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Ron from the G
03-02-2009, 02:57 PM
A friend pointed out to me that the Colts fan board is giving some props to the Texans.

http://forum.colts.com/showthread.php?t=40749

Some notable mentions:

Houston, I think they could really give the division some problems this year. Schaub is healthy, they have a good running game, and one of the best young defenses in the league. Not to mention they will have an easy schedule based on this years record. They have some superstars on that team Domico Ryans, Mario Williams, Johnson, and Schaub is pretty good also. I think they are a team that is close to being great.

Not a bad call....I think the Texans finally make the playoffs too.
Arash713
03-02-2009, 03:31 PM
is the schedule out already
leroy420
03-02-2009, 03:43 PM
is the schedule out already

Actual schedule isn't out, yet, but the list of opponents is...

2009 List of Opponents (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/2009opponents.asp)
Ric
03-02-2009, 03:46 PM
is the schedule out already
14 of the games have literally been out since 2002.
ryan17wagner
03-02-2009, 03:53 PM
A friend pointed out to me that the Colts fan board is giving some props to the Texans.

http://forum.colts.com/showthread.php?t=40749

Some notable mentions:



Schaub is healthy cause it's the off-season. Wait til the season starts. Boom!
xcrunner51
03-02-2009, 03:56 PM
One of the best young defenses in the league? How did they come to that conclusion. MW and Demeco are pro bowlers and Antonio Smith and Dunta are solid starters, but the rest of the group ain't anything to write home about.

Just within the front 7, we could potentially stand to upgrade both DT spots and 2/3 LB spots. And then you have the secondary, which I'd say only Dunta is a certainty to be a starter on another team. I do like the young options at CB: Bennett and Moldin but they are very unproven. Our safeties do and have always sucked. Apologies to Eugene Wilson but he's not that good.

Maybe they meant best young offense in the league?
xcrunner51
03-02-2009, 03:57 PM
Schaub is healthy cause it's the off-season. Wait til the season starts. Boom!

You forgot the "Roasted" after the "Boom!" :D
candlegreen
03-02-2009, 04:39 PM
one thing about a defense. A better pass-rush will solve most of those problems. We're not that far away defensively.
Wakko67
03-02-2009, 04:45 PM
one thing about a defense. A better pass-rush will solve most of those problems. We're not that far away defensively.

I do see some truth to that.

Also see Omobi getting better this year. We have more options in the draft now to maybe go after a LB. Lets not forget either that we have a new DC. I'm curious to see how much our D changes based on that alone.

I would agree that we have a solid foundation to a strong D in the future. If the offense keeps going and the D comes around.......whew. We could be something special.

Optimism is warranted. I feel the team is being put together the right way with a solid core. Its not as if we're putting a bunch of retreads on the field.
MadMax
03-02-2009, 04:48 PM
man, i'm excited about 2009 for the texans!!!!
JayZ750
03-02-2009, 04:54 PM
Not to mention they will have an easy schedule based on this years record.

Isn't it kind of hard to predict schedules for the NFL? Granted, if forced to bet, I'd say the Rams, Raiders, Bengals and Seahawks will all be on the wrong side of .500 again next year, but Miami was supposed to be an easy win last year, too.
gucci888
03-02-2009, 05:21 PM
I don't think its any secret that the Texans are on their way up. Our offense is already very potent with Schaub/AJ/Daniels/Slaton, better redzone efficiency is much needed.

As far as the defense, I think we'll be much better just by addition by subtraction (Smith). Mario and Smith should be a nice tandem and hopefully Okoye will have a break-out year. I would still like to add another DT though. The LB core is a mixed bag IMO, Diles and Adibi were pretty good last season but an upgrade would be nice. I also think having a healthy Dunta will be a huge addition to the secondary, Eugene Wilson was a nice suprise last season and the coaches are supposedly very high on Barber.

Either way, I don't see the Titans having the same type of season like last year and the Colts seem to be somewhat on the decline. I definitely see us making a very strong playoff push this season.
Summer Song Giver
03-02-2009, 05:29 PM
It's Molden and Amobi, sorry just irks me when our own fans misspell he players names.
dtowninyourtown
03-02-2009, 06:19 PM
im surprised so many are predicting us to go 10-6. Although after I saw the list of our opponents, I am also thinking we should win 10. 9 at the least
The Hunted
03-02-2009, 08:09 PM
It's Molden and Amobi, sorry just irks me when our own fans misspell he players names.


Sorry couldn't resist. :D
Mac#5
03-02-2009, 08:34 PM
Sorry couldn't resist. :D

Lol good one
EddieWasSnubbed
03-02-2009, 09:25 PM
I seem to guess high every year (last year, I think I guessed 9 wins), but this year, I can honestly see us winning 10 to 11 games, depending on how the draft pans out...
DonnyMost
03-02-2009, 09:30 PM
I seem to guess high every year (last year, I think I guessed 9 wins), but this year, I can honestly see us winning 10 to 11 games, depending on how the draft pans out...

If we're depending on rookies to get us over the hump... we ain't gettin over it
kaleidosky
03-02-2009, 11:45 PM
Schaub is healthy cause it's the off-season. Wait til the season starts. Boom!

I don't understand. Are you trying to make it "your thing"? Are you that desperate to be recognized on the board?

Or are you just paying homage to "Boom goes the dynamite" guy?
EddieWasSnubbed
03-03-2009, 04:49 AM
If we're depending on rookies to get us over the hump... we ain't gettin over it
I guess that's not really how I meant that. Depending on how much better the draft, free agency, and trades make us and more importantly, the teams we play...
Jturbofuel
03-04-2009, 10:39 AM
The where you finish in the standing part of the schedule is vastly overrated. It only means two games on the schedule and since we finished 3rd last year we will play 2 other 3rd place teams. Its not a big deal we will have a tough schedule as always but hopefully this year we won't have the first month on the road this year.
XBLRocketman111
03-04-2009, 01:37 PM
One of the best young defenses in the league? How did they come to that conclusion. MW and Demeco are pro bowlers and Antonio Smith and Dunta are solid starters, but the rest of the group ain't anything to write home about.

Just within the front 7, we could potentially stand to upgrade both DT spots and 2/3 LB spots. And then you have the secondary, which I'd say only Dunta is a certainty to be a starter on another team. I do like the young options at CB: Bennett and Moldin but they are very unproven. Our safeties do and have always sucked. Apologies to Eugene Wilson but he's not that good.

Maybe they meant best young offense in the league?

I guess you must be forgetting Zac Diles, who outplayed Demeco most of the year until he was hurt and when he was hurt Adibi filled in very nicely, we do have a good yound core.
justtxyank
03-04-2009, 01:39 PM
I guess you must be forgetting Zac Diles, who outplayed Demeco most of the year until he was hurt and when he was hurt Adibi filled in very nicely, we do have a good yound core.

We have some nice pieces, but on the whole our defense is not very good.
Baqui99
03-04-2009, 01:52 PM
Houston's secondary is atrocious. They need help in a big way. It seems like all the attention has been focused entirely on the D-line the last few years.
XBLRocketman111
03-04-2009, 02:09 PM
We have some nice pieces, but on the whole our defense is not very good.

Overall No, but you gotta look at going into this season!

DE: Mario and Smith With Cochran and bulman pushing them

DT: Johnson and Amobi, would't be suprised if we upgraded here although i could see bulman pushing johnson out of this spot. Bulman play with alot of heart!

LB: Ryans, Diles and Adibi are young and solid, Diles proved last year he could be very good. Adibi played well but you still have to be suspect! I could see us getting a linebacker here in the first round Maluaga (spelling) would be a good pick for us. and I would start him depending on Adibi's progress.

CB: Robinson, Reeves, Bennett, Molden: It's obvious to me Robinson needs some help, Reeves wasn't too bad even though the board was harsh on him.
I could also See us using our first round pick to get Vontae Davis, pending on how the draft lies but this should be a big concern. It would ease with a signing of shawne spring but you need to get another at least in the 2nd round.

Safties: Wilson, ferguson, Brown, Harrison, Barber: The rotating door at safety continues throw C.C. Brown back into the mix not really sure what your gonna get from the guys except Wilson played well near the end of the year. I could see us using a 4th round pick on a S but nothing higher......

Hope you guys liked my assesments, i would like to hear your opinions on it!
I know i left some players out IE Kevin Bentley but i wanted to make a list of potential players fighting for starting spots or back up spots
rezdawg
03-04-2009, 02:51 PM
Houston's secondary is atrocious. They need help in a big way. It seems like all the attention has been focused entirely on the D-line the last few years.

Its because it doesnt matter who you have in the secondary...if given time, the WR will always have an edge over the CB. Despite the attention to the DLine, we still cannot get good pressure on the QB. Until we address that situation, its too difficult to assess where we are with our secondary.

I can guarantee that our secondary, although not very solid, is still a lot better than they have shown, purely because the QB has all day to make a play. With an improved pass rush, our secondary will look a lot more competent.
Naija Texan
03-04-2009, 07:51 PM
It is both good and bad that our division rivals are worried about us.

But it isn't surprising that it is coming from a Colts fan, in both games last season the Texans could have won them had it not been for turn overs in the first and the defense failing to get critical stops in the second half of the game in Indy.
redgoose
03-04-2009, 09:21 PM
If we can upgrade our pass defense than we should have a shot at the playoffs. A quality pass rusher and a healthy Amobi should definitely help give the opposing QBs less time, but we still have to upgrade the entire secondary excluding Dunta Robinson. Unless there's a CB or safety i'm not thinking of that did a good job last year any of them should be considered replaceable.

Our running game did get better last year with Slaton emerging after our winless start, but i still think we need a complimentary power back for him to get our running game to the next level. Since Slaton was a 3rd round pick last year, i think we can find someone that fits in rounds 3-4. With our recent signing, i'm curious to see if we might go with a CB or O-Lineman with our 1st pick.
Baqui99
03-06-2009, 09:59 PM
Its because it doesnt matter who you have in the secondary...if given time, the WR will always have an edge over the CB. Despite the attention to the DLine, we still cannot get good pressure on the QB. Until we address that situation, its too difficult to assess where we are with our secondary.

I can guarantee that our secondary, although not very solid, is still a lot better than they have shown, purely because the QB has all day to make a play. With an improved pass rush, our secondary will look a lot more competent.

It doesn't help Houston's cause that there's not a single NFL starting caliber DB on the Texans roster. Dunta was decent, but injuries have slowed him.

Really, there's no reason why Houston can't upgrade both D-line and the secondary at the same time. The reason they're hamstrung is because of wasting 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd on Matt Schaub. Those picks could've easily been used to shore up weak spots. Then just sign a vet like Jon Kitna or something to play QB.
Wakko67
03-06-2009, 10:12 PM
It doesn't help Houston's cause that there's not a single NFL starting caliber DB on the Texans roster. Dunta was decent, but injuries have slowed him.

Really, there's no reason why Houston can't upgrade both D-line and the secondary at the same time. The reason they're hamstrung is because of wasting 2 2nd rounders and a 3rd on Matt Schaub. Those picks could've easily been used to shore up weak spots. Then just sign a vet like Jon Kitna or something to play QB.

We only gave up two second rounders, but have more than made up for them. Plus we got another fourth this year.

I would like to see us trade just a bit down and our fourth. Grab OLB Matthews and get another third. That would be awesome.

I really hope we can get some help in the secondary through the draft. A second back behind Steve would be great as well. Lastly the DT spots could use help, but hopefully new coaches will make it less than we think.