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Castor27
08-06-2007, 06:35 PM
All series talk goes in here. DO NOT GIVE PLAY-BY-PLAY! If you need PBP try Yahoo, ESPN, or Sportsline.
8-6 Rich Hill, LHP (6-6, 3.67) vs. Wandy Rodriguez, LHP (7-10, 4.72) 7:05 on FSN
8-7 Sean Marshall, LHP (5-5, 3.86) vs. Woody Williams, RHP (5-12, 5.37) 7:05 on FSN
8-8 Carlos Zambrano, RHP (14-7, 3.42) vs. Roy Oswalt, RHP (11-6, 3.55) 7:05 on FSN
SwoLy-D
08-06-2007, 06:37 PM
First! WWW.
We'll give Carlos Zambrano a run for his money. :o We'll go down swinging! Errr... ummm... never mind...
CHAD444
08-06-2007, 06:51 PM
carlos v roy wow!!! plus i hate the cubbies!!!!!!!
We always seem to get zambrano, and he always dominates us.
Akhorahil
08-06-2007, 08:23 PM
Come on Astros, win this series. I don't want to see the Cubs in the playoffs. I'm about to start cheering on the Brewers for that same reason.
DOMINATOR
08-06-2007, 09:07 PM
Cy Wandy... to bad he has to pitch on the road. his splits are insane.
JunkyardDwg
08-06-2007, 09:57 PM
That's some optimism from Munson there...'still a long way to go and all we need to do is win 2 out of 3 and we'll be ok.'
No, ya'll need to win like 9 out of 10 the rest of the way for it to be alright.
Kerfeld
08-06-2007, 11:49 PM
Just got back from the game. I cant believe the crowds that still show up. Nice win. I must say, eventhough this season has stunk, the Astros have had some nice walk off wins. I dont think there were many in 2006.
MadMax
08-07-2007, 09:10 AM
Just got back from the game. I cant believe the crowds that still show up. Nice win. I must say, eventhough this season has stunk, the Astros have had some nice walk off wins. I dont think there were many in 2006.
Over 36,000 on a Tuesday night for a team that is floundering.
Again...Minute Maid Park changed everything. A far more stable, healthy franchise now. Not to mention playing competitive baseball for 10 years. 25,000 was a good night at the Dome...that's a bad night at MMP. And it's becoming like that virtually everywhere in the country. At last check, MLB stadiums were averaging 31,000/game. That's amazing.
It's still affordable.
rrj_gamz
08-07-2007, 09:15 AM
WLW...Yeah, a little late but surprised they pulled it out...Not use to that...
Aceshigh7
08-07-2007, 10:16 AM
Facing yet another lefty tonight, which means yet another game with the powerful hitting Mark Loretta (.283 BA, 2HR, .724 OPS) as our first baseman. :mad:
Freaking Scott and Lamb never get the chance to play. Garner is killing us.
Facing yet another lefty tonight, which means yet another game with the powerful hitting Mark Loretta (.283 BA, 2HR, .724 OPS) as our first baseman. :mad:
Freaking Scott and Lamb never get the chance to play. Garner is killing us.
Don't forget Jason Lane in CF. Garner really has me perplexed.
Cannonball
08-07-2007, 07:47 PM
Bruntlett is retarded. He essentially got picked off twice on the same play. I he had somehow made it to 3rd, he probably would have tried to go home too.
Cannonball
08-07-2007, 07:49 PM
Facing yet another lefty tonight, which means yet another game with the powerful hitting Mark Loretta (.283 BA, 2HR, .724 OPS) as our first baseman. :mad:
Freaking Scott and Lamb never get the chance to play. Garner is killing us.
Gar lives and dies (mostly dies) by the Lefty-Righty matchup. It doesn't matter that Lamb and Scott have hit Lefties better this season than the Righties he replaces them with.
Akhorahil
08-07-2007, 08:44 PM
Don't forget Jason Lane in CF. Garner really has me perplexed.
What is so perplexing about Lane in CF. So far on the roster he's the most suited to play CF of all the other players.
Who would you want in CF instead?
You may like Burke in the lineup better than Lane. But Burke can't read the ball nearly as well as Lane, nor does he have the arm. Same with Bruntlett. So far this season when they were in CF, teams took advantage of that.
Akhorahil
08-07-2007, 08:46 PM
Gar lives and dies (mostly dies) by the Lefty-Righty matchup. It doesn't matter that Lamb and Scott have hit Lefties better this season than the Righties he replaces them with.
Now that's something that perplexes me. hehehe
I understand the rational behind the lefty/righty matchup... I don't fault him for going with that. But sometimes you just gotta take your shots and go against the grain. Especially when someone is hot.
Kerfeld
08-07-2007, 09:12 PM
I still dont know why Burke and Scott are not playing every nite. I want to see the bullpen pitch well again tonite.
DOMINATOR
08-07-2007, 09:39 PM
lol @ Theriot (i think) that swung at the lidge slider that bounced in front of the plate.
solid
08-07-2007, 11:35 PM
Where is Pence? Is he injured?
TMac640
08-07-2007, 11:49 PM
Where is Pence? Is he injured?
yep. broken wrist. out until almost september.
Xenon
08-07-2007, 11:51 PM
Astros 9.5 back in the Central. What a joke of a division.
rocket_red
08-08-2007, 12:38 AM
I'll be at today's game, Zambrano and Oswalt, what a matchup!!! Too bad Zambrano owns us. Hopefully we can finally get the best of him. But I really don't see it happening.
Akhorahil
08-08-2007, 02:34 AM
Over 36,000 on a Tuesday night for a team that is floundering.
Again...Minute Maid Park changed everything. A far more stable, healthy franchise now. Not to mention playing competitive baseball for 10 years. 25,000 was a good night at the Dome...that's a bad night at MMP. And it's becoming like that virtually everywhere in the country. At last check, MLB stadiums were averaging 31,000/game. That's amazing.
It's still affordable.
Just think what it would be like if they could get people to show up at Marlins games.
Just think what it would be like if they could get people to show up at Marlins games.
Why would people want to sit in a football stadium, in the middle of the suburbs of miami, in 90-100 degree heat, 90-100% humidity, to watch a team that doesn't keep star players due to its financial situation secondary to not having a new stadium?
Miami and Arlington both need retractable roof stadiums in the worst way... that roof could speak wonders for their attendance.
MadMax
08-08-2007, 07:10 AM
Miami and Arlington both need retractable roof stadiums in the worst way... that roof could speak wonders for their attendance.
you're right. in miami's tropical climate it's not just the heat...it's the everyday uncertainty of driving to a park where a game may or may not be played due to rain.
in arlington, it's the heat....wow.
Major
08-08-2007, 08:18 AM
Astros 9.5 back in the Central. What a joke of a division.
How is it a joke of a division? Milwaukee is 3 games out of the best record in the NL. Chicago is 2 games back in the wild card race. The bottom of the division sucks, but at the top, it's not like the division is substantially worse than any other.
Cannonball
08-08-2007, 09:07 AM
How is it a joke of a division? Milwaukee is 3 games out of the best record in the NL. Chicago is 2 games back in the wild card race. The bottom of the division sucks, but at the top, it's not like the division is substantially worse than any other.
Why is it a joke? Hyperbole, that's why.
How is it a joke of a division? Milwaukee is 3 games out of the best record in the NL. Chicago is 2 games back in the wild card race. The bottom of the division sucks, but at the top, it's not like the division is substantially worse than any other.
The league was up for grabs at the start of the season... not just the division.
MadMax
08-08-2007, 03:39 PM
wow, this forum will be crowded after the weekend when we've swept the cubs, swept the brewers and find ourselves 5.5 out of first place :)
The Cat
08-08-2007, 03:42 PM
Those two games in Florida on Saturday and Sunday might end up being crucial... really, they had no business losing either one.
bobrek
08-08-2007, 03:55 PM
Those two games in Florida on Saturday and Sunday might end up being crucial... really, they had no business losing either one.
Had they won one or both of those, they may have lost one or both of the Cubs games - we'll never know. Changing the past may affect the future.
MadMax
08-08-2007, 04:00 PM
By the way...we're about to be 9 games out.
Colorado is beating the crap out of the Brew Crew, 16-3 in the 5th.
Xenon
08-08-2007, 04:07 PM
Astros are about to be 9 games out in the Central. What a joke of a division.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rpi
JaWindex
08-08-2007, 04:19 PM
wow, this forum will be crowded after the weekend when we've swept the cubs, swept the brewers and find ourselves 5.5 out of first place :)
I thought you already gave up on the season.
If that scenario does come to be, I'll eat my hat.
MadMax
08-08-2007, 04:21 PM
I thought you already gave up on the season.
If that scenario does come to be, I'll eat my hat.
i never give up!!!! :) i said it's likely over...it's improbable. it still is. but the astros are my favorite pro sports franchise. i never stop caring/watching/rooting.
RocketManJosh
08-08-2007, 04:29 PM
wow, this forum will be crowded after the weekend when we've swept the cubs, swept the brewers and find ourselves 5.5 out of first place :)
hahaha ... if that happens I will just be utterly shocked and amazed that we could get within that close. It would be awesome. Damn Max, why did you get my hopes up at all when I had all but convinced myself it was over.
I've got tix to all three games next weekend against the Padres, and I would love it if I could convince myself that the games meant anything at all.
Lets just see if we can get a win over Zambrano tonight .. that has been hard enough for the Astros of late, let alone sweeping the Brew Crew.
Surfguy
08-08-2007, 04:49 PM
Time to beat the crap out of Zambrano. I want his freaking head on a platter!
What is so perplexing about Lane in CF. So far on the roster he's the most suited to play CF of all the other players.
Who would you want in CF instead?
I agree that Lane, for now, *is* the best defensive option at CF. I just wish he wasn't even on the roster.
The guy had no business on this roster *last* year. This year is done for, why is valuable PT being given to guys who have proven to have *no* consistency on this level?
Crocketball Fan
08-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Jason Lane is so bad- he's like a car you keep repairing. Spent too much time on it-can't give up now! He's cheap, yes, but I guarantee that if he was black he wouldn't be on the Astros right now. Remember how we released a "disappointing" Preston Wilson (and still got to pay his contract) to StL last season. He was batting better than Lane and had a good playoff series with the Cards. Purpura is not the man for the long term. - C.F.
JaWindex
08-08-2007, 05:31 PM
Jason Lane is so bad- he's like a car you keep repairing. Spent too much time on it-can't give up now! He's cheap, yes, but I guarantee that if he was black he wouldn't be on the Astros right now. Remember how we released a "disappointing" Preston Wilson (and still got to pay his contract) to StL last season. He was batting better than Lane and had a good playoff series with the Cards. Purpura is not the man for the long term. - C.F.
You have to keep in mind that, had we kept Preston, he would have received a sizable pay raise in his 2nd year. But who keeps track of those little details...
The Cat
08-08-2007, 05:35 PM
Jason Lane is so bad- he's like a car you keep repairing. Spent too much time on it-can't give up now! He's cheap, yes, but I guarantee that if he was black he wouldn't be on the Astros right now. Remember how we released a "disappointing" Preston Wilson (and still got to pay his contract) to StL last season. He was batting better than Lane and had a good playoff series with the Cards. Purpura is not the man for the long term. - C.F.
If Wilson could play CF, played for a cheaper contract and was more willing to take a part-time role (all are true with Lane), he'd still be here.
By the way, Wilson hit .200 with a .539 OPS in the playoffs with St. Louis. Those numbers make even Jason Lane look quality in comparison.
Major
08-08-2007, 05:44 PM
By the way, Wilson hit .200 with a .539 OPS in the playoffs with St. Louis. Those numbers make even Jason Lane look quality in comparison.
Sadly, they don't. :( Lane has a 0.168 BA and 0.581 OPS this season.
The Cat
08-08-2007, 05:45 PM
Sadly, they don't. :( Lane has a 0.168 BA and 0.581 OPS this season.
I know, that was my point... even with Lane's incredibly poor season thus far, his OPS still beats Wilson's playoff OPS a season ago. :D
(Yeah, I know judging anyone by playoff performance is pointless, but someone else brought it up.)
Kerfeld
08-08-2007, 07:20 PM
Well that started out great. I have a bad feeling Zambrano is going to own us again.
JaWindex
08-08-2007, 07:20 PM
Well that started out great. I have a bad feeling Zambrano is going to own us again.
He gave them pitches to hit. 'Stros just need to capitalize off the mistakes.
MadMax
08-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Well that started out great. I have a bad feeling Zambrano is going to own us again.
good contact in the first inning. we hit him well. hopefully we scratch a few out.
Drewdog
08-08-2007, 07:40 PM
Jason Lane should be sent down to A ball.
What the hell is Garner's love affair with him? Jesus...... :rolleyes:
Groogrux
08-08-2007, 07:59 PM
BGO!!
Kerfeld
08-08-2007, 08:10 PM
Well that started out great. I have a bad feeling Zambrano is going to own us again.
Obvioulsy, I know nothing
Puedlfor
08-08-2007, 08:42 PM
Carlos Zambrano tonight against Houston: 5IP, 4R, 4ER.
Carlos Zambrano against Houston 2006-07(6 starts): 45.2IP, 3R, 2ER
Things are a little different when Berkman hits like he should, Oswalt throws like he should, and Lidge is dominant at the end of the bullpen.
Add Lee and Pence, and that's a pretty good nucleus.
raw10628
08-08-2007, 08:58 PM
Why the heck did Garner yank The Wiz with a 4 run lead in the 6th when Oswalt has been going strong? :mad:
Edit: Just noticed he was at 108 pitches, but that doesn't change my feelings on Garner.
Edit: Just noticed he was at 108 pitches, but that doesn't change my feelings on Garner.
Thanks...
juicystream
08-08-2007, 09:20 PM
Bullpen :( :( :( :( :(
Borkowski shouldn't still be on this the roster... might as well let Gutierez in to a low pressure situation, and let him showcase his stuff.
MadMax
08-08-2007, 09:28 PM
another sellout
rocks_fan
08-08-2007, 10:40 PM
Astros 8.5 back with 9 games to go against the Brewers.
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Uprising
08-08-2007, 10:44 PM
No matter how bad this season has been. Nothing feels better than sweeping the cubs and seeing Zambrano break a bat over his knee. ROFL.
solid
08-08-2007, 10:48 PM
yep. broken wrist. out until almost september.
Thanks, that's a shame.
RocketManJosh
08-08-2007, 11:01 PM
yep ... sweeping the Cubs is ALWAYS fun no matter where we are in the standings. How bout we sweep the Brewers too and make this a little interesting.
A-Train
08-08-2007, 11:11 PM
I'm calling it right now. The Astros will win the division with 85 wins.
TMac640
08-08-2007, 11:22 PM
who the hell thought we'd sweep the cubs? let alone win against Zambrano?
Christ, lol.
Akhorahil
08-09-2007, 12:44 AM
Can someone who can post new threads post this article.
I think it deserves it's own topic. I'm very interested in this.
former Padres and Tigers GM in attendance of tuesday's game. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Another-Smith-in-Astros-GM-post-;_ylt=AmSHIgseuY3OJkO0cLGZpvAb0bYF?urn=mlb,41566)
desihooper
08-09-2007, 10:00 AM
is it too early to state that the run has begun?!?
I told my cousin that if we sweep the homestand, I'm shaving my head! Considering I get married in just over a week, that's a pretty bold statement, don't ya think?!?
I'm calling it right now. The Astros will win the division with 85 wins.
Haha! Cards redux.
I'm calling it right now. The Astros won't win 80 games.
Of course, I much prefer that you end up right on your prediction.
Major
08-09-2007, 10:35 AM
is it too early to state that the run has begun?!?
We've won 3 in a row ... after losing 5 of 7. We're 5-5 in our last 10 games. :confused:
The Cat
08-09-2007, 10:44 AM
The Astros are 31-25 at MMP, including 17-7 in their last 24 games. Winning here isn't the problem. I think any run officially begins when they start to take care of business on the road.
Howyalikemenow
08-09-2007, 10:48 AM
Nothing beat Oswalt's face after strike out on Zambrano. That big grin of his was priceless. :D
They even showed it on ESPN - Oswalt vs Zambrano
MadMax
08-09-2007, 10:56 AM
We've won 3 in a row ... after losing 5 of 7. We're 5-5 in our last 10 games. :confused:
and yet we're making up games left and right. :D
The Astros are 31-25 at MMP, including 17-7 in their last 24 games. Winning here isn't the problem. I think any run officially begins when they start to take care of business on the road.
Agreed. IIRC The Astros have the second worst road record in the Major Leagues.
Major
08-09-2007, 11:01 AM
and yet we're making up games left and right. :D
Well, we've made up 2 games in the last 10 days.. at that rate, I think we'll run out of time before the season ends. For reference, to finish at 85 wins, we'd have to go 34-14 (71% WP) the rest of the way... As Cat pointed out, we're 17-7 in our last 24 home games - that's the % we'd have to continue to play at home and start playing on the road to get to just 85 wins.
MadMax
08-09-2007, 11:04 AM
Well, we've made up 2 games in the last 10 days.. at that rate, I think we'll run out of time before the season ends. For reference, to finish at 85 wins, we'd have to go 34-14 (71% WP) the rest of the way... As Cat pointed out, we're 17-7 in our last 24 home games - that's the % we'd have to continue to play at home and start playing on the road to get to just 85 wins.
we've made up 3 games in 3 days.
we swept the cubs
rockies swept the brew crew
Major
08-09-2007, 11:08 AM
we've made up 3 games in 3 days.
we swept the cubs
rockies swept the brew crew
True, but I don't think that pace is sustainable. :)
MadMax
08-09-2007, 11:16 AM
True, but I don't think that pace is sustainable. :)
you don't think??? :)
if it's sustainable over the next 3 days, it will get pretty interesting.
benchmoochie
08-09-2007, 11:16 AM
We need to sweep MIL at home. Then we'd only be 5.5 back. LA Dodgers are on a 6 game losing streak. If we can somehow win on the road and sweep them, then it will make for an interesting end of the season. The Astros always come around late. I expect them to make some run this year. All they need to do is go off at the plate and somehow get Wandy, Jennings, and Woody to pitch decently (not giving up 6 plus runs)..Maybe magic will strike this year.
if it's sustainable over the next 3 days, it will get pretty interesting.
If it's sustainable on the road, then it will get pretty interesting.
MadMax
08-09-2007, 11:33 AM
If it's sustainable on the road, then it will get pretty interesting.
i agree...but i bet you'd be fairly interested if you woke up monday morning and saw the 'stros were 5.5 out as of 8/13 :)
wrath_of_khan
08-09-2007, 11:39 AM
It's pretty daunting when you realize that we need to play .700 ball to get to 85 wins, but when you look at the schedule, it's mildly interesting.
(DISCLAIMER: One can convince oneself of anything by looking at a schedule game-by-game!)
We play Milwaukee 9 times and Chicago 6.
We play more games at home than on the road.
The schedule is peppered with the likes of Cincy, Pittsburgh, and Washington.
Oh, and Backe may be back-e in September. ;)
Of course, as much fun as looking at the schedule is, we *are* still more than a 10-game winning streak away from .500, and our rotation still consists of inconsistent pitchers and not Oswalt/Pettitte/Clemens.
But hey -- even professional sports writers are wondering out loud: (http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20070809&content_id=2138781&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp)
Dare we think it? Astros showing signs
HOUSTON -- Logic demands skepticism when considering Houston's chances of pulling another one of their patented Lazarus acts.
Despite their fantastic finishes in recent seasons, common sense tells you the Astros face way too many obstacles to get up off the mat one more time, as they did in 2004 en route to the National League Championship Series, or 2005 on the way to the World Series and again last year, when they were eliminated from playoff consideration on the final weekend of the regular season.
There's no way you'd think this flawed team can overcome so many concerns, like a pitching staff that ranks 14th in the league in ERA, an offense that has outscored just eight of Major League Baseball's 30 teams and a bullpen that ranks next to last in the league in ERA.
And yet, watching Roy Oswalt and the Astros finish off a sweep of the Cubs with a thorough 8-2 victory over Carlos Zambrano on Wednesday night at Minute Maid Park, you are reminded of the words of a former Astros bench coach, Yogi Berra, who said, "It's never over until it's over."
Their triumph left the Astros 8 1/2 games behind first place Milwaukee in the National League Central Division, the closest Houston has been since June 17. Fourteen games out on July 18, the Astros have shaved 5 1/2 games off that lead in three weeks.
The Cubs are one game behind the Brewers, and third-place St. Louis, another team written off by many people, is just six games behind Milwaukee.
The Astros stood pat at the trade deadline for two reasons: attractive upgrades weren't available, and they believe this team will have a shot if it can get within five or six games of the lead by Sept. 1.
That seemed highly unlikely as recently as a week ago. Now it seems plausible, though the Astros are treating it no differently than yesterday's win.
"It's a step," Astros manager Phil Garner said. "We hope that it gives us a little more momentum with Milwaukee coming in here, but it's just a step. The reason the sweep is so important, it's a two-game swing. But more importantly, we've got to continue our march to .500, that's going to be key for us."
The Astros roughed up Carlos Zambrano -- who came in having allowed three runs or fewer in 11 consecutive starts and two runs or fewer in 10 of those -- for seven runs on eight hits in 5 2/3 innings. The Astros hit for the cycle against the Cubs ace before the third inning was over.
There have been other indications that could bode well for Houston's September possibilities. The Astros, 17-7 in their last 24 home games and 20-11 in their last 31 at Minute Maid Park, play most of their remaining games at home. They swept the Cubs in Houston for the first time since Sept. 10-12, 1999, in a series that was played at the Astrodome.
They outscored Chicago 15-5 and held the Cubs hitters to an .060 (2-for-33) batting average with runners in scoring position. The Astros have hit at least one home run in 11 consecutive games.
Lance Berkman, who hit a mammoth shot to left-center off Zambrano, appears to be heating up. Carlos Lee, tied for second in the NL with 92 RBIs, is hitting .455 in his last eight games.
Woody Williams picked up a win in the second game of the series, and Oswalt followed with his 12th victory. If those two can continue that Texas two-step and lefty Wandy Rodriguez can somehow duplicate his home dominance (1.69) on the road, this race could get really interesting.
Granted, it's nearly as many ifs as Lee has RBIs, but this team has been here before.
Last year, after 114 games, the Astros were in third place, six games behind the Cardinals, who were about to begin a slide. This year, the Brewers, who begin a three-game series here Friday night, have lost eight of their last 11.
The inability of either the Brewers or the Cubs to pull away from the pack has made this a race that clearly won't be decided in August. Houston still has a combined 15 games left with the Brewers and Cubs. And don't forget the Cardinals.
St. Louis, like Houston, has been through pennant-race pressure before.
Perhaps that's why Berkman, when asked about the possible momentum boost from sweeping the Cubs, kept it in perspective.
"I think we're down to single digits out of first place. We've certainly been here before, so a nice little 20-game winning streak and we'll be right back in it," Berkman cracked.
http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20070809&content_id=2138781&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
i agree...but i bet you'd be fairly interested if you woke up monday morning and saw the 'stros were 5.5 out as of 8/13 :)
It's baseball. I'm always interested!
weslinder
08-09-2007, 12:33 PM
Just watch the games. There's no division title coming this year. But if the Astros start winning some games, maybe we'll have hope for next year. 2008 is going to be great!
smeiou78
08-09-2007, 12:35 PM
I don't want to jinx anything, but I'm holding my breath, hoping for the best, and expecting the worst!
desihooper
08-09-2007, 01:28 PM
The guy I'd be interested in seeing inserted into the rotation is Patton, but Backe might suffice.
Oswalt
Jennings (pray that he turns it around)
Rodriguez (pray that he starts more at home than on the road)
Williams
Backe/Patton/Sampson (pray that one of these three is the surprise "addition" post 9/1).
The offense is showing signs (at times) of turning it on. If Pence can come back from his wrist injury, suddenly, the everyday lineup looks pretty good:
Biggio/Burke/Loretta - 2B
Pence - CF
Berkman - 1B
Lee - LF
Wigginton - 3B
Scott - RF
Everett - SS
Ausmus/Munson - C
MadMax
08-09-2007, 01:45 PM
Where are we in terms of timing for Pence to get off the DL? Anyone know?
leroy420
08-09-2007, 02:06 PM
Where are we in terms of timing for Pence to get off the DL? Anyone know?
He's just started swing a bat and hitting off of a tee. It's going to be a couple of weeks at best.
If they somehow win some games on the road and stay within 7-8 games back, maybe, just maybe, they get in the race when Pence gets back. It's going to take a further decline of the Cubs and Brewers, along with the hope that the Cards don't go on a tear as well.
i see this ending like last year again. at least it's more exciting than being a pirate fan. :)
benchmoochie
08-09-2007, 08:48 PM
it seems that Wigginton is making some key RBIs.
smeiou78
08-09-2007, 09:29 PM
it seems that Wigginton is making some key RBIs.
We sure didn't miss him last night. Go Lamb!
bobrek
08-09-2007, 09:34 PM
it seems that Wigginton is making some key RBIs.
He is hitting .222 with the Astros with 3 RBI. One came in a 12-3 loss, one was the 5th run in a 5-2 win and the other was the 2nd run (on an SF) in a 6-5 loss.
Akhorahil
08-10-2007, 12:38 AM
Ty Wigginton is hitting .296 with the Astros... Not .222, where you got that number from, I have no idea. Now he does only have 3 RBIs in 10 games. But he also has scored 7 runs.
3 runs in the 12-11 win over Atlanta
2 runs in the 8-2 win over Florida, a key part in both 3 run innings.
1 run in the 2-1 win over the Cubs.
He has certainly made an impact. But it's been on the scoring end more than the RBI end. Although IMO moving the runners over is just as important as knocking them in. And that is truly where I see him making an impact.
bobrek
08-10-2007, 12:48 AM
Ty Wigginton is hitting .296 with the Astros... Not .222, where you got that number from, I have no idea. Now he does only have 3 RBIs in 10 games. But he also has scored 7 runs.
3 runs in the 12-11 win over Atlanta
2 runs in the 8-2 win over Florida, a key part in both 3 run innings.
1 run in the 2-1 win over the Cubs.
He has certainly made an impact. But it's been on the scoring end more than the RBI end. Although IMO moving the runners over is just as important as knocking them in. And that is truly where I see him making an impact.
You are correct about the average, I missed the two July games (i.e. he's hitting .222 in August). The poster I responded to mentioned RBI not runs scored, and he does only have 3 RBI.
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