[Preseason] Bears @ Texans

[gunn]

Gametime:

Saturday - August 11, 2007

Kickoff - 7 pm

What are you looking forward to seeing? QB play? A win? Mario?

[The Pharmacist]

Is this going to be on local tv?

[gunn]

Is this going to be on local tv?

Yes, I believe channel 13.

[pgabriel]

its on now. can't wait for the season to get cranked up. I really want to see what schaub can do. usually the first pre season game the 1st gets one or two series, and then get extensive time in games two and three. going to be an interesting season.

[dskillz]

I want to see Schaub, Green and Walter against a team with a hell of a defense. I know it will only be a few series for the starters, but it will be good to see.

[ima_drummer2k]

I want to see Schaub give us some hope. Even if it's just one play, do something that shows us a glimpse of what you can do that Carr couldn't.

I want to see some of the players that (if you listen to people who were at training camp) supposedly improved over last year. Mario, Mathis, Faggins, etc.

I want to see why Kubiak is so high on Kevin Walter. Honestly, I don't remember anything about him.

Of course I want to see our rookies.

[JamesC]

I hope Mario has more than 2 tackles like he did last year. He'll probably only play the first and second series though.

[updawg]

Looking forward to it and it looks like it will be on in Austin

[SwoLy-D]

I want to see Schaub give us some hope. Even if it's just one play, do something that shows us a glimpse of what you can do that Carr couldn't.

I want to see some of the players that (if you listen to people who were at training camp) supposedly improved over last year. Mario, Mathis, Faggins, etc.

I want to see why Kubiak is so high on Kevin Walter. Honestly, I don't remember anything about him.

Of course I want to see our rookies.I beg to differ about Schaub. Is this the same offensive line and OL coach? YES. He will break the SACKS record Carr has now, and I will say it with a bittersweet taste on my tongue.

On the Kevin Walter comment: Owen Daniels is the man. :o

[conquistador#11]

I'm looking foward to seeing the great american,mckinney, playing guard. Seriously, i want to see if this line has improved.

[gucci888]

I'm looking foward to seeing the great american,mckinney, playing guard. Seriously, i want to see if this line has improved.

Pitts pulled his back at practice on Monday and will probably miss significant time, that's a huge setback for an already questionable line.

But BRING ON FOOTBALL!!

[rezdawg]

Prediction time...

WWW

[dntrwl]

Time to see if I should buy that Schaub nameplate to paste over my old Carr jersey. Also time to see if someone else took Domanick Davis' jersey cause I still have his from his rookie year.

[weslinder]

Dear Mr. Grossman and Mr. Benson,

I'm Sorry.

http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/Williams.jpg http://media.scout.com/media/image/35/356614.jpg

Not really.

[Kerfeld]

I am really excited to see Ahman Green. I also want to check out Okoye. I have never been this pumped for Texans season. I guess that is what happens when your baseball team has been out of it since all star break.

[Groogrux]

Pitts pulled his back at practice on Monday and will probably miss significant time, that's a huge setback for an already questionable line.

But BRING ON FOOTBALL!!

He may miss significant time, but he'll be ready for the regular season. Not that big a deal.

[htownhustla]

I am really excited to see Ahman Green. I also want to check out Okoye. I have never been this pumped for Texans season. I guess that is what happens when your baseball team has been out of it since all star break.

Man, i agree. I have been waiting for this day to come. Preseason took so long to get here

[gucci888]

He may miss significant time, but he'll be ready for the regular season. Not that big a deal.

Didn't hear that he won't miss any regular season, that's definitely good news.

[HillBoy]

I'm expecting an ugly, sloppy game. New QB, old RB who they won't play much, banged up OL , big question marks on defense - it all points to a less than perfect evening. Since it won't be televised up here in JerryLand, I'll catch the highlights on the NFL Network.

[leroy420]

Looking foward to it. Since the CBS station here in Austin is "All VY all the time" I'm glad they're still showing us the preseason games. You know, because they're "Austin's home for the Texans." :rolleyes:

[dream34shake]

I wanna see: Schaub back to pass, the rush is coming, pressure in his face, he buys some time and WOW! he finds an open receiver instead of getting sacked. Ok so I have some high expectations, but PLEASE after 5 years of watching sacks yet open receivers over and over.

[oomp]

I was going, then I couldn't. And now it's back on with better tickets! Can't wait.

[texanskan]

Sec 115 row H

Texans vs Bears, Texans 73 Bears 0

Mini Texans vs Bears, Mini Texans 48 Bears 3 mini texans give up a field goal

Kubs vs Bears Kubs 27 Bears 7 Kubs gets chopped blocked during a return and Hester is able to score.

my .02

[Moe]

NFL Network is showing the game Sat. at 10:00 p.m. Mountain Standard Time, according to directv guide. Got my tivo set.

[ima_drummer2k]

I wanna see: Schaub back to pass, the rush is coming, pressure in his face, he buys some time and WOW! he finds an open receiver instead of getting sacked. Ok so I have some high expectations, but PLEASE after 5 years of watching sacks yet open receivers over and over.
I want to see Schaub not throw into quadruple coverage, like our old QB.

[conquistador#11]

I am really excited to see Ahman Green. I also want to check out Okoye. I have never been this pumped for Texans season. I guess that is what happens when your baseball team has been out of it since all star break.

i wish Ahman was given a lance armstrong jersey and a bike to ride during the next four games. we know what talent and lift he will give this team. I just don't want to see him get hurt.

[HillBoy]

NFL Network is showing the game Sat. at 10:00 p.m. Mountain Standard Time, according to directv guide. Got my tivo set.
Cool beans!

[gucci888]

i wish Ahman was given a lance armstrong jersey and a bike to ride during the next four games. we know what talent and lift he will give this team. I just don't want to see him get hurt.

Kubiak has already said that Ahman will play very little this preseason, almost all the carries will be split between Lundy and Gado.

[MadMax]

I want to see Schaub not throw into quadruple coverage, like our old QB.

aww...that was fun. (and by fun, i mean absolutely inexplicable and maddening)

[solid]

Sackarama VI coming to a stadium near you. Until the Texans WAKE UP out of their stupor and FIX the OFFENSIVE LINE, Johnny U couldn't stay vertical back there.

[Blatz]

http://www.myp2p.eu/NFL.htm

For those interested you will be able to watch it online.

Download Sopcast and find the game in the link above and hit play.

http://www.sopcast.com/

[blackistan]

Im going to be there for my first texans game I hope the starters play for a long while because I dont want to see the scrubs play too much

[DieHard Rocket]

Im going to be there for my first texans game I hope the starters play for a long while because I dont want to see the scrubs play too much

You'll be lucky to see more than one series from a lot of the starters, especially veteran guys like Ahman Green, Andre, and Dunta. Might see Schaub for a little longer.

I'm anxious to see how some of the young guys do though, now that Kubiak and Smith had full control of the draft for the first time together. I think every one of our draft picks could be solid contributors by the end of the year...definitely ready to see Fred Bennett, Jacoby Jones, and Brandon Harrison try to prove themselves.

[macalu]

expect all the texans haters to go into a frenzy if the Texans don't score on their first preseason possession.

[MR. MEOWGI]

Go HOUSTON.

[KingCheetah]

Yeah this should be good -- i'm looking forward to seeing how Schaub, Mario, and Green do (who isn't), but i'm also curious to see C. Benson as the starter.

:cool:

[DonnyMost]

im pumped

[right1]

Tickets are full price for pre-season games? $35 is the cheapest to pay to get in the stadium?

[ROXRAN]

I am excited about the game...I want to see the lines perform, how Shaub does...

[leroy420]

Tickets are full price for pre-season games? $35 is the cheapest to pay to get in the stadium?

Yep...

I'm in the camp of shortening the preseason to 2 oe 3 games. But I heard the reason why today from John Clayton. Basically, the players are not oficially in their contract until the regular season starts. They only get paid about $1000 per preseason game. Therefore, imagine the windfall the owners bring in for these games. They still sell out, but aren't paying out millions in game checks. These are the most profitable games by far for the owners. Hence, the preseason will never be shortened.

[JayZ750]

I'm in the camp of shortening the preseason to 2 oe 3 games. But I heard the reason why today from John Clayton. Basically, the players are not oficially in their contract until the regular season starts. They only get paid about $1000 per preseason game. Therefore, imagine the windfall the owners bring in for these games. They still sell out, but aren't paying out millions in game checks. These are the most profitable games by far for the owners. Hence, the preseason will never be shortened.

I understand the argument, but logically, if the players are getting paid X per season, then it doesn't matter what their pre-season take is, really (understanding even that those preseason games aren't technically in their contract so they are getting paid a little more). If they split up their salary over 20 games instead of 16, same difference in total. Though again, I understand the point that the more games you have, the more potential for revenue generation.

[Kam]

okay, game has started.



defense trotted out, and held them to a missed field goal.



its time for matt schaub.

[BenignDMD]

nice 1 yard on our first carry

[Nick]

The offensive line still scares me.

[Kam]

cut kevin walters now.


atleast schaub got rid of the ball.

anyone just hear spencer?

God damn i love spencer tillman.

if this was last years number 8, it would have been scary or something like that.

[The Pharmacist]

Good throw under pressure by Schaub, but dropped by Walters haha.

[Dr.Strangelove]

Matt showed quite a bit on that play.

[DonnyMost]

ahman green might as well be our left guard on half the plays

[Kam]

Andre Johnson has hall of fame talent, but he will never get into Canton, which sucks.


He is my favorite Texan of all time.

[RocketsMVP]

Nice 2nd drive by Schaub. He looked pretty smooth.

[Kam]

well, the secondary looks good.


but... the qb of the visitors suck.

sage is in.

[RocketsMVP]

well, the secondary looks good.

I agree. The secondary looks active but I am a little disappointed with the pass rush.

[DonnyMost]

I agree. The secondary looks active but I am a little disappointed with the pass rush.


i am too, but then i realized that the bears have a top 3 offensive line.. so im cuttin em some slack

[BMoney]

Despite being stopped on that third and goal, I think Dayne has looked good and should form a nice 1-2 punch with Green.

[CometsWin]

Williams and Okoye got dominated. Scary!

[geeimsobored]

ugh.. our defense is just getting pushed around.

[BMoney]

Charmin soft.

[seclusion]

ugh.. our defense is just getting pushed around.

did you watch the same game I did? cus the entire time our starters were out there we rocked them.

pass rush was a bit unimpressive -- but the bears have a good line. I don't see how our defense was getting pushed around.

[The Ming Dynasty]

Go Da Bears![COLOR=DarkOrange][SIZE=7][FONT=Arial]

[BMoney]

Awesome return!

[geeimsobored]

did you watch the same game I did? cus the entire time our starters were out there we rocked them.

pass rush was a bit unimpressive -- but the bears have a good line. I don't see how our defense was getting pushed around.

I missed the first series, i just watched that series where the bears just walked down the field into the end zone. Obviously not starters but it looked bad.

But if the starters did well, then good

[Dr.Strangelove]

Jones looks like he's gonna be a player.

[BMoney]

Jacoby Jones is showing something tonight.

[macalu]

is it me or does the field still look like total crap?

[dntrwl]

is it me or does the field still look like total crap?
the Geico virtual ad is retarded...just wait in a few years the football fields are gonna look like nascars.

[Nick]

is it me or does the field still look like total crap?

The over/under on when field-turf is installed at Reliant is now less than 2 years.

[Bobblehead]

Why isn't Chris Taylor playing?

[BmwM3]

Van Pelt = David Carr

[RocketFan007]

Why isn't Chris Taylor playing?

He's done for the year, he messed up his knee early in training camp.

[leroy420]

The over/under on when field-turf is installed at Reliant is now less than 2 years.

I'm voting and hoping for under.


Of course, I work for a synthetic turf manufacuter here in Austin.

[Nick]

I'm voting and hoping for under.


Of course, I work for a synthetic turf manufacuter here in Austin.

It makes sense... with the technology today, field-turf is proving more and more durable/safer than Astroturf ever was.

With Reliant's structure set-up, it hardly gets consistent sun during the season... and the whole "tray" idea clearly isn't working. If they had the technology that Arizona has, where the entire field gets transported out (so the grass can take root completely as one field... and not individual sections), it would probably survive.

I also remember the field looks like utter crap just by October.

[mrdave543]

HAHA texans lose in last minute...get used to it texans fans...gonna be a long season!!!

(titans lost in last minute too)

[Cannonball]

Wow! Our scrubs got outscored by the Bears' scrubs by 13 points in the 4th quarter. THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!




By the way. Van Pelt sucks major ass.

[seclusion]

HAHA texans lose in last minute...get used to it texans fans...gonna be a long season!!!

(titans lost in last minute too)

...starters played, maybe the full first quarter. when will you learn that more than any other sport, pre-season means...NOTHING.

I was happy with what I saw, personally.

[geeimsobored]

Wow, the Associated Press hates us...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap;_ylt=Aln1h1A.nS4h04QRlhIlAk3dzYd4?gid=20070811034

Chicago 20, Houston 19
Preview - Box Score - Recap

By KRISTIE RIEKEN, AP Sports Writer
August 11, 2007

Houston Texans quarterback Sage Rosenfels throws the ball away as he is hit by Chicago Bears' Copeland Bryan and Israel Idonije (71) during the second quarter of an NFL football game Saturday, Aug. 11, 2007, in Houston.
AP - Aug 11, 10:52 pm EDT
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HOUSTON (AP) -- Matt Schaub's first pass for the Houston Texans was for 2 yards. His second one was dropped.

This revamped Texans offense sure looks a lot like the old one.

Schaub, who replaced David Carr after backing up Michael Vick for three years in Atlanta, had an inauspicious debut going 3-for-5 for 25 yards. But the defending NFC champion Chicago Bears scored 13 fourth quarter points, including a 47-yard go-ahead field goal by Robbie Gould with 2:23 remaining to beat the Texans 20-19 in the exhibition opener for both teams Saturday night.

The Texans got Schaub in a trade with the Falcons in March and released Carr, the No. 1 pick in 2002, after he failed to lead Houston to a winning record in five seasons.

That first drive, which also featured a 1-yard run by new Texan Ahman Green, ended in a punt. On his second and last series, Schaub looked a bit better, finding Andre Johnson for a 15-yard gain and Owen Daniels up the middle for 8 yards.

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The Texans had to settle for a field goal that put them ahead 3-0 after Schaub overthrew a wide-open Kevin Walter in the end zone on third-and-4.

And this was against a Bears defense missing both Pro Bowl linebacker Brian Urlacher and star defensive tackle Tommie Harris, who didn't even suit up.

The 30-year-old Green, who signed with the Texans in March after seven seasons in Green Bay, finished with three carries for 7 yards.

Rex Grossman, hoping for more consistency in his second full season at starter, looked sharp in two series and completed his first eight passes. He found first-round pick Greg Olsen for a 5-yard gain before hitting Muhsin Muhammad for 10 yards on the first drive.

But two penalties in that series stalled the drive and the Bears failed to score after a 52-yard field goal attempt sailed wide left. Grossman was 8-of-10 for 50 yards.

Cedric Benson, in his first season as the featured back, had five carries for 23 yards. It was the first career preseason game for the former University of Texas standout after he sat out as a rookie because of contract negotiations and last year with a shoulder sprain.

Backup Brian Griese's first pass was intercepted by Von Hutchins, who ran it back 20 yards. The Texans added another field goal that made it 6-0 after Ron Dayne was stuffed for a 1-yard loss on from the 1 on third down.

Griese redeemed himself on the next drive, finding Mark Bradley for a 31-yard gain before a short touchdown pass to fullback Obafemi Ayanbadejo put Chicago ahead 7-6 in the second.

The NFL suspended Ayanbadejo for the first four regular-season games without pay for violating the league's policy on anabolic steroids and related substances on Thursday. He denied taking steroids and blamed the test results on an over-the-counter supplement. The suspension begins Sept. 1.

Houston's Jerome Mathis returned a kickoff 78 yards after the Bears' TD. The third year player, who missed 14 games with injuries last season after making the Pro Bowl as a rookie, was finally brought down by Gould.

Three straight incomplete passes by backup Sage Rosenfels brought out Kris Brown for his third field goal, a 42-yarder, to make it 9-7. Brown also had a 29-yard field goal before halftime.

Jeb Putzier caught a 6-yard touchdown pass from Rosenfels in the third quarter to push Houston's lead to 19-7.

Last year's No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams, playing at right end exclusively, didn't have a tackle and rookie tackle Amobi Okoye had just one assist. Okoye, drafted 10th this year, did get in the backfield once and hurried Grossman.

A 3-yard touchdown pass from Kyle Orton to Fontel Mines cut the lead to 19-14 early in the fourth quarter and Gould added a 44-yard field goal with 4:52 to play.

Rookie Jacoby Jones, a third round pick out of Division II Lane College, led the Texans with four receptions for 47 yards and also had a 22-yard punt return.

[BigM]

The AP doesn't understand preseason either. that sure was unnecessarily brutal.

[Cannonball]

But the defending NFC champion Chicago Bears scored 13 fourth quarter points, including a 47-yard go-ahead field goal by Robbie Gould with 2:23 remaining to beat the Texans 20-19 in the exhibition opener for both teams Saturday night.

Yeah, didn't the FG come with 40 seconds left? They can't even get their facts straight.

[WildSweet&Cool]

I saw a problem tonight that I saw several times last season - too many field goals and not enough touchdowns.

I really hope that we don't see that again this year.

[Air Langhi]

Shaub should have been out there longer. I don't think we know if he is better than sage. Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be kelvin Cato.

[Cannonball]

Shaub should have been out there longer. I don't think we know if he is better than sage. Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be kelvin Cato.

Starter ALWAYS only play one quarter in the first preseason unless maybe they're a rookie. It like an unwritten law. Expect him to play more and maybe 3 quarters in the final preseason game.

[BmwM3]

Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be kelvin Cato.

What you do want him to be an awesome shot blocker, rebounder, and dunker???

[conquistador#11]

We've been hit! (glenn earl)
casualty:
http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/2007/08/texans_have_plenty_of_work_to.html

on the brightside, Schaub wasn't a deer, frozen at the sight of headlights, when the blitz ruptured the line.

[Kerfeld]

I forget how boring preseason games are.

[Kam]

Starter ALWAYS only play one quarter in the first preseason unless maybe they're a rookie. It like an unwritten law. Expect him to play more and maybe 3 quarters in the final preseason game.


They barely get a sniff of the field in the fourth preseason game.

They play the most in the 3rd game.





Special teams looks pretty good. Hopefully Mathis can stay on the field, and off a motorcycle.

I'm just glad I saw Matt Schaub throw the ball when the pressure came instead of running out of bounds for a loss, or taking the hit with the ball in his arms.

[vincentt]

They barely get a sniff of the field in the fourth preseason game.

They play the most in the 3rd game.





Special teams looks pretty good. Hopefully Mathis can stay on the field, and off a motorcycle.

I'm just glad I saw Matt Schaub throw the ball when the pressure came instead of running out of bounds for a loss, or taking the hit with the ball in his arms.
I don't know what i saw was a lot of david carr in matt schaub overthrowing a easy touchdown as if right not i prefer david :eek:

[Kam]

david carr would never have gotten the ball off.

[Cannonball]

I don't know what i saw was a lot of david carr in matt schaub overthrowing a easy touchdown as if right not i prefer david :eek:

Walter got bumped off by the corner who subsequently fell down. He wasn't that open when the ball was thrown and the he was slowed by the contact. It's a testament to Walter that he actually caught up to the pass the way he did. If the corner had fallen down prior to the pass, it wouldn't have been overthrown. Trust me.

[MadMax]

I forget how boring preseason games are.

I was telling my son that before the game started. We were both excited, but it's such a tease with very little substance. 2 series of first team offense.

[ROXRAN]

My thoughts...It was preseason to get a little of what you will go with and more to see who can become part of what you will go with...

First off, Van Pelt...wow...I think I could have looked more impressive at QB...He is gone so who cares...

What I care about is the lines, and Shaub, and who else can contribute and make a good impression...

Player I was most impressed with: Jacoby Jones...

Great ability/instincts to get back to the ball...adjust...etc. I think he will be great.

Mario and Ryans seem like they will step up and even though Shaub's stint was short, he showed enough to warrant comfort with him as the leader...

I would have liked better penetration from the D-line, but considering the Bears O-line is well above average, I still viewed the first team as doing fairly good overall from the Texans...

The O-line overall was ok, and again my hope is it will get better, in more games it will be better to ascertain...same as Okoye...

Overall, I could immediately see the Texans defense as making the most strides so early....It should be fun!

[tulexan]

I was happy that we finally saw our starting QB hit AJ in stride. No more of him having to stop, catch the ball behind him, and then try to make a play.

[ima_drummer2k]

I was happy that we finally saw our starting QB hit AJ in stride. No more of him having to stop, catch the ball behind him, and then try to make a play.
I watched the 2006 yearbook of the Texans before the game. I had forgotten how many of AJ's long receptions were just Carr chucking up a hail-mary into double coverage and AJ winning the jump ball...

Some impressions of the game:


Schaub stood tall in the pocket and didn't panic.
Our running game is just 2 yards and a cloud of dust. Of course, the Bears D is pretty good, but still...
Mathis looked great on that kickoff return. Field position is how you win games.
Jacoby Jones seems to have a little Earnest Givens in him.
Offensive and defensive playbooks looked pretty vanilla. Maybe that's why we couldn't pressue the QB or punch the ball in.
Preseason football is REALLY boring. Can't believe they don't reduce ticket prices. :rolleyes:

[updawg]

I know its just the first preseason game but the d-line was very mediocre. With three #1 picks they are going to need to be strong point of the D. The secondary needs them to pressure the QB.

But Ryans is still a badass, he's like a machine out there. Looks like Jefferson from Fast times.

[dream34shake]

I know it's just a preseason game, but I'm scared of what little I saw from mario williams. I mean even amobi okoye played better than him, and it was his first game!!

[Nashvegas]

I went to the game, i was hammered but from what i remember, we looked ok. Schaub wasn't in long enough to really tell anything. No running game, not much of a pass rush, but Grossman wasn't dropping back too long before unloading. Mathis and Jacoby are studs and will be fun to watch. Overall it was about what I expected from game 1. I won't pass judgement until I see more, but I think we'll be ok.

[MadMax]

I know it's just a preseason game, but I'm scared of what little I saw from mario williams. I mean even amobi okoye played better than him, and it was his first game!!

i'm always hesitant to say this because i've been a VY-supporter...and i don't want that to be the reason that it gives this impression.

but as a texan fan...mario williams scares the crap out of me. i have absolutley no idea what to expect from him. and i'd like to have more than that out of a #1 pick. (please don't start a discussion about who else was there to be picked at #1...it's not about that, anymore).

[Shroopy2]

I wanna see: Schaub back to pass, the rush is coming, pressure in his face, he buys some time and WOW! he finds an open receiver instead of getting sacked. Ok so I have some high expectations, but PLEASE after 5 years of watching sacks yet open receivers over and over.

Oh, you mean what Sage Rosenfels and Tony Banks demonstrated before?

[gucci888]

i'm always hesitant to say this because i've been a VY-supporter...and i don't want that to be the reason that it gives this impression.

but as a texan fan...mario williams scares the crap out of me. i have absolutley no idea what to expect from him. and i'd like to have more than that out of a #1 pick. (please don't start a discussion about who else was there to be picked at #1...it's not about that, anymore).

From the Chron:

Quiet night
Former No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams didn't make any noise in his first preseason outing. Williams played at left end on the first two series of the game. He had no tackles and no quarterback hurries.

"I was basically just going out there and running around and trying to get a feel for it and then making adjustments," Williams said. "I probably should have made some adjustments earlier since I was only out there for so long. But it's only preseason."

He's right in thats its only preseason but I really need to see something out of Mario this year. His biggest knock coming out of the draft was his motor, a lot talked about him taking plays off and we just can't have that.

Hopefully he'll have a big year for us, because the team and franchise really need him to have one.

[KAS13]

I'm dissapointed in general from what I see and know about Mario. On the field he has shown glimpses of talent but really nothing exciting. Just like in college there have already been questions about his work ethic as well. If you watch him, he seems to overrun a ton of plays, take plays off,ect... Then he'll make a few plays that make you say "Wow". I'm with many others in being very worried about Williams.

I think Schaub looked good from what we saw. It would have been nice if he had completed that pass to Walter but like another poster pointed out Tillman and Walter got tangled up and it slowed down Walter. Schaub throw on time and that's the pass he was making. He did look good under pressure but I really liked the timing between Johnson and him on the 15 yard reception. The ball was right there when Andre turned around and with Johnson's speed and that accuracy that should make things even easier on Andre. We still need a #2. What was wrong with McCardell?

It's way too early to judge Okoye. he's just 19 and playing in his first NFL game. The fact that he is already starting makes me think highly of him.

Mathis and Jones both looked good. Demeco was himself. All in all I'm only worried about mario

[gucci888]

I'm dissapointed in general from what I see and know about Mario. On the field he has shown glimpses of talent but really nothing exciting. Just like in college there have already been questions about his work ethic as well. If you watch him, he seems to overrun a ton of plays, take plays off,ect... Then he'll make a few plays that make you say "Wow". I'm with many others in being very worried about Williams.

I think Schaub looked good from what we saw. It would have been nice if he had completed that pass to Walter but like another poster pointed out Tillman and Walter got tangled up and it slowed down Walter. Schaub throw on time and that's the pass he was making. He did look good under pressure but I really liked the timing between Johnson and him on the 15 yard reception. The ball was right there when Andre turned around and with Johnson's speed and that accuracy that should make things even easier on Andre. We still need a #2. What was wrong with McCardell?

It's way too early to judge Okoye. he's just 19 and playing in his first NFL game. The fact that he is already starting makes me think highly of him.

Mathis and Jones both looked good. Demeco was himself. All in all I'm only worried about mario

McCardell was hurt and wasn't planning on playing yesterday. Jones looked really good yesterday and hopefully he will continue to improve, I think he'll prove to be more of a #2 receiver than Walter come mid-season.

Couldn't agree more about Mario.

[KAS13]

McCardell was hurt and wasn't planning on playing yesterday. Jones looked really good yesterday and hopefully he will continue to improve, I think he'll prove to be more of a #2 receiver than Walter come mid-season.

Couldn't agree more about Mario.


I hope so. i think McCardell might make a run at that position as well. He's a really good possesion receiver and Shaub showed he does have good timing. he would be a good compliment to Andre. I agree on Jones. His footwork was what impressed me most last night. He also is qa prime example of not having your 40 time mean everything. He has deceptive speed and quicknees along with the great footwork he displayed. I'll have to see more of Walter to make a judgement. I still see Jones and McCardell being better options. It was nice to see options at kick retunrner in case mathis can't hold up. He looks like a good pick.

Yeah, I'm banging my head on the wall with Mario. he just doesn't seem to be an impact player at all. Just looking at recent defenders who had a major impact and the games better defensive players Mario looks nothing lke them. DeMeco on the other hand looks like he's going to be elite

[ima_drummer2k]

Schaub also made a beautiful throw (under pressure) to Kevin Walter for a 3rd down conversion...but Walter dropped it. Not sure why the coaching staff is so high on Walter. They've basically penciled him in as a starter. Why?

Mario worries me too. He better have a hell of a year this year. He's healthy, he's no longer a rookie, it's time for him to step up. I will be watching him with a very critical eye this year...

[MadMax]

Schaub also made a beautiful throw (under pressure) to Kevin Walter for a 3rd down conversion...but Walter dropped it. Not sure why the coaching staff is so high on Walter. They've basically penciled him in as a starter. Why?

Mario worries me too. He better have a hell of a year this year. He's healthy, he's no longer a rookie, it's time for him to step up. I will be watching him with a very critical eye this year...

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[DieHard Rocket]

Everyone is making a big deal about Walter dropping that pass...it was also a very good defensive play. Let's not dismiss him as a possibility to start over a couple of series' and one pass.

I'd be surprised if Jacoby wasn't starting by mid-season though.

[robbie380]

Yeah, I'm banging my head on the wall with Mario. he just doesn't seem to be an impact player at all. Just looking at recent defenders who had a major impact and the games better defensive players Mario looks nothing lke them. DeMeco on the other hand looks like he's going to be elite

yeah it's pretty disappointing. i can't see us ever getting our money's worth for him. all i did when i was at the game was watch okoye and williams and mario was extremely underwhelming. okoye had a good motor and seemed to show some ability to get past his man. mario just looked the same as last year. he just gets stood up by his man everytime. and a big :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: to his "it's only preseason" comment. who knows maybe kubiak sees something better in practice and maybe he will show it in the games at some point in time. but if he doesn't show much i think kubiak will be quick to cut his playing time.

[JeopardE]

I don't know why y'all are in such a hurry to push the panic button on Mario. I just am not worried about him -- I fully expect him to have a breakout season with at least 8 sacks. Honestly I don't see any reason why it won't happen.

[robbie380]

I don't know why y'all are in such a hurry to push the panic button on Mario. I just am not worried about him -- I fully expect him to have a breakout season with at least 8 sacks. Honestly I don't see any reason why it won't happen.

it's not panic. it's reality.

[MadMax]

I don't know why y'all are in such a hurry to push the panic button on Mario. I just am not worried about him -- I fully expect him to have a breakout season with at least 8 sacks. Honestly I don't see any reason why it won't happen.

i don't think anyone here is experiencing panic over mario.

[macalu]

Everyone is making a big deal about Walter dropping that pass...it was also a very good defensive play. Let's not dismiss him as a possibility to start over a couple of series' and one pass.

I'd be surprised if Jacoby wasn't starting by mid-season though.

yea, it was more of Walter just getting stripped than it was dropping the pass.

[gucci888]

I don't know why y'all are in such a hurry to push the panic button on Mario. I just am not worried about him -- I fully expect him to have a breakout season with at least 8 sacks. Honestly I don't see any reason why it won't happen.

I would say we are more "worried" about Mario. You say you don't see any reason why it won't happen, but Mario really hasn't shown why it will. I know its only preaseason and Mario is still young, but IMHO...I have already seen why so many scouts were concerned about his drive/motor. This is a big concern for me considering him being a #1 pick.

[swilkins]

The Texans did pretty good over all, except for Bradlee Van Carr.

I think our defensive line is going to be pretty darn good this year.

[msn]

it's not panic. it's reality.
It's neither. It's the opinion of overhyped Texans fans who are still pissed about the '06 draft.

[texanskan]

The Texans did pretty good over all, except for Bradlee Van Carr.

I think our defensive line is going to be pretty darn good this year.

Rick Smith should of come down on the field and cut Van Pelt right after his only completion (to himself)

[DonkeyMagic]

not much to read into. wasnt horrible...wasnt great.

watching schaub feel the pressure and get that pass to walters (where he was stripped by a good defensive play) i was happy for. Carr would have eaten that and took the sack. definitely a positive sign. Overthrowing the one pass, im not worried about. It stinks but no need to overreact.

I have some concerns about mario, he just seems to take himself out of a lot of plays. That being said, i thought he did rush grossman on one play. regardless, its a big year for him. What bothers me with mario is that he just doesnt blow tackles up or he really doesnt have any moves other than speed. that being said, its a long road.

[msn]

It's should've. Should have.

It's the conditional past perfect tense of a verb. "Kubiak had come" would be the past perfect, "Kubiak should have come" would be the conditional past perfect.

There is no such thing as "should of".

OK, carry on then. :p

[Rocket River]

Rick Smith should of come down on the field and cut Van Pelt right after his only completion (to himself)

That would have been Funny

Rocket River

[Blake]

I think Mario will be fine. He got doubled a decent amount of the time that he was actually playing. Did he look like he was giving 100%? No. But it is just the first preseason game. I think he is going to be an impact player this season. Julius Peppers? No. 8 or 9 sacks? Hopefully.

[Cannonball]

You know, it's not like Chicago with their great defense was sacking us left and right until Bradlee Van Carr stepped on the field.

[AGBee]

I don't know why y'all are in such a hurry to push the panic button on Mario. I just am not worried about him -- I fully expect him to have a breakout season with at least 8 sacks. Honestly I don't see any reason why it won't happen.

What has he shown that makes you expect this?

[right1]

Should of, would of, could of.

[swilkins]

Should of, would of, could of.

Dare I ask what you mean by this?

[Groogrux]

Dare I ask what you mean by this?

It means he has bad grammar.

[msn]

Should of, would of, could of.
So you don't mind ignorance of English language?

should have, would have, could have
should've, would've, could've

I guess I could join the fun: its not like your going to grade my post on it's grammer anyways.