Chicago Tribune draft order

[CriscoKidd]

tHAT'S It then. We are gonna get Demarr Johnson. end of story. I guess that ends heypards talk of big men.

*wink*

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[haven]

I don't think several of those will come out... it seems like they listed the draft order without even considering undergraduate plans. An interesting read, anyway.

[Clutch]

"Not only am I president of the WaltWizFanClub, I'm also the member."

Oh CriscoKidd -- stop. That was too damn much... classic!

Obviously it's early so hard to critique Sam Smith for this -- he should be praised for giving it a shot -- but if Morris comes out I can't see him at the bottom of the lottery, much less Quentin Richardson and Chris Porter being mid to late first round picks.

[thacabbage]

He's got Konkac at #2 - possible #1.

CoughCoughCough

[4chuckie]

I'm surprised he doesn't have Scoonie Penn or Michael Redd (both fr Ohio State)listed in his picks

[Groogrux]

cabbage,

So does just about every NBA scout. I guess you know something they don't?

[DaDakota]

Cabbage,

Stop stealing my lines.

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif

DaDakota

The Mihm Koncak comparison is copyrighted by DaDakota, any attempt to use this comparison without the express written consent of the Jon Koncak for Hall of Fame committee is expressly forbiden.

[DaDakota]

Rocketman 95,

Yes he knows something they don't. As do I ...MIHM IS SOFT !!!! SOFT..SOFT..SOFT, any softer and he would be a babies ass.

DaDakota

[rocketsfan34]

I think this explains why they're writers, not in the NBA. I can bet you the Lakers, Rockets, or Suns were not any of those execs. Must been the Clips, and those other teams that don't know how to scout.

1. Fizer is good, but he's a true tweener. 6'7" plays PF game. Not sure I would want him that high.

2. I'll say to all you people again, the best player in the draft is DerMarr Johnson. Imagine a skinny Glen Rice with defense. If he can bulk up, he'll be a killer. #8???? Now you know why the Clips always stay on bottom.

3. Damnit, people are noticing Swift now. Argh!

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[DocRiverPhoenixSunScreen@]

Where's Mateen Cleaves? Is he not coming out?

[Francis3]

Fizer is not 6'7. I think he is like 6'9.

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[haven]

Yay! This thread gives me the perfect excuse to ask a question that's been bothering me.

Why is Temple predicted to beat Duke by most analysts? Granted Duke is young, but they have far more talent, and in my mind, a better coach. They even have the weapons to beat Temple's zone. Pepe Sanchez is a good player, but I wouldn't even say he's as good as Carrawell or Jason Williams.

Duke played better in the regular season... and has more talent... why would Temple win this game?

When I pick my brackets, I call occasional upsets... but to say that Temple is the favorite against Duke, seams a little much to me.

[sir scarvajal]

Vlade Divac, Rony Seikely (sp.), David Robinson, Erik Dampier & Ric Smits are all soft like baby bottoms too, but they all are nice to have on your team. Soft 7 footers with Joe Blow athleticism (versus pathetic athleticism like most of them) get big pay checks and are in high demand by NBA teams. Mihm will be no different, and we would be lucky to have him on our team.

[sir scarvajal]

What this list also shows is how much better pick it is if we make sure a 6 or 7 pick. Then we are talking picking a D. Johnson, or a Swift or a Woods or a Martin or Fizer or T. Morris. If it is a 11 or 12 pick then we can just hope somebody slips through (but then you wonder why they slipped) or take your chances of a decent but less athletically gifted player (Morris Peterson, Thomas or Murphy).

We cannot afford to have a sustained winning streak now. In fact 500 ball form here on out might lose as 3 slots as well, too much is at stake, we need the Ls. We need to get more guns for next year and years to come, this is our best chance for a great pick in years. (Wow, I never thought I would use an expression the NRA would love)

[Groogrux]

Thank you sir scarvajal.

It would be one thing if Mihm was only projected by a few scouts and "experts" as one of the best in the NCAA. However, it is unanimous. The only criticism of Mihm, outside of those who believe one more year of college would really help him, has come from a few on this board.

What are y'all doing right now? Are y'all preparing to watch 16 games a day on Thursday and Friday because you want to, or because it's your job?

Because those whose job it is to watch these college players all believe that Mihm will be a top pick in the NBA draft.

I'm still convinced that you haven't watched him play. The guy has had a double double in nearly 75% of his games EVER. When you're always doubled, sometimes tripled or even quadruple teamed, and you still put up those numbers, you are not soft. Add to that fact that he's only had one year (when Axtell was here) that the Horns have had a legitimate outside threat, that number is even more impressive. He is a very athletic and talented center.

And the select few in here are the only ones blind to that fact.

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[SooneRockStro]

I think I did a better job than this fishhack and that's not saying much considering how poorly I put mine together. Atleast I didn't forget Redd and Penn and Cleaves for that matter. This guy knows nothing.

[DaDakota]

PEOPLE,

Sam Bowie was selected ahead of MJ. Think about that....people will be making the same mistake with Mihm.

I have watched him get HUMILIATED by anyone with an attitude that UT plays. Mihm may be a decent player, but do not count on him to be anymore then a decent role player.

I would take him over Cato though, because Mihm can at least score.

DaDakota

[heypartner]

RF34,

DeMarr Johnson = Rice?

I'll imagine a "skinny Rice" when he pulls Cincy together in this period of turmoil and wins the damn tourny in Rice fashion.

Until then, he's a skinny college shooter.


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[Moe]

Sam Bowie's career was curtailed by chronic injuries, not a lack of talent. There was not a lot made of the fact that he was selected ahead of Jordan at that time. It was certainly a reasonable pick, considering Portland had taken Clyde the year before. Unless you know for a fact that a guy will suffer chronic injuries that will severely hamper his career, it makes no sense to compare them.

[grummett]

By Sam Smith from conversations with a few NBA execs. http://chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/smith/ I know it's early. My only comment, for now, is Fizer at 7? Hmm.

[Clutch]

Terence Morris at #13?
Quentin Richardson at #18?
Chris Porter at #29?

Very interesting. Doesn't look like Morris is coming out though...

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[Sherlock]

The Sam Bowie selection over Jordan is a good example of why it is always best to go with "the best athlete available," rather than pick according to need. If someone develops, you can then trade them for what you need.

This year, the problem is that there just aren't any great centers. So anyone who needs one, will pick Mihm, who is probably the best of the lot.

That's beneficial for us, since our needs center around the best athletes available in this draft, and where it's deepest. Since a couple of the teams will probably pick centers in the first few picks, a couple guys will hopefully slip to us.

[Drag-On 88]

Haven,

i've been wonderin' the same thing... i don't see Temple beating Duke... The Blue Devils got way more talent and like you said, they can beat that Temple zone.

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[rocketsfan34]

DerMarr= Extremely skinny Glen Rice WITH defense. Until he bulks up, man will he get bounced around in the NBA. The guy look like a toothpick. LOL. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[Da Man]

Well, you need to give temple more credit. This is a team that stayed with the Juggernaut Duke team last year in the tournament. Minus Trajan Langdon and Elton Brand, they would have won that game last year. This year, Duke doesn't have Trajan Langdon and Elton Brand. Temple has a pair of monsters down low in Kevin Lyde and Lamont Barnes. Duke's biggest weakness is probably in the interior. Pepe Sanchez is a perfect fit for their grind-it-out tempo. And they have a lot of guys that can fill it up. They've got the right combination in order to make a deep tournament run. They may not be as talented man for man as Duke. But they've got an experienced team that has been together for a while and are arguably the playing better than any team in the country right now. And you add in the fact that Duke is relying big time on freshmen. It is perfectly plausible that Temple will come out on top. I'll probably pull for Temple on behalf of John Chaney.

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[lived]

I'm a newbie, so here goes! ....
So with all this talk, can anyone come up with a possible top 10 list?


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[Joe Joe]

A very deep draft if everyone comes out.

I am not a Penn fan, but think he will be mid to late 1st rd.

Barkley and Porter would be gems in the mid to late 1st rd where I think they will go. Look for the rockets to get a second pick in the draft through a trade since there will be skilled players late.



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[Lewie221]

my only comment on that is where the hell is michigan state man mateen cleaves? if he leads his team to a championship, which he very may, he will go at least in the first round!

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[Axeman]

I hope the Rockets can get their hands on Fizer. I really think he's the best player in this year's class HANDS DOWN.

I think it's pretty obvious we've got the backcourt fairly shored up - between Francis, Mobley, and Anderson, we're looking alright there. We could use a better 3-point swingman right now, but that's another story. What we need to do is look at getting a low-post scorer again. Hakeem is gone after next year. We can't sign Duncan (unfortunately) and Cato will never have the offensive skills we need. Thomas is good but I think it's a stretch to put him at 20 points a game in the NBA anytime in the near future. But Fizer can flat out PLAY -- one coach said on the Jim Rome show that he thinks Fizer is the best player in the country right now ( no... He wasn't the coach of Iowa State <grin>).

With Francis at the point and Fizer giving us a low post scoring threat again, I really think the Rockets rebuilding process will be on the right track.

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[HOOP-T]

Mihm is a good player, big, semi-athletic, with a nice touch. He can play with power too when needed. He's only a sophomore!!

We tend to forget that when he is placed in an NBA training program, he very well could flourish. He is definitely coachable.

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Hey Shaq, Acme called, and they want their bricks back!

[aelliott]

Mihm is a good player, big, semi-athletic, with a nice touch. He can play with power too when needed. He's only a sophomore!!

Actually, Mihm is a junior.


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