[Official] Colts @ Texans

[Castor27]

Noon Sunday on CBS

[XBLRocketman111]

I have to admit i'm pretty excited for this one, first home game against the struggling colts. We need to build on what we started against the jags.

No turnovers, no mistakes, keep scoring the ball.

Defense, i searching for an identity. pretty good stopping both backs, bad QB contain. Good pressure by mario all game and a few by Okoye up the middle.

Pass coverage wasn't terrible but could easily be better, and for god sakes don't give them the slant route on every play.

Colts line is kinda beaten up, we need to take advantage of that using the Spinner package and using stunts on blitz packages.

Everyone knows how good peyton manning can be, but is off to a slow start and knowing the texans luck he will be on against us but lets pray not.

This is the start of a 4 game homestand, 4 winnable games, it's time to get back on track!

[conquistador#11]

we're going to get ambushed. =(
My prediction of 12- 4 is off to a shaky start.

[ima_drummer2k]

I've got a bad feeling about this...



http://varifrank.com/images/Got_A_Bad_feeling.jpg

[ToyCen428]

Noon Sunday on CBS


Wouldn't be at all surprised if we beat them. Colts havent shown they are unbeatable... all though we haven't won a game only means there HAS to be a first! (lets hope)

[gucci888]

The Colts D hasn't shown they can stop anyone, but neither have the Texans. We should be able to move the ball but our D is gonna have to play really well if we are to have a chance at a win.

[MadMax]

Sure would be nice if they'd win. Moral victories are getting real old.

[Jet Blast]

Texans 29
Colts 23

Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf will call the game for CBS.

[leroy420]

First home game of the season should be more than enough motivation. I hope the crowd is loud as hell...even with the roof permanently open (for this season anyway).

Indy has looked old in their first 3 games. I'm predicting that Slaton runs all over them and AJ finally get's a td...

[Khal80]

I think we have a shot on any given Sunday to beat any NFL. That being said, it could get real ugly if Manning picks apart our secondary. If Garrard could do it, Im sure Manning can figure something out.


It depends on our D, our offense should be there. They are coming off a bye week just giving Harrison and the rest of the banged up players a week to recover, which isnt a good thing. If our crowd is anything like the steelers last night, it should and will give a great boost to a win-less team

[Yak]

Colts - 31
Texans - 19

Manning will pick us apart.

[DonnyMost]

I've got a bad feeling about this...



I see your star wars reference and raise you a...

http://catmas.com/images/2007/07/its-a-trap.jpg

[DieHard Rocket]

We're gonna need a big play or two to really have a shot at this one...either a kick/punt return and/or a defensive touchdown. Last year at home against Indy we got the kick return from Mathis, and had we not thrown a crucial INT in the red zone probably would've stolen the game.

[Grandpappy]

A win would be nice but the Colts are 1-2 and they will be looking to get their season going as well. Peyton Manning is probably licking his chops looking at that secondary. Hopefully Texans can get good pressure without blitzing. Blitzing against Manning is pretty risky proposition he always makes you pay for blitzing. If Slaton can run consistently against that weak run defense and keep Manning off the field maybe they have a shot. Does anone know if Bob Sanders is gonna play? If he does not play then the Texans seriously have a shot barring stupid turnovers by Shaub.

[Uprising]

We need the Schaub that showed up last week. THAT GUY was awesome.

The D needs to step it up, they were beat badly last week by mid passes that turned into long plays.

[hsf09]

we're going to get ambushed. =(
My prediction of 12- 4 is off to a shaky start.

What's it now, 4-12? ;)

[ima_drummer2k]

Hopefully Texans can get good pressure without blitzing.
I guess there's a first time for everything.

[Master Baiter]

Unfortunately, I think that we will get destroyed.

[XBLRocketman111]

A win would be nice but the Colts are 1-2 and they will be looking to get their season going as well. Peyton Manning is probably licking his chops looking at that secondary. Hopefully Texans can get good pressure without blitzing. Blitzing against Manning is pretty risky proposition he always makes you pay for blitzing. If Slaton can run consistently against that weak run defense and keep Manning off the field maybe they have a shot. Does anone know if Bob Sanders is gonna play? If he does not play then the Texans seriously have a shot barring stupid turnovers by Shaub.

BOB SANDERS IS OUT FOR THE GAME!!!!YEAH!!!!! :D

[MadMax]

I will say this...I have Addai on my fantasy team. He will be starting.

[XBLRocketman111]

-slaton has 192 rushing yards and 97 receiving yards in 2 games total of 289 total yards of offense.

-felix jones has 148 rushing yards and 3 receiving yards, toatl of 151 total yards of offense.

-Johnathon stewart has 197 rushing yards and 0 recieving yards, no need to add total!!

- matt forte has 347 rushiing yards in 92 carries and has 18 catches for 147 yards. total of 489. :eek:

-chris johnson has 337 rushing yards and 65 yards receiving total of 402 total yards.

- darren mcfadden has 272 rushing yards and 43 yards receiving total of 315 total yards.

no need to put mendenhall on here not even close to this group, but from what it looks like we have the 3rd best back even though stewart had 5 more rushing yards and 0 receiving yards i would take slaton's 97.

all of those guys besides chris johnson was drafted in the 1st round. and slaton was a 3rd rounder i think we have a pretty good pickup that late, and slotong really hasn't been able to go with no strings attached from kubiac yet but if he got the ball everygame like he did in tennesee 1st half he would be the leading rusher and remember we are still behind veryone by one week!!!

Great PICK UP

[RedRowdy111]

on the forte bandwagon?

[pgabriel]

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all of those guys besides chris johnson was drafted in the 1st round. and slaton was a 3rd rounder i think we have a pretty good pickup that late, and slotong really hasn't been able to go with no strings attached from kubiac yet but if he got the ball everygame like he did in tennesee 1st half he would be the leading rusher and remember we are still behind veryone by one week!!!

Great PICK UP


johnson was a first rounder, late. that dude is awesome, but so is slaton. they really didn't give the credit to slaton for running inside the tackles. his toughness is underrated.

[Legend Killer]

Texans 35
Colts 30

I hate Richard Smith, his defensive schemes are garbage and when he sends Blitzes they never get to the QB.

[Ric]

-felix jones has 148 rushing yards and 3 receiving yards, toatl of 151 total yards of offense.
plus a 98-yard kick return for a TD and a 28.5 KOR average. i'd trade slaton for that guy in a heartbeat....

slaton runs hard and he's fast - but he's too little/not durable enough to be an everydown back in the nfl.

[Rocket River]

slaton runs hard and he's fast - but he's too little/not durable enough to be an everydown back in the nfl.


Where have I heard that before. . . - Sincerely Tiki Barber and Warrick Dunn

Colts without Sanders are vunerable to the pass and the run
so
The offense should score some points

27-30 something like that as a score . . . one way or the other

If the Texans have a less than 7 pt leads with 4 minutes to go
and Colts with the ball . . .. Well . . .it won't look good

Rocket River

[pgabriel]

I just like the name felix, seriously, how many felixes do you meet?

[XBLRocketman111]

johnson was a first rounder, late. that dude is awesome, but so is slaton. they really didn't give the credit to slaton for running inside the tackles. his toughness is underrated.

your right i'm sorry i checked and i didn't see his name in th first round, i should have looked better!

I wouldn't trade slaton quite yet, how can you say he can't be an every down back especially when he played the entire game in tennesee! even kubiac said i couldn't get this guy off the field he was playing so well!!!

That is good for first 3 games as a 3rd rounder, maybe even a diamond in the rough? Plus with his wide reciever experience in college i could see him being a brian westbrook type player agree?

[msn]

I will say this...I have Addai on my fantasy team. He will be starting.
They did pretty good against Drew/whatshisname last week though.

[SamFisher]

I just like the name felix, seriously, how many felixes do you meet?
LOL, that reminds me of an old thread by somebody who posts in other forums a few years ago.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=2645861&highlight=felix#post2645861

[SwoLy-D]

Like I said in another thread, seeing JaX dismantle our secondary and our LBs but seeing JAX beating Indy gives us a good chance. Slaton is going to run circles, just like all RBs do on the Colts. :cool:

Texans 24
Ponies 17

Sorry, Paidtons Manning, your production is going DOWN. :o

¡¡¡VAMOS, TEXANS!!!!!

[pgabriel]

LOL, that reminds me of an old thread by somebody who posts in other forums a few years ago.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=2645861&highlight=felix#post2645861


don't knock jewish running backs

[pgabriel]

your right i'm sorry i checked and i didn't see his name in th first round, i should have looked better!




supposedly the titans got a lot of heat from the fans on the pick

[Ric]

Where have I heard that before. . . - Sincerely Tiki Barber and Warrick Dunn
two exceptions among dozens and dozens... (and barber wasn't an everyday back until late in his career.)

slaton was splitting carries his final year at VW already - he's not an every down back in the NFL; they didn't draft him to be one. the same thing happened to domanick davis - drafted as a kick returner/change of pace back, he emerged as the only good running back so they started using him more and more. they managed to run him into the ground in three pretty short seasons.

[rrj_gamz]

Well, I'd love to see the Texans win, but I don't think it's going to happen...

Texans: 21

Colts: 35

[gucci888]

two exceptions among dozens and dozens... (and barber wasn't an everyday back until late in his career.)

slaton was splitting carries his final year at VW already - he's not an every down back in the NFL; they didn't draft him to be one. the same thing happened to domanick davis - drafted as a kick returner/change of pace back, he emerged as the only good running back so they started using him more and more. they managed to run him into the ground in three pretty short seasons.

Slaton split carries his final year because he was hurt for most of the year, and he still averaged 17 carries per game. You're probably right in that we didn't draft him to be an every down back but that doesn't necessarily mean he can't be. He averaged 23 touches per game during his Junior year so he has carried a full load before.

[Joe Joe]

two exceptions among dozens and dozens... (and barber wasn't an everyday back until late in his career.)

slaton was splitting carries his final year at VW already - he's not an every down back in the NFL; they didn't draft him to be one. the same thing happened to domanick davis - drafted as a kick returner/change of pace back, he emerged as the only good running back so they started using him more and more. they managed to run him into the ground in three pretty short seasons.

What is wrong with splitting carries? The Texans just need to get someone to split carries with him.

[updawg]

I'll be interested in seeing how the Texans show up.

From this article about Johnson, the tone seems pretty down. I hope they aren't quitting.

On being frustrated about losing.....


“I think after a while, it kind of takes a toll on you,” he said.

For the first time, he appears to have had enough. It has been reflected in his body language and in his postgame comments.

When he dropped those two touchdown passes in Tennessee, he did what a leader is supposed to do. He stepped up and accepted the blame for the defeat even though there were a dozen other things that went wrong.

So the Texans go to Jacksonville and Johnson touches the ball three times.

“It’s not just me,” he said. “I’m pretty sure it’s that way with a lot of the guys around the locker room. I guess it just bothers me a little bit more because I’ve been going through it since I’ve been here. So, I just have to continue to work.”
chron (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/6035422.html)

[Uprising]

I'm excited to see / hear the home crowd. Seems like forever since they've been in Reliant.

[emjohn]

I think the offense has a good day against the Colts. Unfortunately, I see our secondary getting abused yet again. God I wish we had NFL-caliber starters back there. At least something above the practice squad All-Stars we've been trotting out.

How's Dunta doing, anyway?

Evan

[msn]

For the first time, he appears to have had enough. It has been reflected in his body language and in his postgame comments.
It's not the first time; it's not even the second time. I've heard comments like this from him a couple of times this year and a couple of times during/after 2005.

[updawg]

It's not the first time; it's not even the second time. I've heard comments like this from him a couple of times this year and a couple of times during/after 2005.

so is this normal for him, or does he appear to be getting more fed up? And same for the rest of the team?

[MadMax]

I'll be interested in seeing how the Texans show up.

From this article about Johnson, the tone seems pretty down. I hope they aren't quitting.

On being frustrated about losing.....


“I think after a while, it kind of takes a toll on you,” he said.

For the first time, he appears to have had enough. It has been reflected in his body language and in his postgame comments.

When he dropped those two touchdown passes in Tennessee, he did what a leader is supposed to do. He stepped up and accepted the blame for the defeat even though there were a dozen other things that went wrong.

So the Texans go to Jacksonville and Johnson touches the ball three times.

“It’s not just me,” he said. “I’m pretty sure it’s that way with a lot of the guys around the locker room. I guess it just bothers me a little bit more because I’ve been going through it since I’ve been here. So, I just have to continue to work.”
chron (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/6035422.html)

No, it's not just you, Andre. It's me too!!! :)

[msn]

so is this normal for him, or does he appear to be getting more fed up? And same for the rest of the team?
I wouldn't say I hear it from him all the time; it's just not the first (or even the second) time I've heard it.

[MadMax]

I wouldn't say I hear it from him all the time; it's just not the first (or even the second) time I've heard it.

Thinking about it from his standpoint....he's on a franchise that really has never sniffed the playoffs. That's endured 2-14 seasons. That's lived from draft day to draft day, instead. It wouldn't be difficult to dream of greener pastures. Who could blame him? At some point you look at it and say, "I only have x years left in this league...is this really how I have to spend it? Are there not better options out there?" And for a guy like Andre, of course there are. He's been a trooper throughout his time here.

[ima_drummer2k]

I like Andre as much as the next guy, but I don't think he walks on water like a lot of other Texan fans seem to think.

If he doesn't drop those 2 TDs against the tits and maybe gets open a few more times against j-ville, who's to say we're not 2-1 right now? And in first place in the division?

Schaub threw for over 300 yards against the jags, so it's not like it was his fault Andre only had 3 catches.

[MadMax]

I like Andre as much as the next guy, but I don't think he walks on water like a lot of other Texan fans seem to think.

If he doesn't drop those 2 TDs against the tits and maybe gets open a few more times against j-ville, who's to say we're not 2-1 right now? And in first place in the division?

Schaub threw for over 300 yards against the jags, so it's not like it was his fault Andre only had 3 catches.

that's true too. but we're talking about 2 game sample size. on a team without much talent for about 5 years, AJ has been one of the very few bright spots. soooo...i totally get his perspective on this.

[pgabriel]

that's true too. but we're talking about 2 game sample size. on a team without much talent for about 5 years, AJ has been one of the very few bright spots. soooo...i totally get his perspective on this.


andre imo could be the best receiver in the game, he is the best complete package since jerry rice, of size speed, athletic ability, quickness, everything. randy moss is the fastest and has the best hands, but he's not the strongest. owens is extremely strong but he doesn't have the speed.

and add to that, despite carr's struggles, he's put up pro bowl numbers a couple of year. and i am discounting the fact that his drops are still an issue.

even randy cross was saying sunday, if he was on a better team he would be considered maybe the best in the game. dude was a big east track champion.

[msn]

and i am discounting the fact that his drops are still an issue.
I don't remember him dropping like he did a couple weeks ago. But if he were to continue dropping like that (God forbid), then that's a discount I'm not willing to grant him.

Speed, power, height, agility, athleticism, tackle-breaking, hell even if he had laser eyes and supersonic flight--all that is worthless if he can't catch the ball.

[pgabriel]

I don't remember him dropping like he did a couple weeks ago. But if he were to continue dropping like that (God forbid), then that's a discount I'm not willing to grant him.

Speed, power, height, agility, athleticism, tackle-breaking, hell even if he had laser eyes and supersonic flight--all that is worthless if he can't catch the ball.


drops was his issue coming out of college, but no he hasn't had a lot.

[msn]

drops was his issue coming out of college, but no he hasn't had a lot.
Ah. Thanks for the clarification.

[Ric]

i think johnson's overrated; he gets negated easier than any other "elite" receiver in football. i like that all jacksonville had to do was roll their coverage to his side (per kubiak) - what a revelation! funny how teams can't seem to do that against other teams with elite receivers, like the patriots, the cowboys, the packers...... i realize those are *better* teams but it's not like walter, davis and daniels are junk.

johnson struggles to get separation and the next time he blows a game open will be the first time he blows a game open. this is his sixth year; he has 5 catches of 50 or more yards in his career. corey bradford had 6 in his 4 years here so no playing the david carr card - he never had schaub throwing to him.

hell, randy moss had 5 just last year - why were teams not rolling coverage to him? too afraid wes welker and his pedestrian 10.5 yds/catch and blazing speed were going to burn 'em? in fact, moss averages 15.7 yds/catch for his career; johnson has never averaged 15 yards a catch in any of his 6 seasons.

he's very good, but not great, and certainly not elite. and i'm with ima - catch at least one of those balls in tennessee and that's a totally different game.

[Uprising]

WHOOO! Game day! Finally a Houston crowd to here yelling on tv. :D

[cdastros]

Sage will start. Matt schaub to the hospital with an illness.

[BmwM3]

Ummm breaking news!! Sage is starting today. Schaub went to the hospital last night for undisclosed reasons. They say he's active though.

[macalu]

Sage starting will open a whole can of worms, especially if we win.

[MadMax]

Ummm breaking news!! Sage is starting today. Schaub went to the hospital last night for undisclosed reasons. They say he's active though.

now the undisclosed reason is: virus

i think it's rage virus. i'm afraid.

[Egghead]

we don't have a 3rd qb... so if sage went down......Owen Daniels would play qb!

[kaleidosky]

annoying, cause i really think schaub was set to continue his ways.

hope sage performs, and i hope there's no controversy after he leads us to a win!

[leroy420]

we don't have a 3rd qb... so if sage went down......Owen Daniels would play qb!

I believe there was one on the practice squad they could activate.

[MadMax]

Sage starting will open a whole can of worms, especially if we win.

and if we lose, it gives us another excuse on monday morning.

[MiddleMan]

sage ftw!!!!!

[Bobblehead]

Man this could be a nightmare for Shaub if Sage goes out there and gets the first "W" of season against an arch rival in the home opener!!!

[mrdave543]

Should be interesting to see how Rosenfels plays today under the pressure and if he does get the W, what happenes to Schaub rest of the season.


Prediction

Colts 30

Texans 24


I am actually rooting for the texans to win today to help out the Titans with a win over the colts!

[updawg]

and if we lose, it gives us another excuse on monday morning.
unfortunately very true

[Uprising]

Damn. Ofcourse this happens right the game after Schaub began to show some life.

[JunkyardDwg]

It's weird when you think that the NFL season is five weeks old and the Texans are finally playing their home opener.

[Rokkit]

Mario-Demeco combination. Nice.

[Nick]

It's weird when you think that the NFL season is five weeks old and the Texans are finally playing their home opener.

Apparently, we're not allowed to use excuses any more for defending the Texans.

[manbearpig]

Andre Davis sucks, he cant even get to the 20. WHat the hell happened to the guy who scored like 3 touchdowns last year?

[arkoe]

Well, our D line looks excited.

[Nick]

Marvin Harrison knows exactly where the first down marker is... Andre Johnson does not.

[The Cat]

Marvin Harrison knows exactly where the first down marker is... Andre Johnson does not.

No, it's more like both were at the identical spot relative to the first down... but as usual, the officials give the benefit of the doubt to Peyton Manning and his cast of whiners. I hate that team more than any other in all of sports, and that's the reason.

[arkoe]

Reeves' inability to find the ball is amazing.

[The Cat]

The real difference in this game is the officials. Colts have two fourth-and-inches, they go for both and get points both times. Texans have fourth-and-inches, and punt. Cowards.

[tmactoyao]

what's up with reeves not being able to look for the freaking ball.. :mad:

[Rokkit]

Why the **** can't Reeves learn to look for the ball?

[Behad]

The first quarter is not even over, and I'm already screaming for Dan Deirdolf to shut his freaking mouth :mad: :mad:

[Nick]

No, it's more like both were at the identical spot relative to the first down... but as usual, the officials give the benefit of the doubt to Peyton Manning and his cast of whiners. I hate that team more than any other in all of sports, and that's the reason.

You're normally pretty reasonable... but in this case (on re-watching it), AJ never passed the first down marker... whereas Harrison did. That helped him get the benefit of the doubt a tad more than simply being a Colt.

Jacques Reeves is not looking like an NFL-calibur corner back... not even close.

[Shroopy2]

what's up with reeves not being able to look for the freaking ball.. :mad:
Not even Ric can justify Manning simply delivering an undefendable "perfect ball" :p

[ind0fo0]

The real difference in this game is the officials. Colts have two fourth-and-inches, they go for both and get points both times. Texans have fourth-and-inches, and punt. Cowards.


umm. except for the fact that the texans' fourth-and-inches was on the colts' 30 or so...

[The Cat]

You're normally pretty reasonable... but in this case (on re-watching it), AJ never passed the first down marker... whereas Harrison did. That helped him get the benefit of the doubt a tad more than simply being a Colt.

Jacques Reeves is not looking like an NFL-calibur corner back... not even close.

Hmm, hope they show it on the highlights... cause I could've sworn Harrison was about a half-yard short when he caught the ball. (Yes, he broke off the route past the marker, but when he caught it I think he was just short.)

In the end, though, it wouldn't have mattered -- the Colts would've gone for fourth and inches, like any reasonable team would, and made it. Their willingness to take chances, and our reluctance, is the difference thus far. What makes it even more bizarre is that Kubiak took too many chances against Tennessee... I really can't get a read on how he thinks at all.

[MadMax]

Apparently, we're not allowed to use excuses any more for defending the Texans.

There should be a 7 year statute of limitations.

I'm tired of hearing excuses. Win.

[The Cat]

umm. except for the fact that the texans' fourth-and-inches was on the colts' 30 or so...

There's no legitimate reason, especially against a superior offense like the Colts, to ever not go for fourth and inches. I know it's the ultra-conservative NFL where any outside the box thinking is frowned upon, but from a statistical standpoint, it's an easy call to go for it. Especially considering the Colts' offense and the Texans' defense.

[Shroopy2]

The real difference in this game is the officials. Colts have two fourth-and-inches, they go for both and get points both times. Texans have fourth-and-inches, and punt. Cowards.
Kubiak went for like 19 fourth down the first 2 games. Now they're taking it conservative. At least Kubiak is learning?

[Nick]

In the end, though, it wouldn't have mattered -- the Colts would've gone for fourth and inches, like any reasonable team would, and made it. Their willingness to take chances, and our reluctance, is the difference thus far. What makes it even more bizarre is that Kubiak took too many chances against Tennessee... I really can't get a read on how he thinks at all.

Its not that hard to figure him out... if Kubiak's 4th and inches are where the Colts had them, he'd porbably go for them. Of course, we've been unable to rush the ball thus-far against one of the worst run-defenses in the league... so perhaps that speaks more about the capability of this team to execute period.

Sage starting to look more comfortable... lets stretch them downfield.

[tmactoyao]

Sage is looking great out there

[ind0fo0]

ATTN HOUSTON: We have a new QB 1.

[Nick]

There should be a 7 year statute of limitations.

I'm tired of hearing excuses. Win.

Okay... and if they don't, there has to be reasons... like the team isn't good enough.

If you're mad that they're not good enough to be a year-in/year-out playoff team at this point, you might as well stop watching them.

And, there are plenty of reasons why this team isn't good enough yet... but when people talk about them, they sound like excuses... which apparently we can't do anymore in year 7.

[CaseyH]

SAGE!!!!!

[kaleidosky]

ATTN HOUSTON: We have a new QB 1.

a guy looks good for 5 passes and he's the new QB. great.

schaub's great game last week does nothing for him. smart.

[The Cat]

Kubiak went for like 19 fourth down the first 2 games. Now they're taking it conservative. At least Kubiak is learning?

The problem with his fourth down gambles the first two games (except the Pittsburgh one, where he was just screwed twice on the spot) was that they all came from three and four yards out. At that point, punting or kicking is very reasonable, especially if you have guaranteed points.

If you can't make a foot on a given play, you don't deserve to win. I'm perfectly content with losing a game if our offense can't do that.

[Nick]

Again, another person pointing out the "uniqueness" of them having to play the entire season with the roof open.

If its such a big deal.... WHY DID THEY BUILD A RETRACTABLE ROOF in the first place?

Also, the weather only gets better/cooler as the season goes on... so it shouldn't be that big of a deal by the 4th or so home game.

[JunkyardDwg]

Dammit Kubiak put Slaton back in :mad:

[Storm Surge]

Sage is better for this team than Schaub how come when Sage comes in Andre Johnson magically gets the ball a lot more often?

coincidence?

[kaleidosky]

There's no legitimate reason, especially against a superior offense like the Colts, to ever not go for fourth and inches. I know it's the ultra-conservative NFL where any outside the box thinking is frowned upon, but from a statistical standpoint, it's an easy call to go for it. Especially considering the Colts' offense and the Texans' defense.

you know how this goes. it's smart statistically, but none of the teams (even the Colts against us today) would have gone for it on their own 30.

not something to complain about and call kubiak/staff cowards about..

[tmactoyao]

marlon jackson cant stop andre: pass interference, got juked tsk tsk
Touchdown time!

[Shroopy2]

The problem with his fourth down gambles the first two games (except the Pittsburgh one, where he was just screwed twice on the spot) was that they all came from three and four yards out. At that point, punting or kicking is very reasonable, especially if you have guaranteed points.

If you can't make a foot on a given play, you don't deserve to win. I'm perfectly content with losing a game if our offense can't do that.
I forgot to put a sarcastic smiley on that. I agree, hard to get a read on what Kubiak's trying to do. I think probably early in the game dont take chances putting yourselves in a bigger hole (still conservative thinking). But now that they're in as usual comeback mode they'll start going for it

[kaleidosky]

Sage is better for this team than Schaub how come when Sage comes in Andre Johnson magically gets the ball a lot more often?

coincidence?

I think after not getting the ball to Andre at all last week, whoever was playing this week was definitely gonna be forced to throw it to him (by design)

[JunkyardDwg]

Dammit Kubiak put Slaton back in :mad:

Yes thank you!!

[Astro101]

There you go Texans.

[The Cat]

you know how this goes. it's smart statistically, but none of the teams (even the Colts against us today) would have gone for it on their own 30.

not something to complain about and call kubiak/staff cowards about..

I know that in my head, it's just really frustrating to watch -- especially when you have the Texans defense and the Colts offense. If ever a time to think outside the box, this would be the situation.

In any event, SLATON! This offense runs so smooth with Sage.

[MadMax]

sweet! love me some slaton

[arkoe]

This offense runs so smooth with Sage.

Agreed, cut your losses and name him starter.

[kaleidosky]

In any event, SLATON! This offense runs so smooth with Sage.

I agree.. but man I wish Schaub was in. He ran things well last week, and the Colts secondary gives up some big plays. I wish we could see what he could do if he was healthy today (but obviously then you wouldn't get to see what Sage could do)

[ind0fo0]

ATTN HOUSTON: We have a new QB 1.

congrats to schaub on his one good game this season. sage has been consistently good.

[kaleidosky]

congrats to schaub on his one good game this season. sage has been consistently good.

consistently all 1 drives?

[MadMax]

Okay... and if they don't, there has to be reasons... like the team isn't good enough.

If you're mad that they're not good enough to be a year-in/year-out playoff team at this point, you might as well stop watching them.

And, there are plenty of reasons why this team isn't good enough yet... but when people talk about them, they sound like excuses... which apparently we can't do anymore in year 7.

blah blah blah. i'm still watching, nick. make all the excuses you want. i certainly can't stop you. i'm just tired of them. tired of every texans game thread reading the same way. want to see some damn wins instead of the analysis of the peanut gallery here telling me why it's really all ok.

hopefully they'll win today so it won't be an issue.

[Nick]

Haha... Peyton just crapped his pants when he saw Mario beat his man around the corner.

[MadMax]

mario is a freaking man

[arkoe]

Hey look, a sack!

[Shroopy2]

Sage is better for this team than Schaub how come when Sage comes in Andre Johnson magically gets the ball a lot more often?

coincidence?
Sage was working it with Kevin Walter and Jacoby Jones units last year. Now he see's big AJ now there and he's saying to himself YEAH I'm throwing to that guy.

Again, another person pointing out the "uniqueness" of them having to play the entire season with the roof open.

If its such a big deal.... WHY DID THEY BUILD A RETRACTABLE ROOF in the first place?

Also, the weather only gets better/cooler as the season goes on... so it shouldn't be that big of a deal by the 4th or so home game.
Or build a stronger roof. Minute Maid didnt have near as much issues.

If you can control the environment you do it

[tmactoyao]

good defensive drive
back to SAGE and the offense

[macalu]

damn jacoby, make up your mind!

[kaleidosky]

Hey look, a sack!

yeah seriously. Thank goodness we're finally getting some pressure today (even saw some on the earlier drives)

[arkoe]

Wow, Jones. Just wow. He may have let more go by this year than he's bothered to try to catch.

[BrooksBall]

No credit to Reeves on that play. Receiver should've caught it.

[ind0fo0]

damn jacoby, make up your mind!
scrweeddddd. bounced back like 8 yardsssss.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[kaleidosky]

damn jacoby, make up your mind!

lucky he was smart at the end and didn't touch it on that last choice...almost a sure fumble waiting to happen

[macalu]

it sucks to see, but that shot of Schaub is eerily reminiscent of Carr when he was benched in the 2nd half.

[tmactoyao]

ANDRE JOHNSON! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MARLON JACKSON

[Astro101]

Thank goodness AJ is getting touches. Keep him happy, Sage!

[wakkoman]

SAGE SAGE SAGE

[Storm Surge]

SAGE ROSENFELS SHOULD BE THE STARTING QB

[DonnyMost]

Guess I have to change my signature now.

[ind0fo0]

a guy looks good for 5 passes and he's the new QB. great.

schaub's great game last week does nothing for him. smart.


SAY WHAT? :D :D Sage finds AJ better than anyone!

[wallyj12]

Sage has looked confident and comfortable when hes out there. Im glad he came to play

[tmactoyao]

boo ahman green

[Astro101]

Dammit!

[macalu]

uh, what kind of play call was that on 3rd and long??? :mad:

[kaleidosky]

SAY WHAT? :D :D Sage finds AJ better than anyone!

based on what Schaub showed last year and more importantly last week, I'm gonna say he should still be the starter regardless of what happens.

And that was a horrid throw into triple coverage right there..

[Nick]

Just when the offense starts to look in-sync, Ahman Green comes in and restores normality.

[The Cat]

What an embarrassing, terrible call. The stumble doesn't matter -- that play was stopped even if he doesn't fall. That's on you, Kubes. Again.

[Smokey]

How does Green keep robbing a NFL paycheck?

[Nick]

it sucks to see, but that shot of Schaub is eerily reminiscent of Carr when he was benched in the 2nd half.

Why, did Carr ever have a virus a week after a 300+ yard passing, 3TD performance?

Sage vs. Schaub should be an issue... but I may be the only one who may think its a GOOD thing that we have 2 QB's capable of running the offense.

[kaleidosky]

Just when the offense starts to look in-sync, Ahman Green comes in and restores normality.

I wish Ahman didn't have those 2 plays where he looked so-so.. just so they wouldn't think about playing him more. Wish they'd run Slaton all game.. he wasn't worked too bad the first 3 weeks (incl. the bye), so he won't hit the rookie wall for a while

[arkoe]

How does Green keep robbing a NFL paycheck?

I'm to the point where I'm perfectly happy paying him not to play.

[v3.0]

Horrible call, horrible attempt of a run by Green.

Seriously, how much of a salary hit would we take if we cut Green now?

[Smokey]

PS They have to stop showing Schaub on the sidelines. He has a "oh crap my job is gone" look.

[MadMax]

Why, did Carr ever have a virus a week after a 300+ yard passing, 3TD performance?

Sage vs. Schaub should be an issue... but I may be the only one who may think its a GOOD thing that we have 2 QB's capable of running the offense.

i adopt this post and add only that i wished carr would have caught more viruses while he was here. nothing too serious...just enough for someone else to play.

[leroy420]

Gotta keep getting pressure on Manning and stopping the run

DEFENSE

DEFENSE

DEFENSE

[tmactoyao]

my goodness, good throw but cmon 2 defenders!

[BrooksBall]

Terrible pass defense.

[Nick]

Dan Dierdorf brought his a-game today.... or maybe its been awhile since they assigned a quality broadcasting crew to a Texans game because of their ineptitude.

[MadMax]

it appears to me the texans are doing a better job of tackling today. hitting harder, too.

[kaleidosky]

Sage vs. Schaub should be an issue... but I may be the only one who may think its a GOOD thing that we have 2 QB's capable of running the offense.

I think most on here probably agree. Most just seem to think Sage has earned the #1 and Schaub has lost it.

If Schaub had sucked last week, I would have agreed. But Schaub sucking against the #1 D (Tenn) and a top 5 D (Pitt)...and succeeding against a pretty good D in Jacksonville.. that seems understandable.

Whereas Sage succeeding against a below-average D in Indy thus far..just doesn't scream "here's your starter" to me.

[Nick]

it appears to me the texans are doing a better job of tackling today. hitting harder, too.

Looks like they have a little bit extra energy... couldn't be because they're playing at home, could it?

I don't want to make excuses as to why they're playing well... :D ;)

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

good to see a home game, the texans needed that.

[arkoe]

About time for Reeves to find the ball.

[ind0fo0]

WOW Reeves found his arms!!!!

[leroy420]

NICE RECOVERY BY REEVES!

[tmactoyao]

FINALLY REEVES !
good job at looking back
see what happens when you do?

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

DEEEE- FENSE!!!!

[BrooksBall]

Now, Reeves does get credit for that play...

[Astro101]

Yea baby.

[kaleidosky]

what a hell of a play by reeves..and now a miss! in business!

[MadMax]

Looks like they have a little bit extra energy... couldn't be because they're playing at home, could it?

I don't want to make excuses as to why they're playing well... :D ;)

i'm ignoring that last part because i like you.

i'm just frustrated with them generally...but really enjoying them today!

[leroy420]

F*** YEAH!

LETS GO TAKE THE LEAD!

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

is peyton wearing bigger shoulder pads?

[MadMax]

is peyton wearing bigger shoulder pads?

very trendy for ladies in the 80's

[BrooksBall]

Quick release by Sage under pressure. Not sure Schaub makes that play.

[MadMax]

man, if they take the lead going into halftime i'm going to dance a jig.

[ind0fo0]

I think most on here probably agree. Most just seem to think Sage has earned the #1 and Schaub has lost it.

If Schaub had sucked last week, I would have agreed. But Schaub sucking against the #1 D (Tenn) and a top 5 D (Pitt)...and succeeding against a pretty good D in Jacksonville.. that seems understandable.

Whereas Sage succeeding against a below-average D in Indy thus far..just doesn't scream "here's your starter" to me.

look. QB is the only position on a team whose individual stats mean less than how they lead the team.

i could care less how could schaub played last week. what is their record with schaub this season? its time to play rosenfels. him finding aj better than schaub is just a plus.

[macalu]

Why, did Carr ever have a virus a week after a 300+ yard passing, 3TD performance?

Sage vs. Schaub should be an issue... but I may be the only one who may think its a GOOD thing that we have 2 QB's capable of running the offense.
i'm referring to the way Schaub was looking on the sidelines, with his hands on his shoulder pads AND his #8 jersey.

[kaleidosky]

look. QB is the only position on a team whose individual stats mean less than how they lead the team.

i could care less how could schaub played last week. what is their record with schaub this season? its time to play rosenfels. him finding aj better than schaub is just a plus.

Understood and agreed. My point is that I don't know that Sage would look any better than Schaub facing Pitt (esp. going down by a lot early) or Tenn. So it's not a fair comparison.

[arkoe]

i'm referring to the way Schaub was looking on the sidelines, with his hands on his shoulder pads AND his #8 jersey.

Deja vu.

[Nick]

That was a TERRIBLE decision to run the ball on 2nd and 3.

Looks like the Texans are playing not to lose... not to win.

[Astro101]

This game feels very brisk to me. I guess when things are clicking time flies by instead of you hoping the game would end already.

[kaleidosky]

That was a TERRIBLE decision to run the ball on 2nd and 3.

Looks like the Texans are playing not to lose... not to win.

yup. And Ahman no less.. hesitant.

[macalu]

That was a TERRIBLE decision to run the ball on 2nd and 3.

Looks like the Texans are playing not to lose... not to win.
:confused: 2nd and 3 would seem like the ideal time to run the ball.

[BrooksBall]

This game feels very brisk to me. I guess when things are clicking time flies by instead of you hoping the game would end already.

Not a lot of penalties helps.

[arkoe]

Why don't they have two or three plays called in that time out?

[kaleidosky]

Not a lot of penalties helps.

yeah few penalties, no challenges, only that 1 timeout by Indy until the last few mins

[tmactoyao]

Rosenfels ability to find Johnson is GREAT
WOOT GOALINE!

[BrooksBall]

Short of a total collapse in the 2nd half, the starting QB for next week is a no-brainer.

[Nick]

:confused: 2nd and 3 would seem like the ideal time to run the ball.

Actually, I'm always looking for the pass on 2nd and short. Worst-case scenario, its incomplete and you still have a makeable 3rd and short (where you can run there).

The fact that 40 seconds came off the clock was my main beef... but they're clearly trying to leave zero time on the clock before halftime (which may only get them 3 points, but guarantees Indy gets zero).

I think in this game, 3 points is not enough... they have to get a TD here.

[arkoe]

If they score, I'm happy.

But again, not too impressed with the time out management here.

[tmactoyao]

ANDREEEEEEE
SAGEEE!

[The Cat]

SAGE!!!!!!!

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

YYYEAAAAAAAAHHHHH BOOOOIIII!!!

[Astro101]

ANDRE!

[v3.0]

:confused: 2nd and 3 would seem like the ideal time to run the ball.
depends...if you're passing well, good time to throw downfield, you can still run for the first on 3rd.

[MadMax]

VERY impressive. Now that's fun to watch!

[kaleidosky]

Sage looks great. Schaub would have looked great (I hope) :cool:

Either way, I love it

[leroy420]

HELL F*** YEAH!


GO TEXANS!

[updawg]

Nice job by Sage

[Harrisment]

I think the Texans officially have a QB controversy.

[Storm Surge]

I think the Texans officially have a QB controversy.
what controversy? Sage has shown repeatedly he can run the team better than Schaub

[macalu]

I think the Texans officially have a QB controversy.
sports talk radio Monday morning will be nothing short of boring.

[JPM0016]

I think the Texans officially have a QB controversy.

I'm not one to give up on my starting QB, but i have to agree with you. It's a good problem to have.

[stipendlax]

I think the Texans officially have a QB controversy.

Too bad Kubiak is going to live or die with Schaub.

[BrooksBall]

That TD pass was incredible. Sage had to not only place it well on the run but also had to throw it soft enough so Andre could come from behind the defender. Impressive.

[JunkyardDwg]

Sage has done well...but I think it's important to see how he responds when he faces some real pressure...as in face buried in grass pressure.

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

wtf just happened to my HD feed... the pic just shrunk...

[Nick]

Ugh... might as well give them 3 points if they're going to go to prevent defense.

[leroy420]

C'mon boys. Don't give up points now!

[Harrisment]

Stupid CBS just f'ed up and switched to an SD feed. I want my HD back! :mad:

[arkoe]

wtf just happened to my HD feed... the pic just shrunk...

It crapped out... they're upconverting from SD right now.

[tmactoyao]

INTRO!

[Astro101]

Things are CLICKING!

[leroy420]

wtf just happened to my HD feed... the pic just shrunk...

Not just HD feed


WHAT A PICK BY DILES!

[kaleidosky]

Sage has done well...but I think it's important to see how he responds when he faces some real pressure...as in face buried in grass pressure.

my official test would be Tenn. I hope he gets to play the Tenn game later in the year.. if he succeeds there where Schaub didn't, I'll eat crow

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

if they could score in 11 seconds, id flip out.

[Harrisment]

Ugh... might as well give them 3 points if they're going to go to prevent defense.

That defense just got us an INT. :D

[The Cat]

Sage has done well...but I think it's important to see how he responds when he faces some real pressure...as in face buried in grass pressure.

That's just the thing, though -- he inherently won't see pressure as much because of his mobility. What made the play on the touchdown to Andre is how Sage moved the pocket and bought more time. Schaub can't do that. They might have similar 40 times, but in terms of game speed and making plays, Sage is a much more mobile player and will beat the pressure more.

[v3.0]

please take a shot downfield before half

[RedRaiderRocket]

Shaub's face was priceless after the last td little to no emotion looked more upset than happy.

[BrooksBall]

Probably defensive pass interference too.

Looks like the defense got some fire in them playing with the lead. They're also getting rest with the Texans offense staying on the field.

[Nick]

Kudos to Deirdorf noticing the good play by Duane Brown (who is looking better and better each game).

Of course, he's a former lineman... so I wouldn't expect any less.

[RedRaiderRocket]

But Sage has been awesome and props to Reeves for making that play in the end zone vs. Wayne.

[leroy420]

Absolutely incredible first half by the Texans. You have to be sure that the Colts will figure something out at halftime. Got to keep running the ball well and keep putting the ball in AJ's hands. That combined with the defense getting Manning and crew off the field in 3 plays and the Texans have their first win of the season.

GO TEXANS!!!

[Oski2005]

LOL, "Ostrich burger?"

"Ostrich's not a burger it's a bird."

I said the same thing to my sister when she told me that ostrich burgers were good.

[WhoMikeJames]

LOL, "Ostrich burger?"

"Ostrich's not a burger it's a bird."

I said the same thing to my sister when she told me that ostrich burgers were good.

Those are real? Wow...

also, does this mean Rosenfels gets the go ahead next week if we a get W?

[ind0fo0]

Those are real? Wow...

also, does this mean Rosenfels gets the go ahead next week if we a get W?

hopefully!

[arkoe]

also, does this mean Rosenfels gets the go ahead next week if we a get W?

Knowing Kubiak... no.

[tmactoyao]

Those are real? Wow...

also, does this mean Rosenfels gets the go ahead next week if we a get W?
i like schaub, but as the saying goes, "if it aint broke dont fix it"

[kaleidosky]

Those are real? Wow...

also, does this mean Rosenfels gets the go ahead next week if we a get W?

i hope not

[CaseyH]

Sage has done well...but I think it's important to see how he responds when he faces some real pressure...as in face buried in grass pressure.
why would he allow himself to get sacked. He just throws the ball.

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

does anyone else think that the upper deck looks kinda empty? i know they said its a sellout (as usual), but is it really? ive seen a few empty seats up there during the 1st half

[KingCheetah]

SAGE, SAGE, SAGE !!

:D

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

it worked out well that HD effed up just before halftime so that they could fix it before the 3rd quarter started.

Leach just trucked that DB.

[JeopardE]

Vonta Leach ... wow that was a vicious finish.

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

i dont like seeing slaton getting hit like that.

[ind0fo0]

Vonta Leach ... wow that was a vicious finish.

haha. to say the least. he like jumped 4 yards after the tackle!!!
(all made possible by sage)

[RedRaiderRocket]

I don't want to sound like a Shaub hater because he had a great great game last week vs a strong Jaguars defense. But the offense looks like a lot more fluid with Sage as the Qb.

[JeopardE]

We officially have a running back.

[Harrisment]

does anyone else think that the upper deck looks kinda empty? i know they said its a sellout (as usual), but is it really? ive seen a few empty seats up there during the 1st half

If it wasn't a sellout then the game wouldn't be on local TV. EVERY Texans home game has been a sell out. That doesn't mean everyone actually shows up though.

[DreamRoxCoogFan]

If it wasn't a sellout then the game wouldn't be on local TV. EVERY Texans home game has been a sell out. That doesn't mean everyone actually shows up though.

thats what i mean, its reported as a sellout, but I wanna know how many people are actually there...

[BrooksBall]

Daniels blew too catches in a row.

[The Cat]

If the Texans lose this game, it's on Owen Daniels. We had a chance to take complete command, and he blew it -- twice.

[stipendlax]

Damnit Owens, you have to make those catches.

[ind0fo0]

Daniels blew too catches in a row.

what happened to kevin walter? is he injured?

[Air Langhi]

if that was shaub that would have been a sack.

[desihooper]

going up two scores there would've been HUGE... hope the defense can keep getting the Colts off the field at least a couple more time

[ind0fo0]

wow these commentators are aholes. "travis was as happy as could be yesterday.... not anymore.".


hope its not serious.

[macalu]

travis johnson looks hurt...i guess this means we won't be missing much.

[Shroopy2]

I don't want to sound like a Shaub or formerly Carr hater because he had a great great game. But the offense looks like a lot more fluid with Sage as the Qb since 2006.

FIFY.

[Nick]

wow these commentators are aholes. "travis was as happy as could be yesterday.... not anymore.".


hope its not serious.

They're probably referring to the interaction the broadcasting crew has with the team the day before games.... maybe he was especially jovial with them or something.

Mario forces that incompletion by sticking his huge paw in the face of Manning... can't be measures simply by sacks.

[BrooksBall]

Defense getting porous.

[kaleidosky]

nice stretch now by bennett.. good plays, can't wait for dunta..

[BrooksBall]

what happened to kevin walter? is he injured?

Not sure. I'm sure somebody else here does.

[Rokkit]

Hell yeah.

D working its ass off.

[JeopardE]

Heh, Mario Williams was about to plant Peyton into the turf there...

[TMac640]

I really really like what I'm seeing so far./

[halfbreed]

Texans' defense is doing extremely well.

Peyton and Marvin have been off all year, I wonder what the deal is.

[Nick]

Heh, Mario Williams was about to plant Peyton into the turf there...

Yep. He definitely has forced QB's to made adjustments because of his play. If he only had just a little bit of help, he'd be even more effective.

[BrooksBall]

We likely have at least 3 more points if Daniels made the 2nd of two fairly easy catches on the last drive.

[TMac640]

What's the word on Travis Johnson?

[Yak]

It's really disappointing that we're 0-3 and have virtually no playoff hopes.

But great game so far.

[v3.0]

What's the word on Travis Johnson?
He's a bust.