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GermanRoxFan
01-06-2009, 08:52 PM
... in the last 6 games:
11/53 from the field (3/23 3p) for 21 % with 2.5 apg and 2 topg.
the rockets are doomed if both of their pgs have bad games at the same time.
EbolaScola
01-06-2009, 08:53 PM
He needs to stop the bricklaying and go back to what he's been doing all season, which is drive to the basket.
Smoke_On
01-06-2009, 08:54 PM
man he has been sucking lately.
doublebogey
01-06-2009, 08:54 PM
It's not a thread for "Brooks as starter"? Strange!
Jeff Who
01-06-2009, 08:55 PM
I never liked him. He reminds me of Mike James. SELFISH. He doesn't pass. he shoots. Shoots and shoots. It is getting pathetic. A team that wants to compete for a championship where the players do what they want? COme on!
He was playing like we didn't have a coach. Just KEEP SHOOTIN'
he couldnt keep lue williams infront of him if his life depended on it this game...
t_mac1
01-06-2009, 09:00 PM
dude is proving to be a ballhog and selfish player. he ignored tracy and yao so many times i wanted to slam the TV. this is even worse than mike james.
rafer and brooks think they're gods under adelman and can do whatever they want.
TheGreat
01-06-2009, 09:02 PM
We need to change our system, or we are screwed
Shroopy2
01-06-2009, 09:05 PM
Aaron Brooks has the same mentality of the other players. Just happens he has the ball alot as point guard and he's 5'-11". Some players brains just cant process shoot and pass distribution evenly. Tha
withmustard
01-06-2009, 09:05 PM
since when is 3/23 21%?
EbolaScola
01-06-2009, 09:07 PM
since when is 3/23 21%?
He didn't say it was. He meant 11/53 is 21%.
GermanRoxFan
01-06-2009, 09:08 PM
he couldnt keep lue williams infront of him if his life depended on it this game...
exactly. i mean rafer has those slumps as well but at least rafer gives you a couple of rebounds, some defense and a real pg who can run an offense even when he's in a shooting slump.
what's brooks good for if he can't score?
this shouldn't be a brooks bashing thread, though. he's probably the only rocket that has exceeded expectations so far this season. this shooting slump also won't last forever. my point is though that we need at least one of our pgs playing well as long as our big 3 aren't delivering. it's no coincidence that the rockets are playing especially poor in the last couple of games where both of our pgs really sucked at the same time. everybody is focusing on t-mac but basketball is still a team game.
DaDakota
01-06-2009, 09:09 PM
... in the last 6 games:
11/53 from the field (3/23 3p) for 21 % with 2.5 apg and 2 topg.
the rockets are doomed if both of their pgs have bad games at the same time.
Man, you are 100% right, if both Brooks and Alston are stinking this team will not do well.
DD
Dave_78
01-06-2009, 09:12 PM
Maybe he should talk to management about only playing one game of back to backs so he can get some rest and shoot better. I think Yao could average 14 boards a game if he did that. Landry could probably get 2-3 more dunks a game if he did that too.
Tmac could be such a trendsetter.
Grimm920
01-06-2009, 09:13 PM
they aren't playing him at the point... its stupid playing him as a 2 guard
clos4life
01-06-2009, 09:17 PM
It's at times like this I wonder if Steve Francis had anything left in the tank. I would be trying him out for a few minutes to see how he would respond.
But alas, that's yet another ship that has sailed.
MD_in_Training
01-06-2009, 09:21 PM
It's at times like this I wonder if Steve Francis had anything left in the tank. I would be trying him out for a few minutes to see how he would respond.
But alas, that's yet another ship that has sailed.
An opportune time for Brooks to start sucking.
jordan_hx
01-06-2009, 09:29 PM
He only contributed 12 assists within last 5 games. Is he a PG?
oneonepyopyo
01-06-2009, 09:31 PM
dude is proving to be a ballhog and selfish player. he ignored tracy and yao so many times i wanted to slam the TV. this is even worse than mike james.
I have to agree with you on that. He did ingore both Tracy and Yao quite a few times. I mean it's not like Tracy or Yao are in bad postions.
Something tells me it has something to do with RA and it was his decision to let Brooks be more aggressive and Brooks just used it as the 'penalty free' card and did whatever he wanted.
Rafer did a fairly better job than him at this point.
oneonepyopyo
01-06-2009, 09:39 PM
this shouldn't be a brooks bashing thread,though. he's probably the only rocket that has exceeded expectations so far this season. this shooting slump also won't last forever. my point is though that we need at least one of our pgs playing well as long as our big 3 aren't delivering. it's no coincidence that the rockets are playing especially poor in the last couple of games where both of our pgs really sucked at the same time. everybody is focusing on t-mac but basketball is still a team game.
Agreed.
Overall, Brooks did well. I expect, however, at least one of our PGs is able to make the open 3s when our big 3s provide him chances in the crunch time.
madmonkey37
01-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Umm isn't it his role to shoot the ball? I thought everyone knew that when we drafted him he was nothing more then a speedfreak SG in a midgets body. Theres a reason why Adelman plays him along with Rafer and Barry a lot, hes not a PG and probably never will be one.
That being said he has been sucking some major ass. One of the recent games, Worrel said that Brooks has been in a major 3 point slump and that even his attempts at shoot around the pregame warm up were way off. He going to need to either drive it more to the hoop and let the 3 point shots come to him or just shoot through the slump.
Marsarinian
01-06-2009, 09:43 PM
I never liked him. He reminds me of Mike James. SELFISH. He doesn't pass. he shoots. Shoots and shoots. It is getting pathetic. A team that wants to compete for a championship where the players do what they want? COme on!
He was playing like we didn't have a coach. Just KEEP SHOOTIN'
You know we're in trouble when the haters point their blaming sticks to Aaron Brooks.
A_3PO
01-06-2009, 09:44 PM
I'll go back to my original contention: The Rockets made a huge mistake coming into the season with Rafer and AB as their PG combo. Weak starter with a weak backup. They must move one or both guys in a package to get a decent starter.
The Brian
01-06-2009, 09:48 PM
i like how everyone says brooks is terrible after a slump.
weren't people so crazy about him when he was knocking down his shots?
so much overreaction to success and failure.
Little Bit
01-06-2009, 09:50 PM
I'll go back to my original contention: The Rockets made a huge mistake coming into the season with Rafer and AB as their PG combo. Weak starter with a weak backup. They must move one or both guys in a package to get a decent starter.
I agree. And what happens if Rafer has his recurrent hamstring problem? Is it Luther Head to the rescue?
T-macsterful1
01-06-2009, 09:51 PM
I have no problem with him shooting the ball through the course of the game but if he's not hitting it in the 1st-3rd quarter I wish that he wouldn't be chucking him up in the last minute. I want the ball in Tracy Mcgrady's hands. I trust the ball in T-macs hands far far far far far far more in clutch time.
I don't care if brooks will never be a playmaker but for rox sakes he has to efing realize that he's not the best option at the end of the game and who in the league can nail a 3 coming off a full tilt sprint like that consistently, especially if they were a junk show all night. Someone has to smack him around a little for him to realize. Please put the ball in Mr.Mcgrady's hands, we saw him limp tonight and have problems, guess what next posession he took it to the hole. We need to feed him when he wants to do that. Brooks needs to learn how to recognize situations.
Pocket Rockets
01-06-2009, 10:00 PM
theres a big difference in how he was playing when he started for rafer than when he is playing alongside rafer.
his role changes thus his confidence gets shaken because of the uncertainty.
another point could be the possiblity that when he started the season on fire, he was actually playing for a role in the rotation whereas once rick told him to be more aggressive, he quit playing with the same intensity....
or maybe teams have started to watch film and have adjusted appropriately
DaDakota
01-06-2009, 10:00 PM
AB is better on the ball then off it.....I agree he should no longer be playing SG.......he needs to penetrate and dish, that is his thing.
DD
Angkor Wat
01-06-2009, 10:01 PM
Once the team starts playing better as a whole, Brooks will find his jumper.
Pocket Rockets
01-06-2009, 10:06 PM
Once the team starts playing better as a whole, Brooks will find his jumper.
shot making is contagious
knickstorm
01-06-2009, 11:49 PM
i like how everyone says brooks is terrible after a slump.
weren't people so crazy about him when he was knocking down his shots?
so much overreaction to success and failure.
no way, there was definitely a "i hate rafer alston and love aaron brooks" group of people, and you had another "rafer may not be the answer, but aaron brooks certainly isnt as a starting PG....
knickstorm
01-06-2009, 11:50 PM
theres a big difference in how he was playing when he started for rafer than when he is playing alongside rafer.
his role changes thus his confidence gets shaken because of the uncertainty.
another point could be the possiblity that when he started the season on fire, he was actually playing for a role in the rotation whereas once rick told him to be more aggressive, he quit playing with the same intensity....
or maybe teams have started to watch film and have adjusted appropriately
yea when he started for rafer both tmac and yao were doing well......when he's playing with rafer, that aint happening.......
redao
01-06-2009, 11:57 PM
Rafer was shooting 16/61 (26%) in the last 6 games.
We have the worst Pg combo. no one can come close.
RocketsMac
01-07-2009, 12:02 AM
i like how everyone says brooks is terrible after a slump.
weren't people so crazy about him when he was knocking down his shots?
so much overreaction to success and failure.
it's not that my friend, it's the terrible thought that this isn't a "slump", but rather Brooks' regular form, and the beginning of the season was just a "hot streak", something I believed all along but the over reactors that u talk of hailed him as the second coming of Allen Iverson..
despite all of this, I'd still take him over Rafer.. I hate Brooks selfishness, but then I remember how many prayers Rafer throws up, so I go back to being content with Brooks since he holds the advantage of Rafer of his shots having a CHANCE to go in..
Nolocke
01-07-2009, 12:06 AM
I said it before the season started and I'll say it again. We need a point guard that focuses on assist's and creating oppurtunities for our scorers. We have many players that can shoot and score, we need someone that can feed the ball and shoot high percentage shots when open. Only a few point guards out there that can do that but it would be worth checking into. Nash, Bibby, Calderon, and Billups all come to mind. Of course most of those guys are not available but there are some deals to be had if we can unload a few guys we might be able to score one.
where is brookball at? :D
northeastfan
01-07-2009, 12:37 AM
AB has really stunk it up of late ... I completely agree. One thing I can't figure out is why AB and Airballston are on the court at the same time. Seems like a recipe for disaster.
bratna8
01-07-2009, 12:40 AM
Kirk Hinrich to the rescue plus Ben Gordon :D
Nolocke
01-07-2009, 01:04 AM
Kirk Hinrich to the rescue plus Ben Gordon :D
Sign, sealed, and delivered. Get it done!
AB has really stunk it up of late ... I completely agree. One thing I can't figure out is why AB and Airballston are on the court at the same time. Seems like a recipe for disaster.
recipe for disaster? c'mon, that's adelman's favorite combo lately.
Sign, sealed, and delivered. Get it done!
I hope both of you are joking, cause Hinrich and Gordon combined make around 16 million.
Please elaborate how we match that in a trade...(cue the TMac scenarios)...
Jeff Who
01-07-2009, 07:43 AM
AB is better on the ball then off it.....I agree he should no longer be playing SG.......he needs to penetrate and dish, that is his thing.
DD
DaDakota, I know YOU LOVE Aaron and VSpan, but let's face it.
Obviously Aaron should use his quickness, but wait a minute, you mean DISH? Did you see the game vs. Philly. This guy is SELFISH. He doesn't LIKE and doesn't WANT to pass. He wants to SHOOT again and again.
One play, at the end of the 3rd, the ball was in AB's hands. He got a screem but they didn't went under it so he was forced to dribble. T-Mac had a good shot and was pretty ready to shoot that, but AB refused to pass it to him and got BLOCKED on a jumpshot. It is SELFISH.
I am not saying McGrady would have made that shot, but come on. This guy reminds me of 'I am Mike James biatch'. He didn't like to pass, he only shot it.
I mean, come on, it is your backup POINT GUARD. I know he used to score a lot in Oregon but this is NBA, you've got Yao and McGrady on the team. So is it normal than he took 11 shots (made 1 - nice) and Yao at the same time took 9...
He refused passing it to T-Mac the entire 2nd quater.
T-Yao
01-07-2009, 07:46 AM
mayhe he didn't see tracy ;D
DaDakota
01-07-2009, 07:55 AM
He refused passing it to T-Mac the entire 2nd quater.
Refused to pass to Tmac, huh?
He has passed to him before.....he had a bad game.
DD
Jeff Who
01-07-2009, 08:21 AM
Refused to pass to Tmac, huh?
He has passed to him before.....he had a bad game.
DD
No, he has been playing badly past FEW GAMES
DaDakota
01-07-2009, 08:23 AM
No, he has been playing badly past FEW GAMES
Agreed, ever since his role has changed from starter back to bench, he has stunk it up......looks unconfident in his shot, and has not pressured the defense as much off the dribble.
I am actually HAPPY he is waving off Tmac, that shows growth.....
DD
Jeff Who
01-07-2009, 08:37 AM
Agreed, ever since his role has changed from starter back to bench, he has stunk it up......looks unconfident in his shot, and has not pressured the defense as much off the dribble.
I am actually HAPPY he is waving off Tmac, that shows growth.....
DD
Are you kidding? So I guess you are ok with his 1-11 night. I guess it is all right for him to KEEP SHOOTING whe he just cannot byu a bucket...
Wired, DD
Jeff Who
01-07-2009, 08:38 AM
Wired, DD
weird, I meant weird
djimi
01-07-2009, 08:41 AM
give the guy a break, he's going through a slump at the moment, he'll pick it up soon. he's only in his 2nd year, he's still learning. he just needs to take it to the hoop and take high percentage shots to gain back his confidence :)
Pocket Rockets
01-07-2009, 09:59 AM
Are you kidding? So I guess you are ok with his 1-11 night. I guess it is all right for him to KEEP SHOOTING whe he just cannot byu a bucket...
Wired, DD
it doesn't matter who shoots it, whether its ab going 1-11 or tmac going 5-15 this team is still shooting horribly
once ab gets back to his natural position, he will be back to normal (confidence wise)
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