New Bet

[Batman Jones]

Since George was too chicken to take the old one, here's a far more generous offer.

If Obama loses, I will stop posting in D&D for one year.

If Obama wins, George has to carry a signature for the same amount of time that reads, simply: God bless America.

Furthermore, he has to agree not to post anything for that year that would undermine our new commander-in-chief in his first year in office.

Finally, he has to get his baby brother bigtexxx to agree to the same terms.

Now, George has demanded that 15 liberals take a bet before he will. He is exactly chicken enough that he set what he believed to be terms that would never be met. Let's meet those terms. Who cares. We have nothing to lose and a tiny bit of fun to gain.

Sam Fisher and CBFC have already signed on to the old bet. Hopefully they'll sign on to this one too.

I'm one. Are there fourteen more?

Terms again:

15 liberals agree not to post in D&D for a year if Obama loses.

If Obama wins, George and little brother texxx carry sigs for a year reading "God Bless America" and say nothing in that year to undermine our new C-in-C.

Who's game?

[Trader_Jorge]

^^^ The late night work of Batman Jones... you know what that means.

Anyways, here is my response:

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[Batman Jones]

One last caveat:

If George takes this bet (and I doubt he will - he's too chicken to take any bet, really), and then violates the terms of the agreement by unpatriotically dissing our new president after agreeing not to, he agrees to a 2 year ban from this forum. That seems fair.

[Trader_Jorge]

BATMAN GOES BURP when he posts late at night...

[Batman Jones]

^^^ The late night work of Batman Jones... you know what that means.

I don't get drunk anymore, Chicken. You, however, are still a coward.

I offer you 15 liberals taking a full year off and you are still too cowardly.

Just give up then. You have no convictions. You know your side is about to lose and deserves to. And you are, as always, full of it.

If you had any balls at all, you'd take this bet. You do not. So you won't.

[rodrick_98]

why would someone take a bet they know is not winnable?

[Trader_Jorge]

BATMAN GO BURP

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[Batman Jones]

BATMAN GOES BURP when he posts late at night...

I'm trying to debate you in the debate forum, C_G. And all you can do is say that if it's after midnight I must be drunk. I'm not. I could prove that with a breathalyzer. And you could prove you're not a legendary coward by taking the lopsided bet you asked for. But you are one, so you won't. Just like your party, you are out of ideas and out of arguments so you resort to old, worn out, discredited character attacks. Weak.

CASE CLOSED.

[Batman Jones]

Also, 12:24 is hardly "late" for me. I work about 60 hours a week minimum, but I don't crunch numbers for a boss like you, George. I work for myself and I set my own hours. Most of my work days start around noon and end around 10pm. Sometimes earlier, sometimes later. It's up to me. I live in the great and free United States of America where, if someone has a good idea and a strong work ethic, he can forge his own path. I have done that. So I will often post late here.

Even though I have often whipped your sorry ass here while drunk, you ought not to assume I am doing that every time I post after midnight (LOL). If it's after midnight, I'm usually just getting off work.

[durvasa]

If McCain/Palin win the election, I will be so dejected with the entire political process I doubt I'd want to visit this forum.

If T_J agrees, then I will join as well.

[drumbum]

I'm in. As one of the liberals of course...

[peleincubus]

man you guys really hate each other. sheesh

[Batman Jones]

man you guys really hate each other. sheesh

I don't hate George. And I don't want him to leave the D&D. Hence the new bet. I'm offering to leave if I lose but I'm not asking him to if he does.

I am kind of bored with him calling me a drunk whenever he doesn't have a comeback to my posts (which is pretty much always), but whatever. I don't hate him. I think he's a kick.

And I want him to stay right here and take it like a good chicken when Obama wins. I don't expect him to take the bet (he'd never take any bet) even though the terms here are far more generous than the ones he demanded before.

I just thought it would be fun to be on record, offering these generous terms, offering to self-ban in return for a signature, offering 15 liberals to two twin brothers... But I never expected him to take it.

And I'd hate it if he ever stopped posting here.

[Nice Rollin]

i thought it was jorge. like jorge posada.

[Cannonball]

i thought it was jorge. like jorge posada.

I really don't know but to me Trader "George" has a better rhythm and feel than Trader "Whore-Hay" so I've chosen to read it as the former instead of the latter even though I'm probably wrong.

[shastarocket]

I'm in.

Step up to the plate Magnanimo

[knote32]

I'll take the bet as a lib, Trader won't though..............

[IROC it]

Question... How can any one poster speak for 14 others as if he's Davey Jones or something?


Furthermore, how would you judge "undermine" or "unpatriotically dissing?"


It would seem the policing associated would ruin the fun of the win... wouldn't it?


And lastly, is that you and your "little brother texxx" on that video T_J? ;)


This thread may end up popcorn worthy.

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[Deckard]

I'll sign on, and I really don't like this kind of bet. **** it. I'm in the mood.

[rockbox]

I'm in as a moderate voting for Obama.

[Batman Jones]

Question... How can any one poster speak for 14 others as if he's Davey Jones or something?

I can't. It was a hypothetical. I was saying, in effect, if I can get 15 liberals as George demanded, and if I were to even lessen the terms in his favor (so he owed only a sig change vs. self-bans), would he take it? George was characteristically scaredy cat enough to run away before anybody had a chance to sign up. No surprise. I knew that would happen. George is famous here for going poof.

Furthermore, how would you judge "undermine" or "unpatriotically dissing?"

Good question. I figured we could judge it according to George's own rules, as evidenced in his posts of the last several years. In those posts, we learned that any criticism at all of the commander-in-chief was equal to treason. So I figured maybe, if he lost, he would agree not to do any treason, according to his own definition, for the first year of the next administration. But he was too chicken to agree, so I fully expect him to do much treason on the next president. According to his own terms.

Which reminds me of how much fun I'm about to have wearing flag pins and handing out patriotic bumper stickers and singing God Bless America with my hand over my heart in various places. I certainly hope to find much common ground with patriotic Republicans as I do this.

IROC it... would you care to join me in a round of God Bless America on election night? If so, I will very gladly give you my address and make sure we have your favorite food and beverages on hand. I am having a party that night and you are invited.

[IROC it]

I took the first bet.... maybe before any other Repub-leaner did. ;)

But, as for a party... I'm 5 hours north of Houston...

Thanks for the invite though. :cool:

[Batman Jones]

I took the first bet.... maybe before any other Repub-leaner did. ;)

Kudos. I didn't see that - I was off the forum for some weeks. I hope it won't mean you won't be able to post here in the days directly following election day. I'm looking forward to much patriotic common ground in those days, as we come together to support our next commander-in-chief as he prepares to address some truly great challenges left to him by the prior administration.

Sorry you won't be able to attend the party. If your plans change such that you will be in or around Houston I hope you'll consider coming by. It's gonna be a real humdinger.

[yo]

Though I wouldn't necessary consider myself a "liberal", I'm in on the bet.

[Codman]

Just let T_J post here. It's his only outlet to practice propaganda and the art of trolling.

Obviously he isn't going to take the bet.

[weslinder]

Furthermore, he has to agree not to post anything for that year that would undermine our new commander-in-chief in his first year in office.

If Obama wins, George and little brother texxx carry sigs for a year reading "God Bless America" and say nothing in that year to undermine our new C-in-C.

I don't play silly betting games, and I kinda enjoy watching the bickering between you and Trader_Jorge from the sidelines, but these statements are ridiculous. T_J could post that he thinks that Obama will provoke Pakistani militants to bomb the White House and the Toyota Center, and it wouldn't matter outside of this board. What's posted on this board has little effect on posters, and almost no effect beyond posters on this board.*



*So long as you don't post something negative about China. Then it gets plastered all over the Chinese interwebs in minutes.

[bigtexxx]

Interesting. I may consider this. I do indeed hope that God blesses America

Doesn't seem like much of a carrot for me, though - Not reading the Beejster's posts for a year would deprive me of many good laughs

[Faos]

I don't play silly betting games, and I kinda enjoy watching the bickering between you and Trader_Jorge from the sidelines, but these statements are ridiculous. T_J could post that he thinks that Obama will provoke Pakistani militants to bomb the White House and the Toyota Center, and it wouldn't matter outside of this board. What's posted on this board has little effect on posters, and almost no effect beyond posters on this board.*


Exactly. What's the point of having a "discussion" board without the possibility of 2 sides discussing?

[Groogrux]

Exactly. What's the point of having a "discussion" board without the possibility of 2 sides discussing?

Call me when that happens.

[giddyup]

Exactly. What's the point of having a "discussion" board without the possibility of 2 sides discussing?
Would you be willing to become Trader_Faos just for the sake of continuity? T_F if you prefer...

[Faos]

Would you be willing to become Trader_Faos just for the sake of continuity? T_F if you prefer...

Why? Regardless who wins my d&d post count will drop drastically until 2012 anyway.

[Mulder]

"God made us number one because he loves us the best
Well maybe He should go bless someone else for a while, give us a rest"

- Ben Folds, "All you can eat"

[thacabbage]

Jesus Christ, could you guys be any more childish? You would think liberal/conservative were code for crypts/bloods judging by the juvenile, unwavering loyalty to each respective ideological classification. Grow up, seriously.

[weslinder]

Jesus Christ, could you guys be any more childish? You would think liberal/conservative were code for crypts/bloods judging by the juvenile, unwavering loyalty to each respective ideological classification. Grow up, seriously.

Crypts? Do you mean Crips?

Elitist. You don't know how people live on Main Street.

[thacabbage]

Crypts? Do you mean Crips?

Elitist. You don't know how people live on Main Street.
:( :(

[basso]

Since George was too chicken to take the old one, here's a far more generous offer.

If Obama loses, I will stop posting in D&D for one year.

If Obama wins, George has to carry a signature for the same amount of time that reads, simply: God bless America.

Furthermore, he has to agree not to post anything for that year that would undermine our new commander-in-chief in his first year in office.

Finally, he has to get his baby brother bigtexxx to agree to the same terms.

Now, George has demanded that 15 liberals take a bet before he will. He is exactly chicken enough that he set what he believed to be terms that would never be met. Let's meet those terms. Who cares. We have nothing to lose and a tiny bit of fun to gain.

Sam Fisher and CBFC have already signed on to the old bet. Hopefully they'll sign on to this one too.

I'm one. Are there fourteen more?

Terms again:

15 liberals agree not to post in D&D for a year if Obama loses.

If Obama wins, George and little brother texxx carry sigs for a year reading "God Bless America" and say nothing in that year to undermine our new C-in-C.

Who's game?

i'll take the bet with a slight variation. if i lose, i'll leave the d&d for a year. if you lose, no penalty, but you must agree to a signature between now and election day that acknowledges you've spent the past 8 years posting with the intent to undermine our C-in-C.

[Fatty FatBastard]

Fascinating.

[Batman Jones]

Jesus Christ, could you guys be any more childish? You would think liberal/conservative were code for crypts/bloods judging by the juvenile, unwavering loyalty to each respective ideological classification. Grow up, seriously.

your mean.

[IROC it]

Call me when that happens.

So you can continue not contributing much, or what? :p

[SamFisher]

i haven't read this bet or its terms but I will take it.

[IROC it]

i haven't read this bet or its terms but I will take it.


Thanks for following your leader.

[basso]

your mean.

TTB BM:

i'll take the bet with a slight variation. if i lose, i'll leave the d&d for a year. if you lose, no penalty, but you must agree to a signature between now and election day that acknowledges you've spent the past 8 years posting with the intent to undermine our C-in-C.

[SamFisher]

^There it is folks - more proof that basso believes that posting on a basketball message board is a threat to national security, and that he fulfills a vital patriotic duty with his presence here. TRUE PATRIOT.

Anyway I'm personally happy to note that I've tried to blunt the failed presidency of George W. Bush for 8 years. I'd be ashamed of myself otherwise.

[basso]

i haven't read this bet or its terms but I will take it.

RTB Sam

Since George was too chicken to take the old one, here's a far more generous offer.

If Obama loses, I will stop posting in D&D for one year.

If Obama wins, George has to carry a signature for the same amount of time that reads, simply: God bless America.

Furthermore, he has to agree not to post anything for that year that would undermine our new commander-in-chief in his first year in office.

[Yao_Mac]

I'm not a "Liberal" but I'll take the bet

[rocket3forlife2]

How many do you have so far?

Add me in!

[Batman Jones]

I was making fun of you and George with the "undermine the c-in-c" stuff, basso. Not surprised you didn't get it.

[basso]

I was making fun of you and George with the "undermine the c-in-c" stuff, basso. Not surprised you didn't get it.

so you won't take your own bet?

[Batman Jones]

so you won't take your own bet?

Of course I'll take my bet. I said I would in the first post. I'll take pretty much any bet that makes sense. You want me to post a signature today saying I've been trying to undermine the commander-in-chief? That doesn't even make any sense. Which is par for the course.

You're not fun like George is. You're just weird.

[basso]

Of course I'll take my bet. I said I would in the first post. I'll take pretty much any bet that makes sense. You want me to post a signature today saying I've been trying to undermine the commander-in-chief? That doesn't even make any sense. Which is par for the course.

You're not fun like George is. You're just weird.

it makes perfect sense. you only have to carry the sig through the election, and even if you lose the bet, there's no further penalty. on the other hand, if i lose, i'm out of the d&d for a year. really, it's so lopsided, i can't imagine why you'd turn it down?

[halfbreed]

it makes perfect sense. you only have to carry the sig through the election, and even if you lose the bet, there's no further penalty. on the other hand, if i lose, i'm out of the d&d for a year. really, it's so lopsided, i can't imagine why you'd turn it down?

Usually in a bet the consequences happen AFTER the event you're betting on.

The only reason to make someone do something BEFORE the event is if you're sure you're going to lose. What you're proposing isn't even a bet.

[ArtV]

Anyone taking a bet that McCain will win this after what has happened the past 2 years is not thinking rationally. George Bush (with the help of a sad GOP Congress) has done to the Republican party what Jimmy did to the Democratic party back in the 70s. It will take 20 years for the GOP to recover from this.

[SamFisher]

I will put that I don't support GWB after every D&D post from now till election day. This is a win win situation.


GWB sucks I don't support him.

[CBrownFanClub]

Sure, I'm in. Whichever.

Cabbage, I am with you like 99.5% of the time, but I think you're wrong here. Making internet bets about leaving a BBS is in <i>perfect</i> tune with the D&D. It totally hits the spot.

The thing Batman and others are looking for with Trader_Jorge is accountability. Our hero poofs every time one of his over-the-top predictions rings false (see: "News on Obama's Birth Certificate in One Hour, Stay tuned"). Or when he is demonstrably wrong on policy or history. Or when he self-owns (the hilarious Batman called the election for Kerry thread). He also explains that he represent mainstream America - that he and his circular Ayn-Rand-Meets-Sean-Hannity-Meets-A-Severe-Head-Trauma logic is somehow both a) correct and b) popular.

For him, one-note nonstop posting on a sports website, beating up non-existent "liberal" straw men, is a thoughtful and strong worldview. Basically, he is Rush Limbaugh without the humor or money, and he contaminates more productive political discourse on this website.

SO: The bet is a chance to put this to some sort of objective measure on his preposterous claims. Obama is so fringe and electorally doomed? McCain Palin are so in touch and smart? Terrific. Lets bet on it.

Of course he wont take it - his expressed political worldview relies on a lack of objective measures or accountability. Really, the call for taking a bet demonstrates that the views he so arrogantly expresses are neither correct nor representative of the country he supposedly loves. And its not just about Trader. Its about the parasite cardboard conservatism that has overtaken the nuanced, reasonable and restrained elements of the right wing - truth is, we need the 'sane' GOP back. Honestly, the country needs leaders to speak substantively about fiscal prudence, military strength, the rights of the individual, etc. But no, we have to listen to Hannity, Rushbo, and conquistador blather on about William Ayers.

As Jon Stewart would rightly observe, people who espouse those views really love America, they just hate 90% of the people in it.

There are political writers on the board with whom I disagree - IROC, faos, rhester, etc - but I actually come here so I can read their stuff, not just Batman and people I agree with. But Trader is so "all talk," his mouth is so big, his posting so mean-spirited and unsubstantive, he would never put his money where his mouth is. By reducing the bet to something as inconsequential as putting God Bless America in his sig and not liberal-starw-man bashing for a year or whatever, he is shining a light on what Trader is made of - lack of accountability, misanthropy and cowardice. The Conquistador indeed.

Take the bet.

[Batman Jones]

it makes perfect sense. you only have to carry the sig through the election, and even if you lose the bet, there's no further penalty. on the other hand, if i lose, i'm out of the d&d for a year. really, it's so lopsided, i can't imagine why you'd turn it down?

Because I've never lied on this board and even the sweet prize of you being gone for a year doesn't persuade me to start doing it now.

[Batman Jones]

Nice post, Fan Club.

[Apollo Creed]

I'll join.

However, I expect our resident BBS PUSSY!!! will not follow through.

[basso]

Nice post, Fan Club.

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[CBrownFanClub]

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