What do you think this guy will eventually develop into? When we got Yao he only averaged 13 ppg. Coaches generally say that it takes longer to develop big men and it takes 4-5 years before they come into their own. Do you think this is true of Landry? I did a search on draftexpress and I can see why Morey drafted him. Landry is right behind Fazekes and ahead of Horford in Player Efficiency Rating (PER) http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2128 Statistics are an important measure used by NBA teams to assist in evaluating prospects. When scouting players, it can be helpful to examine the stats to see if they back up your observations of a player on the court. Power forwards compose the fourth look at the statistical breakdown of the five positions, and the top 20 at each position will be included. Unfortunately, it is impossible for us to include international stats in this breakdown, thus Yi Jianlian, Zoran Erceg, and Mirza Teletovic have been excluded from this comparison. Before looking through the following piece, it may be helpful to first examine the DraftExpress Stat Legend composed by Noah Libby-Haines to gain a better understanding of the statistics used. All the applicable stats have been changed to account for pace of play and adjusted to 40 minutes to provide an equal ground to compare players. Keep in mind that level of competition, a player’s role in his team’s system, and age differentials (ie: freshman vs. seniors) mean that these numbers always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Interested in making your own statistical comparisons? You can do so here. Points Per Game Nick Fazekas (who will show up quite a bit in this article) and Carl Landry lead the way here as the top scoring power forwards. Al Horford and Joakim Noah rank in the middle, which makes sense considering there were so many scoring options on the Florida team. Josh McRoberts ranks a disappointing second to last despite his large role with Duke this season. Points Per Possession Nick Fazekas was the most adept at putting up points with his many touches, while freshman sensation Brandan Wright is a close second [getting far fewer looks] at 1.26 points per possession. Glen Davis, Josh McRoberts, and Jermareo Davidson all struggle here, which may highlight their tendency to shoot jumpers rather than looking for higher percentage scoring chances near the basket. That, unsurprisingly perhaps, coincided with their teams having extremely disappointing seasons this year with them as #1 options. Carl Landry and Justin Doellman again rank near the top. Free Throws Attempted Per Field Goal Attempt This stat can be effective in measuring which players decide to attack the basket frequently rather than settling for jumpers. Caleb Green (absolutely outstanding at establishing position and using his body intelligently) was the most adept power-forward at drawing fouls in college, while the always very active Carl Landry, Joakim Noah, and Al Horford also rank high on the list. Nick Fazekas and Jermareo Davidson especially, and Brandan Wright, Glen Davis and Josh McRoberts to a lesser extent have all been labeled ‘soft’ at one point in their career, and this stat would seem to back up that accusation. Blocks Per Game Stephane Lasme led all power forward in blocked shots per game this season by a ridiculous margin, followed by Ekene Ibekwe, Herbert Hill and Jermareo Davidson. Joakim Noah also ranks high on this list as well, while some of the lesser explosive big men (Chris Richard, Caleb Green, Ivan Radenovic and Glen Davis) struggle to average a full block despite the 40 minute adjustment to their numbers. Blocks Per Foul This stat was designed to measure the effectiveness of a shot-blocker who has the ability to block the ball cleanly against the player who picks up a lot of fouls trying to block everything. Lasme comes in at the top of this category as well, and Brandan Wright and Jermareo Davidson managed to block plenty of shots without playing in a lot of foul trouble. True Shooting Percentage Created by John Hollinger, True Shooting Percentage was designed to measure the all around efficiency of a scorer. It can be calculated by using the formula: TS% = Pts/(2*(FGA + (.47*FTA). Chris Richard and Carl Landry were the most efficient scorers using this as a measure. Fazekas and Wright show here well once again, while Jermareo Davidson comes in last by a large margin. Josh McRoberts and Glen Davis again show their inefficiency. Turnovers Per Game Caleb Green and Jason Smith turned the ball over more frequently than any other power forward, followed by Carl Landry. All three of these players received a good amount of touches on the offensive end and were forced to carry the offensive load for their teams. Brandan Wright and Jermareo Davidson both rank well at the bottom of the list. Joakim Noah averaged an unusually high number of turnovers considering the amount of touches he received. Rebounds Per Game Rashad Jones-Jennings led the country in rebounding this season, and dominated the Sun Belt Conference on the glass. He comes up first here by a huge margin. Nick Fazekas, sometimes called soft, other times called unathletic, still rebounded the ball at an extremely impressive rate. Al Horford and Joakim Noah both put up dominant rebounding numbers despite playing next to each other, while Brandan Wright’s rebounding numbers suffered from playing next to Tyler Hansbrough. Team Rebound Percentage This stat can be effective when judging if a player’s rebounding numbers may be inflated due to teammates who struggled to grab loose balls. Rashad Jones-Jennings pulled down a whopping 36.7% of his team’s rebounds this year. Brandan Wright only pulled down 15.2% playing on a North Carolina squad with many good rebounders. Assists Per Game Josh McRoberts was the most effective passing big man of this year’s power forward class, showing the tools to be an effective high post big man at the next level. Joakim Noah continued to show his versatility in possessing the ability to dish the ball to the open man from both the low block and off the dribble, with his frontcourt partner Al Horford not far behind. Glen Davis also displayed a good feel for finding the open man. At the end of the list we find a few players who their teammates might consider to be “black holes.” Player Efficiency Rating Player Efficiency Rating, also created by John Hollinger, was designed to measure the overall statistical effectiveness of each player. PER may not be the best stat to use to compare college players, however, as it does not distinguish between level of competition, as Noah Libby-Haines explains. Nick Fazekas dominated this category by a huge margin thanks to his terrific all-around numbers and efficiency, and was followed by Carl Landry and Al Horford. The bottom of the list has many players who weren’t called upon or were unable to be main scoring options this season, including Josh McRoberts. Efficiency Efficiency is a calculation generated by the NBA to determine the statistical effectiveness of a player. They use the formula EFF = ((PTs + ORs + DRs + Stls + Asts + Blks): ((FGA: FG) + (FTA: FT) + Tos))/g to compute this statistic. Nick Fazekas is again at the top of this list by a nice margin. Herbert Hill ranks second here due to his strong contribution to Providence, while Caleb Green is third. Efficiency Per 40 Minutes The traditional EFF statistic measures what is produced by a player, while the EFF per 40 measures the same statistics while taking minutes into consideration. This allows for the evaluation of potential while looking at a players' all-around contribution. Al Horford and Joakim Noah both benefit from the 40 minute adjustment, as they had the luxury of long rest periods thanks to a deep big man rotation at Florida. Win Score per 40 Minutes Win Score is a stat recently added to our database at DraftExpress, and was created by David Berri. The statistic is calculated using the formula: PTS + TRB + STL + .5* BLK + .5*AST - FGA - .5*FTA - TO - .5*PF / Min * 40. Nick Fazekas’ terrific play obviously contributed strongly to the season Nevada had, while NCAA Champions Al Horford and Joakim Noah fill the second and third spots on the list.
If he plays more than 25 total minutes all season and is on still on the team's roster come opening day '2008, consider it a success. Some of you put way too much hype into 2nd round picks.
Well if he would've been one pick earlier, he would've been a first round pick so I think it's a little bit of a different story with Landry. If Landry gets minutes, he'll produce. With Yao's huge presence, Landry will probly find himself open a lot for easy buckets and jump shots. Playing with Yao on the court and against him in practice should allow him to improve at a quick pace. I've watched him play at Purdue for the past 3 years and I think he'll turn out to be a really good NBA player. Honestly, I think he could start or be backup PF early to mid-season.
Landry isnt even 6'9" in shoes...I hope to God he isnt the one replacing Yao. His upside is 20-25 min off the bench. Hope that comes in a couple years.
and he's 6'6 if you take away his forehead. Yeah, its mean, but really, that's three inches of height that is pretty much worthless. its as good as hair, except its flesh and bone.
I was not impressed at all, he moves well without the ball, and has decent moves around the basket, but he was a slow jumper......not quick off his feet to rebounds... Corliss Williamson is a decent comparison. Honestly, I would rather have Mike Harris....he is a Big & quick SF in the Marion and Artest mold....and is quick enough to guard the faster players too.... DD
Good point. I guess we'll see where he ends up at. NBDL or roster spot on the Rockets. However, that being said, if Novak gets a Rockets roster spot, then Landry should get one too cause Landry is better than Novak.
Yao on the low block should give Landry plenty of easy 10-12 foot jumpshots (if Landry earns court time). On offene, he is a good fit for dominant low post player.
Landry's big forehead is useful in terms extra storage space for increased BBALL IQ. His bball IQ will make up for any shortcomings he has, similar to Shane Battier, but better.
I hope Landry will do well. I was hoping for McGuire as a 3/4 who was picked up by the Wizards because of his strong rebounding and athletic ability instead of Landry.
If Kato ever had even 1/5 of Landry's offensive game he'd still be playing somewhere. Landry hasnt wow'd how Aaron Brooks or Mike Harris has, Harris having just excellent shooting efficiency tops with anyone in the league. He looks very ordinary but he hasnt embarrased himself either. He's probably above Novak for 3rd best player on the SL team. Besides scoring Landry's and Harris' stats are even.
