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Joshaaronb

11-28-2007, 12:28 PM

I think it is a Great Fit for Briles, I think UH lost a darn good coach.

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3131738)

K mf G

11-28-2007, 12:31 PM

nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gucci888

11-28-2007, 12:34 PM

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=138394

msn

11-28-2007, 01:21 PM

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=138394
Bah. This is the better forum for it.

noming

11-28-2007, 04:23 PM

I think it is a Great Fit for Briles, I think UH lost a darn good coach.

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3131738)

Traitor!!! Coog alumi leaving to coach another team in texas!
Traitor!!!

texanskan

11-28-2007, 04:36 PM

Traitor!!! Coog alumi leaving to coach another team in texas!
Traitor!!!

He finished at Tech he is a Red Raider

Murph23

11-28-2007, 05:00 PM

Good move by Briles. It was time for him to stop coaching at Cooger High. :D

msn

11-28-2007, 05:24 PM

He finished at Tech he is a Red Raider
So he's been a traitor for a couple of decades, then.

ryan17wagner

11-28-2007, 11:21 PM

So he's been a traitor for a couple of decades, then.

Yeah, he was a traitor at Stephenville High for all these years.

bigtexxx

11-29-2007, 12:02 AM

Why hello, Coog fan. Ready for Rice to stomp a mudhole in you next season? Expect some "lean years", brah

DonnyMost

11-29-2007, 12:33 AM

Why hello, Coog fan. Ready for Rice to stomp a mudhole in you next season? Expect some "lean years", brah

*Pity reply*

DonnyMost

11-29-2007, 12:34 AM

He finished at Tech he is a Red Raider

he only went to tech to finish because his parents were killed in a car accident his senior year, so he wanted to be closer to home.. not exactly a raider by choice..

msn

11-29-2007, 01:25 AM

Yeah, he was a traitor at Stephenville High for all these years.
That's right. Once you leave, you're OUT. :D

he only went to tech to finish because his parents were killed in a car accident his senior year, so he wanted to be closer to home
Wow; I had no idea.

surrender

11-29-2007, 09:47 AM

F BAYLOR

sammy

11-29-2007, 01:35 PM

F BAYLOR

why? cuz we have a way better school than U of H ?

NJRocket

11-29-2007, 01:37 PM

Who

cares

Astro101

11-29-2007, 05:06 PM

I guess Brile's 4 star QB will follow suit! Woot!

jev5555

11-29-2007, 09:34 PM

Cannonball

11-29-2007, 10:36 PM

Why hello, Coog fan. Ready for Rice to stomp a mudhole in you next season? Expect some "lean years", brah

With Bailiff as Rice's coach, UH shouldn't be worried.

bwarren

11-29-2007, 10:36 PM

It's for the best...Major Applewhite is the next great thing...coogs need to jump on Major before someone else does.

I know there are some people pissed off but seriously this man found a job that was willing to pay him more for doing the same thing he'd been doing for a few years now.

Rest assured he won't be unpacking any boxes because his heart lies in Lubbock...and once the Tech job becomes available he will be the first in line to interview.

You know, it was a real punch in the gut when I heard that CAB accepted the Baylor offer. I knew it was only a matter of time, but I figured it would be another year or so before he would move on.

On the other hand, I really like the idea of Major Applewhite coming in here. He has clearly shown an ability to do a lot with very little at Rice, and I think he has done a pretty good job at Alabama (something tells me he had more say at Rice than he does now). Major would be a great fit to come in and replace the offensive system CAB developed at UH.

My big concern with Major is whether he's ready to take on the role of recruiter. His youth might make more than a few parents nervous about sending their kids off to UH with a relatively untested coach. On the other hand, if Major comes in and catches fire, it would be an amazing spark for a program that greatly in need of one.

Dave Maggard has said that there is some pressure to pick a coach who will make a splash, but I'm not sure that there's a good option for that out there. Here's my short list of somewhat splashy coaching prospects that UH has a realistic shot of getting:

1. Jerry Moore -- Current Appalachian State head coach, Baylor alumnus; He's a native of native of Bonham, Texas and started his coaching career at the high school level in Texas. It would be a tad bit splashy while maintaining Texas connections.

2. Gus Malzahn -- Current Co-Offensive Coordinator at Tulsa; Demonstrated success on the high school level in Arkansas and at the college level at Arkansas. Well known for the whole Mitch Mustain debacle at Arkansas.

3. Charlie Stubbs -- Current Offensive Coordinator at Louisville, formerly same position at Tulsa.

3. Jeff Brohm -- Current QB Coach at Louisville and older brother of current Louisville QB Brian Brohm

Anyway, I thought those might be some of the splashier selections -- nothing spectacular, but something tells me Maggard isn't going to run out and get Franchione or Lloyd Carr.

Thoughts?

bottlerocket

12-03-2007, 09:40 PM

Refman

12-03-2007, 09:58 PM

Wow, I'm losing respect for Briles each day.

1) First he bails for Baylor (of all places) just before a Bowl game.

2) Takes two of our offensive coordinators (again just before a bowl game).

3) The lastest he is stealing our recruits

I hope he is happy as a Branch Davidian.
He is taking his staff with him, and players he recruited want to follow the coach to whom they committed to his new job.

Shocking and scandalous.

Lonestar28

12-03-2007, 10:10 PM

wow, call the President!

Briles is taking coaches he is comfortable with and recruits are following him to Waco!

In other news, the sky is blue.

Cannonball

12-03-2007, 10:31 PM

wow, call the President!

Briles is taking coaches he is comfortable with and recruits are following him to Waco!

In other news, the sky is blue.

But seriously, before UH's bowl game? That's a sh!tty thing to do right there. He could have easily taken them after the game but no, he has to leave UH even more shorthanded.

Cannonball

12-03-2007, 10:34 PM

Furthermore, UH is probably going to get creamed in the Texas Bowl now. The three guys who are most familier with Briles' "no playbook offense" are gone. Again, coaches Clements and Montgomery could have left after the bowl game but they left UH high and dry. If they want to leave, fine. Just don't throw they team you've been coaching the past few years under the bus in the process.

Uprising

12-03-2007, 11:13 PM

why? cuz we have a way better school than U of H ?

No...because you don't deserve to be in the big12. ;)

yaopao

12-04-2007, 11:10 AM

But seriously, before UH's bowl game? That's a sh!tty thing to do right there. He could have easily taken them after the game but no, he has to leave UH even more shorthanded.

If anything, it's a good thing for UH if there is an asst. coach who they want to hire as it gives them a month of practice and a bowl game to serve as a litmus test.

What benefit does UH have with a lame duck coach for what is a useless bowl game?

Briles would be too focused on recruiting for Baylor to make it worthwhile for UH. This isn't fair to both UH and Baylor, yet he's a bad guy for not doing this?

Cannonball

12-04-2007, 11:33 AM

If anything, it's a good thing for UH if there is an asst. coach who they want to hire as it gives them a month of practice and a bowl game to serve as a litmus test.

What benefit does UH have with a lame duck coach for what is a useless bowl game?

Briles would be too focused on recruiting for Baylor to make it worthwhile for UH. This isn't fair to both UH and Baylor, yet he's a bad guy for not doing this?

1)UH is not going to pull a Cecil Cooper and hire Thurmond as coach. Thurmond coaches cornerbacks and UH isn't exactly known for their defense. The 3 guys who know what's going on with Briles' unconventional offense are gone and so is (probably) UH's explosive offense.

2)I'm fine with Briles leaving after he accepted the Baylor offer. But there was no need for the other 2 offensive coordinators to bolt before the bowl game.

3)What's in it for UH? A bowl win. It's been how long since UH won a bowl game? But yeah, that doesn't matter to recruits AT ALL!

Hippieloser

12-04-2007, 01:42 PM

JunkyardDwg

12-04-2007, 02:10 PM

Then the question is why couldn't an agreement be put into place to hire them as soon as the bowl game concludes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

Astro101

12-04-2007, 02:11 PM

No...because you don't deserve to be in the big12. ;)

The Big 12 is more than just football (At least to some people).

We just got an equestrian team!

rhester

12-04-2007, 02:12 PM

Clement and Montgomery wanted to stay and coach the Texas Bowl, but they've already been hired by Baylor. Dave Maggard decided that these guys shouldn't be getting paid by two schools at the same time so he went ahead and told them not to bother. They didn't exactly leave the players high and dry but why allow them in a bowl game when they're on Baylor's dime.

I think they wanted to stay on UH's dime until after the bowl game. Maddard let them go because basically they were going to be recruiting for Baylor and have UH pay for it.

sammy

12-04-2007, 08:02 PM

No...because you don't deserve to be in the big12. ;)

Really ?

Our baseball team has been solid for years. The womens basketball team won a championship recently.

Our tennis team won a championship also not too long ago.

Our mens basketball team is 6-1 and lost to the sixth ranked team at the time by only 3 pts (up by 10 at halftime)

Jeremy Warner won 2 gold metals for the US while I was there. He was the anchor for the relay team that won gold and another Baylor student ran the third leg.

We are terrible at football but not everything. The facilities are really nice and the campus has had a major overhaul.

sammy

12-04-2007, 08:11 PM

metals

woops...medals *

Refman

12-04-2007, 08:33 PM

But seriously, before UH's bowl game? That's a sh!tty thing to do right there. He could have easily taken them after the game but no, he has to leave UH even more shorthanded.
Right. :rolleyes:

You wait until after the bowl, and Briles will not be able to recruit for his new team. You can't just tell recruits that they don't have a coordinator. You can't tell them who the coordinators are going to be until the transfer is done, because that would be tampering.

I like UH as well as the next guy (my dad went to college there and I went to law school there)...but damn...this is just nuts.

solid

12-04-2007, 08:56 PM

terrible at football but not everything.

:eek: Didn't UH win the conference last year, and 8-4 is not too shabby this season.

yaopao

12-04-2007, 09:44 PM

3)What's in it for UH? A bowl win. It's been how long since UH won a bowl game? But yeah, that doesn't matter to recruits AT ALL!

Seeing how there's like 40 bowl games now, winning a bowl game really doesn't mean much, especially when it's the Texas Bowl. A BCS bowl, yes...

yaopao

12-04-2007, 09:45 PM

Then the question is why couldn't an agreement be put into place to hire them as soon as the bowl game concludes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

Because Briles would be doing 70% of his work for Baylor instead of UH while being contracted with UH. It doesn't make sense for both parties for him to lame duck it.

bottlerocket

12-04-2007, 09:53 PM

Really ?

Our baseball team has been solid for years. The womens basketball team won a championship recently.

Our tennis team won a championship also not too long ago.

Our mens basketball team is 6-1 and lost to the sixth ranked team at the time by only 3 pts (up by 10 at halftime)

Jeremy Warner won 2 gold metals for the US while I was there. He was the anchor for the relay team that won gold and another Baylor student ran the third leg.

We are terrible at football but not everything. The facilities are really nice and the campus has had a major overhaul.

Yes, please brag about about killer basketball program.

JunkyardDwg

12-04-2007, 09:56 PM

Because Briles would be doing 70% of his work for Baylor instead of UH while being contracted with UH. It doesn't make sense for both parties for him to lame duck it.

Well it doesn't make much sense to his former players and the fans to leave the team high and dry right before a bowl.

Jake_B

12-04-2007, 11:04 PM

JunkyardDwg

12-05-2007, 08:56 AM

Why would Art Briles leave Cougar High for Baylor?

Hmmmmmmm

Win Conference USA & Play in the AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Or
Win the Big 12 & Play in BCS Bowl

No Brainer

Hoss Brock, Cotton Bowl Chairman, described U of H best when he said that "half of the U of H fans will eat at a 7-Eleven and the other half will rob one".

Pretty disrespectful post man. First off, I absolutely hate people using the "Cougar High" moniker. People who use that term don't know s*** about the University of Houston...because it is a damn fine institution. It just happens to be a commuter school which is why it doesn't get the fan support or the coummunity spirit the small town universities enjoy.

Plus, UH does actually have a shot at playing in a BCS bowl if they make it into the top 16 or top 10 in the BCS ranking (see Hawaii, Boise State). As for Baylor, they got an insanely tough road to even think about winning the Big 12, let alone playing in a BCS game.

And lastly, I know the quote isn't yours but you used anyways...I'm a UH fan and alum and I neither eat at 7-eleven or rob one...so take that ignorant bs elsewhere.

yaopao

12-05-2007, 09:45 AM

And lastly, I know the quote isn't yours but you used anyways...I'm a UH fan and alum and I neither eat at 7-eleven or rob one...so take that ignorant bs elsewhere.

Tell your UH brethren to refrain from making posts about basketball players killing each other...

yaopao

12-05-2007, 09:46 AM

Yes, please brag about about killer basketball program.

You might have a point if anyone on that team, coaches, Ath Director, hell even the President of the school who were there in 2003 were still around.

Briles has a better chance of getting shot walking around the UH campus than he does a current Baylor basketball player killing him.

JunkyardDwg

12-05-2007, 09:57 AM

Tell your UH brethren to refrain from making posts about basketball players killing each other...

I can't speak for others and I'm not going to...but I can tell you that I wouldn't take pot shots at a school because of one incident. And I would expect other's to show the same respect toward mine. I'm so sick of hearing "cougar high" from people who never attended the university and know nothing about the quality of education you can receive there.

I understand Briles leaving, in part. But I just don't understand a coach who leaves his program and his players high and dry before the season is over, when the team has something to play for...it's not even a knock solely against him but the state of coaching in general...foregoing the coach-player relationship for a shot at money and glory....is that what is become these days? Guess so.

And leaving for Baylor at that...which is more of a lateral move than anything else...cause even if he brings the program to respectability, he'll still have a tough shot at winning the Big 12 and going to a BCS.

Jake_B

12-05-2007, 10:32 PM

As for Baylor, they got an insanely tough road to even think about winning the Big 12, let alone playing in a BCS game.

And lastly, I know the quote isn't yours but you used anyways...I'm a UH fan and alum and I neither eat at 7-eleven or rob one...so take that ignorant bs elsewhere.
It won't be that tough if Baylor & Briles can continue to take Cougar High eeerrr The University of Houston's best recruits (see Robert Griffin)!

JYD, I will agree with you about a coach leaving his team before his team has played their bowl, but unfortantely it happens all the time in the NCAA. In fact I wouldn't be surprized if Briles leaves Baylor for a better program if he is able to win at Baylor. I’m sure if U of H had the opportunity to hire a quality D-1 coach from a bowl bound team, Dave Maggard wouldn’t hesitate to hire him before the bowl game.

As far as going to Baylor being lateral move, PLEASE! I admit Baylor has been a horriable football program since Grant Teaff retired. That being said Baylor is in a BCS conference and that alone makes the head coaching job desirable. If the Baylor/U of H coaching jobs were equivalent, U of H wouldn't have to beg 71 year old Jack Pardee to come out of retirement. Did Bill Yeoman turn the job down?

Finally, the "Cougar High" & 7-11 quote. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

bottlerocket

12-05-2007, 11:44 PM

JunkyardDwg

12-06-2007, 08:50 AM

JYD, I will agree with you about a coach leaving his team before his team has played their bowl, but unfortantely it happens all the time in the NCAA. In fact I wouldn't be surprized if Briles leaves Baylor for a better program if he is able to win at Baylor. I’m sure if U of H had the opportunity to hire a quality D-1 coach from a bowl bound team, Dave Maggard wouldn’t hesitate to hire him before the bowl game.

As far as going to Baylor being lateral move, PLEASE! I admit Baylor has been a horriable football program since Grant Teaff retired. That being said Baylor is in a BCS conference and that alone makes the head coaching job desirable. If the Baylor/U of H coaching jobs were equivalent, U of H wouldn't have to beg 71 year old Jack Pardee to come out of retirement. Did Bill Yeoman turn the job down?

Finally, the "Cougar High" & 7-11 quote. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

See I can understand why Briles would want to leave when notions of glory and money come calling. And that's something that's perhaps wrong w/ college football these days...coaches just forgetting about the player relationships they develop.

Baylor may be in a Big 12 conference, but I do see it as a lateral move because of the quality of competition they are facing. Briles can get them back to respectability, but they still could be on the outside looking in at a BCS bowl....that's not any better than UH. In fact UH, given the competition they face in Conference USA would have a slightly better chance perhaps of doing what Hawaii has done this year and reaching a BCS bowl than I think Baylor would have of running the table in the Big 12. But you never know...

UH is hardly begging Pardee to come out of retirement as the guy seems pretty stoked at the possibility of taking over the job...and it's not like UH is looking soley at him.

As for the Cougar High nonsense...I hate, hate, hate that crap...like it pisses me off when people use it :mad: ...but not hate it like it hurts my feelings or anything :p