Dental: Deep Cleaning- Is it a scam???

[Jeremiah]

I'll be leaving my old job soon and I won't have dental any more. The only reason I'm really carrying it this year is for my wife's wisdom teeth, but I get a free cleaning out of it. I went today and the dentist recommended a 'deep cleaning' (periodontal scaling). Instead of free it will cost me $175 out of pocket.

Anyone had one of these? Is it worth it? $175 isn't a terrible amount of money, I've never had it done, and I'm getting older so I need to take care of myself. I know you can buy stuff to clean out the periodontal areas (under the gums). I'm a little torn on what to do and need to make a decision fast.

[Bandwagoner]

If they are not cutting your guns and sewing them back up (which would cost more than 175) it is a scam as most dentists would do it for the normal price.

Also you should go to the dentist more often. Thats gross dude.

[EssTooKayTD]

If it's the cleaning I'm thinking about it's a pretty uncomfortable procedure. It's like this metal hook that uses sonic power to clean your teeth and gums? Also shoots medicine in there.

Is it worth it? Hell if I know. I just know I never needed laughing gas for the dentist, but after receiving my last cleaning, I might actually do it next time. I've had a couple of root canals and stuff done, but that cleaning was the most uncomfortable I've felt in a dentist chair before.

Have fun :) Again...I could be mixing up the procedures.

[Jeremiah]

If they are not cutting your guns and sewing them back up (which would cost more than 175) it is a scam as most dentists would do it for the normal price.

Also you should go to the dentist more often. Thats gross dude.

It's $175 out of pocket. It's close to $700, but the dental insurance covers most of it- I have to pay that $175.

I get my teeth cleaned every 18 months or so because I really take care of them. The dentist said that my teeth looked good, so I guess it's enough. The 'deep cleaning' gets down in the gums where tooth brushes cant reach.

Not positive on the procedure, but they do numb everything up and go to town, and suggest doing it by 'quadrant' in four different visits.

[Pole]

You need to floss more often. I'd spend the money. $175 is cheap, and you don't want gum disease.

[Bandwagoner]

It's $175 out of pocket. It's close to $700, but the dental insurance covers most of it- I have to pay that $175.

I get my teeth cleaned every 18 months or so because I really take care of them. The dentist said that my teeth looked good, so I guess it's enough. The 'deep cleaning' gets down in the gums where tooth brushes cant reach.

Not positive on the procedure, but they do numb everything up and go to town, and suggest doing it by 'quadrant' in four different visits.
Yeah 18 months is not nearly enough. There are some areas you just cannot get to. You are supposed to go often enough to they are cleaned before they become a problem.

He probably meant in fundamental good shape meaning you have not lost enough bone for them to fall out yet.

[Gutter Snipe]

It's a scam dude. I broke a crown so I ended up in Castle Dental. They gave me the same spiel - you have some 3 & 4 depth pockets, you need to come in for two separate visits for deep planing and cleaning or whatever.

When I went to the UT Dental center a month later, the doctor told me that my teeth were fine. He said he interviewed at Castle and didn't take the job because pushing unnecessary services was part of the job description.

[NateNate]

If it's the cleaning I'm thinking about it's a pretty uncomfortable procedure. It's like this metal hook that uses sonic power to clean your teeth and gums? Also shoots medicine in there.

Is it worth it? Hell if I know. I just know I never needed laughing gas for the dentist, but after receiving my last cleaning, I might actually do it next time. I've had a couple of root canals and stuff done, but that cleaning was the most uncomfortable I've felt in a dentist chair before.

Have fun :) Again...I could be mixing up the procedures.

Hey quick question.... im having a root canal done soon...what can i expect? also do you remember how much it was before insurance?

[Bandwagoner]

Hey quick question.... im having a root canal done soon...what can i expect? also do you remember how much it was before insurance?
I've never had one but

depending on how many roots the tooth has you can probably expect long times drilling. and well over 1000 without insurance,

[Uprising]

Man, I've got to go. Been like 5-6 yrs since I last went to the dentist. Have straight teeth but could use a cleaning.

[Bandwagoner]

Man, I've got to go. Been like 5-6 yrs since I last went to the dentist. Have straight teeth but could use a cleaning.
yeah dude getting your teeth routinely isn;t a joke.

It is kinda needed if you want to keep them in your head.

[chow_yun_fat]

Is deep cleaning the same as normal cleaning?

I remember way back it used to be roughly $50. This changed due to a new restriction? the dental association put in place. They have to x-ray/inspect your teeth first before they can do a cleaning. I'm assuming some people had problems after cleaning and sued the dentist....or they just want more money for a simple procedure.

[Bandwagoner]

Is deep cleaning the same as normal cleaning?

I remember way back it used to be roughly $50. This changed due to a new restriction? the dental association put in place. They have to x-ray/inspect your teeth first before they can do a cleaning. I'm assuming some people had problems after cleaning and sued the dentist....or they just want more money for a simple procedure.
it came about by insurance giving less and less for the routine cleanings.

The dentist gets so little (because the cleaning is no out of pocket for the patient) that he must make up stuff in order to get any real cash.

The dentists negotiated their salaries to low to survive so have to do anything to make ends meet.

So what they do is they meet you and charge your insurance the normal rate then get another piece by doing additional work which will be at your 70% or 90% rate.

[Jeremiah]

it came about by insurance giving less and less for the routine cleanings.

The dentist gets so little (because the cleaning is no out of pocket for the patient) that he must make up stuff in order to get any real cash.

The dentists negotiated their salaries to low to survive so have to do anything to make ends meet.

So what they do is they meet you and charge your insurance the normal rate then get another piece by doing additional work which will be at your 70% or 90% rate.

That's exactly what I thought. But is the deep cleaning really needed?

[Bogey]

I had one place tell me I needed the deep cleaning and would not give me a normal cleaning. I went to another place and they checked and said I was borderline. When I went back to them later in the year, they said I wasn't even borderline anymore. I think the addition of an electric toothbrush really helps.

[Fatty FatBastard]

That's exactly what I thought. But is the deep cleaning really needed?

Uhh. Yes, especially if you're insured.

The girl I'm dating has been a dental hygenist for years. After some goading, I set up an appointment to get my teeth cleaned. I have no dental insurance, so I shopped around. I found a place that said they would give me a cleaning and x-rays for $231.

I went to get them cleaned, and they did the x-rays and checked my teeth measurements. I had some 4 and 5 mm pockets on my back molars, and said I needed a deep cleaning. 4 quadrants at $205/per. So, basically, they wanted to charge me over $1,000 for a freaking cleaning. I was pissed.

So I brought the x-rays and perio charts to my girl to have her look at them. She said the pricing was a little high, but nothing too outrageous. Anyway, she got me in a couple weeks ago, and did it herself, so I didn't have to shell out the $800+ on the deep cleaning. But she scolded me for my back teeth while she was cleaning them.

Essentially, when a dentist says you need a deep cleaning, it is because plaque and tarter have built up substantially below the gum line, and as long as it is there, it will continue to deteriorate your gums and teeth, leading to much more substantial problems later on.

Interestingly, though, she also showed that if you take care of your teeth after they have been cleaned, you really don't need to go to the dentist that often. Basically she said to use a sonicare toothbrush and to floss everyday. And most people floss improperly, so that was the big thing people need to do. To floss properly, you need to bring the floss on each side of the tooth below the gum line and drag it along the sides of your teeth.

So, in summary, get the deep cleaning, and floss daily, and you won't run into the need to have a deep cleaning again.

[EssTooKayTD]

Hey quick question.... im having a root canal done soon...what can i expect? also do you remember how much it was before insurance?

basically they drill down and take out the nerve endings in the tooth, and then put a crown over it. Well that's my understanding of what it was. It really is not as painful as you hear it is. Once the numbing agent (novicane sp?) wasn't quite dulling all the pain, but it's bearable to me.

It's just uncomfortable b/c you have to open pretty wide for the dentist to fit the long ass drill in your mouth.

Cost wise...man, you won't like it. It's expensive. Definitely expect a 4 digit bill.

[superfob]

I got the deep cleaning once (Castle Dental "recommended" it). There was no anesthetics involved. Probably the most pain I've had at a dental office besides getting my wisdom teeth pulled.

Anyways, I think I was only charged around $70 w/ insurance so $175 sounds kinda high to me.

[Surfguy]

I went in to a new dentist after 3 years of no cleanings...but I did a decent job of brushing and flossing. After a while, I noticed a change in my gumline where my gums felt like they were receeding. I got concerned and went in. They measured 4 mm pockets pretty much everywhere. I thought for sure I would have to get a deep cleaning since it had been so long and I was usually only going annually before the 3 years. Turns out I just needed two visits in a month for some tough cleanings and to fill a few cavities. After that, my gums recovered quite nicely. So, I guess I lucked out.

In summary, I don't think anyone can tell you whether you need a deep cleaning other than your dentist. As we have heard from me and others, these situations where your gums are deteriorating can be reversed. If you don't trust your dentist, then get a second opinion. But, are you really going to gamble on something like that? Say you do have bacteria eating away at your gums where you cannot get to it with flossing or normal hygiene. What are your next steps? Advanced gum disease? Teeth falling out? lol

I'll be damned if I'm going to let the BBS decide whether I need a deep cleaning or not. I guess your dentist could try to scam you into doing it when you don't really need it. But, if you believe that, then find another dentist and get another opinion. The procedure itself is not a scam. Some people really do need deep cleanings. My parents did it. I think it is something we all probably will have to get done in our old age eventually.

[BenignDMD]

Periodontal probing is not a scam! You could get a second opinion if you want. A 3-4mm pocket in the gingival sulcus is greater than normal.

[Bandwagoner]

I had one place tell me I needed the deep cleaning and would not give me a normal cleaning. I went to another place and they checked and said I was borderline. When I went back to them later in the year, they said I wasn't even borderline anymore. I think the addition of an electric toothbrush really helps.
you were better the second time because they cleaned your teeth the first time. Not from an electric toothbrush.

[RedRowdy111]

Disregard all non-sense in this thread....deep cleaning is a great idea. I get it done every 6 months. They probe pretty rough under the gums but I promise your teeth will never feel cleaner. It basically is cleaning under the teeth's surface. You will be sore for a few days, but it really wipes out all the crap build-up thats making its way into the areas that cause serious dental problems. A normal cleaning is just cleaning the surface usually. I could only compare it to running your car through a gas station car wash opposed to taking it to Rainbow to get it detailed out. For $175, I would do it. Probably save you more time, money and pain down the road.

:D

[EssTooKayTD]

I forgot to mention, go ahead and buy a sonic care toothbrush if you already haven't. It really helps keep your gums healthy. Cleanings are much easier on you if you use the toothbrush.

[CrazyDave]

Usually, the method used to determine if you need this is pretty straight forward. They measure how far they can poke this metal thing under your gumline (has little notches on it) usually after they see that your gums are not as healthy as they should be (sounds like you don't floss enough, but who does?). If you get a bunch of "4's and 5's" then they recommend it because you have buildup below the gum line that is keeping your gums from healing. Putting off the procedure will only make it worse later, and could lead to tooth loss (not to mention they say that there are ties between this condition and heart disease, however "they" figure these things).

I have had the procedure not once but twice, and the price you're getting sounds reasonable. It used to cost more... and it used to be more painful. The second time i had it done there had been some advances in how they did it and it wasn't so bad. The first time, shots in the gums and still severe pain as they performed the "operation". I shudder recalling it.

Anyway, I'd do it... and afterwards make sure you get your arse in there 2-3 times a year for cleanings, and make sure you either floss or use a waterpik to keep it from occurring again.

[chow_yun_fat]

Bump from the dead...is $700 normal for deep cleaning? My insurance only covers 40%, so I'll have to pay about $400 out of pocket.

[VanityHalfBlack]

$400 hundred sounds about right... I have dental plan but it didn't cover it so I had to play like $350 at my Vietnamese Dentist...

[asianballa23]

Bump from the dead...is $700 normal for deep cleaning? My insurance only covers 40%, so I'll have to pay about $400 out of pocket.


no that's a rip off price, shop around.

[firecat]

I had a dentist that told me that I needed deep cleaning because my gum checks were 4's and 5's and some 6's. I didn't want to pay for it so I asked if I could just try flossing daily. They wouldn't even give me a regular cleaning that day and I felt like they were being pushy. Anyway, I didn't have it done and I started flossing at least once or twice a day. There are these little flosser picks that you can get at the grocery store and I keep them in my car.

After a few months of that I went to a different dentist and my gum checks were 1's and 2's and no need for the deep cleaning. Plus I'm addicted to flossing when I used to always get the 'you need to floss' lectures every time I went to the dentist.

[Royals Ego]

There are these little flosser picks that you can get at the grocery store and I keep them in my car.


I don't recommend that, you can seriously poke something...

I floss with those little things when i'm sitting in front of the computer or TV, it's really become habitual... but i usually go through 2-4 of them things a session

[Ziggy]

Having wisdom teeth pulled is the scam. I've never met anyone that saw a dentist regularly and didn't have their wisdom teeth pulled. Money grab.

[Big MAK]

Just brush your damn teeth 2-3x/day. then, you wont need a deep cleaning.

[Classic]

I'll give you guys a good tip who don't have dental insurance.

Find a dental hygiene school program and call the clinic to set up an appointment. You can go get a full cleaning, x rays, exam ect for like $25. These are all students who have an extremely tough regiment they have to abide by in order to get credit from the professors to graduate so they are extremely thorough and make sure the job gets done.

A typical dentist is all about seeing the next patient and it is my opinion that you can get a better cleaning in a clinical setting than you could at the dentist. Screw dental insurance if you have a dental hygiene school nearby.

I advise this because I just had my teeth cleaned by a dental hygiene student.

[ascaptjack]

Having wisdom teeth pulled is the scam. I've never met anyone that saw a dentist regularly and didn't have their wisdom teeth pulled. Money grab.

You don't have to get your wisdom teeth pulled?

I thought that once they start to grow, you have to pull them.

[Classic]

You don't have to get your wisdom teeth pulled?

I thought that once they start to grow, you have to pull them.

nah, i've got all mine in

[rage]

Having wisdom teeth pulled is the scam. I've never met anyone that saw a dentist regularly and didn't have their wisdom teeth pulled. Money grab.
From what I understand, people's mouths are all different. You only have so much room for a number of teeth. If you have a smaller mouth, you wisdom teeth could come out slanted or it could get too tight back there to clean, hence they can cause you problems.

You pull them if they need pulling.

[DieHard Rocket]

I had a dentist that told me that I needed deep cleaning because my gum checks were 4's and 5's and some 6's. I didn't want to pay for it so I asked if I could just try flossing daily. They wouldn't even give me a regular cleaning that day and I felt like they were being pushy.

This happened to me a couple of years ago after not seeing a dentist for a few years. Went to a new dentist and all they did was a gum check and told me to make an appointment for a deep cleaning that was going to cost me $500. They didn't even clean my teeth. I promptly switched back to my old dentist and have received nothing but good evaluations since, including my gums.

[CrazyDave]

Most dentists won't do it unless you have a bunch of 5 mm pockets. I have had the procedure done twice over the past 20 years. The first time, there were shots involved and it was incredibly painful. The second time the process was different, new tools, and didn't require anything but a topical painkiller. That price sounds about right. The first time I did it it was more like $300. The last, about $180.

I've been with my dentist since 1974, so I trust his assessments.

Gotta floss more, or use a waterpic. Some people are just more prone to this as well. It runs in my family, I have an uncle that goes through this, too.

[Ziggy]

From what I understand, people's mouths are all different. You only have so much room for a number of teeth. If you have a smaller mouth, you wisdom teeth could come out slanted or it could get too tight back there to clean, hence they can cause you problems.

You pull them if they need pulling.

They always say you need em pulled. Always. Money grab. Biggest scam in America.

[CrazyDave]

Having wisdom teeth pulled is the scam. I've never met anyone that saw a dentist regularly and didn't have their wisdom teeth pulled. Money grab.

When you need them out, you know they aren't bs'ing you.

[mylilpony]

Having wisdom teeth pulled is the scam. I've never met anyone that saw a dentist regularly and didn't have their wisdom teeth pulled. Money grab.

my dentist said my wisdom teeth were growing in straight and i had enough room for them so he opted not to take them out. I had insurance at that time.

[Rashmon]

They always say you need em pulled. Always. Money grab. Biggest scam in America.

I would not doubt there are some untrustworthy dentists who may yank them without need, but if your wisdom teeth grow in abnormally, you won't even need a dentist to diagnosis the need for extraction.

The pain in your mouth will let you know. Trust me.

If you have a dentist that recommends pulling teeth that are not bothering you and with no indication of a problem, then you have a bad dentist.

[Ziggy]

my dentist said my wisdom teeth were growing in straight and i had enough room for them so he opted not to take them out. I had insurance at that time.

You're obviously a dentist.

[Ziggy]

No yeah, humans were made to have extra teeth that need to be taken out.... scam.

[mylilpony]

obviously i am since i post stuff on this site during buisness hours.:rolleyes:

[Zion21]

You're obviously a dentist.

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[jo mama]

They always say you need em pulled. Always. Money grab. Biggest scam in America.

you are either trolling or have little squirrel sized wisdom teeth.

i allowed all my wisdom teeth to grow in, and they didnt grow in weird - they all came out as regular teeth. but there got a point w/ 3 of them where they had to be pulled. the pain was excruciating. but since i waited for them to grow in my dentist was able to just yank them out, instead of going to an oral (huh huh) surgeon. did my left side in one sitting then about 4 years later the top one on the right was bugging me so i pulled that out.

still have one that has never popped out of the gum and as long as it doesnt f*** with me it is welcome to stay.

[rezdawg]

There is so much misinformation floating around that its impossible to address everything without writing a thesis.

I'll just list some basics:

Average price of a deep cleaning is $200 per quadrant. So, if you need all 4 quadrants done, then it'll be about 800 bucks.

Deep cleanings, or scaling and root planings, are done in areas with pockets at 4mm-6mm. Firecat, its impossible to have pockets that large, and then floss, and have the pockets go to 1-2mm. Thats just not physiologically possible, specially on molars, where the majority of deep pockets exist.

Now, not all pockets of 4 or greater require deep cleanings. It would help on the majority of cases, but the real reason is for calculus build up. You determine calculus build up through x-rays and clinical exams. If there is calculus, then a deep cleaning is indicated.

If you have pockets at 7mm or greater, a deep cleaning will not help much. It would be best to see a periodontist to get specialized care.

Why is a deep cleaning important? Pockets are supposed to be between 1-2 mm for anterior teeth and 2-3 mm for posterior teeth. The bone level supporting the tooth is correlated with the pocket depth. Now, if you have pockets of 5 mm, for instance, then you have plaque and bacteria gathering at the bottom of that pocket. This makes it much more difficult to keep clean during home care hygiene. Over time, the bone level changes based on pocket depth. Therefore, if your pocket around a molar goes from 3 mm to 5 mm, then you should expect approximately 2 mm of bone loss around the tooth. Eventually, if treatment is not done, then you will find loosening of teeth and eventual tooth loss. Thats the progression.

Deep cleanings are absolutely essential. For those that think its a waste of money, then you obviously dont have experience in the dental field. I think the price point is expensive, but the procedure itself is critical for maintenance of oral health, tissue attachment, and bone level.

Dont get me started on wisdom teeth. For those that think that they shouldnt be extracted, I can only laugh. There are only a few instances that they are best left untouched.

[mylilpony]

Eventually, if treatment is not done, then you will find loosening of teeth and eventual tooth loss. Thats the progression.



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[Invisible Fan]

Wisdom teeth a scam, what? Moonlanding is fake too!

If it grows crooked, it mucks up the other teeth.

[rezdawg]

Wisdom teeth a scam, what? Moonlanding is fake too!

If it grows crooked, it mucks up the other teeth.

I can't tell you how many 2nd molars (the ones in front of the wisdom teeth) I see that have been screwed with decay because of the wisdom teeth growing in at an angle. Also, if they aren't even growing in, I've seen tons of cases of cyst formation.

Unless the wisdom teeth are growing in perfectly straight, it's in the best interest of the patient (health and finance) to have them removed. They'll do nothing but cause problems at some point.

[Xerobull]

I can't tell you how many 2nd molars (the ones in front of the wisdom teeth) I see that have been screwed with decay because of the wisdom teeth growing in at an angle. Also, if they aren't even growing in, I've seen tons of cases of cyst formation.

Unless the wisdom teeth are growing in perfectly straight, it's in the best interest of the patient (health and finance) to have them removed. They'll do nothing but cause problems at some point.

What would I have to do/say/have the dentist diagnose to get my medical insurance to pay for this?

[Honey Bear]

Maybe it's because I'm naturally beautiful, but I never had my wisdom teeth removed and it worked out fine for me. Do I sometimes (once or twice a year) get toothaches? Yes, of course I do. But pain is part of life and it's what makes joy taste twice as good.

There's a reason dentists aren't regarded as real doctors. They're modern day charlatans.

In a groundbreaking report from the British Medical Journal, researchers who poured over thousands of studies detailing the efficacy of medical and dental procedures have concluded that many popular surgical procedures are completely worthless. Among those is one of the most common procedures performed by your dentist: the removal of so-called "impacted" wisdom teeth. According to the BMJ, this procedure may actually do more harm than good.

But I'm not mad at rezdawg, because he truly believes in what he's saying.

Folks, you need to start questioning your dentist. Don't believe everything they tell you. Most of the time, they're full of bunk, or they're just trying to sell you on whatever procedure they get paid for performing. They're not all evil -- many actually believe these procedures will help you, which is why they seem so sincere -- but they are misinformed. Their beliefs are based on medical dogma, not scientific fact.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/001108.html#ixzz1a7DMtGju

So don't be afraid, don't have no fear. Gonna bring the flavor gonna show you how. As long as there'll be quacks Ronny be bringing the truth againn

[le081488]

Not a scam, but it could be done for cheaper at the UT Dental School in the med center as can most of dental related treatment if you do not have adequate healthcare.

Im a student there, if you need work done or know anyone feel free to message me and I can possibly get you in faster since I can sign you up as a friend and family member.

[Xerobull]

Not a scam, but it could be done for cheaper at the UT Dental School in the med center as can most of dental related treatment if you do not have adequate healthcare.

Im a student there, if you need work done or know anyone feel free to message me and I can possibly get you in faster since I can sign you up as a friend and family member.

Awesome deal!

[DaDakota]

Getting all 4 of my wisdome teeth out in 2 hours......at the age of 47, got my first cavity and the doc said yank it, but because it was on the bottom, got to take the top one too, and then the insurance company said, we will pay more if you get all 4 yanked.

So......away I go.....to go from DD32Teeth to DD28Teeth

DD

[Lil Pun]

Wisdom tooth extraction was no fun for me. :(

[le081488]

Awesome deal!

It really is, if anyone needs anything or has any questions regarding dental work at the UT School in Houston, just email me.

le081488@yahoo.com

[Pull_Up_3]

bumping this

i need a deep cleaning/scaling but im coming out almost $500 WITH insurance! is this real life? should i shop around? some places want $400 without insurance which just blows my mind how i end up paying more with insuarance. maybe the dentist is overcharging me?

[Prince]

partly yes....

[rezdawg]

bumping this

i need a deep cleaning/scaling but im coming out almost $500 WITH insurance! is this real life? should i shop around? some places want $400 without insurance which just blows my mind how i end up paying more with insuarance. maybe the dentist is overcharging me?

Its typically 150-200 per quadrant without insurance...so 600-800 total.

With insurance, it should be less because those fees are negotiated.

[franchise403]

I just had the procedure done and it was $143.00 total with insurance. I think without it was going to be between $500-$800 bucks.

Procedure wasn't that bad. I was expecting much much worse. Goodluck!

[Pull_Up_3]

I just had the procedure done and it was $143.00 total with insurance. I think without it was going to be between $500-$800 bucks.

Procedure wasn't that bad. I was expecting much much worse. Goodluck!

lucky u

the total for what i need is like $1400 and i come out like $500 it just doesnt make sense to me since most deep cleanings are like 6-800 without insurance.

[itony]

My place is only $400 for a deep cleaning :)

[le081488]

lucky u

the total for what i need is like $1400 and i come out like $500 it just doesnt make sense to me since most deep cleanings are like 6-800 without insurance.

If your willing to go through with the process at the dental school, it's about $37.00 PER quadrant to have a deep cleaning, and usually, you won't need all four quads done, just depends on the person and their oral hygiene. That's alot off, also fillings, etc are alot cheaper as well, but again, you just have to go through the process.

All the prices are without insurance, just paid the day of with CC or cash, if you or anyone on the board is interested just PM or email me le081488@yahoo.com I have had people from CF come in already.

[Pull_Up_3]

If your willing to go through with the process at the dental school, it's about $37.00 PER quadrant to have a deep cleaning, and usually, you won't need all four quads done, just depends on the person and their oral hygiene. That's alot off, also fillings, etc are alot cheaper as well, but again, you just have to go through the process.

All the prices are without insurance, just paid the day of with CC or cash, if you or anyone on the board is interested just PM or email me le081488@yahoo.com I have had people from CF come in already.

what process? im pretty sure ill need all 4 lulz

[le081488]

what process? im pretty sure ill need all 4 lulz

Cheaper price, but the drawback is it may take a longer process to get everything done, but that's dependable on the patient and his/her schedule, if interested, just email me and Ill email you some info. I can sign people up as friends and family so it speeds up the process a little.

[Pull_Up_3]

Cheaper price, but the drawback is it may take a longer process to get everything done, but that's dependable on the patient and his/her schedule, if interested, just email me and Ill email you some info. I can sign people up as friends and family so it speeds up the process a little.

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[stthomsfinest]

Interesting thread.

From my experience, I feel deep cleaning is a scam. My family was low income so I was on Medicare, during college I became uninsured. I hadnt had a Dentist checkup since I was 18. Three years later when I was 22, my gums began to bleed when I brushed. It bothered me greatly so I spent 70 bucks or so for a checkup and I was told I have peridontal disease and to floss and get a deep cleaning. Being uninsured and broke, that wasnt going to happen.

Desperate times called for desperate measures so I applied for CareCredit, for those who don't know its a credit card used for medical checkups and crap. I had a 500 limit so I when to Apple Dentist and then maxed out my card. They did the deep cleaning and gave me some solution that they claimed would reduce/eliminate the bleeding gums and swelling.

Basically it was bull****. The solution didn't do crap and my gums still bleed to this day. I want something to be done about it and have finally paid CareCredit off and chopped that damn card to bits. Being uninsured, I'd have to find a community clinic or something to help me or pay out of pocket.

So basically to me the "Deep cleaning" was an absolute BS waste of money that didn't solve that problems that it was intended to solve.

[le081488]

Interesting thread.

From my experience, I feel deep cleaning is a scam. My family was low income so I was on Medicare, during college I became uninsured. I hadnt had a Dentist checkup since I was 18. Three years later when I was 22, my gums began to bleed when I brushed. It bothered me greatly so I spent 70 bucks or so for a checkup and I was told I have peridontal disease and to floss and get a deep cleaning. Being uninsured and broke, that wasnt going to happen.

Desperate times called for desperate measures so I applied for CareCredit, for those who don't know its a credit card used for medical checkups and crap. I had a 500 limit so I when to Apple Dentist and then maxed out my card. They did the deep cleaning and gave me some solution that they claimed would reduce/eliminate the bleeding gums and swelling.

Basically it was bull****. The solution didn't do crap and my gums still bleed to this day. I want something to be done about it and have finally paid CareCredit off and chopped that damn card to bits. Being uninsured, I'd have to find a community clinic or something to help me or pay out of pocket.

So basically to me the "Deep cleaning" was an absolute BS waste of money that didn't solve that problems that it was intended to solve.

Did you follow up and do what you were suppose to after the deep cleanings? Periodontal disease is a disease in which just doesn't go away right after the cleaning. But if your not a believer in it, that's you, for others, I usually show all the debris, etc that comes out during the cleaning. Reddawgz could probably answer your question better, but it's not a scam, it just requires maintenance and better oral hygiene.

[stthomsfinest]

Well yeah, they showed me all the plaque and stuff in that xray and they said they cleaned it all out. They gave me some solution that looked and tasted like that Purple Listerine mouthwash that they said would reduce the swelling in my gums which in turn would reduce my gums from bleeding so easily.

I flossed like they told me to, used the solution, brushed like I usually do in the mornings. Started using the sensitive teeth toothpaste like they told me. The bleeding gums never went away. Once the solution was gone and the bleeding didn't subside I felt screwed and weaned off the flossing but continued with the just normal store mouthwash. Crest and such. The bleeding remains.

My teeth are white but could be whiter but the bleeding gums just won't go and I dont know what to do. I'm planning to schedule a new dentist checkup to see what crap they're gonna say now and I'm going to tell them what I've said here and that the problem didn't go away.

[BALLhog 247 365]

Well yeah, they showed me all the plaque and stuff in that xray and they said they cleaned it all out. They gave me some solution that looked and tasted like that Purple Listerine mouthwash that they said would reduce the swelling in my gums which in turn would reduce my gums from bleeding so easily.

I flossed like they told me to, used the solution, brushed like I usually do in the mornings. Started using the sensitive teeth toothpaste like they told me. The bleeding gums never went away. Once the solution was gone and the bleeding didn't subside I felt screwed and weaned off the flossing but continued with the just normal store mouthwash. Crest and such. The bleeding remains.

My teeth are white but could be whiter but the bleeding gums just won't go and I dont know what to do. I'm planning to schedule a new dentist checkup to see what crap they're gonna say now and I'm going to tell them what I've said here and that the problem didn't go away.

Bleeding gums are technically a symptom of gingivitis, which is a disease that usually precedes the onset of periodontitis; however, the presence of gingivitis doesn't imply active periodontitis. The persistence of your symptoms may signify that they are secondary to a systemic disease, malnutrition, or an allergy (toothpaste?), and not necessarily plaque/bacteria. Do you have any hormonal problems/diabetic? Are you on any hypertensive medications? Vitamin C deficiency? It may even just be that you're brushing too hard and causing trauma to your gingiva.

[rezdawg]

Well yeah, they showed me all the plaque and stuff in that xray and they said they cleaned it all out. They gave me some solution that looked and tasted like that Purple Listerine mouthwash that they said would reduce the swelling in my gums which in turn would reduce my gums from bleeding so easily.

I flossed like they told me to, used the solution, brushed like I usually do in the mornings. Started using the sensitive teeth toothpaste like they told me. The bleeding gums never went away. Once the solution was gone and the bleeding didn't subside I felt screwed and weaned off the flossing but continued with the just normal store mouthwash. Crest and such. The bleeding remains.

My teeth are white but could be whiter but the bleeding gums just won't go and I dont know what to do. I'm planning to schedule a new dentist checkup to see what crap they're gonna say now and I'm going to tell them what I've said here and that the problem didn't go away.

You gotta be weary about places like Apple...chains that produce on high volume typically have the framework of a factory. In and out, in and out...everything revolves around production. Im not saying this necessarily is the case, but the deep cleaning may not have been as thorough as possible, even if they showed you bits and pieces of plaque and calculus. Also, as Ballhog and le081488 have stated, there could be other factors at play here. One thing is for sure, if your gums are still bleeding, then you should try to find the cause of the problem.

[stthomsfinest]

Bleeding gums are technically a symptom of gingivitis, which is a disease that usually precedes the onset of periodontitis; however, the presence of gingivitis doesn't imply active periodontitis. The persistence of your symptoms may signify that they are secondary to a systemic disease, malnutrition, or an allergy (toothpaste?), and not necessarily plaque/bacteria. Do you have any hormonal problems/diabetic? Are you on any hypertensive medications? Vitamin C deficiency? It may even just be that you're brushing too hard and causing trauma to your gingiva.

I dont have any disease or allergy that I know of other than some acid reflux. Not diabetic. dont take any medications of any kind. I believe I get enough vitamin C. And it happens even when i brush relatively soft.

[rezdawg]

I dont have any disease or allergy that I know of other than some acid reflux. Not diabetic. dont take any medications of any kind. I believe I get enough vitamin C. And it happens even when i brush relatively soft.

Do you only bleed in certain areas or do you just generally bleed in all areas?

If its general, and all your gum issues as far as bacteria/plaque and oral hygiene are taken care of...then you should look into potential bleeding disorders or Vitamin K deficiency.

[OlajuwonFan81]

BUMP.

Any of you do that laser treatment to go along with the deep cleaning?

Supposedly it is a new procedure that kills 100% of the bacteria? Only negative is that it costs a few hundred dollars in addition to the cleaning.