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H-Town Info
02-25-2009, 02:46 PM
http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d80ee7377&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true&icampaign=DW_Combine_wednesday

Are you kidding me? Guess he doesn't like Schaub...

Ric
02-25-2009, 02:59 PM
jeez... they ought to recommend davis take a vacation, or something - that's just silly.

rezdawg
02-25-2009, 03:52 PM
Lol, thats ridiculous.

If the Texans were that concerned with picking up a backup QB with their first round pick, then it would mean that we have probowlers at every other position on the field.

Cannonball
02-25-2009, 04:38 PM
No words can describe how much dumber I feel from reading that.

leroy420
02-25-2009, 04:51 PM
No words can describe how much dumber I feel from reading that.

my wordz eZactlie

Angkor Wat
02-25-2009, 04:51 PM
No words can describe how much dumber I feel from reading that.

Ok.....A simply "No" would have been fine but whatever.

Fulgore
02-25-2009, 05:58 PM
LMAO! That has to be a joke.Plus Sanchez wont last past the 10th pick anyway

Landlord Landry
02-25-2009, 06:06 PM
brian orakpo @ 3 to KC.....LOL!!

gucci888
02-25-2009, 11:41 PM
brian orakpo @ 3 to KC.....LOL!!

Only way I see this happening is if Stafford and Curry go #1 and #2.

Summer Song Giver
02-26-2009, 08:32 AM
I would love to move up for Curry, wonder what we could package with #15 to go up that far, two thirds, this year and next?

nWo34Life
02-26-2009, 08:51 AM
I would love to move up for Curry, wonder what we could package with #15 to go up that far, two thirds, this year and next?

According to the draft slot scale:

#1, 3000 points
#2, 2600 points
#3, 2200 points
#4, 1800 points
#5, 1700 points

He's projected to go at one of those slots. The Texans would have to give up a lot to move up that far. I doubt he'll fall to #5. If he did, then would have to give up #15, #47, and #79 to come close.

We have dire needs at DE, DB, OLB, and RB. I wouldn't want to waste my picks on him, even though he's a beast. Plus, with the house cleaning their doing, I can't wait to see who they pick in the draft and FA to compliment the weapons we have already.

rezdawg
02-26-2009, 09:00 AM
I would love to move up for Curry, wonder what we could package with #15 to go up that far, two thirds, this year and next?

As great as Curry is, we'd need to give up potential starters at DE, DB, and DT in order to get him.

Thats too much.

Dennis2112
02-26-2009, 09:07 AM
You know, after reading all the entries, It looks like he actually did his homework on every team but the Texans.

Its like he threw a dart at the wall and wrote about whatever it hit on the wall.

TheBigAristotle
02-26-2009, 09:12 AM
How about Favre?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The Cat
02-26-2009, 09:26 AM
How about Favre?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Well, if we get Favre, it would be with the intention of making him the starter. After all, several of our resident experts told me before the year that I was insane for expecting Schaub to outperform Favre for this season, so surely that couldn't have actually happened. ;)

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=151090&page=2
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=141624&page=19

MadMax
02-26-2009, 09:31 AM
Well, if we get Favre, it would be with the intention of making him the starter. After all, several of our resident experts told me before the year that I was insane for expecting Schaub to outperform Favre for this season, so surely that couldn't have actually happened. ;)

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=151090&page=2
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=141624&page=19

Please don't ever confuse me with an expert. Thanks.

Landlord Landry
02-26-2009, 09:38 AM
Only way I see this happening is if Stafford and Curry go #1 and #2.

IDK, I don't think Stafford is anywhere near KC's radar. Curry though, I'm worried about that guy now, since the new Kansas City regime is switching to a 3-4 and Curry struggled big time in a 3-4 set.

I wouldn't mind seeing Orakpo in a KC uni.....actually, yes I would. But I def. wouldn't take him @ #3. He has Tamba Hali written all over him.

The Cat
02-26-2009, 09:41 AM
Please don't ever confuse me with an expert. Thanks.

Haha, come on, I wasn't talking about you. :) There's no doubt it was a legitimate question/debate at the time. I was just referring to a couple of people who essentially made me out to be a complete homer for even suggesting that Schaub would be better. (Ironically, one of them was even celebrating his being right after Week 2 of the season... funny how that turned out. :p)

MadMax
02-26-2009, 09:43 AM
Haha, come on, I wasn't talking about you. :) There's no doubt it was a legitimate question/debate at the time. I was just referring to a couple of people who essentially made me out to be a complete homer for even suggesting that Schaub would be better. (Ironically, one of them was even celebrating his being right after Week 2 of the season... funny how that turned out. :p)

I should have put a smilie...I was just kidding.

There's the smilie :)

Naija Texan
02-26-2009, 10:08 AM
I always wonder if fans of other NFL teams find their teams constantly paired with ridiculous mock draft picks by individuals who don't seem to recognize the issues their team has.

Most I've seen kept having us take a CB in the first, when we desperately need a safety and now a QB just because we are losing our back up. I don't know if they just think our team is sure to trade down and are throwing out dummy picks or if they are just very little knowledge about certain teams and are just placing the high end speculated draft picks in probable positions.

msn
02-26-2009, 10:41 AM
I always wonder if fans of other NFL teams find their teams constantly paired with ridiculous mock draft picks by individuals who don't seem to recognize the issues their team has.
An astute question, indeed.

gucci888
02-26-2009, 12:04 PM
IDK, I don't think Stafford is anywhere near KC's radar. Curry though, I'm worried about that guy now, since the new Kansas City regime is switching to a 3-4 and Curry struggled big time in a 3-4 set.

I wouldn't mind seeing Orakpo in a KC uni.....actually, yes I would. But I def. wouldn't take him @ #3. He has Tamba Hali written all over him.

I don't think KC would pass on Stafford if he's somehow still on the board. They need defense but they also need a QB really bad. Also, when has Curry played in a 3-4 set? I know Wake Forest played a 4-3 and I thought the Senior Bowl played the same set.

KC has a ton of holes, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Trading Jared Allen was a big mistake on their part, and it showed when they gave up the 2nd most yards last season. If Stafford/Curry are off the board, I see them going with the next best defensive player, that's Orakpo IMO.

But if you don't see Stafford, Curry, or Orakpo going to KC at #3, who do you think they'd pick?

H-Town Info
02-26-2009, 01:12 PM
I don't think KC would pass on Stafford if he's somehow still on the board. They need defense but they also need a QB really bad. Also, when has Curry played in a 3-4 set? I know Wake Forest played a 4-3 and I thought the Senior Bowl played the same set.

KC has a ton of holes, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Trading Jared Allen was a big mistake on their part, and it showed when they gave up the 2nd most yards last season. If Stafford/Curry are off the board, I see them going with the next best defensive player, that's Orakpo IMO.

But if you don't see Stafford, Curry, or Orakpo going to KC at #3, who do you think they'd pick?

I see KC going for either Curry, Monroe, or Stafford if available. 95% college teams don't run 3-4, thats why it's hard to gauge DEs and OLBs to the 3-4. Curry can do any position b/c he's just that good. He's best suited for the 4-3 SAM LB since he can stop the run/rush the passer/cover the TE and FB. I think Jason Smith is probably going #1 to Detroit and I wouldn't mind seeing Stafford at #3. But, I wouldn't be surprised they get Monroe to pair with last year's pick in Brandon Albert to form a great O-line. You guys remember earlier this decade with Willie Roaf, Will Shields, Casey Wiegmann, and Brian Waters. That O-line paved the way for Priest Holmes for many yard and TDs and Green to pass for some 4K yards years. Finally, I think Thigpen has some talent and the new regime should at least give him at chance to start again.

Cannonball
02-26-2009, 01:37 PM
I always trust local opinion more than national opinion. No matter the sport, the national media has to keep up with 30+ teams. Even though they act like know it all's, there's no way they're going to know as much about the Rockets/Astros/Texans as the well versed fan or local media.

Still, some in the national media are more informed than others. It's painfully obvious that Charles Davis has no clue about the state of the Texans if he thinks we're going to spend our first round pick on a player we intend to be a backup. As if we don't have a need for starters at other positions. Somebody like that, who doesn't have a grasp of the needs of ALL teams, shouldn't be making mock drafts.

Landlord Landry
02-26-2009, 04:18 PM
I don't think KC would pass on Stafford if he's somehow still on the board. They need defense but they also need a QB really bad. Also, when has Curry played in a 3-4 set? I know Wake Forest played a 4-3 and I thought the Senior Bowl played the same set.

KC has a ton of holes, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Trading Jared Allen was a big mistake on their part, and it showed when they gave up the 2nd most yards last season. If Stafford/Curry are off the board, I see them going with the next best defensive player, that's Orakpo IMO.

But if you don't see Stafford, Curry, or Orakpo going to KC at #3, who do you think they'd pick?

Perhaps I wrote that incorrectly, nonetheless.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/11399393

Curry produced only 2.5 sacks as a senior, numbers characterized by some as one of the few reasons to be concerned about the All-American. That might be especially true of 3-4 teams.

To quell those concerns, Curry has been working on his speed and explosiveness at API, adding new drills to prep work established while he was at Wake Forest.

"That's the thing about working under coach Lambert," Curry said. "He made sure that I was going to have the versatility to play any linebacker position. I'm prepared to play the middle or the MAC in the 3-4. I've played the WILL and the SAM in the 4-3. I have the versatility and I'm coachable. I'm willing to learn a new defense and a new style of play. I like to be coached."

If Curry is off the board, regardless of Stafford and Orakpo still being there, I wouldn't mind seeing a number of players taken.....BJ Raji, Ray Malugula(sp?), Micheal Johnson, Eugene Monroe, Andre Smith, Everett Brown etc....

The Kansas City Chiefs have never been a team to draft QB's high or draft them well, but I could see Pioli/Haley going after a QB and trying to hit a homerun in their first draft, just not on Stafford, he already has alot of question marks. The Chiefs have Thigpen who developed nicely under Chan Gailey and Gailey survived the Herm cleansing. The Chiefs still have Quinn Grey and Brodie Croyle, while none of those names will blow you away, it's not a BAD trio. IDK dude, KC has so many defensive holes now, and switching to a 3-4 .....I can't see Glenn Dorsey playing nose tackle....I'm pretty sure we are looking at a defensive pick.

R0cketC1ty123
02-26-2009, 07:11 PM
make schaub a back up get rex grossman

nWo34Life
02-26-2009, 07:12 PM
make schaub a back up get rex grossman

You're funny.

Summer Song Giver
02-26-2009, 07:19 PM
make schaub a back up get rex grossman

Wow, I agree, but would like to add...

Get Jevon Kearse and make Mario a backup
Get Marvin Harrison and make Andre a backup
Get Zach Thomas and make Demeco a backup
Get Ephraim Salaam back and make Winston a backup
Get Phillip Buchanan and make Dunta a backup
Get Warrick Dunn and make Slaton a backup

And just one more, Get.....wait for it, the phuq outta here???

H-Town Info
02-27-2009, 12:19 AM
Todd McShay from ESPN had also penciled in Sanchez to Houston...

moestavern19
02-27-2009, 12:23 AM
per espn...

Houston Texans

Who will be Matt Schaub's new backup once the Sage Rosenfels trade to Minnesota goes through? How about Chris Simms? The Titans free agent could land a better offer with a better chance to start. But he's college pals with Houston coordinator Kyle Shanahan, which could make for a match.



LMAO.

Please God let this happen, that will truly drive the remaining UT honks to become Titan fans.

Landlord Landry
02-27-2009, 01:09 AM
per espn...

Houston Texans

Who will be Matt Schaub's new backup once the Sage Rosenfels trade to Minnesota goes through? How about Chris Simms? The Titans free agent could land a better offer with a better chance to start. But he's college pals with Houston coordinator Kyle Shanahan, which could make for a match.



LMAO.

Please God let this happen, that will truly drive the remaining UT honks to become Titan fans.

they have each others initals tattooed on their bodies. I say they are more than college pals.

Nashvegas
02-27-2009, 07:06 AM
After the FA's who will be starters (Warner, Collins, maybe Garcia)

Simms and Leftwich are probably the best of the bunch.
Leftwich probably resigns in Pittsburgh if he can't find a team
that gives him a shot at starting.

Simms is capable of filling in for Schaub if he gets injured again.
Sure he doesn't handle criticism well but under Shanahan it could be
the perfect place for him. He's got the physical tools.

I'd definitely be happier with Simms than Grossmam
or Boller.

leroy420
02-27-2009, 02:21 PM
Apparently, Charles Davis isn't the only one who thinks it's possible...

2009 NFL Mock Draft (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3939151&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft09%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dmcshay_todd%26id%3d3939151)

15. Houston Texans (8-8): Mark Sanchez*, QB, USC
This is obviously a bit of a surprise selection. However, Texans starter Matt Schaub has had some durability issues and the Texans just sent backup Sage Rosenfels packing. Sanchez would be a great value at this point in the first round, and his inexperience would not be a factor because the Texans have the time to develop him properly as a backup early in his career.

Cannonball
02-27-2009, 02:29 PM
Apparently, Charles Davis isn't the only one who thinks it's possible...

Idiocy must be contagious.

The Cat
02-27-2009, 02:44 PM
per espn...

Houston Texans

Who will be Matt Schaub's new backup once the Sage Rosenfels trade to Minnesota goes through? How about Chris Simms? The Titans free agent could land a better offer with a better chance to start. But he's college pals with Houston coordinator Kyle Shanahan, which could make for a match.



LMAO.

Please God let this happen, that will truly drive the remaining UT honks to become Titan fans.

Actually, the ultimate LMAO would be what might be happening right now.

Source: Titans increase efforts to re-sign Simms
By: Terry McCormick, tmccormick@nashvillecitypaper.com
Posted: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:00 am

With the Tennessee Titans and Kerry Collins far apart as the free agency period opens Friday, club officials apparently are ramping up efforts to re-sign their other free agent quarterback, Chris Simms, according to league sources.

Collins is believed to be seeking a deal in excess of $8 million per season, and the Titans are believed not to be interested in such a sum at the current time....As Simms heads to the open market, there have been rumors of other teams having interest in him, including the Houston Texans, Chicago Bears and Dallas Cowboys.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/news.php?viewStory=66431

You know Fisher's not going to turn over the keys of that team to VY. So, if Collins leaves and Simms re-signs, it's probably Simms' team. Sure, they'll call it a "competition" to soothe Vince's fragile ego, but you know it wouldn't honestly be. And you'd be left with the arrogant, looney tunes-wing of UT casual fans crying about how Simms' daddy paid off another coach and took away another job from one of their heroes.

Now that I'd love to see.

Wooderson
02-27-2009, 03:47 PM
Now that Collins has re-signed to be the starting QB for Tennessee for the next two years, I would be very interested in seeing if we could get their backup QB from UT...Simms!!!

As for drafting Sanchez with the first pick...yeah, I don't think that "surprise pick" accurately describes that line of thinking. Maybe they can find us a good replacement for Steve Slaton in the second round.

gucci888
02-27-2009, 03:59 PM
Now that Collins has re-signed to be the starting QB for Tennessee for the next two years, I would be very interested in seeing if we could get their backup QB from UT...Simms!!!


We just picked up Ramsey so I doubt we go for another veteran backup.

redgoose
03-01-2009, 04:07 AM
Haven't these mock draft experts realized by now your almost better off taking a QB in the later rounds and giving them a few years to develop rather than throwing them in the fire? :confused:

I'd be ticked off if we drafted Sanchez even if he was available rather than filling a need now when we're on the verge of becoming a playoff team. Not to mention i was never that keen on Sanchez. :(