[Unofficial] Pirates @ Astros

[Castor27]

Remember, no PBP in these threads and keep the chatter on topic (if it is about something other than this series, talk about it in another thread).

9-8 Ian Snell, RHP (6-10, 5.59) vs. Alberto Arias, RHP (0-0, 2.63) 7:05 on FSN

9-9 Ross Ohlendorf, RHP (1-1, 6.26) vs. Randy Wolf, LHP (9-11, 4.47) 7:05 on FSN

9-10 Tom Gorzelanny, LHP (6-9, 6.64) vs. Brian Moehler, RHP (10-6, 4.22) 7:05 on FSN

9-11 Zach Duke, LHP (5-13, 4.87) vs. Roy Oswalt, RHP (14-9, 3.72) 7:05 on FSN

[DaDakota]

Castor you ROCK !!!

WWWW...we get within 4.

DD

[msn]

Perhaps, having sent Bay, Marte, and one other away, these Pirates will no longer the '27 Yankees to our Astros?

2-7 versus the Pirates? Are they playing Stargell and Tekulve in disguise? :rolleyes:

[kaleidosky]

WWWW

sweep sweep sweep! I agree DD..within 4 after this. Again, don't think it's possible. but hey, 4 is nicer than 6!

[TMac640]

3 out of 4 with a conservative win from the rookie this season. Is this Arias kid any good?

[TesseracT]

Sweeeep

Anyone know if Roy beat the Astros scoreless inning record yet?

[rrj_gamz]

Sweep...Do or die from here on out...

[RocketManJosh]

Brewers have a tough stretch coming up soon ... Gain a few over the next few days and it could get real interesting

[leroy420]

Is something wrong with Backe or are they just skipping him over?

[EDIT]Nevermind. I found the answer...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6965/news

[baller4life315]

You guys might actually beat us now that we traded away all of our good hitters. ;)

The Pirates scoring one run is pretty much considered a moral victory at this point.

[Landlord Landry]

Is something wrong with Backe or are they just skipping him over?

[EDIT]Nevermind. I found the answer...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6965/news

yeah, Brandon is suffering from brain stiffness. He hasn't given up a homer in a few days, probably doesn't know what to do.

[stobbartjohn]

Phillies leading 5-4
Brewers up 1-0

Damnit

[TMac640]

Is Arias REALLY this good? I mean, yeah with the Pirate factor involved you're talking a team with a .020 team avg, but still 5 k's thru 2 ip?

[stobbartjohn]

Reds level it against the Brewers! 1-1

[wallyj12]

wow....dont know how hell pan out but hes having an outstanding game. He sort of reminds of Zek Astacio with his delivery and appearance, anyone else?

[zlicciardo]

Hey did you guys hear J.D and Brownie say that the Astros purchased the contract of Sacomonno (spell?) he has been really good this year for round rock and Aries is a beast i say we we keep him in the rotation see if he does anything

[stobbartjohn]

Towles looks like he's lost none of his early season form

[TMac640]

What is Arias throwing and what's his velocity like on his pitches? I am stuck in a computer science dungeon at the moment.

[stobbartjohn]

Brewers lead 3-1 ffs

[stobbartjohn]

C'mon Arias, get yourself together and get through 5 at least please

[TMac640]

I like how we're making Snell look like a Cy Young contender, lol.

[stobbartjohn]

Geez, the reds just had the bases loaded with 0 out and managed not to score

[stobbartjohn]

Haha, what a first at bat for Saccammano!!!!

[TMac640]

Sacamammannononoonono!

[VesceySux]

Kramer's friend, Bob Saccammano?

[TMac640]

There we go. Now we're starting to put something together with the Tejada RBI :)

[TMac640]

Eh, coulda thrown the kid out there for another inning with us putting up a 3 spot but either way, a decent debut for us.

[Storm Surge]

Nice, my father is actually friends with Mark Saccomono's dad, met his family(except for Mark)

[bobrek]

Eh, coulda thrown the kid out there for another inning with us putting up a 3 spot but either way, a decent debut for us.

Had they thrown him out there for the 6th, then he would have still probably been in a 0-0 game since the HR was while he was being pinch hit for.

In addition, he was clearly tired.

[TMac640]

Had they thrown him out there for the 6th, then he would have still probably been in a 0-0 game since the HR was while he was being pinch hit for.

In addition, he was clearly tired.

Ahh, I gotcha. I haven't been watching the game, just scoreboard watching.

[Uprising]

blah. Wright with the FAILURE.

[bobrek]

Ahh, I gotcha. I haven't been watching the game, just scoreboard watching.

He was mostly a reliever this year and only recently started a couple of games at Round Rock. Apparently his max was 5 innings in the minors. He looked great the first 3 innings and barely survived the next 2. All in all a quality start.

[stobbartjohn]

Towles is trying to take out Berkman now lol

[The Cat]

Kramer's friend, Bob Saccammano?

Yup. He can get you a good deal on a Russian hats, only $40 in Battery Park. They're not real, but the difference is negligible.

[stobbartjohn]

Reds have the bases loaded, 0 outs, top of the 9th, trailing 4-2....

[TMac640]

Very nice Loretta, very nice.

[stobbartjohn]

A strikeout, then a single

4-3, bases loaded 1 out, cmon reds!

[Storm Surge]

OMG brewers imploding at the moment now 5-4 Reds! still 1 out with runners at 2nd and 3rd

[stobbartjohn]

KEPPINGER DOUBLE!!! 5-4 REDS!!!

[stobbartjohn]

Valverde is the man!

Now, don't blow this Cordero

[TesseracT]

what a night for Sacamano.. thats awesome

[stobbartjohn]

Reds win, what a night! 5 games back, 18 to go

[BrooksBall]

Wow! Great night for the Stros!

[BrooksBall]

Hawkins working out of that jam was crucial.

[BrooksBall]

I hear that Jay Bruce made an incredible diving catch on Counsell's liner that probably prevented a triple. Instead of a man on 3rd with 1 out, it was 2 outs and bases empty.

[TMac640]

Papa Grande! AY KI KI KI KI KI KI KI!

[JBIIRockets]

wow...5 back with 18 to go.....impressive.

must sweep the bucs.

[leroy420]

I'm very glad it's still baseball season. There's little better than meaningful September baseball.

That couldn't be a sweeter game. After getting bashed about the state of the minor leagues for the past couple of years (and rightly so), 2 youngsters provide the win. Arias looked great. Saccomano gets a homer on the first pitch of his career? Are you freaking kidding me?

GO ASTROS!

[Kerfeld]

Great nite for the Astros. nice contributions from Arias and Saccammano. I just have a gut feeling the Brewers are going to spit this one up. I just hope it is the Astros who catch them and not the Phillies.

Last Friday really hurt with our loss and the Brewer win. What sucks the most is that the freakin Padres had numerous chances to win that game!

[RocketManJosh]

Can't believe the Astros are playing meaningful games in September. I've counted them dead, then alive, then dead, then alive again this season. I'm not usually one to do that, but man did they prove me wrong to even make it this close. That said, they've got a long way to go, but I won't put anything past this team. The Brew Crew has a tough upcoming stretch of games. It could get REAL interesting.

[wallyj12]

how is this happening?! haha...its like no matter who we trot out there at any position people just keep producing its crazy. Sadly ill admit that i wrote off the astros awhile back and stopped keeping up with baseball but was curious what the national media (espn) has been saying about us? (im gonna guess probably nothing since ESPN seems to have an underlying disinterest/hatred towards houston)

[Raven Lunatic]

Saccammano has an OPS of 5.000

[MONON]

Saccomano gets a homer on the first pitch of his career? Are you freaking kidding me?

GO ASTROS!


Can't wait to see what he does with his 2nd major league pitch!! :D

[OldManBernie]

I didn't get to watch the game last night. I've never even heard of Arias as a pitcher in the minors. How did he look last night? Does he have potential?

[leroy420]

Any news on Carlos Lee? I know it was 6-8 weeks and we're in week #4 right now. 6 weeks puts him back in the last full week of the season. If they continue on as they have been, should he not be planning on getting back?

[bobrek]

Any news on Carlos Lee? I know it was 6-8 weeks and we're in week #4 right now. 6 weeks puts him back in the last full week of the season. If they continue on as they have been, should he not be planning on getting back?

Lee is out for the regular season and may be ready sometime in October.

[bobrek]

I didn't get to watch the game last night. I've never even heard of Arias as a pitcher in the minors. How did he look last night? Does he have potential?

First 3 innings he looked great. 4th and 5th he noticeably tired, more with location than anything else. they never really hit him hard, but he was starting to lose command. He relieved most of the year and only recently started a game or two at Round Rock. I do not believe he went more than 5 innings in any start.

[leroy420]

Lee is out for the regular season and may be ready sometime in October.

Let's hope we need him then.

[Smacktle]

The Astros just sent me an email to purchase playoff tickets. CRAP!!! I'm getting my hopes up again. I'm even kinda optimistic about next year if they can get some pitching.

[rrj_gamz]

They showed it up here on FSN and glad I was able to see it...

Hawkins came thru and so did Valverde...It's great to win...

How bout' them Reds...woohoo...

[Raven Lunatic]

First 3 innings he looked great. 4th and 5th he noticeably tired, more with location than anything else. they never really hit him hard, but he was starting to lose command. He relieved most of the year and only recently started a game or two at Round Rock. I do not believe he went more than 5 innings in any start.

Is he projected as a guy that could be a starter with some more work? Or was he drafted with the idea of keeping him in the bullpen?

[bobrek]

Is he projected as a guy that could be a starter with some more work? Or was he drafted with the idea of keeping him in the bullpen?

He was actually claimed on waivers from the Rockies earlier this year. I assume since they eventually started him in Round Rock, they probably want to see him compete as a starter. Based on last night, he definitely needs to be "stretched out", but I can't comment as to how he looked in RR when he started.

EDIT: What I liked was that almost all of his pitches had movement. Rarely did he throw anything straight.

[Landlord Landry]

Is he projected as a guy that could be a starter with some more work? Or was he drafted with the idea of keeping him in the bullpen?

just listening to mctaggert on 790, he said none of these call ups are projected to be apart of the astros anytime soon.

even though saccromano is 27. sheez.

me thinks the poopura era is still lingering.

[bobrek]

just listening to mctaggert on 790, he said none of these call ups are projected to be apart of the astros anytime soon.

even though saccromano is 27. sheez.

me thinks the poopura era is still lingering.

Saccomano's problem is that they have Wigginton, Blum and Berkman next year to man the corner spots. It can be argued that someone deserves a chance over Blum, but he can also play SS, 2B and is the "absolute emergency" catcher. With Tejada and Matsui penciled in at SS and 2B, that only leaves 1 or 2 other infielders and they have to be able to step in and start regularly at 2B or SS.

[H-townhero]

They haven't resigned Loretta to next year have they? I'm guessing they'd let him take his at-bats next year.

[bobrek]

They haven't resigned Loretta to next year have they? I'm guessing they'd let him take his at-bats next year.

The problem is that if they do re-sign Loretta, he can play 2B for an extended period, unlike Saccomanno. In addition, Loretta can play all the IF positions. Let's not get too excited over 1 at bat and a solid minor league campaign.

[MadMax]

The problem is that if they do re-sign Loretta, he can play 2B for an extended period, unlike Saccomanno. In addition, Loretta can play all the IF positions. Let's not get too excited over 1 at bat and a solid minor league campaign.

I just love the potential for endless Seinfeld quotes.

[H-townhero]

The problem is that if they do re-sign Loretta, he can play 2B for an extended period, unlike Saccomanno. In addition, Loretta can play all the IF positions. Let's not get too excited over 1 at bat and a solid minor league campaign.

What's the point of having two jack-of-all trade infielders, if you need that many it means your players are seriously injury prone. :(

[bobrek]

What's the point of having two jack-of-all trade infielders, if you need that many it means your players are seriously injury prone. :(


Barring any trades and jail time, the following will be the infield situation for next season:

Blum is already signed for next year so he is on the team. He will be the backup at 3rd and also has the ability to play other positions.

Wigginton will be the starter at 3rd.

Berkman will start at 1st.

Tejada will start at SS.

Matsui will start at 2nd.

They need at least one competent middle infield backup and Saccamonno is not that guy.

Keep in mind that this season, they started with the 4 starters, Loretta and Blum. With that same alignment, there is no room for a 1st/3rd baseman.

[Landlord Landry]

Philly getting hammered early 7-1.

the stars are aligning.

[BrooksBall]

Terrible start. Bobbles and bad throws everywhere.

[The Cat]

PUMA!!!

[BrooksBall]

Phils trying to mount a comeback. Fla winning 9-4 through 4.

[Roc Paint]

How many times are they going to tell us that JR Towles wanted to be a rodeo clown?

[Uprising]

WOW. Big puma!!!

btw....Lance is now at 99 Rbi's......

Wasn't carlos at 100 or so before his injury?

[BrooksBall]

How many times are they going to tell us that JR Towles wanted to be a rodeo clown?

No kidding, some of those clips get way overplayed.

[BrooksBall]

WOW. Big puma!!!

btw....Lance is now at 99 Rbi's......

Wasn't carlos at 100 or so before his injury?

100 for Puma now and yea, Lee was at a 100 when he went down.

[Roc Paint]

Nice!

100 for Lance

[BrooksBall]

bases loaded, no outs, Pence swings at the first pitch... at least Newhan got one in

[Creepy Crawl]

After a shaky start the wolf man has looked pretty good so far. It would be nice to have him back for the end of the rotation next year. If we could add Sheets to the rotation,it would be cool too.

Oswalt
Sheets
In no particular order:
Wolf
Wandy
Backe or Moehler

That's not great,but its an improvement.

[H-Town Info]

ERSTAD!

[Nick]

After a shaky start the wolf man has looked pretty good so far. It would be nice to have him back for the end of the rotation next year. If we could add Sheets to the rotation,it would be cool too.

Oswalt
Sheets
In no particular order:
Wolf
Wandy
Backe or Moehler

That's not great,but its an improvement.

Given Sheets shaky injury history over the past couple of years, I'd be very weary of giving him the "going" 5+ year contract.

Teams should shy away, and I'd take him in a second for a 2-3 year deal, but low and behold... somebody will give him a 5 year deal and live to regret it within year 2.

[BrooksBall]

Phils mounting a comeback...

[H-townhero]

Given Sheets shaky injury history over the past couple of years, I'd be very weary of giving him the "going" 5+ year contract.

Teams should shy away, and I'd take him in a second for a 2-3 year deal, but low and behold... somebody will give him a 5 year deal and live to regret it within year 2.

I agree with this... I would throw the bank at Sabathia, but I'm sure it will be a bidding war between the Yankees and Red Sox.. :(

[Landlord Landry]

1-1 reds brew crew

[BrooksBall]

i figured the Phils were done for a few innings ago

[stobbartjohn]

Reds level it up with the Brewers

[BrooksBall]

Cards level it with the Cubs

[RedRaiderRocket]

3-1 Reds Get er Done!!!!

[stobbartjohn]

Wow wow, this is unreal! C'mon the Reds!

[RedRaiderRocket]

Back to back homers for Cincy 4-1 Reds!!!

[BrieflySpeaking]

first instant replay for the astos :cool:

[Oski2005]

Hold on Reds, please.

[Creepy Crawl]

Given Sheets shaky injury history over the past couple of years, I'd be very weary of giving him the "going" 5+ year contract.

Teams should shy away, and I'd take him in a second for a 2-3 year deal, but low and behold... somebody will give him a 5 year deal and live to regret it within year 2.

I agree completely. I wouldn't want to have an injury prone guy like Sheets locked into a long term deal. With Sheets,its not a question if he he will get hurt,but when he will pull up lame.

The first look at MLB replay. It just looks kind of shady with the umpires running off into the dugout. No HR .

[Landlord Landry]

mercy run

[BrooksBall]

Phils will have Utlety, Howard and Burrell up down by at least 2 in the bottom of the 9th

[BALLhog 247 365]

brewers tie it.. :mad:

[RiceRocket1]

Phils lose, but Brew Crew challenging...

[RiceRocket1]

Phils lose, but Brew Crew challenging...

Just as I posted. Stupid JJ Hardy.

[BrooksBall]

Ray freakin' Durham... only his 5th of the year

[stobbartjohn]

FFS, damn Brewers

phillies lost at least

[BrooksBall]

Crap... STL has a man on 2nd with no outs after a balk from Marmol.

[BMoney]

The Brewers bullpen sucks...I have faith in the Reds.

[BrooksBall]

Marmol is scuffling... he threw a pitch straight at the hitter that would have been a HBP and loaded the bases if the guy didn't deflect it with his bat.

Now 1 out, men on 2nd and 3rd.

[BrooksBall]

Marmol loses it... he was awful.

[BrooksBall]

Rickie Weeks with yet another bonehead error and the bases are loaded with 1 out for the Reds.

[stobbartjohn]

Reds got the bases loaded, 1 out. Horrible error by Weeks there, had a double play ball but fumbled it and didn't even get the 1 out

[BMoney]

Do the Cubs have another historic collapse in them?

[cardpire]

anybody have a webcast link for reds/brewers game?

[BrooksBall]

Do the Cubs have another historic collapse in them?

It depends how you define collapse? I can't see them not getting at least the wildcard but I guess it's still mathetmatically possible that they don't even make the playoffs.

[BrooksBall]

Anytime you get frustrated with Cecil Cooper, remember that there is always Ned Yost.

[BrooksBall]

Erstad, Tejada and Berkman went 9/13 tonight with 5 RBI and 7 runs scored.

[stobbartjohn]

Fair play to Erstad, Tejada and Berkman

But...

I nominate Ricky Weeks as the Astros player of the game

[Landlord Landry]

anybody have a webcast link for reds/brewers game?

myp2pforum.eu

figure out the rest.

[BrooksBall]

Fair play to Erstad, Tejada and Berkman

But...

I nominate Ricky Weeks as the Astros player of the game

If they lose, I agree. If they win, he was still good to us. Week is just horrible defensively. Ned Yost is also horrible for continuing to start him.

[BrooksBall]

5 LOB for the Reds in the last 2 innings.

[Landlord Landry]

it's times like these, I realize how lucky Astros fans are to have Billy and JD.

the Brewer commentaters are horrid.

[BrooksBall]

If Mike Lamb wins it, that would suck double.

Edit: Mike Lamb with a line drive single.

[cardpire]

myp2pforum.eu

figure out the rest.

thank you sir

[Landlord Landry]

bad base running.

top 11th.

[thech0senone]

Gagne in the game, probably a good thing for us.

[MadMax]

GET SOME RUNS, REDS!!!

[BrooksBall]

I'm surprised that the Brewers are 11-6 in extra inning games with that bullpen. Being used to playing in all those tight games could be a plus for them if they make the playoffs.

[MadMax]

yes!!! a run scores...5-4 Reds!!!

[Landlord Landry]

how dumb are these announcers?

"the Brewers won't lose any ground if they lose tonight"

they actually said it.

[BrooksBall]

Wow! 4 games back...

[stobbartjohn]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!

4 BACK, 17 TO GO

[BrooksBall]

how dumb are these announcers?

"the Brewers won't lose any ground if they lose tonight"

they actually said it.

They were talking about versus the Cubs I think.

[Mattj]

probably referring to team ahead of them the Cubs who lost...

[stobbartjohn]

how dumb are these announcers?

"the Brewers won't lose any ground if they lose tonight"

they actually said it.

That's because they mean they won't lose any ground on the Cubs. They probably don't even realise they might not win the wild card lol

I also loved their complaining about balls and strikes all night. Great stuff

[Landlord Landry]

They were talking about versus the Cubs I think.

maybe they don't realize what is happening behind them.

[right1]

Can the Reds beat Sabathia tomorrow afternoon?

[BrooksBall]

Very possible, Landlord. There are some fools out there.

This was a big one for the Stros with Sabathia and Sheets up next.

[BrooksBall]

Can the Reds beat Sabathia tomorrow afternoon?

Arroyo has pitched well recently. Anything can happen but the odds are on CC's side against anybody these days.

[right1]

Arroyo has pitched well recently. Anything can happen but the odds are on CC's side against anybody these days.

Surely CC has to have a bad game sometime. I'm going to go ahead and put the jinx on him now. the old voodoo jinx. Sabathia will have a bad outing tomorrow...count on it.

[MadMax]

4 games back. This is just unbelievable. The other comebacks were wild...but this one just snuck up on you.

[Oski2005]

I'm watching Baseball Tonight and Karl Ravech is trying to insert the Astros into the wildcard discussion but they all seem pretty engaged with the Cardinals right now.

What they don't get is that the Cards have played just as bad as the Brewers lately and that the cards are getting wins against the Cubs who have struggled more than them.

The Astros and the Phils are the only guys in the NL WC hunt playing winning ball right now.

[Alimoe84]

I wouldnt count on the Reds beating Sabathia tomorrow, but if the Astros keep beating the teams they're supposed to beat in September (14 of last 17 vs PIT,CIN,ATL,FLA) then this thing could really get interesting. We can just watch STL, PHI and MIL beat up on each other. Boy, who thought a month ago a Sept 12-14 series vs the Cubs would mean something? Lets just keep winning, baby.

[el_locoteee]

Can we do this? :eek:

[right1]

The Astros are 28-10 since July 25.

[MadMax]

Can we do this? :eek:

of course. 4 in 18 is no longer in the category of a miracle or a God-send or anything like that. yeah, we'll need some help. but they've already been pretty cooperative

[JBIIRockets]

this would be a miracle of the astros get the wild card. Go Stros!

[Landlord Landry]

The Astros are 28-10 since July 25.

34-16 since the allstar break. best in baseball.

remnants of 2005.

[Refman]

of course. 4 in 18 is no longer in the category of a miracle or a God-send or anything like that. yeah, we'll need some help. but they've already been pretty cooperative
All your wild card are belong to us. :D

[SuperBeeKay]

Look at the schedule fpr Philly, for Milwaukee, and for Cards and compare it to the Astros..

Astros have it easy

[Grandpappy]

Last time the Astros came out of nowhere to win the WC was in 2004 which was an Olympic year. Well 2008 Olympics just finished; I have this weird feeling in my stomach right now :D

[MadMax]

Last time the Astros came out of nowhere to win the WC was in 2004 which was an Olympic year. Well 2008 Olympics just finished; I have this weird feeling in my stomach right now :D

actually 2005 was the last year they came out of nowhere to win the WC. they were 15-30 to start that season.

[Grandpappy]

actually 2005 was the last year they came out of nowhere to win the WC. they were 15-30 to start that season.

True But that was early on in the season, and as far as I remember they had the WC lead a little bit after the All Star break and held on. 04 was the year when everyone had written them off and they went 36-10 to clinch the WC. Although both years were remarkable this year is more reminiscent of 04 than 05. If they actually pull it off(Knock on Wood) it will be more of a feat than either of those 2 years because this years starting pitching sucks compared to what we had both of those years.

[MadMax]

True But that was early on in the season, and as far as I remember they had the WC lead a little bit after the All Star break and held on. 04 was the year when everyone had written them off and they went 36-10 to clinch the WC. Although both years were remarkable this year is more reminiscent of 04 than 05. If they actually pull it off(Knock on Wood) it will be more of a feat than either of those 2 years because this years starting pitching sucks compared to what we had both of those years.

ahhh..i misunderstood...good point. matches what i said earlier...this one snuck up on you.

agreed entirely on your last point....given starting pitching, i never would have dreamed this. crazy.

[Uprising]

WOW. This is amazing!

Can't believe the Reds pulled that one out after giving up the late lead. :D

[BMoney]

It seems like the Reds have helped the Astros out in previous years in situations like this. Austin Kearns was quite the hero as I recall. Does anybody else know what I'm talking about?

[stonecold999]

wow.. astros are now 4 games back...are we the Rockies last year?

[bobrek]

wow.. astros are now 4 games back...are we the Rockies last year?

No, last year's Rockies were the 2004 Astros.

[htownballa23]

We need a strong finish everytime to make the playoffs.

2004: 48-26
2005: 45-30
2008: 28-10 so far

We have an easy schedule so we just need to keep on winning our games. Cubs/Cards/Brewers will keep beating up on each other.

[rrj_gamz]

We need a strong finish everytime to make the playoffs.

2004: 48-26
2005: 45-30
2008: 28-10 so far

We have an easy schedule so we just need to keep on winning our games. Cubs/Cards/Brewers will keep beating up on each other.

Agreed...4 games back...Amazing...

I said it before and I'll say it again...How bout them Reds...woohoo...

[msn]

No, last year's Rockies were the 2004 Astros.
WORD 

[msn]

The Astros are 28-10 since July 25.
Since July 25 they're 32-12. They're 28-10 since August 1. They're 34-16 since the ASB.

[SWTsig]

pray for the cubs, reds, and marlins.

[stonecold999]

can someone post the complete schedules of Brewers, Phillies, and Cardinals here? so we can play a prediction game?

[leroy420]

It seems like the Reds have helped the Astros out in previous years in situations like this. Austin Kearns was quite the hero as I recall. Does anybody else know what I'm talking about?

In deed. He destroyed the Cubs in a series while he was still with the Reds. It think it was 2004 and helped the Astros pass the Cubs in the end.

[RedRaiderRocket]

can someone post the complete schedules of Brewers, Phillies, and Cardinals here? so we can play a prediction game?

Ask and you shall receive.

Brewers Remaining Schedule

Wed, Sep 10 Cincinnati 2:05 PM
Thu, Sep 11 @ Philadelphia 7:05 PM
Fri, Sep 12 @ Philadelphia 7:05 PM
Sat, Sep 13 @ Philadelphia 3:55 PM
Sun, Sep 14 @ Philadelphia 1:35 PM
Tue, Sep 16 @ Cubs 8:05 PM
Wed, Sep 17 @ Cubs 8:05 PM
Thu, Sep 18 @ Cubs 2:20 PM
Fri, Sep 19 @ Cincinnati 7:10 PM
Sat, Sep 20 @ Cincinnati 3:55 PM FOX
Sun, Sep 21 @ Cincinnati 1:15 PM
Tue, Sep 23 Pittsburgh 8:05 PM
Wed, Sep 24 Pittsburgh 8:05 PM
Thu, Sep 25 Pittsburgh 8:05 PM
Fri, Sep 26 Cubs 8:05 PM
Sat, Sep 27 Cubs 1:05 PM FOX
Sun, Sep 28 Cubs 2:05 PM


Phillies Remaining Schedule

Wed, Sep 10 Florida 4:05 PM
Thu, Sep 11 Milwaukee 7:05 PM
Fri, Sep 12 Milwaukee 7:05 PM
Sat, Sep 13 Milwaukee 3:55 PM
Sun, Sep 14 Milwaukee 1:35 PM
Tue, Sep 16 @ Atlanta 7:10 PM
Wed, Sep 17 @ Atlanta 7:10 PM
Thu, Sep 18 @ Atlanta 7:10 PM
Fri, Sep 19 @ Florida 7:10 PM
Sat, Sep 20 @ Florida 7:10 PM
Sun, Sep 21 @ Florida 4:10 PM
Mon, Sep 22 Atlanta 7:05 PM
Tue, Sep 23 Atlanta 7:05 PM
Wed, Sep 24 Atlanta 7:05 PM
Fri, Sep 26 Washington 7:05 PM
Sat, Sep 27 Washington 7:05 PM
Sun, Sep 28 Washington 1:35 PM


Cardinals Remaining Schedule

Wed, Sep 10 Cubs 8:15 PM
Thu, Sep 11 Cubs 8:15 PM
Fri, Sep 12 @ Pittsburgh 7:05 PM
Sat, Sep 13 @ Pittsburgh 7:05 PM
Sun, Sep 14 @ Pittsburgh 1:35 PM
Tue, Sep 16 @ Cincinnati 7:10 PM
Wed, Sep 17 @ Cincinnati 7:10 PM
Thu, Sep 18 @ Cincinnati 7:10 PM
Fri, Sep 19 @ Cubs 2:20 PM
Sat, Sep 20 @ Cubs 3:55 PM
Sun, Sep 21 @ Cubs 2:20 PM
Mon, Sep 22 Arizona 8:15 PM
Tue, Sep 23 Arizona 8:15 PM
Wed, Sep 24 Arizona 8:15 PM
Thu, Sep 25 Arizona 2:15 PM
Fri, Sep 26 Cincinnati 8:15 PM
Sat, Sep 27 Cincinnati 7:15 PM
Sun, Sep 28 Cincinnati 2:15 PM

Astros Remaining Schedule

Wed, Sep 10 Pittsburgh 8:05 PM
Thu, Sep 11 Pittsburgh 8:05 PM
Fri, Sep 12 Cubs 8:05 PM
Sat, Sep 13 Cubs 7:05 PM
Sun, Sep 14 Cubs 2:05 PM
Tue, Sep 16 @ Florida 7:10 PM
Wed, Sep 17 @ Florida 7:10 PM
Thu, Sep 18 @ Florida 7:10 PM
Fri, Sep 19 @ Pittsburgh 7:05 PM
Sat, Sep 20 @ Pittsburgh 7:05 PM
Sun, Sep 21 @ Pittsburgh 1:35 PM
Tue, Sep 23 Cincinnati 8:05 PM
Wed, Sep 24 Cincinnati 8:05 PM
Thu, Sep 25 Cincinnati 8:05 PM
Fri, Sep 26 Atlanta 8:05 PM
Sat, Sep 27 Atlanta 7:05 PM
Sun, Sep 28 Atlanta 2:05 PM

[desihooper]

can someone post the complete schedules of Brewers, Phillies, and Cardinals here? so we can play a prediction game?

Zachary Levine does a great job in breaking it all down here (http://blogs.chron.com/unofficialscorer/2008/09/chasing_the_wild_card_1.html)

Essentially, if the Brewers go 10-7 the rest of the way, an approximation of what they've done to this point, the Astros would have to go 14-3 for a tie, but the Phillies could ruin it by going 14-3, while the Cardinals could by going 15-3.

With the season coming down to 17 games for the Brewers, Phillies and Astros and 18 for the Cardinals, here's a look at their remaining schedules.
Milwaukee Philadelphia St. Louis Houston
vs. CIN (1) vs. FLA (1) vs. CHC (2) vs. PIT (2)
at PHL (4) vs. MIL (4) at PIT (3) vs. CHC (3)
at CHC (3) at ATL (3) at CIN (3) at FLA (3)
at CIN (3) at FLA (3) at CHC (3) at PIT (3)
vs. PIT (3) vs. ATL (3) vs. ARZ (4) vs. CIN (3)
vs. CHC (3) vs. WAS (3) vs. CIN (3) vs. ATL (3)

To summarize the schedules, here are the number of games each contender plays against teams with winning records (WR), losing records (LR) and .500 records.
Team WR LR .500
Milwaukee 10 7 0
Philadelphia 8 9 0
St. Louis 5 13 0
Houston 6 11 0


It's not only whom you're playing, but where you're playing. Here are the home and road games on the four contending teams' remaining schedules.
Team Home Road
Milwaukee 7 10
Philadelphia 11 6
St. Louis 9 9
Houston 11 6

Check back for updates daily, and let us know whether you think the Astros can make it.

NEXT UPDATE: Approx. 4 p.m. after Reds-Brewers

[right1]

3 RUN HOMER JERRY HAIRSTON JR. off SABATHIA!!!

REDS UP 3-1 in the fifth!!!!!

[Silfam]

3 RUN HOMER JERRY HAIRSTON JR. off SABATHIA!!!

REDS UP 3-1 in the fifth!!!!!

a huge double play right there that hardy hit into....keep it goin reds!

[BrooksBall]

CC losing? Is it possible?

[stonecold999]

a huge double play right there that hardy hit into....keep it goin reds!

wow.. anyone got a link to watch the game online??? go REDDDSSS

[BrooksBall]

3 up, 3 down in the bottom of the 6th for Arroyo. 2 of those 3 were Braun and Fielder. 9 outs to go.

[msn]

MILWAUKEE'S GABE KAPLER LEFT THE GAME IN THE TOP OF THE SIXTH INNING WITH AN UNDISCLOSED INJURY.
hrmm... (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=AoypL2wplLJwPHJi.fTegmARvLYF?gid=280910108)

[stonecold999]

3 up, 3 down in the bottom of the 6th for Arroyo. 2 of those 3 were Braun and Fielder. 9 outs to go.

u watching it on TV or online?

[airbulllard]

bunt single by arroyo, haha, gotta love it. stros gotta take care of business tonight if the reds can hold on for the win.

[BrooksBall]

u watching it on TV or online?

I get Extra Innings to be able to watch the Indians. My father is from Cleveland and I grew up as a Tribe fan.

[BrooksBall]

Mike Cameron should never be walked.

Bad bottom of the 7th so far for the Reds. They walk the leadoff hitter, Cameron. Then with 1 out and Cameron on 2nd, Keppinger makes a bad throw to first and Cameron scores on an error.

2 outs now with a man on 2nd and Durham at the plate. Durham has 2 walks and a single on the day.

Durham hits a sharp grounder but the play is made and the Reds are out of the inning.

Reds 3 - Brewers 2 heading to the 8th. Mota is warming up with CC at 113 pitches.

[stonecold999]

well still 3-2.. come on redssss

[BrooksBall]

well still 3-2.. come on redssss

I checked channelsurfing.net for the game but no luck. I know there are sites out there that show live games. I would imagine the Brewers game is available somewhere but I couldn't find it.

You can try this but I think you have to register: http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=17741&part=sports

[stobbartjohn]

It's OK BrooksBall, I sent him a link on MSN

[BrooksBall]

It's OK BrooksBall, I sent him a link on MSN

Cool, thanks.

[airbulllard]

6 outs left. bronson is sure to come out after 120 pitches. who's the reds set up guy? i know COCO went yesterday but home he can close it again in the 9th.

[Landlord Landry]

I checked channelsurfing.net for the game but no luck. I know there are sites out there that show live games. I would imagine the Brewers game is available somewhere but I couldn't find it.

You can try this but I think you have to register: http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=17741&part=sports

myp2pforum.eu

[stonecold999]

It's OK BrooksBall, I sent him a link on MSN

Yes, thank you. I'm watching it now, the brewers lost 2 in a row to the Reds right?

[BrooksBall]

6 outs left. bronson is sure to come out after 120 pitches. who's the reds set up guy? i know COCO went yesterday but home he can close it again in the 9th.

Cordero hasn't been as good as last season. His ERA and WHIP are up and his K-rate is down. He is still pretty good though so hopefully the Reds can get out of the 8th without any damage and give him the ball.

[Landlord Landry]

oohh, sorry, didnt see the other myp2p post.

you dont have to register, but you do have to download tvantz or sopcast.

[BrooksBall]

Hardy leads off against Weathers with a single. Braun up with no outs. Fielder on deck.

Braun walks. Men on 1st and 2nd with no outs.

Crap. Fielder singles. Bases loaded, no outs. It'll take a small miracle for the Reds to not give up at least 1 run.

[stonecold999]

man.. David Weathers has failed us once again

[airbulllard]

shieeet weathers

[thech0senone]

crap bases loaded nobody out...

[stonecold999]

now it's tied up at 3.. omg.. i have a feeling that Reds might lose this one

[The Cat]

Tie game, winning run on third. **** you Weathers.

[BrooksBall]

Brewers take the lead. Weathers was terrible but Keppinger's error in the 7th looks even worse now.

[stobbartjohn]

Ah ffs, 4-3 Brewers

[BrooksBall]

Reds will need to comeback against Torres. Hanigan, pinch hitter, Hairston due up.

Brandon Phillips is available so he may be the pinch hitter.

[stonecold999]

9th inning is coming up.. im stunned.. i dont know what to say... thank you David Weathers... When the Astros needed you.. you suck.. When they don't.. you are the god.. you will forever be loved by astros haters..

[stobbartjohn]

Reds will need to comeback against Torres. Hanigan, pinch hitter, Hairston due up.

Brandon Phillips is available so he may be the pinch hitter.

Well they did it the other night from 4-2 down.

Both of the series wins have been 5-4 wins. Time for a bit of history to repeat itself

[Creepy Crawl]

man.. David Weathers has failed us once again

I never liked Tackleberry.

http://dutchysoccer.com/images/same/12%20tackleberry.jpg

[BrooksBall]

I never liked Tackleberry.

http://dutchysoccer.com/images/same/12%20tackleberry.jpg

Weathers never should have left the Academy.

Some kid named Castillo strikes out. He had a .615 AVG in 13 ABs coming in.

They pinch hit Javier Valentin instead of Phillips with 1 out.

Edit: Valentin goes down swinging. It's up to Dickerson now, pinch hitting for Hairston, who hit a 3-run HR earlier against CC.

[BrooksBall]

Well, that sucks. The Reds bullpen and Keppinger's error blow the game. You can't ask for a better chance to steal one against CC, who left the game down 2 runs.

Instead of a 3.5 game WC deficit, we now need Moehler to help keep it at 4 tonight.

[thech0senone]

Oh well, I am pleased that the Reds were able to take 2/3 from the Brewers.

[The Cat]

Luckiest team ever. How in the world can Solomon f'n Torres strike out the side?!?

[stobbartjohn]

It's ok. Let's face it, if, 3 days ago, if you had offered us a 2-1 Reds series win and the chance to have the gap at 4 games after tonight, we would have took it without even thinking. Would have been a bonus tonight if they'd lost but we just have to take care of business, then we have Roy pitching tomorrow night, whilst the Brewers and Phillies beat up on each other. I'm still positive

[Landlord Landry]

Oh well, I am pleased that the Reds were able to take 2/3 from the Brewers.


even after this game......it looks like the brew crew is in some serious trouble.

[BrooksBall]

On a bright note, the Phillies are now losing 2-1 in the bottom of the 3rd. Their pitcher, Myers, a .039 hitter, leads off with a double though and Rollins is up.

[TMac640]

Luckiest team ever. How in the world can Solomon f'n Torres strike out the side?!?

What was the situation? Because if it was no one on , then I can believe that. He's had a pretty solid year.

[Landlord Landry]

another run for FLA.

[Major]

Luckiest team ever. How in the world can Solomon f'n Torres strike out the side?!?

Torres has an ERA in the 2's and many more saves than blown saves. I think you could make a much better case that the Reds got lucky to beat him two nights ago than you could that Milwaukee got lucky not blowing a save today. :confused:

[BrooksBall]

Torres has an ERA in the 2's and many more saves than blown saves. I think you could make a much better case that the Reds got lucky to beat him two nights ago than you could that Milwaukee got lucky not blowing a save today. :confused:

I think you could make a better case that David Weathers was garbage today and that Keppinger's error was a costly one.

[H-Town Info]

Astros up in about 5 mins on PTI

[The Cat]

Torres has an ERA in the 2's and many more saves than blown saves. I think you could make a much better case that the Reds got lucky to beat him two nights ago than you could that Milwaukee got lucky not blowing a save today. :confused:

When did I say anything about the game result? :confused: I thought I made it clear that I was referring to him striking out the side. Torres is a decent reliever, but historically, he throws to contact and isn't at all an overpowering guy. His K/9 for both this season as well as his career is 5.7. I'd say that makes it fairly rare for three consecutive batters to be unable to make contact against him.

[right1]

Just checked back in. My jinx on Sabathia was wasted. Should of known it was a bad idea to throw in Weathers with Hurricane Ike brewing in the Gulf and headed towards Houston. Bad combo. Weathers sucks :mad: .

On a brighter note, Moehler is pitching tonight and my tooth kind of hurts. Could be a good sign ;) .

[Major]

When did I say anything about the game result? :confused: I thought I made it clear that I was referring to him striking out the side.

Sorry - you said the Brewers were the luckiest team ever. Unless you expected Torres to blow the save, what does it matter if he struck out the side or just got three flyball outs? Would they be less lucky in that scenario? Pitchers strike out the side here and there. Torres has done it before and he'll do it again. I don't see how it makes them lucky that he did that today?

[BrooksBall]

I hear that there was a big group of Astros watching the Brewers game on TV in the clubhouse. They hadn't done that all year until today. Time to put that disappointment out of their heads and take care of what is under their control.

[bobrek]

I hear that there was a big group of Astros watching the Brewers game on TV in the clubhouse. They hadn't done that all year until today. Time to put that disappointment out of their heads and take care of what is under their control.

They watched the games last night after theirs was over.

[BrooksBall]

They watched the games last night after theirs was over.

I was just going off what Zach Levine of the Chron wrote. Maybe, he meant before games? Not sure.

[Uprising]

nice play by castillo. too bad te reds lost, gotta win tonight!

[Landlord Landry]

cubbies kickin cards butt.

4-1

[stobbartjohn]

Grrrr, tied game all of a sudden. I wish Gorzelanny hadn't got injured, that guy really really sucks. We couldda scored off him all night

[Landlord Landry]

well, that steal attempt looks pretty weak now.

[Roc Paint]

C'mon Miggy!

[DaDakota]

Tejada blast.

DD

[Groogrux]

GRAND SLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Roc Paint]

Yeah Baby!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[Cannonball]

I LOVE SALAMI!!!!

[TMac640]

The apocalypse has come. Tejada driving in runs??? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Landlord Landry]

well that should bury the pirates for this evening.

[The Cat]

Sorry - you said the Brewers were the luckiest team ever. Unless you expected Torres to blow the save, what does it matter if he struck out the side or just got three flyball outs? Would they be less lucky in that scenario? Pitchers strike out the side here and there. Torres has done it before and he'll do it again. I don't see how it makes them lucky that he did that today?

Because when you put the ball in play, you have a chance for the other team (Rickie Weeks, in particular) to make a mistake and help you. :) Small chance, but given Weeks' performance of late, it's one I would've liked to have seen.

In the meantime, man it would be great to have the Tejada of April come back.

[Ronny]

No Matsui, no Lee, and the rest of the Astros get red hot? Hope things don't get messed up if those two return.

[TMac640]

Odd stat line for Moehler, no walks yet no strikeouts either, lol. Can't argue with the fact that he was effective yet again though :)

[thacabbage]

No Matsui, no Lee, and the rest of the Astros get red hot? Hope things don't get messed up if those two return.
I haven't been following the team. Is there any chance at all of Lee returning?

[bobrek]

I haven't been following the team. Is there any chance at all of Lee returning?

Not in the regular season. Slight chance if they make the playoffs.

[TMac640]

I haven't been following the team. Is there any chance at all of Lee returning?

None really. I don't know if they gave a time table with the injury but he's pretty much done since he had surgery about a month ago.

[Roc Paint]

Not in the regular season. Slight chance if they make the playoffs.


Great chance if we get back to the World Series. ;)

[Landlord Landry]

Not in the regular season. Slight chance if they make the playoffs.

coop was on 790 today, he said Lee might be available to pinch hit in a week or so.

[bobrek]

coop was on 790 today, he said Lee might be available to pinch hit in a week or so.

That would be good. Something must have changed in the past couple of days to make them a bit more optimistic.

[The Cat]

coop was on 790 today, he said Lee might be available to pinch hit in a week or so.

You sure he was talking about Lee and not Wigginton? From what I've read, including an update this week, Lee has zero chance before the playoffs.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=7387382&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

Wigginton's timetable to begin pinch hitting is this weekend to early next week, that's why I'm guessing it's him. It's his injury that has me worried the most too... Ty had really carried this team for several weeks. :(

[Landlord Landry]

790thesportsanimal.com

charlie palillo podcast with coop. it's around the 20 minute mark.

[bobrek]

You sure he was talking about Lee and not Wigginton? From what I've read, including an update this week, Lee has zero chance before the playoffs.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=7387382&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

Wigginton's timetable to begin pinch hitting is this weekend to early next week, that's why I'm guessing it's him. It's his injury that has me worried the most too... Ty had really carried this team for several weeks. :(

More from Astros.com indicating it'll be at least another month:

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080910&content_id=3452247&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

[Landlord Landry]

dam cards tryin to win again......****ers.

[TesseracT]

Cards lose..

it sucks that Mil next series is against the Phillies

[Landlord Landry]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/rhien_photos/wcstandings.jpg

[BrooksBall]

a little bad Weathers today but all-in-all, a good day for the Stros

[The Cat]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/rhien_photos/wcstandings.jpg

Awesome. What's funny is on PTI today, they had a segment about the odds of the Astros making the playoffs. Wilbon gave 0, which I could respect, if it were a good reason -- such as the talent disparity between the teams. But it wasn't that... it's that there were too many teams between Houston and Milwaukee (Philly, STL). I sat there and shook my head at the TV, because they were all of freakin' one game apart... and now, less than five hours after making that statement, the only team in front of the Astros is the Brewers.

Never ceases to amaze me how little research or knowledge ESPN folks have on a national basis. They could care less, really.

[The Cat]

And yeah, it's Wigginton who can pinch hit next week... he had a setback. :(

HOUSTON -- Ty Wigginton had plans to test his strained groin with running drills and batting practice on Wednesday, but he stopped the running part early when he felt discomfort in the injured area.

"I think if I would have cranked it up at all, it would have grabbed," Wigginton said. "I didn't want it to grab and set it back again, so I had to shut it down. So it wasn't as good as I hoped for."

Wigginton, who strained his groin running out a ground ball on Saturday in Colorado, hit off a tee and took batting practice and is hoping to be available to pinch-hit during the Astros' road trip next week.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080910&content_id=3452061&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

[Landlord Landry]

And yeah, it's Wigginton who can pinch hit next week... he had a setback. :(



listen to the podcast. Carlos Lee may be available to pinch it the last week of the season.

[right1]

Amazing. The Astros have allowed more runs than they have scored and yet they are 12 games over .500

[BrooksBall]

listen to the podcast. Carlos Lee may be available to pinch it the last week of the season.

I just listened and it sounded like extreme speculation. He said something along of the lines of "maybe with 3 days left in the season, if the doctors say he can do it, he may pinch hit, maybe".

It sounded like blind optimism and prayer more than what Cooper actually thinks will happen.

[The Cat]

I just listened and it sounded like extreme speculation. He said something along of the lines of "maybe with 3 days left in the season, if the doctors say he can do it, he may pinch hit, maybe".

It sounded like blind optimism and prayer more than what Cooper actually thinks will happen.

Yeah, I did too. In any event, they were talking the last week of the season and more specifically the final series, and going against the word of Wade and the doctors -- definitely not "in a week or so."

On the other hand, Wigginton's absence might not mean that much -- it's starting to look like we won't be playing this weekend regardless.

[bobrek]

I just listened and it sounded like extreme speculation. He said something along of the lines of "maybe with 3 days left in the season, if the doctors say he can do it, he may pinch hit, maybe".

It sounded like blind optimism and prayer more than what Cooper actually thinks will happen.

Yep. That's how I heard it as well. IF there is a pinch hitting situation (Cooper specifically said in the last 3 games of the season), and IF Lee can swing a bat, Cooper may use him. Pallilo tried to pin him down on the last week of the season and Cooper did not sound optimistic.

[BrooksBall]

Yep. That's how I heard it as well. IF there is a pinch hitting situation (Cooper specifically said in the last 3 games of the season), and IF Lee can swing a bat, Cooper may use him. Pallilo tried to pin him down on the last week of the season and Cooper did not sound optimistic.

Right, and after Palillo anxiously tried to pin him down on the last week thing, Cooper didn't really answer and instead said something like "I think we will be playing in October and Carlos will be able to join us".

[Landlord Landry]

they were talking the last week of the season and more specifically the final series, and going against the word of Wade and the doctors -- definitely not "in a week or so."



lol. how long do you think is left in the season?

[The Cat]

lol. how long do you think is left in the season?

Almost two weeks. :)

I'd be shocked if Lee has another AB for this team this season.

[Landlord Landry]

Almost two weeks. :)

I'd be shocked if Lee has another AB for this team this season.

well coop said the last week or so of the season. SUPRISE, thats 'a week or so' away. Congrats! you are smater than a banana!

[Cannonball]

Amazing. The Astros have allowed more runs than they have scored and yet they are 12 games over .500

The Astros and Marlins are the only 2 teams above .500 (15 teams total) who have a negative run differential. The Indians and Diamondbacks are below .500 but have positive run differentials. Cleveland is +44.