Texans Draft Needs

[Mac#5]

Head coach Gary Kubiak told the media Friday at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis that the Texans are determined to improve their pass rush this offseason. Smith discusses Robinson Kubiak talks draft needs

Kubiak also talks about the possibility of moving mario to the left and also the possibility of moving demeco to a diffirent linebacker position. he talks about the good drafts theyve had in the past and how the new coaches will do and what we can expect.

I think our biggest need is a pass rusher opposite mario. and a Defensive back wether its a corner or safety (preferably safety) and a running back to complement Slaton. If we would get a corner i would like alphonso smith from wake forest. altho he is a little undersized i think he can be realy good esspecialy if we can pick him up in the second round.

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[Republic]

Head coach Gary Kubiak told the media Friday at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis that the Texans are determined to improve their pass rush this offseason. Smith discusses Robinson Kubiak talks draft needs

Kubiak also talks about the possibility of moving mario to the left and also the possibility of moving demeco to a diffirent linebacker position. he talks about the good drafts theyve had in the past and how the new coaches will do and what we can expect.

I think our biggest need is a pass rusher opposite mario. and a Defensive back wether its a corner or safety (preferably safety) and a running back to complement Slaton. If we would get a corner i would like alphonso smith from wake forest. altho he is a little undersized i think he can be realy good esspecialy if we can pick him up in the second round.

It is for this reason, I can't get excited over the Texan draft. It generally takes defensive guys a couple of years before they become something worth being excited over. So, eh...okay. So we'll draft defensive guys...yippee?

[desihooper]

Beware of smokescreens this time of year!!

Mario on the left side makes more sense b/c he's so big and can stand up to the double teams and also opens up the possibility of drafting a smaller, lighter DE to be a speed rusher (something Mario is not) on the right side (Orakpo, Maybin, and Everett).

On DeMeco, I guess that means they'd be open to drafting a MLB in the first round (Ray Maualuga at 15 or maybe James Laurinaitis if we move down) or even an OLB (like Cushing) if that's what it takes.

Well played by Kubiak, informative but not giving out too much.

[DieHard Rocket]

It is for this reason, I can't get excited over the Texan draft. It generally takes defensive guys a couple of years before they become something worth being excited over. So, eh...okay. So we'll draft defensive guys...yippee?

So you'd rather us draft "exciting" offensive players and let our defense continue to suck? Would you rather us have taken Bush a couple years ago instead of Mario?

It does take a lot of defenders longer, but not always. Just look at what DeMeco Ryans did his first year here.

[gucci888]

It is for this reason, I can't get excited over the Texan draft. It generally takes defensive guys a couple of years before they become something worth being excited over. So, eh...okay. So we'll draft defensive guys...yippee?

So you'd rather pass on good defensive players just because it take them a couple years to get you excited? For the Texans alone, guys like DeMeco, Bennett, Diles, and Adibi have all been pretty good their 1st/2nd years.

As for other defensive players (drafted mid-1st round) like Keith Rivers, Mayo, Rodgers-Cromartie, Laron Landry, Patrick Willis, Revis, Ngata, Cromartie, etc...have all been very good players very early in their careers.

[Wakko67]

It is for this reason, I can't get excited over the Texan draft. It generally takes defensive guys a couple of years before they become something worth being excited over. So, eh...okay. So we'll draft defensive guys...yippee?

Ok, but even by your logic you should be getting psyched to see Molden come into shape this year and Adibi and Diles round into form too.

That also means we may finally start seeing big things from Okoye!

[rhino17]

It is for this reason, I can't get excited over the Texan draft. It generally takes defensive guys a couple of years before they become something worth being excited over. So, eh...okay. So we'll draft defensive guys...yippee?

When they drafted Mario it wasn't exciting?
How bout When Demeco won DROY and has made a few pro bowls?
Fred Bennett came into the lineup halfway through his rookie season and played fantastic, but not exciting? Same for Adibi this year?

Not sure what else you could ask for. Pretty much every defensive player they draft has made an impact from the getgo

[Wakko67]

Heads up ladies. There is a blog on BSPN about who we are looking at. They talk about Orakpo (I hope he falls to 15) and linebacker Matthew Jr from USC and his interest in Houston.

These are two positions we need. It'd be nice to grab them both.

myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation?tag=09%20combine (http://)

[Naija Texan]

The first two rounds the Texans should and need to draft a DE or DT or Safety.

We are dangerously thin in the FS position on our team and we have needed someone that can provide a solid pass rush opposite Mario Williams since 2006.

After that, we should draft a compliment RB for Slaton and some offensive line depth. Other then that potential draft picks include maybe a tight end (if we lose Dressen), linebacker, corner back and maybe a quarterback.

[Mac#5]

Heads up ladies. There is a blog on BSPN about who we are looking at. They talk about Orakpo (I hope he falls to 15) and linebacker Matthew Jr from USC and his interest in Houston.

These are two positions we need. It'd be nice to grab them both.

myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation?tag=09%20combine (http://)

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[Mac#5]

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[Wakko67]

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Fixed it

Thanks.

[Republic]

So you'd rather us draft "exciting" offensive players and let our defense continue to suck?

Where did I say this?

[Republic]

That also means we may finally start seeing big things from Okoye!

Wouldn't that be something?!?

[Republic]

When they drafted Mario it wasn't exciting?

No. It still isn't. He's a good, solid player and all but it isn't exciting.

How bout When Demeco won DROY and has made a few pro bowls?
Fred Bennett came into the lineup halfway through his rookie season and played fantastic, but not exciting? Same for Adibi this year?

Those are all nice surprises. Keyword = surprises.

Not sure what else you could ask for. Pretty much every defensive player they draft has made an impact from the getgo

As they are on the field 90% of the time, let's hope those impacts remain positive!

(just kidding)

[RocketFan007]

I'm intrigued by Kubiak's comments regarding free agency, it sounds like we might be ready to make a splash.

[Wakko67]

I'm intrigued by Kubiak's comments regarding free agency, it sounds like we might be ready to make a splash.

What did he say?

[conquistador#11]

we all know the needs, and we must cover all of them, whatever it takes.. even if we have to trade down for more picks. stockpile dem' picks. :)

[DieHard Rocket]

Where did I say this?

Well you seemed to imply that you'd rather us draft "exciting" players regardless of whether they are on offense or defense, and then said that defensive players take a while to come into their own...which would lead me to believe you'd rather see us draft an "exciting" offensive player.

I'm always excited about the draft, especially with this regime, because we're going to improve the team. I could care less whether our picks are "sexy"; I was very pleased last year to trade down for Duane Brown and pick up an extra third rounder. I could actually see that happening again if the perfect DE or OLB isn't there when we pick.

[Wooderson]

I'd like to see Defense addressed all four picks on day one. Wait - we still do have our fourth round pick, right?

I'm hoping for a solid pass-rushing option on the D-line opposite of Mario or an OLB who can put pressure on the QB.

If it looks like there are some good options in those categories between picks 20 and 25, I wouldn't mind trading down to try to snag another pick in a later round.

I hope we don't go after any offensive players before the 5th round at the earliest.

[Republic]

Well you seemed to imply

No I didn't. I'm a Texan. I don't imply things. I say them.

...which would lead me to believe you'd rather see us draft an "exciting" offensive player.

Or perhaps an exciting player? (which is what I said) Not sure why you're assuming offense is the only thing that can be exciting. In any event, did you ever consider that I don't think anyone in this year's draft (that fits our needs anyway) is exciting? Will there be solid players? Yeah, a few. That's it, nothing really to be excited over. Take your assumptions and apply them elsewhere. This is an "average but serviceable" draft for the Texans. Period. In my book, that isn't exciting. And not for nothing, but I don't refer to football players as "sexy". Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.

[DieHard Rocket]

Not sure why you're assuming offense is the only thing that can be exciting.

Because you flat out said in your first post that you weren't excited about the draft because defensive players take long to develop, and say how you are not excited about the draft, which any logical person would believe that it's not exciting to you to draft defensive players...

In any event, did you ever consider that I don't think anyone in this year's draft (that fits our needs anyway) is exciting?

You didn't say it, and you don't imply things since you're "a Texan", so how could I consider it?

Will there be solid players? Yeah, a few. That's it, nothing really to be excited over. Take your assumptions and apply them elsewhere. This is an "average but serviceable" draft for the Texans. Period. In my book, that isn't exciting.

There is no way you can look at a draft, especially in the NFL, and say it's average, above average, or poor. Every year there are players that were under the radar in college either at small school's or just weren't in ESPN's hype machine that become big-time rookies in the NFL. Third and fourth round draft picks, guys that teams past over multiple times, can become rookie of the year nominees and pro bowl alternates. You don't have to be excited about the draft but you can't write it off just by saying the Texans won't find anything more than "serviceable" players.

[Chamillionaire]

offensine line
defense back (S, CB) in that order
a legit second receiver and another RB
and a QB who can win a la mannings, brady

[Egghead]

If BJ Raji is there when the Texans select, we need to get him. Pairing him along side Okoye. would be insane. It would be similar to what Jacksonville had in Marcus Stroud and Johnathan Henderson.

[gucci888]

If BJ Raji is there when the Texans select, we need to get him. Pairing him along side Okoye. would be insane. It would be similar to what Jacksonville had in Marcus Stroud and Johnathan Henderson.

Raji wouldn't be a bad pick depending on who else is available. Kubiak has mentioned many times that they're wanting to get a big DT to pair with Okoye. While Raji has a ton of bulk (323 lbs.), he isn't all that tall (6'2") especially considering that Amobi is 6'1"-6'2" himself.

Stround and Henderson are 6'6" and 6'7" respectively, that's ridiculous size for 2 interior lineman.

[Wakko67]

offensine line
defense back (S, CB) in that order
a legit second receiver and another RB
and a QB who can win a la mannings, brady

Are you talking about the Texans or.......... the Lions?

We need a DE in the first.
Secondary guy.....uh...second.
Another LB.
Back up to Slaton.
Back up to Schaub.

[Republic]

Because you flat out said in your first post that you weren't excited about the draft because defensive players take long to develop

The defensive players in THIS draft. No one excites me. In my opinion, there isn't a Mario to be found.

[Mac#5]

The defensive players in THIS draft. No one excites me. In my opinion, there isn't a Mario to be found.

You kno damm well u werent excited about mario cuz nobody was

[Mac#5]

Are you talking about the Texans or.......... the Lions?

We need a DE in the first.
Secondary guy.....uh...second.
Another LB.
Back up to Slaton.
Back up to Schaub.

I think the back up to shaub is gonna be alex brink who we drafted in the 7th last year... if the texans are willing to give up sage for anything less than a second its because Brink must be doing progressing pretty good

[Republic]

You kno damm well u werent excited about mario cuz nobody was

That's correct. I also didn't say I was excited about Mario. I'm saying there isn't even a D player that warrants that type of attention. To me, it seems most of the D players at the "top" this year require the famous "if he lands in the right situation, he can be a solid player" disclaimer attached to them. I don't see any "that guy will be a major impact wherever he goes" guys. Then again, I'm open to the fact I may be missing something. I haven't shifted gears into football draft analysis too much ;)

[Mac#5]

That's correct. I also didn't say I was excited about Mario. I'm saying there isn't even a D player that warrants that type of attention. To me, it seems most of the D players at the "top" this year require the famous "if he lands in the right situation, he can be a solid player" disclaimer attached to them. I don't see any "that guy will be a major impact wherever he goes" guys. Then again, I'm open to the fact I may be missing something. I haven't shifted gears into football draft analysis too much ;)

whatever... be a man n just admit u were wrong all i see is ur posts BS all down this thread