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Outlier
02-05-2010, 07:46 PM
Will he be the youngest ever? Just wonderin...

He's very very close.

btw, he needs to cut down on his turnovers.

RoxTurk
02-05-2010, 07:50 PM
If Thunders makes playoffs this year, he should win the MVP, no doubt.

This guy is amazing. Everyone talks about Lebron James being the next MJ and I agree a bit, but I think Durant will be very close to LBJ, probably better than Kobe if injuries wont make him suffer.

A_3PO
02-05-2010, 08:01 PM
I'm a big fan of his and the scoring title doesn't mean anything. I want the Thunder to experience a playoff series so they can get a taste of the next level. It would be good for their long-term development.

KD doesn't fit the mold of MJ or LeBron or Kobe. He is his own player. If you think he's effective on offense now, just wait until he gains 5-10 lbs and dusts off his long lost post game.

zoork34
02-05-2010, 09:18 PM
According to Bill Simmons, he'll be the youngest by 2 years :eek:

FLASH21
02-05-2010, 09:29 PM
I'm a big fan of his and the scoring title doesn't mean anything. I want the Thunder to experience a playoff series so they can get a taste of the next level so that Joey Dorsey can beast on them in the playoffs the next year.

Fixed for you.

HoustonRockets
02-05-2010, 09:39 PM
Durant will become one of the best, but T-Mac his role model will always be better :)

peleincubus
02-05-2010, 11:45 PM
durant has taken over as my favorite player.

and if anyone could post the link in this thread for pre season playoff prediction thread i would appreciate it.

im pretty sure its in that thread that i said the thunder would make the playoffs and i was shot down pretty hard.

gwatson86
02-06-2010, 12:03 AM
If Thunders makes playoffs this year, he should win the MVP, no doubt.

This guy is amazing. Everyone talks about Lebron James being the next MJ and I agree a bit, but I think Durant will be very close to LBJ, probably better than Kobe if injuries wont make him suffer.

His game isn't nearly as well rounded as MJ's or Lebron's. The scoring is there for sure, but he trails those guys by a fair to large margin in most other categories.

A_3PO
02-06-2010, 12:42 AM
His game isn't nearly as well rounded as MJ's or Lebron's. The scoring is there for sure, but he trails those guys by a fair to large margin in most other categories.
Let's discuss again in 5-6 years. MJ wasn't "well rounded" as a 21 year-old either and look what happened. And KD doesn't have to even be another MJ; he's a totally different type of player.

You know a player is on the right track when he's only 21 and someone says he trails MJ and LeBron by a fair margin in other categories besides scoring. LOL! Everyone knows what "faint praise" is and what it's meant to do. Unintentionally, you did the exact opposite to KD.

roslolian
02-06-2010, 03:52 AM
Let's discuss again in 5-6 years. MJ wasn't "well rounded" as a 21 year-old either and look what happened. And KD doesn't have to even be another MJ; he's a totally different type of player.

You know a player is on the right track when he's only 21 and someone says he trails MJ and LeBron by a fair margin in other categories besides scoring. LOL! Everyone knows what "faint praise" is and what it's meant to do. Unintentionally, you did the exact opposite to KD.

To be honest the only one comparable to MJ was Wade and Kobe.

I don't think there's any single player out there who resembles LBJ's game. Ditto for Durant. That's why they're gonna be the top 2 players in history when all is said and done.

RocketMania1991
02-06-2010, 03:58 AM
To be honest the only one comparable to MJ was Wade and Kobe.

I don't think there's any single player out there who resembles LBJ's game. Ditto for Durant. That's why they're gonna be the top 2 players in history when all is said and done.

Top 2 players in NBA history :confused:

That seems highly unlikely

A_3PO
02-06-2010, 08:27 AM
To be honest the only one comparable to MJ was Wade and Kobe.

I don't think there's any single player out there who resembles LBJ's game. Ditto for Durant. That's why they're gonna be the top 2 players in history when all is said and done.
Big statement there with LeBron not having won any championships and with KD still developing at 21 years-old. I think both guys have the talent (and KD has the drive) to make this possible. But it isn't likely.

rocketblaze
02-06-2010, 09:16 AM
I think he can pull it off, and if he does, he would win it at only 21yrs of age.....

PS. Its only a matter of time till he take the crown from LBJ... :cool:

--RB

BetterThanEver
02-06-2010, 09:27 AM
It's still amazing that Portland passed this kid up for a 7 ft center that got worked over by Carl Landry in college.

BuckeyeRocketFan
02-06-2010, 09:29 AM
Big statement there with LeBron not having won any championships and with KD still developing at 21 years-old. I think both guys have the talent (and KD has the drive) to make this possible. But it isn't likely.
In my opinion, Jordan isn't even the best player in NBA history and neither of these guys have a shot either. Wilt Chamberlain is the best ever. He just toyed with the league when he was in it.

durvasa
02-06-2010, 09:33 AM
In my opinion, Jordan isn't even the best player in NBA history and neither of these guys have a shot either. Wilt Chamberlain is the best ever. He just toyed with the league when he was in it.

For a guy who toyed with the league, he lost a surprisingly high percentage of important playoff games.

number22
02-06-2010, 09:37 AM
For a guy who toyed with the league, he lost a surprisingly high percentage of important playoff games.

This :cool:

Pieman2005
02-06-2010, 09:43 AM
In my opinion, Jordan isn't even the best player in NBA history and neither of these guys have a shot either. Wilt Chamberlain is the best ever. He just toyed with the league when he was in it.

Wilt had basically NO competition back then..

If Thunders makes playoffs this year, he should win the MVP, no doubt.

But the Cavs are likely to have the best record. Plus Lebron is averaging 29 7 8.. which is crazy.. and more than Durant does. No way Kevin wins MVP this year.

A_3PO
02-06-2010, 10:18 AM
For the sake of discussion,

Considering the Cavs injury situation, them still having the best record in the NBA and with LeBron's amazing stats, somebody make a legit argument for another player being MVP to date. Don't post something weak just to reply, give me a truly legit argument that sane people might agree with.

IMO, you can't. LeBron is the runaway winner so far this season. Kobe is great but you put him on the Cavs and ain't no way they are still 40-11. Yes, I said 40-11! The Lakers are only 38-13 and lost to the Cavs twice. PJ coaches the Lakers. Who coaches the Cavs? Mike Brown?! Things can change over the last 30 games, but if the MVP vote was taken now it should be nearly unanimous.

KD, Melo, Wade, Chauncey, Dirk blah blah blah aren't even in the conversation. It starts and ends with LeBron.

bigballerj
02-06-2010, 07:09 PM
It's still amazing that Portland passed this kid up for a 7 ft center that got worked over by Carl Landry in college.

Durant was picked 1st. I'm pretty sure they would pick KD if OKC picked Oden.

Rockets Jones
02-06-2010, 07:21 PM
He should win MVP and Scottie Brooks COY, MIP would be between him, Brooks and some1 else I can't think of right now.

Can some1 tell me how Durant is handling all this, is he being humble, realistic, starting to get an ego or already lost thus cocky ?

A_3PO
02-06-2010, 07:23 PM
Durant was picked 1st. I'm pretty sure they would pick KD if OKC picked Oden.
Durant was the 2nd pick of the draft after Oden. The Blazers messed up.

htownballa23
02-06-2010, 07:23 PM
Durant was picked 1st. I'm pretty sure they would pick KD if OKC picked Oden.

What??

apollo33
02-06-2010, 07:36 PM
Durant was picked 1st. I'm pretty sure they would pick KD if OKC picked Oden.

hwaaaaaaaaaat?? you mad

Ziggy
02-07-2010, 11:49 AM
I don't know about all this MVP talk... he is Mitch Richmond tier at best right now.

peleincubus
02-07-2010, 11:59 AM
I don't know about all this MVP talk... he is Mitch Richmond tier at best right now.

mitch richmond was very good for several years. but kevin durant is no mitch richmond.

mazyar
02-07-2010, 02:36 PM
He should win MVP and Scottie Brooks COY, MIP would be between him, Brooks and some1 else I can't think of right now.

Can some1 tell me how Durant is handling all this, is he being humble, realistic, starting to get an ego or already lost thus cocky ?
I have been following the Thunder team very very closely as of late. I can tell you that I am really impressed with his character. He is not showing any of the bad traits that you listed above. As a matter of fact that seems to be the case for the entire Thunder team.

I am starting to become a HUGE Thunder fan.

TriumVirate
02-07-2010, 02:55 PM
In my opinion, Jordan isn't even the best player in NBA history and neither of these guys have a shot either. Wilt Chamberlain is the best ever. He just toyed with the league when he was in it.

Nah Wilt isn't the best. He played against scrubs. The best player in NBA history is Hakeem :)

Seven
02-07-2010, 07:42 PM
I have been following the Thunder team very very closely as of late. I can tell you that I am really impressed with his character. He is not showing any of the bad traits that you listed above. As a matter of fact that seems to be the case for the entire Thunder team.

I am starting to become a HUGE Thunder fan.
Well he did come from Texas.

CaptainRox
02-07-2010, 07:48 PM
IMO opinion KD is better than LBJ. Kd has started with a scrub team just like lebron did BUT Durants in the western conference which does make a difference.

T-macsterful1
02-07-2010, 07:51 PM
Durant will become one of the best, but T-Mac his role model will always be better :)

haha, it's funny cause it's t-mac he's chasing right now, T-mac is currently the youngest scoring champ since the merging with the ABA. So perhaps if he surpasses t-mac this season it's foreshadowing the rest of his career.

A_3PO
02-07-2010, 07:51 PM
Well he did come from Texas.
He's from the D.C. area, not Texas. He only went to UT for one year.

lalala902102001
02-08-2010, 12:59 AM
IMO opinion KD is better than LBJ. Kd has started with a scrub team just like lebron did BUT Durants in the western conference which does make a difference.

KD is certainly making his way to the elite status, but Lebron is by far the best player in the league. There is no comparison, at least not now.

JujuxG
02-08-2010, 01:00 AM
people are overly contrasting upcoming players to the Hof, people often forgot everyone got their own style, no two players are exactly alike.
Scoring champ don't matter, its all about the ring, i'm sure player would trade they mvp trophy for a ring.

ParaSolid
02-08-2010, 02:16 AM
You can't mention this kid and MJ in the same sentence. MJ at his age (21-22) averaged 28 points on 51.5% shooting. Aside from that he averaged 6.5 rebounds and 5.9 assists. Got to the playoffs and was voted an all-star. All this when he was 21-22. No comparison.

Outlier
02-08-2010, 02:54 AM
You can't mention this kid and MJ in the same sentence. MJ at his age (21-22) averaged 28 points on 51.5% shooting. Aside from that he averaged 6.5 rebounds and 5.9 assists. Got to the playoffs and was voted an all-star. All this when he was 21-22. No comparison.

Umm Kevin Durant is 21 right now averaging 29.7 points on .485 shooting. its not that far off. (with 7.3 rebounds and 3 assists) pushing for the playoffs.

ParaSolid
02-08-2010, 03:57 AM
Umm Kevin Durant is 21 right now averaging 29.7 points on .485 shooting. its not that far off. (with 7.3 rebounds and 3 assists) pushing for the playoffs.

What did he average as a rookie? Because those were Jordan's numbers as soon as he got to the league.

Outlier
02-08-2010, 04:07 AM
What did he average as a rookie? Because those were Jordan's numbers as soon as he got to the league.

Does it matter? Are you saying since Durant got in the league sooner he has an advantage of having more years in the NBA? They are the same age, that's the point. It's not like Durant's gonna retire sooner because he got into the NBA sooner. Or it's not like Durant has more experience cause Jordan's runs in the NCAA were pretty valuable too.

ParaSolid
02-08-2010, 04:29 AM
Does it matter? Are you saying since Durant got in the league sooner he has an advantage of having more years in the NBA? They are the same age, that's the point. It's not like Durant's gonna retire sooner because he got into the NBA sooner. Or it's not like Durant has more experience cause Jordan's runs in the NCAA were pretty valuable too.

Of course it matters. Playing in the NBA is entirely different than playing in the NCAA or any other league since the competition is better and the rules are different. Having a year under your belt playing in the NBA is an invaluable experience since you get used to all these new things. Just because they are the same age doesn't mean that that you can discount their experiences to that point.

I'm not saying that Jordan's NCAA experience should be dismissed, just that nothing can replace a year in the NBA, not even more years in college ball. I would compare them (jordan and durant) not by achievements at the same age, but by the amount of years they've been in the NBA.

leebigez
02-08-2010, 09:12 AM
Let's discuss again in 5-6 years. MJ wasn't "well rounded" as a 21 year-old either and look what happened. And KD doesn't have to even be another MJ; he's a totally different type of player.

You know a player is on the right track when he's only 21 and someone says he trails MJ and LeBron by a fair margin in other categories besides scoring. LOL! Everyone knows what "faint praise" is and what it's meant to do. Unintentionally, you did the exact opposite to KD.


I think he's more like carmello than mj or lebron. I think he's a scorer and can do that well though and its nothing rong with that.

peleincubus
02-08-2010, 09:15 AM
people are overly contrasting upcoming players to the Hof, people often forgot everyone got their own style, no two players are exactly alike.
Scoring champ don't matter, its all about the ring, i'm sure player would trade they mvp trophy for a ring.

rules are made to be broken. but come on man the english language... uh nevermind you sound really really cool.

Tha TC
02-08-2010, 05:13 PM
KD reminds me of T-Mac except KD has that fire underneath him he's a silky shooter (much better than tracy) and can drive and dish his only downside is his weak frame

TimBly15
02-08-2010, 06:24 PM
I'm a big fan of his and the scoring title doesn't mean anything. I want the Thunder to experience a playoff series so they can get a taste of the next level. It would be good for their long-term development.

KD doesn't fit the mold of MJ or LeBron or Kobe. He is his own player. If you think he's effective on offense now, just wait until he gains 5-10 lbs and dusts off his long lost post game.
once he gets that weight up he'll be unstoppable. what is he 6'9???

TimBly15
02-08-2010, 06:26 PM
rules are made to be broken. but come on man the english language... uh nevermind you sound really really cool.
lol you must have had a long day brother

A_3PO
02-08-2010, 07:59 PM
once he gets that weight up he'll be unstoppable. what is he 6'9???
He's 6'9 without shoes, 6'10+ with shoes (which, I think, is how most players are measured). His standing reach is 9'2 (4 more inches than LeBron, 2 more than David West). Wingspan is 7'5 (same as Yao).

Because of his long arms, KD plays even taller than he is. At SF or SG, it's tough on defenders.

He's not going to gain weight very fast. I imagine he'll gain 10-15 pounds gradually into his peak years. I use KG as a comparison. KG was every bit as skinny as KD when he was a rookie.

WhoMikeJames
02-16-2010, 02:02 PM
Still can't believe KD's numbers. Absolutely sick.

kevolution
02-17-2010, 04:12 PM
Durant was picked 1st. I'm pretty sure they would pick KD if OKC picked Oden.

watttttttttttttt

ryano2009
02-17-2010, 04:21 PM
If Thunders makes playoffs this year, he should win the MVP, no doubt.

This guy is amazing. Everyone talks about Lebron James being the next MJ and I agree a bit, but I think Durant will be very close to LBJ, probably better than Kobe if injuries wont make him suffer.


WHAT ? you can't be serious.. :eek:

He is nowhere LBJ and Kobe's level

BiGGieStuFF
02-17-2010, 04:42 PM
I don't watch college basketball but one time I turned it on to a UT game when KD was playing there and had no idea who he was. I swear that kid was moving 10x faster than anyone else. He's so smooth and effortless. He made everything look soooo easy and now he's doing the same thing in the NBA. I hope his career lasts a long time.

T-macsterful1
02-17-2010, 04:47 PM
To be honest the only one comparable to MJ was Wade and Kobe.

I don't think there's any single player out there who resembles LBJ's game. Ditto for Durant. That's why they're gonna be the top 2 players in history when all is said and done.


you can argue that lebron is similar to magic. not entirely but you see glimpses of similarities now and again...

Depressio
02-17-2010, 04:51 PM
durant has taken over as my favorite player.
Yeah, he's pretty up there for me, too. What I like most about him is his personality, really -- he's not all show like LeBron, nor does he try to act all badass like Kobe does (see: Kobe mouthing "can't stop me" during playoffs). He's meek, keeps to himself, but does his job extraordinarily well.