Scola/Landry one of the best PF rotation in the NBA?

[devin23]

Only PF rotation in a team that's probably better would be Detriot's Mcdyess/Maxiell. We really solved our PF problem and should be good at that position for a long time if we can keep them both.

[SpiffyRifi]

While I love Scola and Landry and theink they are the best power forwards we've had in a while...I think its hard to say they are the second best power forward combo in the leauge. The Celtics has Garnett and Big Baby Davis, the Jazz have Boozer and Milsap, the Spurs have Duncan and Horry, and the Lakers have Odom and Turiaf. Those are just the ones I can think off the top of my head. While Scola and Landry may be better than the second player in those rotations, their starters dominate Scola or Landry. Our guys are hustle players and have a lot of upside, but its far to early to be crowning them as the best power forward roation in the NBA.

[jopatmc]

Only PF rotation in a team that's probably better would be Detriot's Mcdyess/Maxiell. We really solved our PF problem and should be good at that position for a long time if we can keep them both.

I'd take ours over Detroit's. McDyess is on the downside. Speaking of McDyess. I've been thinking about who you could compare Landry to. Anybody remember McDyess pre-injury? Tremendous explosion. But I still think Landry is quicker. Right now, I can't think of a quicker PF than Landry.

Boozer and Millsap is a good combination.

And if I played for the Celtics or Spurs, me and Garnett or me and Duncan would be a great combo.


And interesting would be a comprehensive look at the highest scoring frontcourts (C and PFs) in the league. We'd have to be right up there with Yao, Scola, and Landry.

[devin23]

Well when both our Rookie PFs were in the top 10 in rookies back when Landry was healthy, i'd say i believe we have a pretty damn good PF rotation. :D

[SpiffyRifi]

But I still think Landry is quicker. Right now, I can't think of a quicker PF than Landry.

How about Amare Stoudamire?

[Sherlock]

Before Landry went down, for 10 games there, we had better production at the PF position than anyone in the whole league.

[EddieWasSnubbed]

I love Scola and Landry. It's a good rotation. In them, we have hustle, heart, and the offense we have not had in the past few years. I do think, though, that we can't say they're the best because they don't have enough size. We desperately need size on this team. That's what we're missing with Yao. Guys like Garnett, Amare, Shaq, Dwight Howard, and even David West are going to push us around in the post, thus canceling our power forwards out of the game.

[BoomShakalaka]

How about Amare Stoudamire?

I dont think he's quicker than Landry, but more height and gets higher

[BoomShakalaka]

I love Scola and Landry. It's a good rotation. In them, we have hustle, heart, and the offense we have not had in the past few years. I do think, though, that we can't say they're the best because they don't have enough size. We desperately need size on this team. That's what we're missing with Yao. Guys like Garnett, Amare, Shaq, Dwight Howard, and even David West are going to push us around in the post, thus canceling our power forwards out of the game.

Did you see the games with the Celtics and Hornets. Garnett and West did not go off. Landry went crazy against the Hornets earlier this season. Howard, Shaq are centers not PFs. Know your positions.

[jopatmc]

How about Amare Stoudamire?


I believe Landry's quicker. When you consider the amount of time between catching the ball, going up and finishing, I think Landry is quicker. Amare is quick, no doubt about it. And he's 6'10". He would probably be as quick as Landry if he were a little bit shorter. What adds to Landry's quickness is most of the time, He goes straight up and flushes, using the rim for protection on the topside as well as the bottomside. He basically snakes the ball right over the rim which makes it virtually impossible to block unless someone is willing to get their hand broken dangling it right above the rim. Landry gets up high enough to pull the hammer back and we've seen him do it sometimes when there is space. But he shines in traffic. by getting up so quick and mopping the rim with it as he puts it down with force.

Amare on the other hand, most of the time, simply jumps higher and can throw it down over everybody on the floor. However, this takes longer, and is less efficient than Landry's finishes. If Amare wanted to, he could increase his efficiency and quickness by dunking the way Landry does, a straight up and down. Amare is not as quick.

[devin23]

While I love Scola and Landry and theink they are the best power forwards we've had in a while...I think its hard to say they are the second best power forward combo in the leauge. The Celtics has Garnett and Big Baby Davis, the Jazz have Boozer and Milsap, the Spurs have Duncan and Horry, and the Lakers have Odom and Turiaf. Those are just the ones I can think off the top of my head. While Scola and Landry may be better than the second player in those rotations, their starters dominate Scola or Landry. Our guys are hustle players and have a lot of upside, but its far to early to be crowning them as the best power forward roation in the NBA.

Yeah forgot about Boozer/Milsap. That probably is the BEST PF combo in the league right now. Once gasol and Bynum comes back, if Odom plays backup PF, that one will be the best. But duncan/horry is very 1 sided. Horry is only there for clutch shooting nowadays. He sucks at everything else now. Garnett/Davis is good too.

[DaDakota]

Duncan and a bag of beans?

DD

[BoomShakalaka]

Duncan and a bag of beans?

DD

Chuck Hayes has done a pretty good defensive job on him this season. Lets not forget about Hayes now, he can be useful at times.

[jopatmc]

I love Scola and Landry. It's a good rotation. In them, we have hustle, heart, and the offense we have not had in the past few years. I do think, though, that we can't say they're the best because they don't have enough size. We desperately need size on this team. That's what we're missing with Yao. Guys like Garnett, Amare, Shaq, Dwight Howard, and even David West are going to push us around in the post, thus canceling our power forwards out of the game.


I think the way you should look at it is our power forwards are gonna cancel them out. Think about it. When you have two guys that combined can give you 26 points and 12-14 boards, you cancel out Garnett, Duncan, and Amare's production. And then you've still got Yao giving you 20/10. Shaq and Dwight should not even be in the discussion. First of all, Shaq is on the extreme downside. I'll take Yao over Shaq any day and you will too. And with Scola and Landry canceling out Amare's production, we will be on the plus side at the 4/5 spots against them or Boston/San Antonio for the same reasons.

Think about it. With a healthy Yao, we've got an average production of a little over 50 ppg and 20-24 boards per game from our center and PFs. That's crazy man. In any game, half the points and rebounds coming from 3 guys playing the power positions.

Think about it this way. Who else in the league can match our production at the power spots (Center and Power Forward) when Yao and they are healthy?

[solid]

Probably the best work at the PF position since the Championship years and before. This has been a glaring problem for many years. Sort of like the PG position. And, yes, despite his magical run during the streak, I still contend that Rafer is not the answer. The larger body of evidence supports both observations. Why the Rockets have struggled so long in addressing obvious weaknesses is hard to fathom.

[v3.0]

We have a good PF combo, but we really need a C/PF backup that can slide to either position at a moments notice, in case Landry's knee acts up again, or Yao's yearly injury hits again. Chuck Hayes is a good defensive presence, but our offensive options takes a big nosedive when he's in there.

Someone in the mold of Lamarcus Aldridge or McDyess. Unfortunately, those guys are entrenched in their team's rotation.

[poprocks]

Landry needs more minutes. The way he plays he could be hitting 20-10. Really unloads T-Mac and prevents doubling defenses. They gotta focus on Landry. Landry keeps it up, defenses are gonna start doublnig him. I agree that having Scola and Landry on the floor at the same time poses a very tough problem for opposing defenses.

[ColomboLQ]

Probably the best work at the PF position since the Championship years and before. This has been a glaring problem for many years. Sort of like the PG position. And, yes, despite his magical run during the streak, I still contend that Rafer is not the answer. The larger body of evidence supports both observations. Why the Rockets have struggled so long in addressing obvious weaknesses is hard to fathom.

The Rockets tried hard to address the PG situation in the offseason. They added Mike James, Steve Francis, and drafted Aaron Brooks. The problem was that none of those moves has worked as of yet. But they did try to fix it.

[Rockets1616]

Did you see the games with the Celtics and Hornets. Garnett and West did not go off. Landry went crazy against the Hornets earlier this season. Howard, Shaq are centers not PFs. Know your positions.

Yeah, but the post is the post. You need tall people in the post because whether they are PF or C, they are gonna be fighting for the rebound. Thats why Perkins on the Celtics killed us on the boards because we didn't have anybody his size that could box him out.

[pmac]

Duncan and a bag of beans?

DD

especially if that bag of beans is only playin around 10 min or less

I don't think the devin23 thought this one through, but both of those are putting up pretty good numbers.

I do think we have great versatility at PF, we have athleticism, we have great defense, we have great post offense, unfortunately their in 3 different people as opposed to 1 like a KG or Duncan. And none them are tall.

[dafranchise0309]

If we get a healthy yao and tmac next year....we will go to the finals...we have all the pieces including these 2

[jopatmc]

We have a good PF combo, but we really need a C/PF backup that can slide to either position at a moments notice, in case Landry's knee acts up again, or Yao's yearly injury hits again. Chuck Hayes is a good defensive presence, but our offensive options takes a big nosedive when he's in there.

Someone in the mold of Lamarcus Aldridge or McDyess. Unfortunately, those guys are entrenched in their team's rotation.

I'm in total agreement. We need a tall backup center than can block a few, rebound some, and give us another offensive option after Deke retires (hopefully this year).

And I think I know the ideal guy.

RAEF LAFRENTZ

Think about it. He's an expiring next season, will likely get bought out at the trade deadline after being traded. We could sign him for the minimum at that point. He's 6'11", plenty of length, great distance shooter, and used to have a very decent interior game. He's still got the ability to block a few shots and pull some boards. No, he's not a great defender and never has been. But if he were, he'd be up for another $10 mill per year deal after this one expires. And best of all, he can easily swing to the PF position if someone goes twin towers on us and be very effective. I think he'd be ideal coming off the bench as Yao's replacement next year. Can't think of anybody better we could get for a low salary.

[magnetik]

^^^^^^
please no Raef. I never want to be a fan of a team with a player they rely on called Raef LaFrentz (just imagine the nicknames you would see here) :D However I do remember one breakout game he had against the Rockets, but that happens to a lot of scrubs playing the Rox it seems. (same thing last night with Pietrus.)

[plutoblue11]

I actually think Raef would be good for the Rockets, remember he wouldn't get alot of minutes because of Yao, Hayes, and possibly Mutombo. He's a great situational player that would help us.

[Dr. Basketball]

especially if that bag of beans is only playin around 10 min or less

I don't think the devin23 thought this one through, but both of those are putting up pretty good numbers.

I do think we have great versatility at PF, we have athleticism, we have great defense, we have great post offense, unfortunately their in 3 different people as opposed to 1 like a KG or Duncan. And none them are tall.


hit it on the nail