Pedro Martinez

[JLEW1818]

why not sign him? All he is asking for is 5 million.. And honestly I think he could be our number 4, maybe even number 3.

[kaleidosky]

Texans, right? After all, he is a FA..

[Legend Killer]

cause his 85mph fastball would get taken the train tracks everytime.

[Baqui99]

At $5 million, that would roughly be $1M per start.

[Mr. Clutch]

Uh, we've already got Mike Hampton. What else do we need.

[JLEW1818]

We have Roy O a clear number 1. Wandy is not a number 2. Backe is not even a number 3.

I feel that we have Roy O

and a couple 3's and 4's. Have you seen Hampton's stats lately ? You don't think his **** will get hit to the tracks? Good grief. Astros will be 84-78 at best. Not to mention we close @ phil and @ NYM

[TheBigAristotle]

We can rebuild him, we have the technology.

[baller4life315]

$5M may not seem like much by baseball standards but that still is a hefty price tag for a starter that can no longer go past five innings.

[MadMax]

Not to mention we close @ phil and @ NYM

I have no idea how the Astros will perform this season.

But there's not a lot of recent history to suggest that anyone should be scared of playing the Mets in late-September.

[JLEW1818]

I agree that the mets have choked the last 2 years towards the end of the season. But you have to figure they are due.......

[bobrek]

I agree that the mets have choked the last 2 years towards the end of the season. But you have to figure they are due.......

And how will signing Martinez help against the Mets in September? The last 3 years he hasn't been able to pitch more than 130 innings a year (and only 50+ innings in 2007).

[JunkyardDwg]

I agree that the mets have choked the last 2 years towards the end of the season. But you have to figure they are due.......


Just like the Astros have choked in the first half of the season for the better part of a decade...their due to come out of the gate a little bit faster.

In any case they already took a flier on a broken down, once great, pitcher. They don't need two.

Or better yet, have Backe and Pedro share starts. Backe can give the team about 3 innings before he implodes and Pedro is only good for 5. Put 'em together you might have a decent starter.

[JLEW1818]

lol that could be true. I'm very worried about the pitching staff.

[JLEW1818]

And how will signing Martinez help against the Mets in September? The last 3 years he hasn't been able to pitch more than 130 innings a year (and only 50+ innings in 2007).


maybe he could give us a better cushion ?? for September? These are just thoughts, I don't see what Pedro could hurt?

[bobrek]

maybe he could give us a better cushion ?? for September? These are just thoughts, I don't see what Pedro could hurt?

Based on last year's numbers, Moehler and Rodriguez would be ahead of Martinez in the Astros' pecking order. Do you really think they should spend 5 million on a pitcher who has a 3 year history of being injured for a significant portion of the season?

If they could get him for next to nothing, it wouldn't hurt to take a look at him, but $5 million is a bit steep.

[JLEW1818]

five million is just what i heard on ESPN. I'm sure we might try and throw a couple million at him and see what he might say. Probably a long shot, but who knows. Honestly though, I'd say he is on the same level as every other pitcher on the Astros, excluding Roy and Val ..... but your right 5 million would be to much, and to risky... I just hope Hampton can have a hell of a year. who knows

[clutch citizen]

At this point, I'll take any pitcher with a decent track record. It can't be any worse than what the stros have now

[JLEW1818]

true that, plus Pedro has some a lot more experience

[edwardc]

Maybe he can be productive it won't hurt cause what we have right now is just not going to it get.

[Fulgore]

The scary part is a washed up over the hill Pedro is proably better than anything in the starting rotation minus Oswalt. No way the Astros add another 5mil to payroll. Only f.a. that has a chance of getting added to the team is Ivan Rodriguez I.M.O.

[Nice Rollin]

you can have pedro

[TheBigAristotle]

The scary part is a washed up over the hill Pedro is proably better than anything in the starting rotation minus Oswalt. No way the Astros add another 5mil to payroll. Only f.a. that has a chance of getting added to the team is Ivan Rodriguez I.M.O.


Doubtful. I'd take a chance with a younger guy giving up bombs all day than a over-the-hill starter getting $5 mill to do the same thing.

[JLEW1818]

If we are in a playoff run at the trade deadline, I could see us going after another arm. If not, I see us trading Tejada

[moonsh0t]

We have Roy O a clear number 1. Wandy is not a number 2. Backe is not even a number 3.


If the season started today the rotation would be,

Oswalt
Wandy
Hampton
Moehler
Capellan/Ortiz

Backe, if healthy is competing for the 5 spot.

[redgoose]

If the season started today the rotation would be,

Oswalt
Wandy
Hampton
Moehler
Capellan/Ortiz

Backe, if healthy is competing for the 5 spot.

Looking at this rotation really excites me about the upcoming season! :eek: Especially since Astros history has taught us pitching is what gets us out of the first round off the playoffs, and possibly to the WS. At least Pudge might be able to help our dynamite pitching rotation :rolleyes: save a run here and there!

[The Cat]

Pedro and his washed up, 83 mph fastball isn't going to help anyone.

With that said, the Astros have far, far, far larger concerns than the pitching staff. If they aren't going to address those, of course they're not going to look at this, nor should they given their budget restrictions.

[yobod]

The fact of the matter is, Drayton has fully conceded this season, due to the "recession." I have no problem with the Astros taking a season or two to rebuild the team, and replenish the farm system....what I do have a problem with is Uncle Moneybags' actions speaking louder than his words. If you're going to rebuild, then at least have the decency and honesty to tell the fans as much. Don't go around spewing lies about how you feel like we're fielding a contender this year, and that you see another pennant run coming. It's garbage, and there isn't one person in this city who believes it. Fans will continue to watch the Astros because Houston is a baseball city. If you don't believe me, just listen to Charlie Palilo's show, and count how many guys call in wanting to talk about the Astros in mid-March when the team hasn't done SQUAT in Spring Training, even while we have a basketball team in town that's on a heck of a roll right now.

[JLEW1818]

trade everyone except Pence, Berkman, and Roy.... and lets build and damn team.. i would rather suck for 3 years and then be good. But if not, lets get another arm with experience since we probably have about a 10% chance of making the playoffs. ****, we barley made the playofffs when we had Roger and Andy here. So how is Mike Hampton going to ??? ha

[Fulgore]

Doubtful. I'd take a chance with a younger guy giving up bombs all day than a over-the-hill starter getting $5 mill to do the same thing.I agree. Pedro may be a 4th starter for some teams but not for 5 mil a year. Borderline hall of famer.Some of that greatness would popup every now and then.