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08-15-1999, 08:58 PM
look you can tell us how much you don't like Pippen and how the Rockets will ultimately have to accept the crappy offer of Rice-Horry-Gimp. But I think you guys are only trying to cover up your bitterness toward Scottie Pippen....
Remember last year when his number one choice was LA and he totally screwed you guys by going to Houston? Its too obvious that you guys have some serious personality defects. Like someone said "don't hate the player hate the game". Pippen was in it for the money and where he had the best chance of winning a championship, also taking into mind that Rudy T is a great coach and Texas is the greatest state in the USA. So ultimately the Lakers got screwed over last year and didn't do anything but lose a young gun and a Center for Rice.
I can understand your anger but just cause you are mad at the fact that LA isn't really the best of places to live, crime and pollution don't make a wonderful place to live. Also the fact that no one likes playing with a bunch of ball hogs and pay state tax. Thats why Houston will always have an appeal to Players in the league... If it was the San Diego Lakers I would understand cause you would be crazy to pick Houston over San Diego. But its not so live with it....
In truth Scottie probably understands that next year will be different and better for him... I bet he likes Houston better anyway. The fans in LA woln't put up with crap as well as us Rocket fans did.. We will give another chance but thats cause we have CLASS.
Coming to our board to shoot down our intellegent suggestions and boast about your imature and disorganized team is very classless. The only reason Pippen wants to play for LA is cause of Phil..
If you look at it the way I do you will see why a Shaq-Pippen deal isn't that far fetched.. 1. The triangle doesn't work with a type of player like shaq.. he doesn't hit the mid range j and is no gimp like wennington, Knight is the gimp they need to start. 2. Pippen and Shaq woln't work, just like Hakeem Pippen didnt' work. I also believe that the Rockets are one of the smarter organizations in the league, only an idiot would think that Rice (one-dimensional), Horry (doesn't even want Houston), and Some GIMP (LA is stock full of Gimps, should be called the LA Gimpers), is a good deal.
I think I've made my point... and I didn't even insult LA fans... See Rocket fans have class, I don't personally attack anyone. I just point out you guy's childishness.
Lakers? Move em to Las Vegas!!
08-15-1999, 09:26 PM
>>>>If you look at it the way I do you will see why a Shaq-Pippen deal isn't that far fetched.. 1. The triangle doesn't work with a type of player like shaq.. he doesn't hit the mid range j and is no gimp like wennington, Knight is the gimp they need to start. 2. Pippen and Shaq woln't work, just like Hakeem Pippen didnt' work. I also believe that the Rockets are one of the smarter organizations in the league, only an idiot would think that Rice (one-dimensional), Horry (doesn't even want Houston), and Some GIMP (LA is stock full of Gimps, should be called the LA Gimpers), is a good deal.
Shaq is untouchable, and TKnight would foul out in 6 minutes. He isn't starter material. And we would have both Glen Rice and Scottie. What do we do wih both? We'd turn into the LA SUNS, no backcourt. Listen to your master Clutch.
>>>>>>The Lakers have a "Big Three" of their own in Shaq, Kobe and Rice and they are not under any circumstances giving up Shaq or Kobe. It's not happening. Not ever. Not ever ever. Lets get that straight.
If you had Shaq or Kobe would you trade them? No. Neither will they.
08-15-1999, 09:27 PM
>>>We'd turn into the LA SUNS, no backcourt
meant no frontcourt
08-15-1999, 09:33 PM
And we would have both Glen Rice and Scottie. What do we do wih both? We'd turn into the LA SUNS, no frontcourt. - 26baller
Actually 26baller, Rice and Pippen are frontcourt players.
One more thing, you don't need to post another message correcting your mistake. All you have to do is push the "edit message" button.
President of "The Matt Maloney & Rudy T. Haters Club."
08-15-1999, 09:39 PM
You are very hypocritical... The Suns don't run the same offense as the Lakers do (now). The triangle offense is an offense made to accomadate teams with no center. Look the Bulls won with Wennington and Longley, Phil probably believes he can win with Knight too (Cmon Longley could foul out in 6 minutes too!). Also Rice is a backcourt player and the way the triangle offense works is like this: You have a shooter (Kobe and Rice), a slasher (Pippen), and a rebounder (Ried), now Kobe and Rice would play the same position but would complement each other... Plus Pippen can play point forward but i doesn't matter because the Triangle system discards all previous traditional basketball views, there is no true PG or C in the Triangle. Its not bad for you Lakers but you just totally missed the big picture of my post. I was telling you guys that you are overlooking things are not being courteous or intellegent in your answers (in my opinion by making false stories and annoying regular posters you aren't welcome). But whatever... The truth is no one is untouchable in this league and you should know that by now... The Rockets almost traded Hakeem, The lakers might just trade Shaq.
08-15-1999, 09:46 PM
Rocketman - Might as well make this my final post in here...I have nothing against Scottie or any alternative agenda. I just HONESTLY believe the guy's best days are increasingly behind him and don't want a 34-year-old with a bad back who's lost a step that puts a $15 million cap albatross around our necks until he's 38 and punchless.
You guys keep throwing agendas into our mouths where they don't exist. I DON'T want Scottie Pippen, he's old, he's got a bad back and a worse contract. He will not be traded for Shaq or Kobe, but wish away if you so desire.
Shaq and Kobe are the PRIMARY reason Jackson decided to come to coach the Lakers, he's not about to trade them away, yes, even for Pippen. Tex Winter has also said that Rice will thrive in the system.
No less a triangle authority than Phil Jackson says Shaq will be great in the triangle and that it is designed for a dominant big man. LA ran the triangle through Wilt in 1972-73 and all they did was win 33 straight games and the title.
I'm not expecting similar success by any stretch, but I am saying that Jackson and Tex Winter are looking at Shaq as a great fit, he IS staying put, I just hope Pippen meets with a similar fate in Houston.
Good luck this year guys.
[This message has been edited by Skywalker (edited August 15, 1999).]
08-15-1999, 11:28 PM
08-15-1999, 11:31 PM
meant no Frontcourt as in pf and center. We'd have a lineup of
Also, the Suns have no pf and center. I consider googs a sf. Or if you consider him a pf, they have no sf and center
08-16-1999, 12:14 AM
I am a HUGE Rockets fan. One of the classiest organizations in sports. But you can't honestly tell me that you think Texas is a great state? my friend there said that right now the whole place just peels.
I may hate the Knicks and the NY weather is not much better that TX but NYC is incomparable as a place to be.
And i'm sure you'd get some argument from LA fans. Pretty hard to attack California as a place to live even if there team requires blinders to root for.
I'm just trying to be unbiased as i always am. please don't be offended.
Tishanna the "RocketGirl"
08-16-1999, 12:32 AM
Ive lived in Houston, and El Paso...
Moved to the North now and have been to NYC quite a few times...
So from one person who's spent extensive times in both let me say this. NY is fun. NYC has the night life. But in comparison NYC's crime, traffic, winters, and pollution that spreads everywhere, far deteriorates the city as a whole
And to me being able to party in Mexico in towns like Juarez, was much more fun than hanging out in clubs like the Limelight. But thats just my opinion.
08-16-1999, 02:18 AM
>>But I think you guys are only trying to cover up your bitterness toward Scottie Pippen....<<
Uh....nope. We (fans) didn't want him last year either. Just so you know.
Sure, more of us don't want him now, but that we did want him last year is a gross overstatement.
08-16-1999, 03:27 AM
dreamshake: thanks for the 411. i may be moving to houston [or more likely austin where the high tech market is really hot - but oh, the spurs! http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/frown.gif ]
being from brooklyn, i can handle the problem stuff. after awhile, you don't even notice it. but you make texas as a place to live sound much more appealing. thanks.
Tishanna the "RocketGirl"
08-16-1999, 09:29 AM
You are pathetic. Because we disagree about a game, you assert we have personality defects and attack where some of us live. I've never said one negative thing about Texas, and even though I certainly could, I won't.
Your post doesn't have enough class or intelligence to merit a reply.
I have to come to work every day fighting people in the subway. Just for that reason, i can't wait to move back to Houston.
Sometimes, I get lucky and my company pays for a car to bring me to work. Then, I just run into the 2 hour wait at the Lincoln Tunnel.
NYC is nice. But you wouldn't want to live there.
08-16-1999, 10:50 AM
I recently took a family vacation in Ohio. Hadn't been back in seven years. Ohio is where I grew up and as Texan as I may want to be, it's still an important part of me.
And I can say without equivocation that you can have the whole country north of the Red River. I'll take Texas. The people are more polite, the women are prettier, the food's better, the beer's colder, and the Senators are Republican.
RocketGirl, you will love Austin. I didn't see one thing in Columbus that I thought could possibly compare to its Austin counterpart.
Now, this is totally off-topic and as an admin I probably should do something about it.... oh well.
08-16-1999, 10:58 AM
Rocketman...you GO son! Great posts, and keep the damn Laker fans in their place. They've got as much basketball sense as Forrest Gump!
Rocketgirl...I lived in LA for 13 years. It's a crappy place to live. Glad I'm back in Houston where the people are real, instead of real stuck up.
HOW SWEET IT WAS (AND COULD BE AGAIN)!!!!!!!!!!
08-16-1999, 12:36 PM
And if you make the drive to Austin. Ill give you a great route for fun along the way.
08-16-1999, 04:13 PM
This really isn't the place for it, but...
Having lived in the West, East (somewhat) and Tex (Hou & Austin), most of the congressmen are about the only thing deeply wrong with TX http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif Of course Austin is a gem the other part of the state has yet to fully catch up to in this regard. Sorry to pound on east coasters, but they have nothing. Why do you think the Phily, Boston & NY fans are so great and live-and-die by their team (they have to let it out somewhere). Everything they have the West coast has (ridiculesly priced homes and condos packed together like sardines, arts, coastal scenery, progressive politics and culture) without the butt cold winters and Tx like summers.
Here is a joke for you:
Ya'll know why air conditioning ruined
Texas? It allowed the yankees to move there.
[This message has been edited by sir scarvajal (edited August 16, 1999).]
08-16-1999, 10:56 PM
Thank all the Rocket fans for their intellegent and wonderful posts!
Now I've lived in various cities around the world and the US (Amman Jordan, London England, Toronto Canada, Houston, and Oklahoma City). I have visited MANY cities also. And the best city I have found is San Diego.... it is a very big cosmopolitan city with a beatiful beach and wonderful weather... in my opinion the best! But Texas is in my opinion the best place in the world.. Kagy Summed up better than I can!
I don't like Houston as much as San Antonio though.... I still like the Mexican food in San Antonio better... But no one can beat Houston Creole! Also Houston is more of a metropolitan city wearas San Antonio is a great tourist spot.....
Thats my opionion
Rocketman Tex I'm glad we think alike! Boardman... You can take my posts differently but in truth I think I have made very truthful statements. Just cause you live in a bad place doesn't mean much, I understand that, I live in Oklahoma City (the worst place in the US) and its not the greatest. I wasn't using your residence as the main point of my posts though... I was merely telling you guys my feelings toward your malevolent posts.... I think most people agree with me!
08-16-1999, 11:36 PM
I am confused Rocket? What makes you think we want Pippen at all? What makes you think we want to give up Rice? I personally don't want to see that trade so your insults are not necessary! I think Pippen has seen his better days, he is older then Rice and it is Pippen calling for the trade not the Lakers!
08-17-1999, 02:12 PM
Why hasn't it been deleted? Because I damn well don't feel like deleting it.
Don't like it? Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
"All there really is, virtue and vice-- well it's been a nice life"
08-17-1999, 02:13 PM
Thanks Kagy I am in Columbus. No offence I understand what you are saying. For those living in TEXAS and California- appreciate it!
08-17-1999, 02:21 PM
Well Brian, you guys have made such a big stinking huff about having to stay on topic, then slinging the hypocrisy arrow when it suits you, I just find it terribly amusing to see the double standards at work.
Thanks for the entertainment.
[This message has been edited by Boardman (edited August 17, 1999).]
08-17-1999, 02:26 PM
Tishanna, look me up when you get here (Austin)- we're always looking for IS professionals. Skip Houston unless you miss the grimy 'charm' of the big city. The only reason I spent 8 years there is I needed the industry experience I wasn't going to get in pre-techie boomtown Austin. Fortunately, that is no longer the case.
08-17-1999, 02:36 PM
I'm glad you find the lax enforcement of the BBS rules enjoyable. I enjoy my role as an admin. You know, closing/deleting threads, removing profanity, banning people...
Personally, I've had a lot of fun watching LA fans try to explain why they should be taken seriously. But then, matters of futility have always had a certain charm of amusement about them to me.
08-17-1999, 02:42 PM
Not lax. SELECTIVE. THere's a difference.
In fact, I really appreciate your post above because you made my point better than I had. I'd asserted on the Laker bbs that you guys engage in arbitrary censorship based on whim and not rule. Clutch got on his high horse and excoriated me for making such an assertion, but this thread, and your post that is on it, is indeed proof that the rules are just a sham. You censor based on whim.
Most of your folks here are very knowledgeable and I did appreciate the opportunity to share hoops talk, and I never insulted any of your folks (at least until Rocketman stopped taking his meds). But you admins are something else. Enjoy your private little playpen and....
08-17-1999, 02:49 PM
You are right on the money about the Congressmen. I'm almost embarassed to say I'm from the state that spawned DeLay, Armey, and Phil Gramm. And when the rest of this state and country gets their head out of there asses and sees what a horrible president GW would be, then I'll be very happy.
From your happy Texas Democrat!!
08-17-1999, 02:52 PM
Well, when Clutch decides to pay me for this, I'll spend the time it would take to enforce all of the rules all of the time in a manner that will make everyone happy.
Until then, what you see is what you get.
I've been over this before. It is not censorship. Censorship implies that there is an approved opinion that can be posted and that anything else will be removed. That is not the case.
What is boils down to is what your mom taught you as a child: don't be an asshole and people will like you.
If you are truly leaving, I'm sure we'll see you again when and if the Lakers beat the Rockets this season. After all, you wouldn't be an LA fan is you weren't a front-runner.
****PS: Guys, went ahead and moved this since we now seem to have two conversations, neither of them Rocket-related, going on. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/smile.gif***
"All there really is, virtue and vice-- well it's been a nice life"
[This message has been edited by BrianKagy (edited August 17, 1999).]
08-17-1999, 10:32 PM
Kagy -- no sense in spelling it out for boardman. Once his pride gets going, he'll never let logic stop it.
Don't put much stock in what boardman has to say either. The guy redefines the terms "hypocrite" and "two-faced". In fact, he probably learned of the word after I used it to describe him -- after all, he started using it then and has used it about 20 times since. He's like this because he's insanely bitter about not hearing back after he wrote me a long, sappy apology letter yesterday. Why would I acknowledge, when you can see right through people like this?
The difference here is they are not important to us. We, on the other hand, seem to be very important to them. I've gone to their board twice ever and not once since Sunday evening and half the posts are about us. When they post something to ridicule us they slap cyber high-fives and when they're made to look foolish in counter-arguments they proclaim they've been censored, banned or "jumped on unfairly".
Then the first anti-Lakerite to hit their boards is treated with disdain from on high.
This coming from people who considered this a war and came here to wreak havoc. They were thwarted and thus ran home to cry to mommy and gather more troops for the next round.
Such is the life of the hypocrite.
And boardman takes the cake. You see, he "prides himself" on doing nothing to clean up their boards, but what can he do? Nothing. Nada. Zip. If people want to post bomb recipes or nude pictures of Jerry West getting "Magical", they can -- and boardman and the others have no choice but to bend over and take it until their "admin contact" can step in.
Oh and believe me. Admins do "step in" and censor... err, clean up their boards. A few days ago there were pictures on their board insulting all of us. As soon as those pictures were insulting the Lakers, they were immediately taken off.
Hmmm... double standard? A no-brainer.
So don't sweat boardman -- a hypocritical troll if there ever was one. He'll kiss your butt here and tear you a new one there. He'll say he's left this board, but he's here -- reading this right now, rest assured -- panting to break his bold "I'm out" stance and post again.
Why? Because what we say and think seems to be of the utmost importance to him.
Rockets get Pippened... again
08-18-1999, 01:52 AM
Since you say I live in a crappy place, where do you think I live? I'll bet you don't have the foggiest friggin idea, you moron.
Because I"m a Laker fan, you assume I live in Los Angeles?
Yeah, that's bright.
By the way, why hasn't THIS thread been deleted since it doesn't have a DAMN thing to do with trades, drafts or free agency. I guess it's ok to have an entire thread devoted to nothing more than insulting Laker fans, yet comment on A DIFFERENT BOARD about this place brings a *****storm of weenie protests.
Talk about hypocrisy....what a joke.
[This message has been edited by Boardman (edited August 17, 1999).]
08-18-1999, 10:29 AM
Yeah, for a franchise that's so convinced it's among the elite, their fans do spend a lot of time hassling lil ol Houston....
If you can't "out-argue" them, call them a Nazi.
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