with you.

Z-Ro&Trae
03-30-2010, 08:28 PM
college players give alot of effort out there. nba players have the " im already paid, so i wont try hard" attitude, and you can tell by the way they play.

DeAleck
04-02-2010, 12:46 AM
College basketball is the one of the best things in my life now, much better than the NBA, NFL, and even college football.

I used to hate college basketball. Boring offense, no creativity, no talent continuity... then I went to Duke. :p ;) :grin:

Painting_Shade
04-02-2010, 11:36 AM
I don't understand the "college kids play harder" thing.

if you don't think nba players play hard, you're fooling yourself. yes, there are some instances where a star player will give up on the court (tmac) but nba players play hard. they just make it look easy.