Palin Reads Cheat Notes Off Her Hand

[gifford1967]

Okay, it's not just that Palin was using cheat notes during her interview-

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It's what she felt was too complex to remember without a cheat sheet-

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4337216594_f654772641_o.jpg

I wonder how President Palin would do during question time with the Democratic caucus?

[DonnyMost]

this is taking face palm to a whole new level.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff161/JakeLloydSLT/palmface.jpg

[DcProWLer277]

She...she's...just so stupid.

[MojoMan]

That's a big step up from Obama's level of dependency on using the TOTUS, any way you want to look at it.

Even a child gets the training wheels taken off of their bicycle once they learn how to ride it without them. When is President Obama going to be ready to be weaned from using the TOTUS, except for major speeches such as the State of the Union Address?

Obama is over 25% of the way through his term of office. The clock is ticking.

[glynch]

That's a big step up from Obama's level of dependency on using the TOTUS, any way you want to look at it.

Even a child gets the training wheels taken off of their bicycle once they learn how to ride it without them. When is President Obama going to be ready to be weaned from using the TOTUS, except for major speeches such as the State of the Union Address?

Obama is over 25% of the way through his term of office. The clock is ticking.

Moronic and dishonest.

[mc mark]

The best and brightest the republican party has to offer...

[dumbartonbass]

That's a big step up from Obama's level of dependency on using the TOTUS, any way you want to look at it.

Even a child gets the training wheels taken off of their bicycle once they learn how to ride it without them. When is President Obama going to be ready to be weaned from using the TOTUS, except for major speeches such as the State of the Union Address?

Obama is over 25% of the way through his term of office. The clock is ticking.

Oh man, I LOL'D. Whatever happened to old fashioned memorization?!

[FranchiseBlade]

That's a big step up from Obama's level of dependency on using the TOTUS, any way you want to look at it.

Even a child gets the training wheels taken off of their bicycle once they learn how to ride it without them. When is President Obama going to be ready to be weaned from using the TOTUS, except for major speeches such as the State of the Union Address?

Obama is over 25% of the way through his term of office. The clock is ticking.
I guess you missed the WHOLE QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION he had with Republicans that didn't have a teleprompter at all. Sorry but the TOTUS gag just doesn't hold water anymore.

You'll have to come up with something else unoriginal and perhaps less substantial to try and lambaste Obama with.

The funny thing is that after being caught writing cheat notes on her hand, she mentioned Obama's use of the teleprompter in her speach. I wonder how Palin does extemporaneously, since she has problems even delivering written speeches.

Of course the teleprompter attack was stupid from the beginning. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using a teleprompter, and Obama has shown that he handles himself quite well without one.

I also like the style of mojoman in this post. He can't defend Palin, so he tries a futile attempt to label Obama as being just as bad.

[B-Bob]

I don't know glynch, Mojo may have a point... but that point would have to be: Katie Couric is more tenacious than the entire GOP Congressional caucus. I mean, what would you rather answer: "So my question is, why not start freezing spending now? And would you support a line-item veto and helping us get a vote on it in the House?"
...
or
...
"Talk about your view of the bail-out." (just to bring it back to the actual thread topic.)

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[BetterThanEver]

Obama and Biden do the same thing.

http://www.dembot.net/images/facepalm/double_presidential_facepalm.jpg

[B-Bob]

Oh, and 20th century speech notes device > paleolithic speech notes device.

Except for Tah and Sah, who will probably vote for her more fervently now.

[MojoMan]

I also like the style of mojoman in this post. He can't defend Palin, so he tries a futile attempt to label Obama as being just as bad.

What is there to defend? She wrote a couple of notes on her hand.

Big whoop.

[Faos]

Palin, Colin Powell, Lou Holtz and others are speaking at Toyota Center Monday for some type of motivational deal.

[B-Bob]

Well, I don't know about Powell and Lou Holtz, but if nothing else, Palin is definitely motivational. I had never donated money to a political campaign until halfway through her nomination speech at the GOP convention.

[mc mark]

What is there to defend? She wrote a couple of notes on her hand.

Big whoop.


she can't remember "energy" and "tax cuts"?

[KingCheetah]

It's what she felt was too complex to remember without a cheat sheet-

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4337216594_f654772641_o.jpg

What's hilarious is that she had to scratch out budget and replace it with tax -- 'what was I going to talk about... oh yeah TAX cuts... you betcha.'

[Shooter3]

That's a big step up from Obama's level of dependency on using the TOTUS, any way you want to look at it.

Even a child gets the training wheels taken off of their bicycle once they learn how to ride it without them. When is President Obama going to be ready to be weaned from using the TOTUS, except for major speeches such as the State of the Union Address?

Obama is over 25% of the way through his term of office. The clock is ticking.
I find it hilarious that Republicans fell in love with Palin after she gave a speech that she clearly did not write, yet when Obama gives a great speech they just claim that he only sounds good when using a teleprompter. Palin was announced as McCain's running mate on August 29th. On September 3rd she gave a speech that she obviously did not write herself, however that did not prevent Republicans from immediately falling head over heels in love with her. Palin can give a decent speech when using a teleprompter, yet she sure as hell hasn't prove that she can respond to even basic policy questions with clear, intelligent answers to back to her views.
Here's Obama's responses to some difficult questions from the GOP.

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Here's Palin's response to a basic question on the bailout.
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When Katie Couric asks Palin simple questions that she can't answer with any clarity at all Republicans complain that they were 'gotcha questions'. Yet Obama actually was asked many 'gotcha questions' from the House GOP he he responded with clarity and with facts to back up his assertions and he showed how the Republican talking points are inaccurate. Could you imagine seeing Palin take questions from the House Democrats for over an hour? That would be hilarious. All she'd have to say is 'tax cut' and 'drill baby drill' and 'keep the government out of...' God that would be great television.

[Shooter3]

^ wrong clip above. here's palin's response to Couric's bailout question.

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[FranchiseBlade]

What is there to defend? She wrote a couple of notes on her hand.

Big whoop.
I don't know what there is to defend. You were the one who seemed threatened enough by the revelation to try a failed attempt to make Obama seem as bad.

[MojoMan]

I don't know what there is to defend. You were the one who seemed threatened enough by the revelation to try a failed attempt to make Obama seem as bad.

I was just drawing attention to the double standard. Again.

Is it unfair to expect President Obama to be able to perform at a standard that is at least as high as what you guys expect Sarah Palin to perform at? Or not?

[pgabriel]

I was just drawing attention to the double standard. Again.

Is it unfair to expect President Obama to be able to perform at a standard that is at least as high as what you guys expect Sarah Palin to perform at? Or not?

We don't put palin in the same league as obama and for the life of me I don't understand why anyone does

[pgabriel]

Palin, Colin Powell, Lou Holtz and others are speaking at Toyota Center Monday for some type of motivational deal.


I put this in the tea party convention thread, it only costs 20 bucks for a whole office

[Shooter3]

I was just drawing attention to the double standard. Again.

Is it unfair to expect President Obama to be able to perform at a standard that is at least as high as what you guys expect Sarah Palin to perform at? Or not?
yes it is an obama has seen numerous times that speak just fine without a teleprompter. He performed well in all the Democratic primary debates. There were over 20 debates. He did very well in his debates with McCain.' He took tough questions from Republicans for over an hour, and afterwards Republicans staffers told the media that it was a mistake to allow the Q&A to be televised. Palin sounded like a total intellectual lightweight whenever she was asked even basic policy questions. She didn't even sound too hot when "interviewed" by the likes of Sean Hannity. She barely managed to get through her debate with Biden by winking at the camera, using cheesy lines such as "say it ain't so Joe", doing her best to avoid answers the questions, and throwing out the usual GOP talking points.

[BetterThanEver]

What's hilarious is that she had to scratch out budget and replace it with tax -- 'what was I going to talk about... oh yeah TAX cuts... you betcha.'

That's even worse. LOL.

Forget about the budget. Increase Spending. Cut Taxes. That's a sure fire way to increase the deficit even more than Obama.

[Codman]

Palin continually teabags herself in front of everyone. Give it up already.


You wrote your book, made your money and got some air time. It's a wrap.

[saitou]

Who cares. This type of nitpicking feeds Palin and her supporters' persecution complex. The prospect of Palin ever becoming commander in chief of the world's most powerful army scares the **** out of me, but it's not because she scribbles notes on her hand.

[Dubious]

What pisses me off about Palin is that people accept that this is a significant level of political discourse. That some simpleton can be paraded around as an alternative to the sober consideration of learned, concerned people with academic credentials and actual public service. And that it is being done by the moneyed class to reign in populism; making fools of the average American like they are the butt of a retard joke.

[vlaurelio]

Who cares. This type of nitpicking feeds Palin and her supporters' persecution complex. The prospect of Palin ever becoming commander in chief of the world's most powerful army scares the **** out of me, but it's not because she scribbles notes on her hand.

Can you remember the words "energy" and "tax"? If not then you're an idiot. Do you want an idiot to be the POTUS?

[FlyerFanatic]

can someone remind me, what is palins educational background? am i mistaken she went to like 4 different universities to get a communications degree? :confused:

[FranchiseBlade]

I was just drawing attention to the double standard. Again.

Is it unfair to expect President Obama to be able to perform at a standard that is at least as high as what you guys expect Sarah Palin to perform at? Or not?
What double standard? If you are saying that we expect Palin to be able to answer questions without notes but don't expect the same out of Obama, the question and answer with the GOP that people have posted videos of show that isn't the case.

So if that's the supposed double standard you speak of, it doesn't even make any sense. If you meant something else, then feel free to clarify your remark.

[jo mama]

What double standard? If you are saying that we expect Palin to be able to answer questions without notes but don't expect the same out of Obama

it looks like 'mojoman' is trying to equate palin having to write bullet points on her hand in order to answer pre-screened questions to obama reading a speech off a teleprompter. as if answering questions in an 'off-the-cuff' interview is the same thing as reading a pre-written speech.

what kind of 7th grade b.s. was that? its just a new level of patheticness from this person. it would seem like a wealthy celebrity like palin has the money to buy some kind of special glasses that project or 'telepromt', if you will, her notes to her from inside the lenses. she certainly has the money for something like that.

and did bush not use a teleprompter too?

and palin - if you want the media to not talk about your kids how about not accepting $100k to have them photographed for the cover of insight (tabloid) magazine? cant have it both ways...

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/sarah_easy_payout_SMfqvoGHYTM3ntx3fV6K7K
Palin gets 100G for mag cover

[Mr.Scarface]

Palin, Colin Powell, Lou Holtz and others are speaking at Toyota Center Monday for some type of motivational deal.

That is part of a sales pitch to buy financial software and some other stuff. They want your credit card.

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

Well, I don't know about Powell and Lou Holtz, but if nothing else, Palin is definitely motivational. I had never donated money to a political campaign until halfway through her nomination speech at the GOP convention.

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/blog/images/star-wars-anonymous-rebel-pilot-sees-what-u-did-there.jpg

[Rashmon]

I found a rare photo of Palin during a junior college exam.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2044/2348649752_bc5653ae6d.jpg

[rhino17]

Who cares?

[Rashmon]

Who cares?

People who vote?

[pppbigppp]

http://double-chinned.mirror.waffleimages.com/data/95/95e51ab4a4b1627f8f06c9e925c772c54845b895.jpg

wat

[mc mark]

Who cares?

The media

If the media would stop talking about her she would disappear

[MojoMan]

The media

If the media would stop talking about her she would disappear

Say it.

Oh, please, say it. Say that Sarah Palin is irrelevant so I can post that Inigo Montoya placard again.

Pretty please?

[basso]

she so cute- my best friend's wife wants to sex her...

http://chicksontheright.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/urinal-teleprompter.jpg

[mc mark]

Say it.

Oh, please, say it. Say that Sarah Palin is irrelevant so I can post that Inigo Montoya placard again.

Pretty please?


That you believe Sarah is the savior of your party says all we need to know about the health of the GOP.

[MojoMan]

she so cute- my best friend's wife wants to sex her...

http://chicksontheright.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/urinal-teleprompter.jpg

That's hilarious! Must spread rep...

[DonnyMost]

Say it.

Oh, please, say it. Say that Sarah Palin is irrelevant so I can post that Inigo Montoya placard again.

Pretty please?

I wouldn't trumpet so loudly, or be so brazenly prideful of the fact that the face of your political movement isn't "irrelevant", but instead a laughing stock.

Talk about a hollow victory.

"Yes! Sarah Palin's still relevant! It's obvious she is because everyone keeps pointing out how stupid and unqualified she is! W00T!!!1"

[sammy]

That's hilarious! Must spread rep...

I can't wait until Obama is reelected. You're going to feel awfully stupid that day.

[MojoMan]

I can't wait until Obama is reelected. You're going to feel awfully stupid that day.

The only way that Obama gets reelected is if he shifts his agenda substantially to the right, just like Bill Clinton did.

Otherwise, Obama is very likely one and done.

[DonnyMost]

she so cute- my best friend's wife wants to sex her...

http://chicksontheright.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/urinal-teleprompter.jpg

That is about as funny as a Gary Larson cartoon.

And Gary Larson comics have the personality of a wet dish cloth.

[ChrisBosh]

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/8/y/2/Palin-Idiots-Guide.jpg

[FranchiseBlade]

That is about as funny as a Gary Larson cartoon.

And Gary Larson comics have the personality of a wet dish cloth.
Well the comic strip just doesn't make any sense. It never did, but especially after Obama fielded questions so deftly from the GOP, that criticism(which was always stupid) doesn't even make sense now.

[Dan B.]

The <s>only</s> most likely way that Obama gets reelected is if <s>he shifts his agenda substantially to the right</s> Palin fractures the party in two, just like <s>Bill Clinton</s> Ross Perot did.

Otherwise, Obama is very likely one and done.

Fixed

[Shooter3]

The only way that Obama gets reelected is if he shifts his agenda substantially to the right, just like Bill Clinton did.

Otherwise, Obama is very likely one and done.
Who's going to beat him? Palin? Romney? I would worried but it doesnt look like the gop has even one really good candidate.

[vlaurelio]

she so cute- my best friend's wife wants to sex her...

http://chicksontheright.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/urinal-teleprompter.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6325/6a00d83451c45669e20120a.jpg

[Bojangles]

Holy Christ, she is borderline retarded. Why is she getting so much national publicity?

[rhino17]

People who vote?
Why should this matter to anyone voting?

[MojoMan]

Holy Christ, she is borderline retarded. Why is she getting so much national publicity?

Because of the pathological hatred that so many people on the left apparently have for her. If it were not for that, the attention that she is getting would be at least an order of magnitude less than what it currently is.

And the reason that she is so deeply hated by so many on the left is that she apparently represents some sort of a fundamental threat to you guys.

[pouhe]

Say it.

Oh, please, say it. Say that Sarah Palin is irrelevant so I can post that Inigo Montoya placard again.

Pretty please?

Posters with search capabilities might want to do a little cross referencing here.

[pouhe]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6325/6a00d83451c45669e20120a.jpg

Sorry Vice President Quayle, you might have misplaced a letter there.

[Batman Jones]

And the reason that she is so deeply hated by so many on the left is that she apparently represents some sort of a fundamental threat to you guys.

Yeah, just like Dan Quayle did.

[vlaurelio]

Sorry Vice President Quayle, you might have misplaced a letter there.

you got it +1

[Deckard]

That is about as funny as a Gary Larson cartoon.

And Gary Larson comics have the personality of a wet dish cloth.

With all due respect, have you lost your freakin' mind? Gary Larson is a brilliant cartoonist.


For Sishir:

https://mywebspace.wisc.edu/erdmann/web/pics/FarSide.gif

For Max:

http://www.feco.info/local/cache-vignettes/L409xH500/00007130-62874.jpg


For you:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/Far%20Side%203.jpg

[mateo]

Amusing Sarah Palin story but not as good as her starting Retard-Gate by asking for the heads of Rahm, Rush, and one of Rick Perry's closest advisors.

Oh wait, she only asked for Rahm's head on a platter for using the "R-Word"

And some of you guys say she doesnt use Trig as a political tool. Shame on her.

[Batman Jones]

Amusing Sarah Palin story but not as good as her starting Retard-Gate by asking for the heads of Rahm, Rush, and one of Rick Perry's closest advisors.

Oh wait, she only asked for Rahm's head on a platter for using the "R-Word"

And some of you guys say she doesnt use Trig as a political tool. Shame on her.

I honestly can't think of any act so transparently hypocritical as Palin's "retard" double standard. What a fraud.

[Al Calavicci]

holy **** this is funny

[Dan B.]

Shamelessly lifted:

“Found written on palin’s elbow: ‘not ass’.”

[Space Ghost]

Holy Christ, she is borderline retarded. Why is she getting so much national publicity?

Some quick searching on the forums with Threads titled "Palin".

Top Thread Creaters
Basso - 18
Carl Herrera - 16
DaDakota - 9
Sam Fisher - 5

85 out of the 153 threads are created by well known liberals.
31 out of the 153 threads are created by well known conservatives.
The remainder 37 are created by infrequent D&D posters, but judging from many of their remarks, they were not very palin friendly.

So why is she getting so much attention?

[Batman Jones]

So why is she getting so much attention?

Easy. Because she is the most entertaining figure in politics today.

[Dan B.]

So why is she getting so much attention?

I'm gonna go with "because she is a media hog and attention whore who shills products at a rate to shame Billy Mays."

When you are a TV star you can't claim you want anonymity.

[basso]

seems about as opportune a time as any...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VlmHNP9So5Y/ScGXPQyUrWI/AAAAAAAABEQ/ssBd9SZ_OtY/s400/Obama_TeleprompterDoll.jpg

http://www.countrysurvival.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/obama-teleprompter.gif

[BetterThanI]

seems about as opportune a time as any...
You fail.

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Where are the teleprompters, hmmm?

[dumbartonbass]

I really don't get this teleprompter criticism. Does it somehow imply that Obama is not intelligent? The man was only editor of the Harvard Law Review and taught at the University of Chicago prior to entering politics. Sarah Palin went to three small universities before getting a bachelor's in journalism.

It's just so frustrating how a certain portion of the electorate not only wallow in their ignorance, but revel in it. Maybe that's why I don't post in this forum so much anymore.

[FranchiseBlade]

I really don't get this teleprompter criticism. Does it somehow imply that Obama is not intelligent? The man was only editor of the Harvard Law Review and taught at the University of Chicago prior to entering politics. Sarah Palin went to three small universities before getting a bachelor's in journalism.

It's just so frustrating how a certain portion of the electorate not only wallow in their ignorance, but revel in it. Maybe that's why I don't post in this forum so much anymore.
You are correct it's a stupid thing to make fun of. Every president since they've been around uses them. Every news person uses them, almost everyone who's public speaking uses one these days.

But even if somehow it meant Obama was flawed because he does use the teleprompter he's show on numerous occasions that he does quite well without one. Most recently he proved that he does better without one than Republicans did with prepared remarks.

The fact that basso keeps trying to pretend like it didn't happen testifies to his willful ignorance and is funny to watch.

Please keep the teleprompter jokes coming basso.

[BenignDMD]

God damn she is a ****ing moron

[Deckard]

I really don't get this teleprompter criticism. Does it somehow imply that Obama is not intelligent? The man was only editor of the Harvard Law Review and taught at the University of Chicago prior to entering politics. Sarah Palin went to three small universities before getting a bachelor's in journalism.

It's just so frustrating how a certain portion of the electorate not only wallow in their ignorance, but revel in it. Maybe that's why I don't post in this forum so much anymore.
You make an excellent point, but what is the most galling is the fact that the President, invited by Congressional Republicans to their own retreat, spent well over an hour making them look like idiots without a teleprompter. I watched the entire thing live and it is disgustingly dishonest for Republicans to spew this "teleprompter" crap while trying as hard as they can to ignore a masterful performance by Mr. Obama, sans teleprompter, just a few days ago.

Dishonesty writ large!




God damn she is a ****ing moron

Now, now... we should be more polite. She's merely a freakin' idiot.

[RedRedemption]

That's a big step up from Obama's level of dependency on using the TOTUS, any way you want to look at it.

Even a child gets the training wheels taken off of their bicycle once they learn how to ride it without them. When is President Obama going to be ready to be weaned from using the TOTUS, except for major speeches such as the State of the Union Address?

Obama is over 25% of the way through his term of office. The clock is ticking.

That 25% is disputable. ;)

[MojoMan]

God damn she is a ****ing moron

p.d.s.

[FranchiseBlade]

p.d.s.
The derangement comes when people try to pretend like she isn't an idiot or competent.

Also you seem to misunderstand the left's fascination with her. It isn't that they think she's relevant or irrelevant.

It boils down to this. She is grossly incompetent. She isn't fit to lead, and knows very little of what she talks about most of the time. She's blatantly dishonest, uninformed, and ignorant. Yet a significant part of people who lean right seem to follow her, and she has no idea how unqualified she is.

Therefor it is a lot of fun to watch her make a fool of herself and laugh at her. We hope she sticks around, because it's hilarious to watch a real life Inspector Clouseau at work.

The only derangement comes from folks on the right who somehow think the left hates her, fears her, or that she's qualified to lead or even has the foggiest notion what she's talking about.

Her ideas and rhetoric are so non-sensical that she doesn't warrant anyone's hate. It's just fun that she puts herself out in public, and she's so clueless. So it's fun to have laugh.

[sammy]

You fail

Exactly. That's what a hater would do.

Bringing up Obama in this conversation is ridiculous. One went to prestigious universities and one is a mumbling idiot.

At least dubya went to a good school and graduated with a gpa of 2.0 :rolleyes:

[MojoMan]

I really don't get this teleprompter criticism. Does it somehow imply that Obama is not intelligent? The man was only editor of the Harvard Law Review and taught at the University of Chicago prior to entering politics. Sarah Palin went to three small universities before getting a bachelor's in journalism.

Mr. Obama received an excellent education. His university credentials are impeccable. But there is a difference between book learning and common sense, or better yet, wisdom. He has the book learning, but is lacking in common sense, and appears to be devoid of any true wisdom. For proof, just look at his first year in office. Those on the left appear to be very disappointed by his lack of progress and commitment to achieving his campaign pledges. Those who opposed him on the right regard him as just what we thought he would be - an empty suit. And aside from the Q&A event with Congressional Republicans, he continues to be dependent on the teleprompter to a degree that is not only unprecedented, it is really pretty astonishing. He presented himself as some sort of messianic figure on the campaign trail. So far, he has been anything but.

Normally, someone would put heavy emphasis on their university education for their first one or two jobs, and then that person's record accomplishments is what would recommend them for advancement to positions of higher responsibility and executive level roles. As we can see by the constant emphasis on Obama's education, he really does not have any appreciable accomplishments to recommend him to his current role, aside for running for office, and writing his memoirs (twice). Just his empty campaign rhetoric and his teleprompter-driven messianic orations during the last election cycle. And you guys actually believed all of that. What a bunch of suckers.

Obama parses his words like a lawyer. But in answer to a given question, he offers substantially different answers to different audiences, depending on the preferences of that audience. The beauty of the Q&A with Republicans is that he had to address a cross-section of different audiences, all at the same time. Obama was very brave to stand up in front of the Congressional Republicans without a teleprompter the way he did. I will give him credit for that. But his duplicity was on display for all to see during that exchange, even though a large group of Kool-Aid drinkers on the left somehow seem not to have noticed.

I would like to see those meetings happen 3-4 times a year so that we can continue to see him be himself, without the filter of the teleprompter, more often. The meeting with Republicans was just one single time that he did that.

Are you aware that President Obama has not held a press conference since July? Working without a teleprompter is not Obama's regular habit by any means.

In fact, the MSM community was so amazed by the historic nature of the Q&A session with Republicans that they really did not spend a lot of time on fact checking the President's answers to the Republican's questions. Going forward, that type of scrutiny can only be expected to increase. Obama off-the-cuff in that kind of setting is a never ending fountain of prevarications and equivocations. In fact, I suspect that Obama's handlers may not be in any kind of a hurry to allow for an exchange like that one again any time soon. I know you guys were fired up by seeing Mr. Spock show a little emotion for once. But going forward, these meetings are going to be more about the answers to the questions. You just watch and see.

[mc mark]

In fact, I suspect that Obama's handlers may not be in any kind of a hurry to allow for an exchange like that one again any time soon.


ahem --

Obama invites GOP leaders to present own health care ideas (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100208/ap_on_bi_ge/us_obama_health_care)

[pgabriel]

oh here we go, he doesn't have common sense. people thought GWB had common sense, that worked really well.

anyway, does sarah have an policy ideas?

[MojoMan]

ahem --

Obama invites GOP leaders to present own health care ideas (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100208/ap_on_bi_ge/us_obama_health_care)

As we have seen recently in the election in Massachusetts, the people do not want the Democrats leftist health care agenda to be passed. And it is not going to be.

This proposed event is just a politically-driven stunt by Barack Obama. The Republicans have already been presenting their ideas in Congress, but due to the large Democratic majorities, they are not given serious consideration. Congress is the right venue for this. Anything that actually happens for real will happen in Congress. If the Democrats are serious about working with Republicans on health care, let them do it in Congress, where the results matter.

As an aside, I thought Obama was now going to focus on the economy like a laser beam.

Apparently not.

[mc mark]

Thank you for proving to the board that you have no intention of ever being anything but a shill troll.

You asked for the face to face, got it and it's still not good enough.

[MojoMan]

Thank you for proving to the board that you have no intention of ever being anything but a shill troll.

You asked for the face to face, got it and it's still not good enough.

http://www.samizdata.net/blog/~pdeh/democrats-crybaby.jpg

If everyone wants to get together to make a presentation of their ideas at a joint meeting, that is fine, but this exercise should not be expected to amount to much. Everyone has been presenting their ideas for a long time. All of this information is known and in the public record. The problem is not that the ideas are not known, but that the Democrats have been focused on ramming through an agenda that the American people do not want.

There is room for compromise, but it is centered around a substantially scaled down program that is truly focused first and foremost on reducing costs, for consumers, for state governments and for the federal government. And you are not going to be able to assume that these costs will just be taken out of the health care insurers and providers profits without being passed on to consumers. It just does not work that way.

By all means, let's have this dog and pony show, as long as it is not formatted in a way that favors Democrats, at the expense of Republicans. I think this exercise will probably be a waste of time, and that this is just a politically driven stunt by Barack Obama. The real work on this issue must be done in Congress, as the Constitution requires.

[Rocketman95]

"Govenor Palin, what is the difference between your mouth and your vagina?"

[MojoMan]

"Govenor Palin, what is the difference between your mouth and your vagina?"

p.d.s.

[Rocketman95]

p.d.s.

pimpin down's syndrome.

[DonnyMost]

Thank you for proving to the board that you have no intention of ever being anything but a shill troll.

You asked for the face to face, got it and it's still not good enough.

Quoted for emphasis.

[mc mark]

[IMG]

By all means, let's have this dog and pony show, as long as it is not formatted in a way that favors Democrats, at the expense of Republicans.


What? You mean like the entire Republican caucus (at their retreat) against Obama?

*snicker*

[MojoMan]

pimpin down's syndrome.

no.

Palin Derangement Syndrome (PDS)

[mc mark]

BTW Jorge your little jpeg is soooo 2002. Time to get some new shtick

[MojoMan]

BTW Jorge your little jpeg is soooo 2002. Time to get some new shtick

Either that, or it is time for you to stop having temper tantrums and calling names whenever you encounter a perspective that contradicts your own.

[Depressio]

What? You mean like the entire Republican caucus (at their retreat) against Obama?

*snicker*
It's funny because he and basso ignore it like it never happened. A bad dream, if you will.

No no, Obama never confronted Republicans directly in their own caucus and out-witted them. Never happened. He always needs a teleprompter. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, facts or not!

[mc mark]

Either that, or it is time for you to stop having temper tantrums and calling names whenever you encounter a perspective that contradicts your own.

au contraire mon ami

I am in a fine mood this morning and in good form

[conquistador#11]

Reading from teleprompters is one thing, from the hand...that's SAVED BY THE BELL stuff. Inexcusable for a grown up, at least try writing at the bottom of the shoes. :mad:

[pgabriel]

It's funny because he and basso ignore it like it never happened. A bad dream, if you will.

No no, Obama never confronted Republicans directly in their own caucus and out-witted them. Never happened. He always needs a teleprompter. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, facts or not!

no its wierder than that, I hadn't heard the teleprompter "criticism" for months until he did that meeting.

[SamFisher]

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[basso]

It's funny because he and basso ignore it like it never happened. A bad dream, if you will.

No no, Obama never confronted Republicans directly in their own caucus and out-witted them. Never happened. He always needs a teleprompter. That's my story and I'm sticking to it, facts or not!

the facts speak for themselves.

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btw, if they were so "outwitted" why have the republicans petitioned to make "question time" a regular event, and why has the admin rebuffed them?

[mc mark]

the facts speak for themselves.



you wouldn't know a fact if it bitch slapped you

[justtxyank]

I can't wait for Palin to run in a primary. Delicious.

[basso]

some recently unearthed pics from Obama's swing through NE last week:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BLtuyBP9bvM/S29JeO3nXuI/AAAAAAAAAeM/yBxRwqPsg2Y/s1600/4338872692_bb97585f0c_o.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BLtuyBP9bvM/S29JjUnxecI/AAAAAAAAAeU/tytVd4jDquI/s1600/4338872726_530c6a4172_o.jpg

[rhino17]

She can't be that stupid. How many people have ever become as rich and famous as she has in a year while having very few if any tangible accomplishments? Think what you want about her politically but she has made herself significantly better off doing what she is doing.

[Depressio]

the facts speak for themselves.
Okay, so you found video of him using a teleprompter at the Republican caucus? No? I thought it was pretty clear I was talking about the Republican caucus, which you still have appeared to not recognize as missing a teleprompter and admitting Obama did quite well.

If you can't disprove A, I guess you'll just show B instead. That's fine, it's a common defense tactic.

btw, if they were so "outwitted" why have the republicans petitioned to make "question time" a regular event, and why has the admin rebuffed them?
Perhaps because even though Obama got the better of them, they still think it's a great idea and they got some value out of it anyway? Maybe there are politicians that think there are good ideas out there that might not benefit just them? Or is that too hopeful for the GOP?

[MojoMan]

Sarah Palin, realizing that left wing kooks are following her around, trying to get a peak at anything she may have written on her hand, has a message she wishes to have passed on:

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/himom.jpg

And this is the right reaction. Tweak the libs, and have a good laugh. Very well done.

[SamFisher]

Wow those photoshops are HI larious. Conservative humor is amazing.. I heard O'Keefe turned down "Jackass the Movie"

[basso]

channeling the beatles:

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/Liberty_Jane/hand.jpg

[Batman Jones]

basso:

Is it okay when Rush Limbaugh says "retard?" Palin says yes. What do you say?

[Dave_78]

So the official response to this from the pro-Palin crowd is either:

Stop hatin' on Sara, haters
or
I photoshopped some writing on Obama's hand

Awesome.

[basso]

basso:

Is it okay when Rush Limbaugh says "retard?" Palin says yes. What do you say?

i say no.

EDIT: just so we're clear, i would never know anything Rush says if liberals didn't pass it along.

[Rashmon]

...

You do understand that there is a big difference between a photoshopped image and it really happening, right?

[Depressio]

Stop hatin' on Sara, haters
or
I photoshopped some writing on Obama's hand
The Obama-uses-a-teleprompter argument is pretty good. The comparison of an hour-long speech to the entire country versus the question "what's wrong with America" in some random not-so-televised interview is a valid one.

[basso]

You do understand that there is a big difference between a photoshopped image and it really happening, right?

you do understand you look like a douche when you frame your question thusly, right?

[basso]

The Obama-uses-a-teleprompter argument is pretty good. The comparison of an hour-long speech to the entire country versus the question "what's wrong with America" in some random not-so-televised interview is a valid one.

who is making that comparison? Obama used a teleprompter to address a class of 6th graders. how is writing a couple of key points on your hand any different than speaking from a deck of index cards?

[gifford1967]

The wingtards out in the tubes don't know when to stop. Now they're claiming Palin wrote the notes on her hand for the teabagger convention speech. Like she gave that speech based on hand notes, not her prepared remarks sitting on the lectern in front of her, that she is clearly reading from.

[vlaurelio]

you do understand you look like a douche when you frame your question thusly, right?

plagiarist and liar=douche

[Depressio]

who is making that comparison? Obama used a teleprompter to address a class of 6th graders. how is writing a couple of key points on your hand any different than speaking from a deck of index cards?
I would respond to you if I expected a legitimate response back, perhaps for some discussion back-and-forth, but it's become glaringly obvious you have no desire for any sort of debate and discussion due to your complete lack of response to my response to you earlier: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5086467&postcount=101

If you want to debate, I'll continue and response to what's quoted above, but I'm not just going to talk to a wall. Thanks in advance for your response!

[vlaurelio]

who is making that comparison? Obama used a teleprompter to address a class of 6th graders. how is writing a couple of key points on your hand any different than speaking from a deck of index cards?

was Obama giving a prepared speech when he addressed the 6th graders?

[basso]

I would respond to you if I expected a legitimate response back, perhaps for some discussion back-and-forth, but it's become glaringly obvious you have no desire for any sort of debate and discussion due to your complete lack of response to my response to you earlier: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5086467&postcount=101

If you want to debate, I'll continue and response to what's quoted above, but I'm not just going to talk to a wall. Thanks in advance for your response!

i didn't see anything other than a rhetorical question in the linked post.

[SamFisher]

. how is writing a couple of key points on your hand any different than speaking from a deck of index cards?
Because one makes you look like an idiot, and one makes you look like a grown-up...which one do you think is which?

[Batman Jones]

i say no.

EDIT: just so we're clear, i would never know anything Rush says if liberals didn't pass it along.

What do you think of the fact that Palin has one standard for Rahm and another for Rush? Kind of makes her complaint ring hollow, wouldn't you say?

[gifford1967]

For years I've wondered whether basso is just pretending to be really dumb, or is he actually as cognitively challenged as he appears to be.

I finally figured it out. The answer is- All of the above.

Palmgate is the perfect example of this.

basso pretends to be dumb when he acts like he doesn't understand the difference between referring to written materials when presenting extended remarks, otherwise known as a speech, and writing notes on your hand (or anywhere else) to try and keep three basic points straight when answering questions in an interview format.

basso is actually dumb when he doesn't realize that repeatedly pretending to be dumb is counterproductive in promoting whatever wingnut idea he's currently obsessing over.

[basso]

Because one makes you look like an idiot, and one makes you look like a grown-up...which one do you think is which?

to whom? beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[basso]

What do you think of the fact that Palin has one standard for Rahm and another for Rush? Kind of makes her complaint ring hollow, wouldn't you say?

i'm not sure what the rahm reference is to, but i'm speaking only for myself, and it's a word i've purged from my vocabulary.

[basso]

For years I've wondered whether basso is just pretending to be really dumb, or is he actually as cognitively challenged as he appears to be.

I finally figured it out. The answer is- All of the above.

Palmgate is the perfect example of this.

basso pretends to be dumb when he acts like he doesn't understand the difference between referring to written materials when presenting extended remarks, otherwise known as a speech, and writing notes on your hand (or anywhere else) to try and keep three basic points straight when answering questions in an interview format.

basso is actually dumb when he doesn't realize that repeatedly pretending to be dumb is counterproductive in promoting whatever wingnut idea he's currently obsessing over.

the hand notes were from her speech.

[Batman Jones]

i'm not sure what the rahm reference is to, but i'm speaking only for myself, and it's a word i've purged from my vocabulary.

Rahm used the word and Palin demanded he be fired. Rush used the word and Palin said that was okay.

So the question is basically, how do you feel about your hero being such a blatant hypocrite?

[basso]

Rahm used the word and Palin demanded he be fired. Rush used the word and Palin said that was okay.

So the question is basically, how do you feel about your hero being such a blatant hypocrite?

one is the Chief of Staff, the other a talk radio host. surely you can see the difference.

[Rashmon]

Poor basso. How can I frame this to inspire another hissy fit.

You do understand that your posts in this thread indicate you are really touchy about Palin seeming like a mentally impaired individual needing to write test answers on her hand, right?

[basso]

Poor basso. How can I frame this to inspire another hissy fit.

You do understand that your posts in this thread indicate you are really touchy about Palin seeming like a mentally impaired individual needing to write test answers on her hand, right?

you do understand you've earned yourself a place on my ignore list, right?

[Oski2005]

the hand notes were from her speech.

Why would she need notes when the speech was sitting right in front of her?

[Depressio]

you do understand you've earned yourself a place on my ignore list, right?
But... I thought Rashmon was a Republican?!

[vlaurelio]

the hand notes were from her speech.

wrong


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html
Just to be clear: The notes most likely weren't for her speech, for which she used prepared remarks, but for the Q&A session that followed, during which she glanced at the hand in question.

But in my opinion that's even worse.

There were no specifics on there, just general concepts and things she supports.

The takeaway is that this presidential contender apparently can't remember her supposed core principles and needs a cheat-sheet when simply asked about her beliefs.


Basso, do you need to scribble Obama, devil, Hitler, black, Hussein in your hand. You're not that retarded are you?

[mc mark]

you do understand you've earned yourself a place on my ignore list, right?


Man! Your ignore list must be really long.

[Rashmon]

Man! Your ignore list must be really long.

I feel honored.

[basso]

wrong



Basso, do you need to scribble Obama, devil, Hitler, black, Hussein in your hand. You're not that retarded are you?

"most likey?" in whose opinion? how and why was said opinion formed?

this is absurd, and i thought you were astute enough to appreciate that- why does the thought of a president with a vagina scare you so?

[mc mark]

Mike Lupica said in his column this morning…


It's now official that Palin can fit her entire political philosophy in the palm of her hand.

[vlaurelio]

"most likey?" in whose opinion? how and why was said opinion formed?


do I have to spell it out for you?

PALIN READ HER HANDS DURING THE Q&A PORTION

read the whole article and watch the pictures and videos
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html

http://tweetphoto.com/10644777
she was sitting down when she read this which means the speech is over and Q&A has started.

watch this whole video if you can actually stand it
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Crib Notes? This potential presidential candidate and "movement" leader was using crib notes to answer basic questions?

This would mean:

A) That she knew the questions beforehand and the whole thing was a farce. (Likely.)

and

B) That she still couldn't answer the previously agreed-upon questions without a little extra help.

If true, this is supremely rich coming immediately after a speech in which Palin took a shot at President Obama for using a teleprompter to read his prepared speeches.

You can bet that the President wasn't reading scribbles off his extremities while he sparred with Republicans and Democrats in an unscripted format in his recent Q&As.

Palin, on the other hand, seems to need a cheat-sheet just to get through a contrived lovefest with a smitten interviewer and an adoring audience.

I'm no fan of the Tea Party movement - if it can be called such - but if this is their leader I actually sympathize with them.

the last sentence is for thumbs

[gifford1967]

the hand notes were from her speech.

If Palin wrote notes on her hand for a speech, instead of on a piece paper sitting on the lectern, that would mean she is an even bigger moron than I thought. Apparently, I give her a little more credit than you do.

[pgabriel]

I didn't think this was a big deal until its coming out that she need these notes for her q&a. unbelievable

[basso]

If Palin wrote notes on her hand for a speech, instead of on a piece paper sitting on the lectern, that would mean she is an even bigger moron than I thought. Apparently, I give her a little more credit than you do.

if she's a moron, you obviously have nothing to fear. why then the 7 page thread?

[Batman Jones]

if she's a moron, you obviously have nothing to fear. why then the 7 page thread?

Because morons are ****ing hilarious.

[SunsRocketsfan]

I am no fan of Palin, but what is the big deal? You guys dont know the story behind this. Maybe she was just sitting in the backroom bored and had a pen and just thought to herself "what topics do i want to touch on and just wrote something down".. now if during the interview she looked at her palm and went down the list that would be one thing. But again what is the big deal?

[pgabriel]

no one's worried about palin, the only people who need to worry about her are republican candidates she uses the tea party against. this woman can not run for national office after quitting. she is not a viable candidate

[Depressio]

if she's a moron, you obviously have nothing to fear. why then the 7 page thread?
She is a moron. She's not worthy of any sort of candidacy anywhere. She's become a joke.

But that's why she's to be feared. Her decrepit message of idiocy is believes and followed by way too many ignorant Americans. It's like letting an unqualified teacher teach your kids. You fear the result.

I don't fear Sarah Palin. I fear that she actually has an affect on what people think. Her message is that of stupidity, and in the words of Billy Madison, everyone just gets dumber for having listened to her.

[rhadamanthus]

I hate retarded trolls who ruin otherwise interesting forums. It's really retarded, the things they do.

[Cokebabies]

now if during the interview she looked at her palm and went down the list that would be one thing. But again what is the big deal?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/shjack/YouFail.jpg

[vlaurelio]

if she's a moron, you obviously have nothing to fear. why then the 7 page thread?

why do keep defending the moron?

[basso]

Because morons are ****ing hilarious.

we're laughing at you BJ, not with you.

[mc mark]

She is a moron. She's not worthy of any sort of candidacy anywhere. She's become a joke.



What the hell are you talking about TSchmal? Sarah is the best and brightest the republican party has to offer. She needs to run for president!

[DonnyMost]

we're laughing at you BJ, not with you.

That doesn't even make sense in this context.

God, Palin really does make you stupider, if that was even possible.

[SamFisher]

if she's a moron, you obviously have nothing to fear. why then the 7 page thread?
Because you and your buddy jorge won't let it die:

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[gifford1967]

if she's a moron, you obviously have nothing to fear. why then the 7 page thread?

Again, you and the other palindrones, seem unable to comprehend some basic concepts.

Here's a cheat note for you-
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2466/amus.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/amus.jpg/)

[basso]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100119/capt.9131bc77c7534185bdbf267bb4ab8497.obama__vaab103.jpg

[vlaurelio]

^
|
basso raises the white flag
/end thread

[SunsRocketsfan]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100119/capt.9131bc77c7534185bdbf267bb4ab8497.obama__vaab103.jpg

thanks for finding this pic.. its hilarious he had this setup in a elementary school

[mc mark]

thanks for finding this pic.. its hilarious he had this setup in a elementary school

um..he was talking about NCLB

do you know what that is without google?

[Batman Jones]

we're laughing at you BJ, not with you.

You are such a retard.

[MojoMan]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100119/capt.9131bc77c7534185bdbf267bb4ab8497.obama__vaab103.jpg

How embarrassing.

You would need a whole football stadium full of people face-palming simultaneously to properly cover that one.

Seriously. That is not only embarrassing for him personally, it is also a major embarrassment for our entire country. Someone please tell me that this picture is photo-shopped, and that it did not really happen. Really now.

[moestavern19]

Sarah Palin indirectly tried to make me dumber today.


Her stupid conference almost made me miss my Logic Exam because 59 was backed up to Kingdom come at 9:30 this morning.

[Oski2005]

How embarrassing.

You would need a whole football stadium full of people face-palming simultaneously to properly cover that one.

Seriously. That is not only embarrassing for him personally, it is also a major embarrassment for our entire country. Someone please tell me that this picture is photo-shopped, and that it did not really happen. Really now.

It was a televised speech, was he supposed to just sit casually on the teacher's desk?

[mc mark]

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c8466-23.jpg

[Rocketman95]

It was a televised speech, was he supposed to just sit casually on the teacher's desk?

he left his copy of my pet goat on af1.

[Landlord Landry]

uh, am I missing something here? Obama reads off of a teleprompter?

what is the big deal with reading a teleprompter?

[SunsRocketsfan]

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c8466-23.jpg

wow how can you compare one of the greatest presidents we have had in recent memory with Obama?
Regan was a man of integrity and stood for what he believe in. He garnered respect for America unlike Obama who apologizes everywhere he goes. You may not agree with his politics but at least he had a set of values that he stood behind. With Obama he just goes with whichever way the wind blows.

Also I don't have a issue with Obama using a teleprompter. A lot of public speakers/presidents use it. A great speaker does not translate to a good leader who makes sound decisions. I just thought it was still funny how Obama had that whole crazy setup in a elementary school setting. But I will agree that the whole critistim of him relying on a teleprompter isnt a big deal. Just like how Sarah Palin writing down a few things on her hand isnt a big deal.

[MojoMan]

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/c8466-23.jpg

Making a formal speech dealing with international relations in front of the British Parliament is one thing. Addressing a class of elementry school students is another.

Well, at least it used to be another, until Barack Obama came into office. Now the teleprompter is used for almost every occasion. Of course, as you guys have noted, his Q&A with Republicans was a rare exception. And I sincerely commend him for stepping out and doing that.

For conducting his Q&A with Republicans without a teleprompter, I say:

Well done, President Obama!

[SunsRocketsfan]

uh, am I missing something here? Obama reads off of a teleprompter?

what is the big deal with reading a teleprompter?

i agree here.. and thought also what is the big deal with Palin just witting something on her hand?

[FranchiseBlade]

This was for a speech on NCLB. Nothing wrong with the set up at all.How embarrassing.

You would need a whole football stadium full of people face-palming simultaneously to properly cover that one.

Seriously. That is not only embarrassing for him personally, it is also a major embarrassment for our entire country. Someone please tell me that this picture is photo-shopped, and that it did not really happen. Really now.

[vlaurelio]

Addressing a class of elementry school students


WRONG

[vlaurelio]

i agree here.. and thought also what is the big deal with Palin just witting something on her hand?

what are your core beliefs?

[basso]

Sarah Palin indirectly tried to make me dumber today.


Her stupid conference almost made me miss my Logic Exam because 59 was backed up to Kingdom come at 9:30 this morning.

http://www2.nationalreview.com/dest/2010/02/08/03c1729de4fc133f25cae1d4370026a3.jpg

[mc mark]

Making a formal speech dealing with international relations in front of the British Parliament is one thing. Addressing a class of elementry school students is another.



Except you know that's not what was happening here. Why must you always distort the truth to make your point?

[Depressio]

This was for a speech on NCLB. Nothing wrong with the set up at all.
It's funny. I have no idea what the speech was about and am having extreme difficulty finding an answer. Check out the Google results:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+elementary+school+speech+2010&aq=f&aqi=&oq=

9 out of 10 of the results is about the teleprompter, not the speech.

[gifford1967]

How embarrassing.

You would need a whole football stadium full of people face-palming simultaneously to properly cover that one.

Seriously. That is not only embarrassing for him personally, it is also a major embarrassment for our entire country. Someone please tell me that this picture is photo-shopped, and that it did not really happen. Really now.


You're right this is really embarassing.....for the palindrones.



President Barack Obama sits with Education Secretary Arne Duncan during discussion with 6th grade students at Graham Road Elementary School in Falls Church, Va., Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2010.
(AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3533/obamavaab102.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/i/obamavaab102.jpg/)


President Barack Obama, accompanied by Education Secretary Arne Duncan, speaks to the media after a discussion with 6th grade students at Graham Road Elementary School in Falls Church, Va., Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2010

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100119/capt.9131bc77c7534185bdbf267bb4ab8497.obama__vaab103.jpg

[basso]

WRONG

because it's so much better that it was 6th graders?

[mc mark]

It's funny. I have no idea what the speech was about and am having extreme difficulty finding an answer. Check out the Google results:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+elementary+school+speech+2010&aq=f&aqi=&oq=

9 out of 10 of the results is about the teleprompter, not the speech.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-02-02-nochild02_ST_N.htm

[sammy]

uh, am I missing something here? Obama reads off of a teleprompter?

what is the big deal with reading a teleprompter?

Some people would rather prefer bumbling idiots like Palin & Dubya.

[vlaurelio]

because it's so much better that it was 6th graders?

are you saying only a handful the 6th graders present in that classroom were the audience of the speech?

[Depressio]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-02-02-nochild02_ST_N.htm
Ah, okay. So he sat down with his advisor and some kids to discuss things, then came in front of the media all official-like and delivered a speech about his NCLB policy.

When he was talking with kids, did he have scribbles on his hand like "kids need education"?

[Dan B.]

Put it this way, since this is Black History Month, this is akin to seeing “civil rights” written on MLK’s hand.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=34263

This is what cracks me up. She seriously needed a reminder to mention <s>budget </s>tax cuts?

[basso]

a new low... (http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/obama_hits_lowe.php)

[Dan B.]

What's with all the Obama posts in a thread about Palin basso? Someone remove your thread starting privileges?

[vlaurelio]

What's with all the Obama posts in a thread about Palin basso? Someone remove your thread starting privileges?

me thinks basso's reminder to himself to start retarded threads for some reason has disappeared

[Dave_78]

a new low... (http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/obama_hits_lowe.php)

And yet he would still pile drive Sarah Palin or any other candidate the Republicans can come up with into the ground.

[mc mark]

a new low... (http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/obama_hits_lowe.php)

And yet, still higher than the last 3 1/2 years of the criminal Bush presidency

sucks to be you!

[Rashmon]

Palin needing to use the oldest cheating trick in the book really would not be an issue if she were one of the 6th graders to whom Obama was speaking.

However, since she got caught she should sit in the corner with a dunce cap.

[basso]

And yet he would still pile drive Sarah Palin or any other candidate the Republicans can come up with into the ground.

let's be clear, given the opportunity, i would pile drive palin...

[mc mark]

ms basso faints

[pgabriel]

let's be clear, given the opportunity, i would pile drive palin...


its really a shame that people would put this country in the hands of this woman because they want to put something else in her hand and other places.

if this woman were any less attractive she would not have any appeal on a national level.

basso willing to sell his soul for a woman with probably more dated views on gay rights than his previous hero because he's thinking with the wrong head is hilarious

[vlaurelio]

i wonder what mrs basso looks like for her husband to be jerking off to a retard

[Landlord Landry]

some really bad posts in this thread.

not exactly representing your side of the table very well.

[DieHard Rocket]

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/politics/100208-get-motivated-sarah-palin-toyota-center

Off-topic, but no need for more than one Palin thread.

Whoever organized this doozie must not be from Houston. "Let's have a huge political conference in downtown Houston during morning rush-hour!"

the only time I've seen worse traffic going to work is when there was an overturned 18-wheeler shutting down all lanes. I'd be livid if I paid $50 and couldn't even get there.

[moestavern19]

I just took a **** and smeared it all across my computer screen because it was better than reading this thread.

[Landlord Landry]

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6153/cautyeconomist.jpg

[Depressio]

I'd be livid if I paid $50 and couldn't even get there.
$50? But I heard on 790 that it was only $19 for an entire office. Did Rudy lie to me?!

[basso]

http://777denny.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/obama_fights_terror_mrz011110dapr201001090320241.jpg

[sammy]

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93375?fp=1
Remember those quizzes you had on the state capitals back in junior high? Oh, the pressure! The temptation to write "Pierre, Olympia, Dover, Albany" on the inside of your hand was overwhelming, wasn't it? But you resisted. Maybe Sarah Palin should have done the same.

The former vice presidential candidate seems to have been caught using curious crib notes during an interview this past weekend at the high-profile Tea Party Convention in Nashville. While speaking about her top political priorities, Ms. Palin gazed at her hand in a rather suspicious manner.

Later, Web researchers zoomed in on her left palm and found the following words scrawled in black ink: "Energy, Budget cuts (with "budget" crossed out), Tax, Lift American Spirits." In an ironic twist during the speech, Ms. Palin worked in a jab against President Obama's often-mocked use of TelePrompTers. You can watch the clip below or check out a close-up here.

Following the flap, the Web went wild. Andrea Mitchell of MSNBC mocked Ms. Palin by relying on her own crib notes to recap highlights from Palin's appearance. Her keynote speech, it should be noted, had the crowd on its feet. "Run, Sarah, run," the crowd chanted (as in "please run for president in 2012").

But palm-gate wasn't the only bit of news sparked by Palin. Her defense of Rush Limbaugh's use of the word "retards" raised eyebrows, as well. On Fox News Sunday, the anti "r-word" crusader contended that Limbaugh had used the word in the context of political humor and satire. Earlier in the week, the difference between her angry reaction to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's use of the "slur" and a more restrained response to Limbaugh's made from some awkward fallout. Web searches on "sarah palin on fox news" and "palin limbaugh" have both surged as the controversy swirled.

Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, has also been back in the news. The self-proclaimed former "first dude" of Alaska was revealed to be quite active in state business. According to recently uncovered emails, Todd Palin was "involved in a judicial appointment, monitored contract negotiations with public employee unions, received background checks on a corporate CEO, added his approval or disapproval to state board appointments and passed financial information marked 'confidential' from his oil company employer to a state attorney."

[wakkoman]

I just took a **** and smeared it all across my computer screen because it was better than reading this thread.

I hope you washed your hands before you typed that.

**** stuck in the keys isn't fun.

[Mulder]

Gov. Palin: "There are a lot of complicated talking points and I'm not sure I can remember all of them."

Republican Strategist: "Relax, Governor. Nobody can remember all of this material. Just put it on your Blackberry or Palm."

Palin: ... [thinks carefully]

http://misscongeniality.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/blackberries-photo3.jpg

...

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3631213/2/istockphoto_3631213_hand_palm.jpg

Palin: "Got it. Thanks!"

[FranchiseBlade]

one is the Chief of Staff, the other a talk radio host. surely you can see the difference.
She didn't make that distinction when going after David Letterman. Surely you can see the hypocrisy.

Though you will probably ignore it, and come back with lame outdated inapplicable jokes about teleprompters.

[FranchiseBlade]

btw, if they were so "outwitted" why have the republicans petitioned to make "question time" a regular event, and why has the admin rebuffed them?Your rationale for trying to ignore the fact that Obama without use of teleprompter outshone the GOP caucus on their turf is that Republicans want to make it a regular occurrence while The white house does not? That's your line of reasoning?

Have you no self respect, man?

[basso]

i wonder what mrs basso looks like for her husband to be jerking off to a retard

i wasn't sure before, but you've revealed your truest (juvenile) self. you, child, are an ass.

don't bother replying, i won't see it.

[Batman Jones]

i wasn't sure before, but you've revealed your truest (juvenile) self. you, child, are an ass.

And you, child, are a retard.

[wakkoman]

INTERNET SCOREBOARD, BITCHES!!!

[Deckard]

i wonder what mrs basso looks like for her husband to be jerking off to a retard
Did you seriously post that? Way, way out of bounds. I don't care how much basso bothers you, and he is frequently displaying some bizarre personality traits here, but that post of yours was a complete pile of crap. Absolutely no excuse for trash like that. Why wallow in what you complain about from others?




And you, child, are a retard.
I'm getting damned tired of reading this crap, as well. Since when is the behavior of others an excuse for lowering yourself to a level you vilify? Would it be at all possible to just remove the word "retard" from the BBS altogether? You know, like this **** I keep reading.


Sure, you are both going to carry on about how awful basso is, which he certainly deserves, but posts like this simply make you look like you just left the playground in junior high. Why not leave that to basso and his friends? I just don't see an excuse for this garbage.

[Depressio]

Did you seriously post that? Way, way out of bounds. I don't care how much basso bothers you, and he is frequently displaying some bizarre personality traits here, but that post of yours was a complete pile of crap. Absolutely no excuse for trash like that. Why wallow in what you complain about from others?
It was distasteful, but saying he would "pile-drive" Palin wasn't exactly tasteful to begin with. People are stooping to that level... almost as discouraging as poll numbers that show Americans are morons.

[vlaurelio]

Did you seriously post that? Way, way out of bounds. I don't care how much basso bothers you, and he is frequently displaying some bizarre personality traits here, but that post of yours was a complete pile of crap. Absolutely no excuse for trash like that. Why wallow in what you complain about from others?

what I said is not any worse than his racist attacks against my POTUS, his wife, and other posters in this board

for everyone else, I apologize for that, let me rephrase:

I wonder why a so-called conservative and married Mr Basso wants to "pile-drive" a certified idiot (Palin not his wife for the slower people in here)

[Deckard]

what I said is not any worse than his racist attacks against my POTUS, his wife, and other posters in this board

for everyone else, I apologize for that, let me rephrase:

I wonder why a so-called conservative and married Mr Basso wants to "pile-drive" a certified idiot
What difference does it make how much of an idiot basso is, or the crap he litters D&D with? That's supposed to make it OK to stoop to whatever level one wishes to place those two posts on? I just don't get it.

[vlaurelio]

What difference does it make how much of an idiot basso is, or the crap he litters D&D with? That's supposed to make it OK to stoop to whatever level one wishes to place those two posts on? I just don't get it.

okay one conservative and married man delusionally fantasizes about "pile-driving" some other woman
is it bad to ask if there's anything wrong with his marriage?

[Deckard]

okay one conservative and married man delusionally fantasizes about "pile-driving" some other woman
is it bad to ask if there's anything wrong with his marriage?
Yes. We leave our families out of the BBS, unless the member brings he/she/it up. I always thought that was an unwritten rule here. Not only in D&D, either. Yes, basso might be guilty of some of that himself, but it doesn't excuse the rest of us stooping to that level. Certainly, that's my opinion, and I have had that opinion for a long time. A comment that's clearly a well intentioned joke? A different situation.

We just don't need to go there, or keep using language that is better left unwritten.

[roslolian]

I was just drawing attention to the double standard. Again.

Is it unfair to expect President Obama to be able to perform at a standard that is at least as high as what you guys expect Sarah Palin to perform at? Or not?


Uh...there is no double standard here. The teleprompter shows whole speeches that last for more than 10 mins. As I recall Bush also used a teleprompter, so technically there's nothing wrong with it.

What Palin wrote was KEYWORDS...in her hand. Like some kid writing cheatnotes in a test. Why the hell would you need notes to remember words like "energy", "tax cuts" and "budget"? Its not like she was doing a Q & A, these questions are typical and something she should have expected would be asked already.

Since when are memorizing whole speeches and memorizing your key points the same?

[Sweet Lou 4 2]

What is there to defend? She wrote a couple of notes on her hand.

Big whoop.

This is why people don't like her - she uses amateurish notes to remember her 4 talking points - the same gibberish she spews interview after interview (why can't she remember those 4 stupid things) and yet BEMOANS Obama for using a teleprompter for a 20 minute speech!

It's just such utter non-sense...of course, you will claim we hate her because of her special needs child :rolleyes:

[Batman Jones]

We just don't need to go there, or keep using language that is better left unwritten.

Your faux mod act is tired.

[Deckard]

Your faux mod act is tired.

Your faux intellectual act is tired. You are what you eat, Batman, and you're busy eating basso. I hope you're enjoying your meal. You seem intent on becoming your dinner. Like to use the word "retard?" I'm not a mod, so I certainly can't stop you, you or anyone else. There's nothing "faux" about that. Don't like my comments? Don't read them.

[Batman Jones]

Don't like my comments? Don't read them.

LOL. Practice what you preach.

[moestavern19]

Your faux intellectual act is tired. You are what you eat, Batman, and you're busy eating basso. I hope you're enjoying your meal. You seem intent on becoming your dinner. Like to use the word "retard?" I'm not a mod, so I certainly can't stop you, you or anyone else. There's nothing "faux" about that. Don't like my comments? Don't read them.


I read this in Peter Griffin's voice for some reason.



It made a lot more sense.

[Invisible Fan]

I'm for the less poo flinging crowd. There are people here who read the articles other members post.

More **** flinging means less effort in trying, and that brings down the chance for some informative commentary.

[Dave_78]

let's be clear, given the opportunity, i would pile drive palin...

Just don't get a hand job from her unless you want sharpie ink all over your junk.

[moestavern19]

Just don't get a hand job from her unless you want sharpie ink all over your junk.


You'd think she'd rub it off with her tongue and a kleenex before she'd do that.

[Cohete Rojo]

Too bad "Pose for Playboy" was not one of the notes.

[MojoMan]

Palin Derangement Syndrome.

These kinds of crude, disgusting and hateful comments speak from your own hearts. They tell us a lot about the people who hate Sarah Palin, but nothing honestly relating to Sarah Palin herself.

This is all about you guys, and the hatred and fear that you harbor in your hearts.

Are there no moderators active in this forum? None at all?

[gifford1967]

Palin Derangement Syndrome.

These kinds of crude, disgusting and hateful comments speak from your own hearts. They tell us a lot about the people who hate Sarah Palin, but nothing honestly relating to Sarah Palin herself.

This is all about you guys, and the hatred and fear that you harbor in your hearts.

Are there no moderators active in this forum? None at all?


You mean like when basso, Palin's #1 fan boy in this forum, started the whole thing off by saying he'd like to pile drive Palin? Is that what you mean by "crude, disgusting" comments spoken from the heart?

[FranchiseBlade]

Palin Derangement Syndrome.

These kinds of crude, disgusting and hateful comments speak from your own hearts. They tell us a lot about the people who hate Sarah Palin, but nothing honestly relating to Sarah Palin herself.

This is all about you guys, and the hatred and fear that you harbor in your hearts.

Are there no moderators active in this forum? None at all?
I haven't seen anyone hate Sarah Palin. I've explained perfectly well in this thread why the left will spend time talking about her. It isn't hatred at all. It's laughing at a buffoon who puts herself out there believing that she is capable of governing or giving meaningful comment on politics.

I think most of us enjoy her idiocy immensely and would like her to stay in the spotlight.

The crudest comment about Palin came from basso who is one of her biggest supporters. Nevermind that he disrespected his own wife in the process.

You can claim it's fear and hatred all day, but that doesn't make it true.

The biggest fear I see is from you. Anytime someone makes a comment about Palin, you have no grounds on which to defend her, so you try and sidetrack the conversation with an attempt to make Obama look just as bad. It doesn't work, so then you accuse people who user Palin's own words, and logic to make her look like the laughing stock that she is of having P.D.S.

Why are you so afraid to acknowledge how much of an idiot she is? The evidence is pretty overwhelming.

[Rocketman95]

Obama Derangement Syndrome.

These kinds of crude, disgusting and hateful comments speak from your own hearts. They tell us a lot about the people who hate President Barack Obama, but nothing honestly relating to Barack Obama himself.

This is all about you guys, and the hatred and fear that you harbor in your hearts.

Are there no moderators active in this forum? None at all?

that was too easy.

[mc mark]

Palin Derangement Syndrome.

These kinds of crude, disgusting and hateful comments speak from your own hearts. They tell us a lot about the people who hate Sarah Palin, but nothing honestly relating to Sarah Palin herself.

This is all about you guys, and the hatred and fear that you harbor in your hearts.

Are there no moderators active in this forum? None at all?

Why would you need moderators? They'd just give you a new moniker and send you on your way.

[vlaurelio]

PDS = Pile-Drive Sarah

[sammy]

Anytime someone makes a comment about Palin, you have no grounds on which to defend her, so you try and sidetrack the conversation with an attempt to make Obama look just as bad. It doesn't work, so then you accuse people who user Palin's own words, and logic to make her look like the laughing stock that she is of having P.D.S.

Why are you so afraid to acknowledge how much of an idiot she is? The evidence is pretty overwhelming.

Quoted for Truth.

My God. This lady could have been one heart attack away from being our President :o

[marks0223]

President Obama uses a Teleprompter, Palin wrote a few words on her hand = 12 pages of posts?

Mega Facepalm
http://i.cr3ation.co.uk/dl/s1/jpg/facepalm.jpg

[vlaurelio]

President Obama uses a Teleprompter, Palin wrote a few words on her hand = 12 pages of posts?


president using a teleprompter for over 20 minutes speeches = NORMAL

presidential wannabe writing down 4 basic words which is core platform in her hands = IDIOTIC

[Oski2005]

You have to wonder what is really going on when using a teleprompter is the best line of attack people have on Obama. The teleprompter which is used by anybody who can get one when giving a speech is a normal thing. Before that it was typed up speech on paper. Before that it was a handwritten speech on paper. This is where we are right now, calling Obama incompetent or stupid for using the same thing as

EVERYBODY
http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/files/2009/03/reaganteleprompter.png

WHO GIVES
http://www.foxnews.com/images/137069/30_24_090204_bush_waving_450.jpg

MAJOR
http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/7/9/9/0/2/2/i/4/3/0/o/PalinConvention.jpg

SPEECHES
http://s.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web02/2009/3/19/15/bush-sr-with-teleprompter-7265-1237490815-31.jpg


And the blatant ignoring of hypocrisy. Sarah Palin wants one man to quit for using the word retard, defends another because he's a "satirist", yet still went after David Letterman. She calls out Obama for using a teleprompter while probably reading her speech off of one and then uses notes from her hand to answer questions she was given in advance. She lectures Obama for "lecturing." PDS....Palin Defender Syndrome...sounds about right. You knuckleheads can't possibly be this behind her. You expect me to believe that there isn't a Republican out there you would prefer to be President? This whole thing is a farce. It has to be.

[vlaurelio]

You knuckleheads can't possibly be this behind her.

or on top, in the front, etc...

[SunsRocketsfan]

president using a teleprompter for over 20 minutes speeches = NORMAL

presidential wannabe writing down 4 basic words which is core platform in her hands = IDIOTIC


Again why is everyone attacking Palin for something so trivial? We dont know the context of the story so I dont think it's fair to go blasting her and calling her an idiot. (I am no fan of Palin but let's not resort to name calling.) You may not agree with her politics or views but calling her an idiot isnt fair cause i highly doubt she is a idiot in real life. It's just like I don't agree with most of Obama's decisions but I am not going to go call him an idiot. In fact I think he is probably a pretty smart guy.

Also I always thought the use of the teleprompter was overblown. I think people are saying he uses it excessively in every single speech no matter how big or how small. But then again I dont see the big deal in it.

[pgabriel]

I don't want to start another Palin Thread, but what's despicable is this woman said that Obama would start a war with Iran to boost his popularity before the 2012 election when she was asked if she wanted to be a candidate.

[basso]

PDS

from a store in Hanoi...

http://www.samizdata.net/blog/~pdeh/bche.jpg

[vlaurelio]

Again why is everyone attacking Palin for something so trivial?

answer this: what are your basic beliefs?

[SunsRocketsfan]

I haven't seen anyone hate Sarah Palin. I've explained perfectly well in this thread why the left will spend time talking about her. It isn't hatred at all. It's laughing at a buffoon who puts herself out there believing that she is capable of governing or giving meaningful comment on politics.

I think most of us enjoy her idiocy immensely and would like her to stay in the spotlight.

The crudest comment about Palin came from basso who is one of her biggest supporters. Nevermind that he disrespected his own wife in the process.

You can claim it's fear and hatred all day, but that doesn't make it true.

The biggest fear I see is from you. Anytime someone makes a comment about Palin, you have no grounds on which to defend her, so you try and sidetrack the conversation with an attempt to make Obama look just as bad. It doesn't work, so then you accuse people who user Palin's own words, and logic to make her look like the laughing stock that she is of having P.D.S.

Why are you so afraid to acknowledge how much of an idiot she is? The evidence is pretty overwhelming.

I love it how you try to come off as level headed and fair and then you go ahead and do the exact same thing you were blasting basso for. Like I stated in my other post I highly doubt Palin is an idiot. Do you really know Palin outside her appearances on TV? Her appeal was she was like the everyday soccer mom that wasnt corrupted by politics (for the record I dont believe that, you cant get to where she's at not playing those dirty political games and she's really milking the spotlight now and making millions) So I think she's a lot smarter than you think. SHe's making millions and you are on this message board probably paying off your mortgage or paying your rent and she's there making millions for one short 30 min appearance. Hmmm sure sounds like an idiot to me.
So she's not as a eloquent speaker as Obama. Does that make her an idiot? NO. I think people equate someone who can speak well as being smarter. Remember the whole angle the media tried to portray on John Kerry as the high IQ man and Bush as the idiot? Well Kerry had lower grades in high school, college and his SATs than Bush.

So stop with the hating Franchise. It's getting tiring. If I call Obama an idiot (which i havent), you call it hate. When you call Palin an idiot you say its reason.

[SunsRocketsfan]

answer this: what are your basic beliefs?

why should I answer you? who are you? Your question has no relevance to the topic. Also you lost my respect when you went to personal attacks. Why cant people have a discussion with decorum and not resort to name calling and personal attacks? That isnt just directed at you but you certainly contributed to it.

Also you might want to be a little bit more specific with your questions.
What are my basic beliefs on what? Politics? Basketball? religion? career? family? I am not going to spend my time witting all my basic beliefs on here to someone who has no relevance in my life.

[vlaurelio]

Also you might want to be a little bit more specific with your questions.
What are my basic beliefs on what? Politics? Basketball? religion? career? family?

I apologized. Choose 1 then write only 4 words. Not that hard.

Any Pile-Drive Sarah can respond as well.

[mc mark]

from a store in Hanoi...


that's a pretty good knock off of van gogh's sunflowers

[Oski2005]

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[GladiatoRowdy]

I wonder how President Palin would do during question time with the Democratic caucus?

This whole episode left me with only a single question...

SO WHAT?!?!?!

[FranchiseBlade]

I love it how you try to come off as level headed and fair and then you go ahead and do the exact same thing you were blasting basso for. Like I stated in my other post I highly doubt Palin is an idiot. Do you really know Palin outside her appearances on TV? Her appeal was she was like the everyday soccer mom that wasnt corrupted by politics (for the record I dont believe that, you cant get to where she's at not playing those dirty political games and she's really milking the spotlight now and making millions) So I think she's a lot smarter than you think. SHe's making millions and you are on this message board probably paying off your mortgage or paying your rent and she's there making millions for one short 30 min appearance. Hmmm sure sounds like an idiot to me.
So she's not as a eloquent speaker as Obama. Does that make her an idiot? NO. I think people equate someone who can speak well as being smarter. Remember the whole angle the media tried to portray on John Kerry as the high IQ man and Bush as the idiot? Well Kerry had lower grades in high school, college and his SATs than Bush.

So stop with the hating Franchise. It's getting tiring. If I call Obama an idiot (which i havent), you call it hate. When you call Palin an idiot you say its reason.You can call Obama an idiot. I might call it hate because you don't have any real examples of Obama being an idiot.

The same isn't true of Sarah Palin. There are plenty of examples of Sarah Palin's idiocy, and they are absolutely hilarious. I don't hate her. I hope she stays around and keeps providing examples of her idiocy for all of us to have a good time laughing at. It's great for her to stick around be herself. I just hope more people are able to enjoy her being an idiot, and fewer people make the mistake of taking her seriously like the poor folks who believed her when she claimed the health care reform bill really had anything to do with government actually running health care, or having death panels, or any of the other things she's made up or lied about.

I've accused basso of lots of things, so I'm not sure which you are referring
to when you talk about me doing the same thing.

I do remember Kerry's grades being slightly lower than Bush's. However there is no such incident regarding Obama and Palin.

You can highly doubt Palin is an idiot of you would like to. But I urge you to go back and watch the Couric interview, or the Charlie Rose interview. Or if you are feel that Katy Couric was being too mean and unfair to Palin by asking what she read, then look at Palin's own speech where she claimed that the President had a department of law and even gave this supposed Department of Law a function.

That was from her own speech, and it was absolutely hilarious, and prime example of her acting like an idiot. I wouldn't attack her for being an idiot if she didn't try and come off like she actually knew what she was talking about. The Department of law is a perfect example. Anyway as long as she present herself as some type of qualified expert and demonstrates the opposite, I will laugh at her and enjoy her antics. I hope she keeps it up. I'm serious. I really do. It's great fun.

If you believe I'm guilty of something I accuse basso of, please let me know, and I will seriously try and address the issue. I don't mind having a serious discussion with you on the topic.

[rimrocker]

from a store in Hanoi...

http://www.samizdata.net/blog/~pdeh/bche.jpg

OMG! They have the movie Milk for sale. The Gay agenda is going worldwide. Lock up the children!

[FranchiseBlade]

from a store in Hanoi...

http://www.samizdata.net/blog/~pdeh/bche.jpg
Again. What is your point? A store in Hanoi has a painting of both Che, and Obama?

That makes Obama look bad... how?

[thelasik]

The White House strikes back!

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[basso]

The White House strikes back!

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[mc mark]

^^^ It's kicking yer ass that's for sure!

[Zboy]

The White House strikes back!

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Brilliant!! :grin:

I also like Colbert's "Thumb"!

Palin is an embarrassment but she is very amusing!

[Shooter3]

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[BetterThanI]

http://www.therepublicanexpress.com/v/vspfiles/photos/BTR6367-2.jpg
So far, it's working pretty well...

http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4b6c5ff6000000000042f5ed/chart-of-the-day-jobs-lost-in-the-bush-and-obama-administrations.gif

Stats courtesy of the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

[mc mark]

better and better --

Sarah Palin's 'Bigger Blunder' At Tea Party Convention Was On The Wrist, Not The Hand (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/10/sarah-palins-bigger-blund_n_457474.html)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/140158/thumbs/s-PALINWRIST-large.jpg

It appears that Sarah Palin may have committed an even bigger faux-pas than simply reading from "crib notes" on her hand during her appearance at the National Tea Party Convention over the weekend.

The former Alaska governor wore a black bracelet with the name of her oldest son, Track Palin, who served in Iraq in 2008. Only problem is bracelets of this nature are traditionally reserved to commemorate those who have died in military service. Track is still alive.

In a guest article in Wednesday's Yale Daily News, Eric Robinson, a first-year Yale graduate student in international relations and a veteran of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, pointed out why Palin's choice of bracelet was particularly troubling:

This brings me back to my issue with Palin. The name on her black memorial bracelet -- one, like the gold star, a demonstration of a friend or associate who was killed in action -- is that of her oldest son, Track. Track served honorably in Iraq, and both he and his parents should be thanked for his selfless service to his country. He is also alive.


Commemorating Track's service by wearing a a black memorial bracelet which is reserved for those dead or even a red bracelet for those missing in action, demonstrates a horrifying contempt for those who gave their last full measure of devotion or an almost unbelievable ignorance of the importance of symbols in American history.

Unfortunately, given Palin's reputation and frequent public statements, I assume it is the latter.

Sarah Palin, please take off the bracelet. Be thankful you have no reason to wear it.

[SunsRocketsfan]

better and better --

Sarah Palin's 'Bigger Blunder' At Tea Party Convention Was On The Wrist, Not The Hand (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/10/sarah-palins-bigger-blund_n_457474.html)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/140158/thumbs/s-PALINWRIST-large.jpg

It appears that Sarah Palin may have committed an even bigger faux-pas than simply reading from "crib notes" on her hand during her appearance at the National Tea Party Convention over the weekend.

The former Alaska governor wore a black bracelet with the name of her oldest son, Track Palin, who served in Iraq in 2008. Only problem is bracelets of this nature are traditionally reserved to commemorate those who have died in military service. Track is still alive.

In a guest article in Wednesday's Yale Daily News, Eric Robinson, a first-year Yale graduate student in international relations and a veteran of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, pointed out why Palin's choice of bracelet was particularly troubling:

yes that me a poor choice to wear that type of bracelet but I really think all this is no news. It's just like how when Obama bowed or shook hands or gave the queen a Ipod shouldnt be NEWS or criticized. these are just people with an ax to grind and will find any tiny piece of information to start a dispute or controversy. It's not a big deal either way.

[mc mark]

yes that me a poor choice to wear that type of bracelet but I really think all this is no news. It's just like how when Obama bowed or shook hands or gave the queen a Ipod shouldnt be NEWS or criticized. these are just people with an ax to grind and will find any tiny piece of information to start a dispute or controversy. It's not a big deal either way.


BDS > PDS

[AntiSonic]

better and better --

Sarah Palin's 'Bigger Blunder' At Tea Party Convention Was On The Wrist, Not The Hand (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/10/sarah-palins-bigger-blund_n_457474.html)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/140158/thumbs/s-PALINWRIST-large.jpg

It appears that Sarah Palin may have committed an even bigger faux-pas than simply reading from "crib notes" on her hand during her appearance at the National Tea Party Convention over the weekend.

The former Alaska governor wore a black bracelet with the name of her oldest son, Track Palin, who served in Iraq in 2008. Only problem is bracelets of this nature are traditionally reserved to commemorate those who have died in military service. Track is still alive.

In a guest article in Wednesday's Yale Daily News, Eric Robinson, a first-year Yale graduate student in international relations and a veteran of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, pointed out why Palin's choice of bracelet was particularly troubling:


NONTROVERSY

http://www.herobracelets.org/?p=3256
Back in 2008, we had heard that both Sarah Palin’s son and now Vice President Joseph Biden’s son were heading off on deployements, so we made them both a set of Deployed HeroBracelets with their son’s names on the bracelets. Our way for thanking them both for having son’s in the military. We actually got a very nice call from Senator Biden’s office, thanking us for the HeroBracelets. And now we’re quite proud to see Sarah Palin wearing her HeroBracelet.