Morey uses Live 09 [Archive]

Egghead

11-28-2008, 10:34 PM

http://www.pastapadre.com/5036/nba-teams-using-live-09-to-scout
..just came across it..pretty cool
lock it up if it has been posted

worzel gummidge

11-28-2008, 10:46 PM

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-media28-2008nov28,0,5602549.story
Teams plug in to video game to evaluate talent in NBA
EA Sports

November 28, 2008

Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey doesn't play video games for fun or fantasy.

Morey uses the EA Sports NBA game for professional reasons. He uses it to help evaluate talent. Morey says he is a statistical junky, an admirer of Oakland Athletics General Manager Billy Beane and a mathematical nerd. "I've always loved numbers," Morey said. "I don't play EA Sports as a game. I use it as a tool."

While the kids plug in NBA 08 to "ooh" and "aah" over how real it looks when Kobe Bryant dunks or LeBron James runs the court and finishes, Morey plugs in for more serious purposes.

"Say if you're thinking about acquiring Ron Artest," Morey said from Hawaii, where he was evaluating talent in person at the Maui Classic college tournament.

"On the game, you can see how adding Artest can change the dynamic of your team. You can program it to run offensive sets with Artest and any combination of your players."

Morey said that even this early in the season, there are enough statistics available to evaluate rookies such as Minnesota's Kevin Love (from UCLA) and Memphis' O.J. Mayo (from USC)

"For example, you can tell how often, if Love throws an outlet pass, how often his team scores on the possession," Morey said. "You can tell how often Mayo goes right versus left, how effective the team is with Mayo pulling up and shooting versus when he pulls up and passes instead."

According to the NBA, about half the teams are using the video game as part of personnel evaluation. In the quiet of his office, Morey said he can see how often a player posts up and gets shots on cuts to the basket as well as about defensive and offensive tendencies.

So what is Morey doing in Maui? Just sipping mai tais on the beach?

"Simulation is great and will have a bigger and bigger place in the process," Morey said. "But at the end of the day you can't simulate a player being out too late the night before or his body language on the bench or how he interacts with teammates. Some things you have to do in person."

Especially if the games are in Maui.

Dave2000

11-28-2008, 10:49 PM

something similar to this story was posted awhile back

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=154296&highlight=live+morey

dkoune

11-28-2008, 11:13 PM

well, he's not perfect. :cool:

Noob Cake

11-29-2008, 09:23 AM

Luther Head is a consistent and accurate shooter in video games, but fails in irl.

Fail evaluation method is fail.

tangsanmao

11-29-2008, 10:00 AM

I think 2k9 is much better
NBA is not a game , it can't be a game.(after i met 2k9)

tangsanmao

11-29-2008, 10:05 AM

sorry ! it should be "NBA live"

Ikorose

11-29-2008, 10:09 AM

He's playing the wrong game. 2k9 or bust.

fadeawayjae

11-29-2008, 10:48 AM

dont tell me this is what he use for trade simulators haha

durvasa

11-29-2008, 11:13 AM

Almost every NBA team uses the stats and videos from Synergy. NBA Live using Synergy data for its gameplay simulation. I could see it being used as a tool to visualize how certain combinations of players with particular "Synergy" attributes would play with eachother.

DaDakota

11-29-2008, 12:32 PM

Does Tmac play every game in the virtual season?

And if not, is he even on the bench rooting his team on?

;)

DD

TheGM

11-29-2008, 12:40 PM

It's not a bout the gameplay; which 2K is better at. Live 09 has Synergy, that has stats from every game about the % of when Parker goes right and what happens when he does. Obviously Morey is not going to use some 2K Insider's opinion over Synergy.

SpiderPig-Man

11-29-2008, 12:57 PM

Does Tmac play every game in the virtual season?

And if not, is he even on the bench rooting his team on?

DD

I mean no disrespect to you DD, but was this post really necessary? Anyway, nice read.

DaDakota

11-29-2008, 12:58 PM

I mean no disrespect to you DD, but was this post really necessary? Anyway, nice read.

I was trying to be funny.....I guess it failed.

LOL

DD

denniscd

11-29-2008, 02:36 PM

tell me this is not how we make our decisions...thats just strange. i love me some morey but this is embarrassing

AroundTheWorld

11-29-2008, 02:40 PM

That's just PR for a licensing partner of the NBA.

durvasa

11-29-2008, 04:33 PM

tell me this is not how we make our decisions...thats just strange. i love me some morey but this is embarrassing

It's a simulation tool, and I'm sure it's just one of many evaluation steps in his decision making process. It's no more embarrassing than looking at Synergy's stats for prospective players -- something virtually every NBA team does.

BasketballReasons

11-29-2008, 05:00 PM

I actually remember discovering some young talents while using nba 2k.

TheGM

11-29-2008, 06:34 PM

Everyone uses Synergy, and Live 09 integrates Synergy

"We’ve used Synergy for several years now. It’s a fantastic product that’s become a key part of our scouting process, and it’s improving every year. I’ve known [Synergy CEO] Garrick Barr for 15 years – he’s one of the best in the business and I’m excited to continue working with him and his team."
-Danny Ainge, GM, 2008 World Champion Boston Celtics

“To be able to watch video of every NBA player and watch every facet of their game without any advanced preparation is unheard of.”

http://www.synergysportstech.com/images/1_p2.gif

burnnotice

12-01-2008, 09:06 AM

ghost

12-01-2008, 01:20 PM

A GM using a video game to evaluate talent? You have got to be kidding me. Isn't this the same game that simulated The Baron Davis Golden State Warriors into the NBA Finals?

And seriously, how can you be involved in making decisions regarding multi-million dollar trades if you need a video game to tell you how Ron Artest is going to perform on your team?

I think the article was a little misleading. Morey doesn't rely on the game for analysis. It's a piece, and I expect a very small, piece of the tools the Rockets use. The use of Synergy is far more prevalent, as seen by the 25 NBA teams that use it. Colleges and international teams are now signing on for the service. Synergy partnered with EA Sports to allow its data to be used in the game, which enhances the game's appeal to consumers.

The Rockets have a plethora of guys crunching numbers for them. I know of three guys for sure that consult for them. One is fairly well known, Ken Pomeroy, who writes for Basketball Prospectus and still has his ratings page at www.kenpom.com. He also consults for Baylor; at least he did last season. I haven't talked with him in a while to see if he is back again this year.

Rocketball

12-01-2008, 01:54 PM

Guys, let's be real now, this is just a way for Morey to screw around while in the office............

"Les, you can't fire me, really I am working, just give me a few more minutes and I'll be in the meeting....................

I'm determined to find someone who will accept a trade for Rafer...."

dachuda86

12-01-2008, 04:39 PM

This is all that statistical research Morey has been undertaking... woooow.

bullardfan

12-01-2008, 09:38 PM

they should add a party and clubbing mode and give each player addiction tendencies, personalities, and mental case factors.

make it so that if you piss off certain players in games, like heckling or elbowing them, they perform better or worse.

then add a kobe option with girls coming into your hotel room and whether or not you want to rape them.

kinda like GTA meets Sims meets NBA Live.

ReD_1

12-04-2008, 04:10 AM

dskillz

12-04-2008, 01:53 PM

tell me this is not how we make our decisions...thats just strange. i love me some morey but this is embarrassing

He doesn't play the F'n game.

NBA Live gets nightly updates of scouting info that all GMs get. Live actually gets the info faster than GMs get it so you can review the info alot faster that way. It is actually really cool. You can see which player is trending upwards, which player is better on the low block turning right to the basket, etc.