O.k. considering all (price, selection, etc.) which is best Playstation 2 or Dreamcas [Archive]

Christopher

01-20-2001, 12:10 PM

If you want sport games go with the PS2. EA Sports have put ALOT of time and effort into the PS2. Madden 2001 is by far and away the best NFL game ever and Im sure NBA Live will blow the competition out of the water also. Fifa is terrific (and Im not even a soccer fan) and is SSX.

Looking at the overall package Song has the developers, has the hype (A big factor, its means they sell like hot cakes!) and they have the history.

Trust me you want the best system get a PS2. If you dont you'll regret it.

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Dr of Dunk

01-20-2001, 12:45 PM

Get a PS2... more game selection, better graphics, and if you like football games, nothing beats Madden 2001 from what I'm hearing...

eagerly awaiting release of NBA Live 2001...

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Steve_Francis_rules

01-20-2001, 02:44 PM

Crisco, you lost all credibility with me when you said NBA Live has always sucked. I guess I should go with a PS2 like I had originally planned.

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CriscoKidd

01-20-2001, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Steve_Francis_rules:
Crisco, you lost all credibility with me when you said NBA Live has always sucked. I guess I should go with a PS2 like I had originally planned.



OK, shell out 500 bucks on a PS2 cuz someone thinks NBA Live and all of EA's games are boring. Whatever.

I've played just about every NBA game out there, and NBA2k1 is the only one that I have wanted to buy in years. Hell, even my wife, someone who has never liked playing sports games, enjoys it.

DVau, yeah, the Dreamcast controllers were weird at first, but after a few days I got used to it.

I probably will end up getting another system too, PS2 most likely, cuz I like RPGs and Square will still be making them by the boatload, but I am going to wait a few years till the price goes down and there is a good selection of games.

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Steve_Francis_rules

01-20-2001, 03:47 PM

Crisco, I didn't mean that I would buy a PS2 only because you don't like NBA Live. What I meant was that since that's always been my second favorite game, and you don't like it anyway, you wouldn't be the best person to advise me on which system has better games.

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rimbaud

01-20-2001, 04:12 PM

Just to let you know - all of the reviews of Live 2001 for ps2 have been lukewarm. Summary:

Great graphics
no franchise mose
serious gameplay problems (slow button response, inability to rebound, etc).

Most have said NBA 2K1 was better.

Madden was better looking than NFL 2K1, but is not as good in the gameplay department, either.

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Dr of Dunk

01-20-2001, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by CriscoKidd:
PS2 = more game selection?

I don't think so with all of their what? 8 games? Maybe in a year or two that claim could be made, but right now all they have is Madden and Tekken Tag. Weak.


The PS2 also plays Playstation One games so yes, they have more than "8".

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Dr of Dunk

01-20-2001, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by R0ckets03:
Wait for Nintendos Game Cube to come out in September. That thing is going to propell Nintendo past PS2 again.



So when the Game Cube comes out what will you be telling us to wait for then? http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif

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Dr of Dunk

01-20-2001, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by CriscoKidd:
OK, shell out 500 bucks on a PS2 cuz someone thinks NBA Live and all of EA's games are boring. Whatever.


Why? Just shell out $299 when they're available in larger quantities. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Steve_Francis_rules

01-20-2001, 05:49 PM

There is no way I would pay anywhere near $500 for a PS2. I'm probably going to wait until the price goes down a little anyway.

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CriscoKidd

01-20-2001, 08:24 PM

Oh, I can dig it SF. I guess I was feelin a little snippy today, it's like im surf or sumthin. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif The sports games on DC really do kick ass though. You should rent the system or hog the Best Buy demo area like me and my wife did and have some fun.

DoD, see I already have the PS1, so getting a PS2 for 2 good games and 10 garbage ones would make little sense for me. But for someone like you who hasn't had a console since Pong, yeah, I think that would definitely be a good move for you.

BTW, I just got a kick-ass RPG for my PS, and 2 quality games for my DC out of the bargain bin for 50 bucks.

HELL YEAH!!

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01-20-2001, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by CriscoKidd:

BTW, I just got a kick-ass RPG for my PS, and 2 quality games for my DC out of the bargain bin for 50 bucks.

HELL YEAH!!



Which RPG?

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CriscoKidd

01-20-2001, 08:50 PM

Vagrant story.

It's been on "my list" for a while now. And I still have to play Legend of Legaia and Grandia. LOL. But I'm almost through Xenogears. I almost got Eternal for Dreamcast for 11 bucks, but I decided against cuz I didn't know much about it and the last time I bought something I didn't know I ended up with Saga Frontier(ick!).

I've been meaning to ask, you're an RPG nut aren't you Fade?

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Steve_Francis_rules

01-20-2001, 09:11 PM

Not a problem Crisco, we all have days like that. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif

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Lewie221

01-20-2001, 09:57 PM

Dreamcast all the way...Nba 2k1 and NFL2k1 are the most fun games, and playing on the internet makes it even all that better!!!

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fadeaway

01-20-2001, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by CriscoKidd:
Vagrant story.

It's been on "my list" for a while now. And I still have to play Legend of Legaia and Grandia. LOL. But I'm almost through Xenogears. I almost got Eternal for Dreamcast for 11 bucks, but I decided against cuz I didn't know much about it and the last time I bought something I didn't know I ended up with Saga Frontier(ick!).

I've been meaning to ask, you're an RPG nut aren't you Fade?



Sure am! I'm old school, baby, stemming back from the original Dragon Warrior. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/cool.gif

I wasn't too impressed with Vagrant Story. It was a fairly good romp, but the play mechanics fudged things up too bad. Hitting bosses for only 1-5 points of damage per swing and driving yourself crazy trying to keep those combat chains going got pretty stressful after a while.

Nevertheless, it had a cool ending and Sydney is a kick-ass character, so finish it if you can.

Xenogears, on the other hand, is one of my all-time favorites. The story (all 900000 pages of it :P ) is awesome, and it's just a really fun game. It's long though, approximately 75 hours.

I have a stack of about 15 RPGs, mostly burned copies, that I haven't touched yet (Valkerie Profile, Grandia, Koudelka, etc..). I just finished Final Fantasy 9 and I think Lunar 2 is next on my list.

BTW, Saga Frontier wasn't that bad.. The idea of 7 different quests is sort of neat. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif

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R0ckets03

01-21-2001, 01:16 AM

Wait for Nintendos Game Cube to come out in September. That thing is going to propell Nintendo past PS2 again.

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CriscoKidd

01-21-2001, 01:27 AM

PS2 = more game selection?

I don't think so with all of their what? 8 games? Maybe in a year or two that claim could be made, but right now all they have is Madden and Tekken Tag. Weak.

NFL2K1 is much more fun than Madden ****.

And NBA Live has always sucked.

Oh, and if Nintendo can ever decide to get people to make a few more games other than ****ty platform games maybe they'll actually end up with a decent system. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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stringthing

01-21-2001, 01:27 AM

Hands down NBA 2K1 is simply the best basketball game ever produced on ANY system. Period.

The fact that the PS2 plays PS1 games is not a selling point for me since it was the crappy graphics on the PS1 that motivated me to buy the 'Cast.

After having seen the PS2 and its initial games I am less than blown away, and the price makes it an easy choice. Dreamcast by a long shot, not even close.

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DVauthrin

01-21-2001, 01:53 AM

ive played madden 2001 for ps2 and i was blown away by the graphics..there are some minor kinks in the game..esp on stopping the run but its a great game and i dont like the confusing dreamcast controller..my personal opinion..ps2

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vj23k

01-21-2001, 07:53 PM

NBA live is good. better than all the 64 basketball games. i have only played NBA 2K1 for a like five minutes, it was good but i like live 2000 more. and 2001 should be even better with all the internet options and everything.

I love the MJ 1-on-1 thing.

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Christopher

01-21-2001, 09:43 PM

how many systems have sega made that have been dead after one year?

Anyway if you want th best system you have to shell out for a PS2. Please dont complain to this Aussie who had to pay $750 for his system. I feel it was worth it though. You can play off of your old game, DVD's and the the bests sports games avalible will be on the PS2. You also know it wont end up being a system that will be dead very soon. I have a feeling the DC is slowly heading that way and I have a gut feeling the new Nintendo system will also find fans less then frenzied as they have been about the PS2.

I think in a years time the debate about which system is better the PS2 or dreamcast wont be an issue. Sony will still have a vfiable system. i dont think you'll be able to say the same about sega. they should stick to developing games and forget about making systems in my opinion.

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SmeggySmeg

01-21-2001, 10:00 PM

Atari with River Raid

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ROXRAN

01-21-2001, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by SmeggySmeg:
Atari with River Raid



Very funny http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Hobbs

01-22-2001, 11:07 AM

Dreamcast is the far superior buy at this point.

Even if there are no more games produced for it (and there will be--Phantasy Star Online, Crazy Taxi 2, etc.), there is a library of excellent titles already available in all categories of games. So, that defeats the "Sega deserts their consoles" argument. Not to mention it has a very good internet presence that is expanding daily (literally dozens of games with internet play and a broadband adaptor). And of course, you can get a dreamcast, an extra controller, a memory card (VMU-which is a great invention in itself) and several games before you hit the price for the PS2 alone.

The PS2 is an overpriced scourge at the moment. Eventually, there will be good games for it, but it is not a huge advancement on the Dreamcast. By the time it might be considered one (and there is no guarantee it ever gets there), it will be surpassed by 2 other consoles.

If you want the next big thing, wait for the X-Box or the Gamecube, as they will be a huge advancement. If you want great games now, buy the Dreamcast or go real cheap and get a PSOne.

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Rocket River

01-22-2001, 11:52 AM

I had yet see anything that beats
COMBAT on the Atari
[It was simple and fun]

But to today. I cannot be waiting
for Xbox or GameCube or whatever

I think I will check out the PS2
but I gotta wait til the price comes
down.

I like sports games so This excitement
about DreamCast is intriguing me.

Rocket River
what is the price on DC?

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Christopher

01-22-2001, 05:10 PM

EA Sports makes the best sports games. EA Sports has put alot of effort into the PS2.

You want sports go with the PS2 :-)

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outlaw

01-26-2001, 02:13 PM

Sega is thinking about stopping production of the dreamcast and focusing on developing games for Sony and Nintendo.

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Steve_Francis_rules

01-26-2001, 04:55 PM

That would be terrible for owners of the dreamcast.

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fadeaway

01-26-2001, 05:02 PM

Sega isn't just thinking about it, they have pretty much guaranteed that the Dreamcast will be their last console system.

Dreamcast owners need not worry. Sega will continue to support it throughout its lifespan (about 2 more years).

After that, Sega will be devoting all their energy towards software.

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Steve_Francis_rules

01-26-2001, 08:23 PM

ok, that at least keeps the dreamcast open as a possibility for me.

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fadeaway

01-26-2001, 08:35 PM

Yeah, I'm planning on buying a Dreamcast in a year or so, when the price goes down again.

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CriscoKidd

01-26-2001, 09:05 PM

I can't wait to get Phantasy Star Online next month!!!

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DUDE

01-26-2001, 09:28 PM

I like the ability to play DVDs on the PS2. Madden looks GREAT on it, and I am sure NBA LIVE 2001 will too. Games are right around the corner. I think that in another few months there will be more PS2 games that it will surprise people on the amount AND quality of games available.

I have read ONE bad thing about NBA LIVE 2001 for PS2 though, apparently it doesnt have the Franchise Mode. (ability to play multiple seasons, etc..) It should be out this week so I will be getting it for sure!

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fadeaway

01-26-2001, 09:50 PM

Hey.. has anyone played Skies of Arcadia yet?

I heard it rules.

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Mango

01-27-2001, 01:57 AM

Here is a story about the forthcoming xbox.

http://www.gamers.com/news/526674

Mango

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Hobbs

01-27-2001, 11:12 AM

Skies of Arcadia is great. Around 50 hours of playing time to beat it. Lots of depth, a good mix of linear and non-linear story elements, great graphics.

Definitely one to get.

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Steve_Francis_rules

01-27-2001, 12:26 PM

That sucks that there's no franchise mode on NBA live 2001.

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ROXRAN

01-28-2001, 01:04 AM

I like horror games (as well as sports games). How does the two platforms compare in that category? I've see "Resident Evil: codename Veronica"? - I think.. for Dreamcast. Is this a replication of the classic or would this be truly worth it? Thanks.

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Hobbs

01-29-2001, 10:22 AM

Resident Evil: Code Veronica is considered by most to be the best of the series and is only available on the Dreamcast at the moment (don't know if there are plans to put it on other consoles as the other titles were done and put on the Dreamcast).

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fadeaway

01-30-2001, 01:56 AM

Ugh.. The awkward control scheme makes the Resident Evil series so horrible.

The games would actually be enjoyable if it had sensible controls (ala Parasite Eve 1).

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Mango

02-04-2001, 09:24 PM

Another Xbox story about trademarks.

http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3Q4GWXSIC&live=true&tagid=IXLYK5HZ8CC

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Mango

04-29-2001, 01:04 AM

In this article:

http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,24065,00.html?body_page=1

they give a very rosy projection for the potential sales dollars involved in the gaming market in a few years.

Is the projection accurate or too happy?

Mango

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