Go Titans!

[TheFreak]

Wow, what a game today. Any other die-hard Oiler fans rooting for the Titans? I'd love to see the look on Bob Lanier's face if the Titans made it to the Super Bowl. That could've been us today, Oiler fans! Sweet revenge on the Bills! We have an apathetic city and a mayor who sat on his ass to thank that it wasn't.

[Groogrux]

...or, we had an owner who attempted to force the citizens of Houston to build him a new stadium by threatening to move every freakin offseason.

I'm glad that Rat Bastard is gone...I hope the Titans never win a championship.

BTW, Earl Campbell is my hero for refusing admittance into the Oiler/Titan Hall of Fame.

P.S. They won on a horrible non-call. (Much like the Bills did in the comeback game)

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[Azim da Dream]

Man, was that ever an awesome game. I admitt, I'm not a big football fan, but that game was just flat-out incredible. And the most dramatic ending possible. I wasn't going for any particular team, but I was glad the Bills choked on their decision to bench Flutie.

BTW Rocketman95, I saw that replay at least a dozen times and there is now way that was a forward lateral. Don't look at where the guy was, look at where the ball was.

Azim da Dream

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[Francis3]

Go Titans?

Man im not going for them.. I dont want to see them win.

[Azim da Dream]

Turns out some die-hard Oilers fans in Houston cheered on the Titans hard.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs99/wild/s/0108oilerfans.html

Azim da Dream

[PhiSlammaJamma]

I'm still a fan! what a finish. Finally. Clutch City is back. This time in football. When Houston gets a team, Titans move to a distant number two, but for now, may they go the distance!

[TheFreak]

C'mon RM95, Bud Adams will most likely be dead in a few years, yet we still won't have the Oilers, and will have paid much more for an expansion team. Will it have been worth it? I mean, I no longer live in Houston, so the new team really doesn't mean that much to me. I still had an attachment to the Oilers, however. I'm not about to stop rooting for guys like Bruce Matthews because Bud Adams hurt a few feelings. I want the satisfaction of Bob Lanier finding out the city of Houston lost a Super Bowl team on his watch. Not to mention the Titans have the best uniforms in the NFL!

Luv Ya Blue!

[DAROckets]

I hate bud adams and have been cheering for anyone who played against the oilers all year...until with 20 seconds left the camera pans the oilers sidline and stops on a dejected Bruce Matthews,then I kind of felt sorry that their season was about to end.

I would never jump on a titan bandwagon but I will cheer on the players for the remainder of these playoffs.

[DREAMer]

DAROckets,

That's just about how I feel. I could never ever cheer for a team owned by Bud Adams. He took my team away. The same team I had cheered as a 5 year old kid. 5 year old kids aren't supposed to be cheering for a pro football team, but I did. I loved 'em.

Being a fan of the Titans would be like being from Cleveland and cheering for the Ravens.

I have no problem with people in Houston or ex-Oiler fans still following some of the Titan players, but to want a team to do well that left us without a pro-football team of our own is just plain evil.

I like Steve McNair, Eddie George, Yancy Thigpen, Kevin Dyson, Bruce Matthews, Steve Jackson, Frank Wycheck, and Jevon Kearse. But, I will never cheer for that team. I want them to lose every game for the rest of eternity.

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[Groogrux]

That's what people keep telling me Freak, and I see their point. It's not the players' fault that they left. However, if the players win, Bud Adams wins, and I can't handle that.

We now have ownership that won't threaten to leave every offseason. I'm sure the voters of Houston were wary of building him a new stadium after he demanded that the landmark scoreboard be taken out for new seats, only to continue to threaten to leave.

At least Alexander hasn't threatened just yet.

Yet.

[TheFreak]

I really just wanted to see if anyone was still rooting for Tennessee. I kinda figured there weren't many.

I don't think this is anything like a Browns' fan rooting for the Ravens. That city actually cared about their team and really wanted to keep them. Their team was literally taken away from them. The NFL knew that and guaranteed them the next franchise. They made no such guarantee to Houston, and were grudgingly forced to give in and let them have another team after LA totally botched the endless amount of opportunities they were given. Houston had every opportunity to keep the Oilers, but the city was totally apathetic and the leadership just sat on their hands. How many people showed up for the 'save the Oilers rally', about 10? That should show you how much the city cared. Once again, the 'franchise formerly known as the Oilers' will be around a lot longer than Bud Adams (what is he now, 80?).

[Caddman]

If I remember correctly, the Oilers had just come off of another playoff choke to KC the year after the Buffalo fiasco. Bud Adams revealed his brilliant plan for a downtown stadium for the Oilers and Rockets.

Problems: He didn't consult Les Alexander about the plan, and Bob Lanier didn't want a downtown stadium for just the Oilers. Keep in mind that all of this was under 10 years after he threatened to move the team to Jacksonville. Bob Lanier wasn't perfect in his handlings, but I don't see how you can say Bud handled the situation well or was justified in moving the team.

Bottom line: Bob Lanier wasn't willing to give Bud everything he wanted, so instead of looking into other options in Houston he took his toys and went to Nashville.

Fan Apathy: The Oilers under Bum Phillips were something to be proud of. They weren't the best team, but the city loved them. Bum was fired and the team was a joke ever since. Losing seasons and Playoff collapses in winning seasons made the Oilers the laughingstock of the NFL. I was literally laughed at while wearing an Oilers shirt, and this happened inside the city of Houston. Needless to say, the Oilers weren't an easy team to pull for.

I continued to follow them even after the move to Tennessee. Then Bud Adams did the smartest thing he's ever done, he killed the Oilers once and for all. Now they're Tennessee's team. I found it typical that they'd win a playoff game now that I can't stand the sight of them. But it was won on a bad call, Bud Adams is still in charge, and there's always this week against the Colts. Let's not forget that this is a franchise that mastered on ripping the fan's hearts out after getting their hopes up. Have fun Titan fans.

[Lynus302]

To hell with the Titans. I don't ever want them to win a damn thing.

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[Johnny Rocket]

I agree w/ PhiSlammaJamma right now I am a Titans Fan but I will become a fan of the new team in 2002. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif<A HREF=http://www.nfl2002.com>NFL2002</A> http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif

Congradulations Titans on their win over the Colts. Up Next:Jacksonville.
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Rockets I Want Back In Clutch City: Mario "Junk Yard Dog" Elie and Sam my man Cassell.

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[TheFreak]

Well, it's Oilers/Jags for a birth to the Super Bowl! A good 'ole-fashioned AFC Central Division grudge match. I was really hoping it'd be Oilers/Dolphins, because beating a team 3 times in a row is just so hard to do, especially a team as good as Jax. Hopefully the Oilers can exploit the loss of Boselli on the Jax offensive line. Just think Houston......this could've been us right now! The city would be going freaking nuts! Win or lose, let's just think about just how good this Oiler team has been this year....all the teams in the NFL with incredible records (Indy, the Rams, and Jax), the Oilers have beaten! That's incredible!

Luv Ya Blue!

[Clutch]

TheFreak -- who are you going to root for when the real Houston team takes the field?

Also, this couldn't be us right now. No "Oilers" team is going to pull off a "Music City Miracle" .... no way, no way, no way. Titans maybe. Oilers? Never.

I do agree with one thing though -- the Titans' uniforms are simply bad ass.

[keeley]

Clutch, the groan that you just solicited with that last sentence nearly tops the one you got when you said "Actually, I like Kevin Harlan" ...

[Smokey]

Don't think Houston's new NFL team will be the next Jacksonville Jaguars. The league made a big mistake that year by giving both Carolina and Jacksonville extra draft picks in both the rookie and expansion draft. Expect our franchise to model the Cleveland. Basically we are suck for the first five years. The Oilers were rebuilding when they left. Bud was willing to pay for most of his stadium but Bob "I hope he has another heart attack" Lanier was not willing to put in any public money. Hey! You gotta put in some public money. Look at all the new stadiums being built around the country. It also didn't help that the Oilers were rebuilding at the time. The rebuilding is complete. Will the Titans reach the Super Bowl? I don't know but I will always be a Titans fan. I'm about to cry now. I loved the Oilers more than the Rockets even when the Rockets won two titles. Until the last Titan player with Houston affliation leaves the team, they will still be the Oilers to me. How come there's no Titans radio affiliate in Houston? Don't treat the Rockets like we did the Oilers. The Rockets are in a similar rebuilding position. In 5 years, they will be western conference finalists maybe in New Orleans.

[Groogrux]

Well, if Les demands the Compaq Center be totally redone (ala Adams with the beloved scoreboard in the Dome), and still threatens to move the team every offseason, I say "Good Fu$kin' Riddance".

I am sort of happy for Bruce Matthews, but not at the expense of giving Adams a Super Bowl ring.

[grummett]

I can't remember where I read it but I couldn't have agreed more with the statement. If Dyson was wearing an Oiler uni, he drops Home Run Throwback.

[sir scarvajal]

Can't route for the Titans. I might have if they would have taken their proper name "The Bublin Crude", but they didn't. If you realize how little Adams paid for the Oilers and how much they are now worth now, you realize Butt was just greedy. Just because you can double screw one city over another doesn't mean it is the city’s fault for not letting itself get screwed. LA may have finally figured this out in the days of public-corporate sponsorship, and the sports leagues are all in a tiffy about it. Granted politicians may have made the situation worse, but Butt Adams moved the team to make more dough, pure and simple, despite the fact it was fans in Houston and elsewhere that made it an unbelievably profitable deal for him. That's all you need to know about Butt. I guess it is starting to look like Drayton is the same way, and he got his damn stadium to boot.

BTW the Titans won't win next week, Boselli or no Boselli, Jags still have the best collection of weapons on both sides of the ball and a veteran QB and will win the whole thing (sorry Lams fans).

[Groogrux]

Freak, what makes you so sure that if we had voted to build a new stadium for Butt Adams (nice one sir) that he still wouldn't have left? He promised he wouldn't leave if they took out the scoreboard to add more seats in the Astrodome, and guess what he did? I won't be surprised if the Titans are bad in a few years, he doesn't grumble about moving the team.

I really don't think that the Rockets and Oilers situations are the same. Despite Texans' idiotic views of outsiders (and vice versa), Houstonains and Alexander seem to like each other. Alexander has actually brought a championship to Houston, and has tried to improve the team year in and year out. If they let him go, they're stupid.

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[PhiSlammaJamma]

Looks like it's me and you freak, and Johnny Rocket.

McNair - Lot of people have been very critical of McNair, but if you ask me he's the most relaxed quarterback of the four. There's no pressure on him at all, and my gosh, he's won like 64% of his starts. Not too shabby. And no Turnovers. That's the key stat right there. He makes first downs and doesn't turn the ball over.

Wychek - Lately, teams have buckled down on him. I don't think he's going to get very open on Sunday. But that's ok. Just like last week, it should open things up for Sanders, Dyson, and Thigpen.

Sanders - I'd like to see him out there more. He's got the quickness to get open and he makes huge catches. I think he allows us to open the offense up...despite the fact he'll drop a pass or two.

George - What more can you say, but I think the Jags will limit him on sunday by putting seven men in the box. We'll need to throw the ball. As always.

Kearse - Quiet last week, but with Boselli out of commission he should make some playes or atleast set things up for the other interior defenders.

Hentrich - Huge last week. That guy has mastered the art of punting inside the 10.

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[sir scarvajal]

TheFreak,

If I were still in Houston I would be upset with the new NFL deal too. Just because the current deal is a worse deal than Butt's doesn't mean Butt's was a good one. When cities can't repair dilapidated schools yet provide fat cat owners with public-funds so they can make even more money (Butt has already made an incredible profitable investment made that way because of fans in Houston and around the country), I have to question the politicians priorities. There is nothing wrong with making money, but holding cities hostage because other cities are willing to sell their souls is a game we should not be involved with. LA has figured this out, and others cities have shown some good signs too (SF has got new stadiums with primarily private funds, and Phoenix threw out their politicians who snookered them into bad sports deals too). The crux of the problem is the major sports leagues have monopolies (if you could let groups of citizens own teams--like GB, and let new teams freely enter the market it probably wouldn't be so bad), and such can extort money from the public.

Down with Nashville and the Ti-tets.

[TheFreak]

I'm with Smokey all the way.

Clutch -

I'm not sure who I'll root for. Since I don't live in Houston anymore, the attachment just isn't there.

Part of me is going to want the Titans to beat the crap out of Houston every time they play....it's those apathetic 'fans' and city that lost the team I cared about. Who in Houston is going to go see this new team play anyway? They couldn't even sell out the Dome when the Oilers always had one of the best teams in the league every year....Randall's had to buy up the remaining tickets every week just so the game could be televised. The Astros have consistently had one of the best records in the league the entire decade yet draw nothing at the gate. Don't forget about the Rockets 2nd Round series opener against Phoenix in '94.....only 14,000+ in attendance. That's just sickening. Houston really doesn't deserve any teams.

Sir -

How would the city have been screwed over? They're paying much more for an expansion team than they would have for the Oilers. That makes no sense. The only screwing going on was the Oilers getting screwed by the city, just like they screwed over the Rockets in the arena vote. Who cares if Bud just wanted money? Everybody wants money. The bottom line is the city is paying more now than they would have for Bud. I don't see the logic in losing a football team to spite an old man who'll soon be dead. Houston just sucks.



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[RocketMan Tex]

Root for Bud's Tennessee Traitors?

Never!

But I am happy for the old-time players who were Oilers, like Bruce Matthews.

RM95 took the words out of my mouth when he said Earl Campbell was his hero. Right on!

Remember folks, this team still has the toupee-touting hooker-chaser as their owner. The team still has Oiler blue in their blood.

That is why they will lose to Jacksonville this Sunday. Probably on a couple of blown calls by the referee and a last second TD drive by Mark Brunell.

Mark my words...this franchise is still cursed!

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[IROC it]

Anyone who likes the Titans unis has to love the Rockets' unis. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Don't like Bud Adams... but I like the team themselves.... I'm rooting for them oddly enough.

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[Dream34]

Damn straight. Titans RULE. I loved them when they were the Oilers and I love them even more as the Titans. They have the best Uniforms in the NFL. No doubt about it. Plus this is a young team for the most part. As many of you I do not care for Bud Adams. But I am pulling for the Titans all the way.

Also interesting to see the Houston Chronicle poll. From the people that took the poll most Houston fans were pulling for the Titans. Interesting.

Well I hope they can pull another win out against Jacksonville. That will be a great game. Go Titans!!!

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[Johnny Rocket]

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gifI agree w/ Dream34 The Titans Uniforms Rock!!!! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
Can't wait for the game tomorow I think the Titans can pull out another win against the Jags. When the new Houston team begins playing I will like the NFL 2002 team the most but not much more then I will like the Titans.

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Rockets I Want Back In Clutch City: Mario "Junk Yard Dog" Elie and Sam my man Cassell.
Fav. Quote: "We Want Scottie Back.....Scottie Brooks That Is" ~Off of A Banner at the game.

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[Smokey]

It will be so awesome if the Titans make it to the Super Bowl. I know that ABC will do stories from Houston about how the Oilers skipped town after Houston's mentally retarded and geezer mayor got into an ego war with Bud. Bob Lanier is the devil himself. Bud brought football to Houston. Bud did a lot for the city. Sure he did his share of crap basically threatning to move the team but Houston really did need a new stadium. Why are the Astros getting what they want and the Oilers weren't? The Astros haven't been to any world series. The Oilers/Titans are on the brink of their first AFC championship. I'm so proud to be an Titans fan. The Rockets have won the city's only pro championships and they get no respect. The Rockets need a new arena. I'm glad we got an expansion franchise. I hope the Titans beat the crap out of the Houston team.

[reddog]

After that Buffalo game how can you not root for the TITANS? I'm happy for the team and coaching staff! To hell with bud adams, that doulble-nitt suit wearing,oily headed,fat PUKE!!!!

[Dream34]

Irregardless of outcome of todays game. Yes, I will still be a Titans fan!!! I think the Titans will be making alot of noise for years to come. I mean they have done a wonderful job in the drafts. I mean they stole both Eddie George and Jevon Kerse with a mid first round picks. I think they have a sound head coach. They have fans that are behind them. I mean Adelphia Coliseum has already been stated as one of the loudest (if not the loudest in the NFL). I think they have a young QB who should develop over time.

I think the Titans will be the cream of the NFL crop for years to come.

[Johnny Rocket]

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[PhiSlammaJamma]

Things of interest about Tenn game...that I noted.

-Jacksonville was all over our play action pass roll out. It was like they knew it was coming. McNair was able to get away, but every time he turned around after the fake, a Jag was right ther to try and take him out.

-Why did Jax only rush three people on passing downs? McNair could have run for about 200 yards if he had wanted to. They were lucky he didn't take off a couple of times in the first half.

-Kearse was manhandled again. He's being shut down now. The pitch on the fumble recovery wasn't smart because he was being tackled, but it should have been handled for a TD.

-We cam out passing. Stunning, huh. What's up with that? And it worked to a degree.

-We've never returned kickoffs for T.D.'s. Not in my lifetime. We've been horrible. Even having Tight ends return them for a couple of years. And now, all of the sudden, it's like we can't be stopped. Something changed overnight for the kick return teams. Go Figure. They've been huge.

-And on a side note, How about the decision to sit McNair for two years before letting him play. I think a lot of people have forgotten about that, and now, it looks like it's all paid off. McNair is the most relaxed QB I've ever seen. Even when he misses throws they never appear to be ill-advised. Just way off target.

[sir scarvajal]

Boy I was wrong about the Oilers-JV game. The Oilers showed a ton of grit not just this week but the last two (they were quite lucky the Bill's special teams coach is an idiot). But atleast I was not as wrong as Bill Walsh was about the Rams-Bucs game, who said the Rams could name the score (e.g., 50-6). If Bill Walsh can be so wrong about a sport he has been in all his life (and excelled, and been called a genious, and....), the rest of us should be pretty darned humble about our predictions.

[Mulder]

I hate Bud Adams as much as he rest of you BUT I really like most the Oilers and have met and had more than one conversation with quite a few. I am very happy for guys like Steve McNair, Eddie George, Bruce Matthews, and Floy. (Old Oiler insiders will know who I'm talking about.) I am sad that guys like Ernest Givens, Haywood Jeffries, and others did not get this chance when they played. And if you are wondering if I feel bad for Warren Moon, the answer is NO. (Don't get me started, I hate his guts.)
So Huzzah and Kudos to The Titan players. Mr. Adams, I wouldn't give you the sweat off of my ...



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[Clutch]

In case you guys didn't know this .... one site already is talking Houston football... houstonprofootball.com (http://www.houstonprofootball.com/) -- very cool site. Watching the Titans is interesting to me but personally I'm waiting for the new team ...