[Official] Pirates @ Astros

[Castor27]

All series talk goes in here. DO NOT GIVE PLAY-BY-PLAY! If you need PBP try Yahoo, ESPN, or Sportsline.

4-2 -- Zach Duke, LHP (0-0, -.--) vs. Roy Oswalt, RHP (0-0, -.--) 6:05 on FSN

4-3 -- Ian Snell, RHP (0-0, -.--) vs. Jason Jennings, RHP (0-0, -.--) 7:05 on FSN

4-4 -- Tom Gorzelanny, LHP (0-0, -.--) vs. Woody Williams, RHP (0-0, -.--) 7:05 on FSN

[DaDakota]

W - W - W

GO STROS !!

I Can't wait !

DD

[rhino17]

3-0 to start the season

pretty good

[Zac D]

HOLY SWEET GOD AN OFFICIAL ASTROS SERIES THREAD

[dockerland]

It's hard being a rockets fan here in Australia with the coverage we get, you should try supporting the Astros. Thank god for MLB.tv

[kaleidosky]

WWW it's time!

[sonique15]

I'm so hyped about this season! Go 'Stros!!

[Kam]

HALF GAME LEAD ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Roger come back, we are leading the division.

[rodrick_98]

9th!

lets start the season right, WWW.

[Cannonball]

Mark my words, Astros will go 162-0 and stun the world. :D

GO STROS!!!

[rezdawg]

Its about damn time...

Double U, Double U, Double U

[Jet Blast]

Start the season off with a sweep.

WWW

[ThreePointShot]

Lets go Astros!

Roy starts it out with a perfect game!

[Nice Rollin]

should be www

[TMac#1]

Sure is nice to see a series thread on the baord. Good to be back.

www

[Hmm]

All series talk goes in here. DO NOT GIVE PLAY-BY-PLAY! If you need PBP try Yahoo, ESPN, or Sportsline.

4-2 -- Zach Duke, LHP (0-0, -.--) vs. Roy Oswalt, RHP (0-0, -.--) 6:05 on FSN

4-3 -- Ian Snell, RHP (0-0, -.--) vs. Jason Jennings, RHP (0-0, -.--) 7:05 on FSN

4-4 -- Tom Gorzelanny, LHP (0-0, -.--) vs. Woody Williams, RHP (0-0, -.--) 7:05 on FSN



isn't one of the games going to be televised on KNWS 51?

[MadMax]

can't wait. already 1/2 game up on the Cards! ;)

WWW

[Castor27]

isn't one of the games going to be televised on KNWS 51?
Yep they changed Wednesday's game to KNWS

[WhoMikeJames]

Is this game today? Wow the season is finally here.

[Kerfeld]

Opening day!- Cant wait, I will be down there!!!!

[Nick]

It tastes so good.... once it hits your lips.

--Frank the tank

[RocketManJosh]

Opening day is finally here. :)

[xiki]

Wowsers, this Thread must mean it's real. It's real. It's really spring, Baseball Season!!! Go Rox - and 'stros!!! :)

[weslinder]

I love Opening Day!



What, you mean the NCAA finals are on tonight?



I love the Opening Series!

[Uprising]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I can't wait!

Go stros!

[russian88]

9 hours or so.............. ;) :D :D :D

Roger will be watching the skanks instead of the astros :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Master Baiter]

Roger will be watching the skanks instead of the astros :mad: :mad: :mad:
**** Roger and **** the Yanks too

[msn]

WWW  

[leroy420]

It's a wonderful day. It may be about to rain in Austin, again, but it's Opening Day and that's all that matters.

GO ASTROS!

GO ASTROS!

GO ASTROS!


WWW

[BrieflySpeaking]

hell yeah, ive waited for this day for a looong time

[rhino17]

I heard on the radio Burke is batting 6th and Morgan is batting 2nd

[Nick]

I heard on the radio Burke is batting 6th and Morgan is batting 2nd

Its something that Garner utilized throughout the last 2 weeks of spring training... he wants a high OBP guy at the top of the lineup before Berkman/Lee, and this also has the dual effect of getting the streaky Ensberg some decent pitches to hit to start the year.

Ideally, I'd want Burke batting 1st, Ensberg 2nd, and Biggio 6th... but that gives Biggio less AB's, and also creates a black hole of Biggio-Everett-Ausmus-Pitcher.

Burke should be fine wherever he is... he needs to stop pressing, the job is his.

[DaDakota]

So what is the lineup then?

Biggio
Ensberg
Berkman
Lee
Scott
Burke
Ausmus
Everett
Oswalt

Is that it?

DD

[rrj_gamz]

Hell yeah...opening day...Wish I was going...A girl I just started talking to is going...Pretty cool...

Stros: 5

Pirates: 2

Go Stros!!!

[bobrek]

Its something that Garner utilized throughout the last 2 weeks of spring training... he wants a high OBP guy at the top of the lineup before Berkman/Lee, and this also has the dual effect of getting the streaky Ensberg some decent pitches to hit to start the year.

Ideally, I'd want Burke batting 1st, Ensberg 2nd, and Biggio 6th... but that gives Biggio less AB's, and also creates a black hole of Biggio-Everett-Ausmus-Pitcher.

Burke should be fine wherever he is... he needs to stop pressing, the job is his.

The "black hole" you mention still exists, except it is Everett-Ausmus-Pitcher-Biggio.

Ensberg batting second should eliminate one of my biggest pet peeves (although Garner does it less than Williams). If Biggio leads the game or inning off with a double, please, please, please do not sacrifice (unless it is the 7th inning or later of a tie game).

[leroy420]

So what is the lineup then?

Biggio
Ensberg
Berkman
Lee
Scott
Burke
Ausmus
Everett
Oswalt

Is that it?

DD

swap Ausmus and Everett...that's it though.

[Nick]

The "black hole" you mention still exists, except it is Everett-Ausmus-Pitcher-Biggio.

Ensberg batting second should eliminate one of my biggest pet peeves (although Garner does it less than Williams). If Biggio leads the game or inning off with a double, please, please, please do not sacrifice (unless it is the 7th inning or later of a tie game).

Well, the only solution to any possible black hole scenario is to not have Biggio playing everyday... but that's not going to happen (since the only places for him in this lineup are 1st or 6th). Also, I prefer Burke over Biggio in that scenario because he can be a table setter and steal bases towards the bottom of the lineup (and then we can sacrafice all we want with our inept hitters).

Also, I didn't mind the sacrafice as much by JW because of the pitching we had in 2004. He only used the tactic in the 1st inning, and you can probably find ample statistics showing the increased winning percentage when teams score first... but I agree that he probably shouldn't have been so stead-fast in that rule (but it did eliminate the black hole, by having Everett bat 2nd).

[bobrek]

Well, the only solution to any possible black hole scenario is to not have Biggio playing everyday... but that's not going to happen (since the only places for him in this lineup are 1st or 6th)....



The solution is for Biggio to hit .280, Everett .260 and Ausmus .250. :)

[Joe Joe]

I heard on the radio Burke is batting 6th and Morgan is batting 2nd

Yes! Until Ensberg can prove he can hit again, the number 2 spot is a great place for him. I'd prefer Burke at leadoff, but this lineup ain't half bad.

[Raven Lunatic]

I refuse to think of Biggio as being any sort of contributor to an offensive "black hole" in the lineup.

[Uprising]

OMG can this day go by any slower?! I'm sitting here bored off my ass wishing they had a new Baseball Game for PC. Looks like I'm going to go get another 360. Blah.

[Cannonball]

OMG can this day go by any slower?! I'm sitting here bored off my ass wishing they had a new Baseball Game for PC. Looks like I'm going to go get another 360. Blah.

Dude, I'm just over a month into my 'Stros season on MLB 2K7. Astros are 26-3. Carlos Lee is batting .430 with 22 HR and 47 RBI. :D

[Bobblehead]

OMG can this day go by any slower?! I'm sitting here bored off my ass wishing they had a new Baseball Game for PC. Looks like I'm going to go get another 360. Blah.

You ought to play MVP Baseball 2005 with the 2007 Mod. New uniforms, updated rosters, stadiums and schedule. Not to metion all MLB stadiums with real signage (Beer signs, etc...not fake EA crap).

It's awesome. Just like a game for 07 season.

[BrieflySpeaking]

You ought to play MVP Baseball 2005 with the 2007 Mod. New uniforms, updated rosters, stadiums and schedule. Not to metion all MLB stadiums with real signage (Beer signs, etc...not fake EA crap).

It's awesome. Just like a game for 07 season.
ah yes, mvp baseball owns other baseball games, i play it all the time but havent upgraded anything, dont know how..

[RocketManJosh]

Heard this was the opening lineup tonight ...

Biggio
Everett
Berkman
Lee
Ensberg
Scott
Burke
Ausmus
Oswalt

I actually like putting Everett in the 2 hole as it allows Burke to be in a position to get up to bat with more runners on base. Just have to hope that Bidge or Everett can get something going ahead of Lance. Could be big trouble if Lance is always coming up with no one on. I think it's a risk worth taking however.

[Rocket Fan]

I'm really excited about this season. It sure would be nice to get the season started off with a win tonight.

[JunkyardDwg]

I just don't see Everett as a viable option in the 2 hole, and nothing I've heard from Garner suggested he was going to do that; it was either the lineup we had last year or Ensberg in the 2 hole with Burke 6th. It just doesn't make sense to put in one of your weakest hitters right in front of your best hitters. I liked the Ensberg idea though, cause even if he's struggling w/ the bat he'll still take walks, which is of benefit to Berkman; what's not is coming up to the plate with 2 outs and none on.

[Major Malcontent]

Lineups for both teams from MMP Press Box.

Pirates
CF Duffy
SS Wilson
LF Bay
1b LaRoche
C Paulino
RF Nady
3b Bautista
2b Castillo
P Duke

Astros as RMJosh said
2b Biggio
SS Everett
1b Berkman
LF Lee
3b Ensberg
RF Scott
CF Burke
C Ausmus
P Oswalt

[Uprising]

You ought to play MVP Baseball 2005 with the 2007 Mod. New uniforms, updated rosters, stadiums and schedule. Not to metion all MLB stadiums with real signage (Beer signs, etc...not fake EA crap).

It's awesome. Just like a game for 07 season.


I think I might try that, I was hoping for something new that would be well.....prettier to the eye. I have MVP Baseball 2004.

I'll try to find 2005.

[rhino17]

Thats wierd, this morning on 610 they said Morgan was batting 2nd

[Uprising]

Dude, I'm just over a month into my 'Stros season on MLB 2K7. Astros are 26-3. Carlos Lee is batting .430 with 22 HR and 47 RBI. :D

Awesome....oh, and SCREW YOU 2K SPORTS! I hate them all, even EA. Those bastards for buying the rights to the sports.

EA was cool enough to put the game on PC. But 2K..... :o

[JunkyardDwg]

Well I guess maybe Garner's thinkin Everett will get better pitches in front of Berkman and might get on base more...and Burke will strenthen the back of the lineup. Whatever works.

[Cannonball]

Ugh! Everett hit .133 this spring. Ensberg hit .288 and Burke hit .191.

[Uprising]

IT"S HERE! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

GO ASTROS!!!!!!!!!

Stros win 7-2

[Cannonball]

Ugh! Everett hit .133 this spring. Ensberg hit .288 and Burke hit .191.

And going through the spring box scores, AE batted 2nd in 4 games going a combined 2-12.

If you're thinking of batting Everett 2nd, shouldn't you experiment more with it in spring training?

[The Cat]

Unbelievable. I've been a MLBTV subscriber for years without any problems, but now it's saying I'm "blacked out" for the Astros even though I'm in the middle of freakin' Missouri. So, I guess no opener for me. Un-freaking-real.

[RocketManJosh]

Ugh! Everett hit .133 this spring. Ensberg hit .288 and Burke hit .191.

Yeah I agree Everett is the worst hitter of the bunch, but some of his skills that he does have such as the ability to bunt could at least be utilized in the 2 hole.

[RocketManJosh]

Unbelievable. I've been a MLBTV subscriber for years without any problems, but now it's saying I'm "blacked out" for the Astros even though I'm in the middle of freakin' Missouri. So, I guess no opener for me. Un-freaking-real.

That can't be right. I had that problem when I was on business travel in New Mexico last year, and the MLB.TV customer support guy said it messes up sometimes. He gave me some token to put on my computer that corrected the problem. I'd give them a call if I were you.

[Cannonball]

Yeah I agree Everett is the worst hitter of the bunch, but some of his skills that he does have such as the ability to bunt could at least be utilized in the 2 hole.

True. And I think it may have something to do with splitting Everett and Ausmus up so the bottom of the lineup isn't SOOOO weak.

[The Cat]

That can't be right. I had that problem when I was on business travel in New Mexico last year, and the MLB.TV customer support guy said it messes up sometimes. He gave me some token to put on my computer that corrected the problem. I'd give them a call if I were you.

I'm doing that, but I'm sure the demand is sky high with it being opening day, so I may be waiting quite a while... :(

[Cannonball]

Is it just me or does Jack Wilson look like Adam Corolla?

[WhoMikeJames]

Aw... That was suppose to go.

[noscrusir]

Berk-man-zino :)

[wreck]

is there a p2p for this game?

[DaDakota]

Biggio....yuck !

DD

[Smokey]

It's going to be a long season.

[RocketManJosh]

It's going to be a long season.

Haha .. the first 3 innings convinced you of that?

[rocketfat]

is it too early in the season for me to start bitching about how awful biggio and ausmus are?

[DaDakota]

is there a p2p for this game?


ESPN Gamecast.

DD

[DaDakota]

Why is Everett batting 2nd? I guess to break up the automatic outs.

;)

DD

[rocketfat]

Why is Everett batting 2nd? I guess to break up the automatic outs.

;)

DD


doesnt really break em up....still 4 in a row

[The Cat]

On hold with MLBTV for 56 minutes and counting. This is absurd. What a way to ruin opening day... thank you MLB. :(

[WhoMikeJames]

Its about time!

[Uprising]

GREAT SCOTT a 2 run BOMB!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D

[rodrick_98]

Hunter who?

[RocketManJosh]

Luuuuuuuke!!!

[ThreePointShot]

I LOVE LUKE!
Franchise player! Franchise player! Franchise player!

[DaDakota]

Who said Luke was Da Man?????

WHO IS YOUR DADDY !!

LUUUUUUUUUKKKKKEEEEE !!

DD

[Cannonball]

Almost Back2Back. This is why I love my Astros.

[RocketManJosh]

Good whack by Ausmus. Tough break or we'd be rollin to a 3-0 lead.

Zach Duke starting to break down?

[Uprising]

Wow, can we stop testing the OF's arm please? :o

[ThreePointShot]

Aw, Roy lost his ribby.

[RocketManJosh]

Wow, can we stop testing the OF's arm please? :o

Yeah that was wishful thinking on that play. I didn't mind Luke testing the arm trying to get to 2nd with 2 outs. I don't like making the 2nd out at home at all.

[rocketsinsider]

carlos lee dont look that great in the first game

[RocketManJosh]

carlos lee dont look that great in the first game

He just hit a rocket on a tough pitch ... I don't think he's looked bad at all.

[home_vc]

carlos lee dont look that great in the first game

He's hit the ball hard every at bat. It's only a matter of time before they fall for hits.

[Uprising]

Lee just missed a HR, and then that bullet. He's making great contact. Now just needs to get his timing a little better. His swing looks sooo fast.

[Uprising]

Ugh HR Pirates

[dockerland]

Don't let this one slip Stros

[DaDakota]

Do we bring on Lidge?

DD

[RocketManJosh]

I hope Lidge is ready ... Not sure if Garner will let Roy finish this up.

Looks like it could be middle of the lineup guys in the 9th.

[macalu]

Do we bring on Lidge?

DD

i'm nervous just thinking about it.

middle of their lineup next. :(

[dockerland]

Roy is out with Wheeler in

[macalu]

Roy is out with Wheeler in
really? that sure doesn't show confidence in their closer.

edit: n/m, they're only in the 8th still.

[RocketManJosh]

Whew!!! OK Wheeler, don't do that again.

[dockerland]

Phew that was close :eek:

[armyman789]

Whew!!! OK Wheeler, don't do that again.
lol what happened.

[JunkyardDwg]

really? that sure doesn't show confidence in their closer.

edit: n/m, they're only in the 8th still.


Well it is the 8th still; I'm guessing Garner doesn't wanna go with the 4 out save. If Wheeler holds on here and stays in the 9th, then something's amiss.

It looks like we're gonna see Lidge; and the rollcercoaster begins!

[RocketManJosh]

lol what happened.

Home run distance ball just foul by about 10 feet with a guy on 1st.

[RocketManJosh]

Time to get some insurance and make this an easier save for Lidge

[armyman789]

Home run distance ball just foul by about 10 feet with a guy on 1st.
eek :)

[rcoleman15]

If they go with Lidge in the 9th Garner should be fitted with a staright jacket especially after the Spring Training that Lidge had. I didn't think that Lidge could get any worse but he proved that assumption wrong with the Spring he just had.

[Cannonball]

69! :D

[DaDakota]

Time to get some insurance and make this an easier save for Lidge

And us fans.

Well screw that 1 run lead and Captain igniter to the mound.


DD

[jojobabbu]

I HAVE THIS NERVOUS FEELING ABOUT LIDGE....

[Oski2005]

Brad Lidge coming up,
http://i14.tinypic.com/2u5xjy0.jpg

[JunkyardDwg]

If they go with Lidge in the 9th Garner should be fitted with a staright jacket especially after the Spring Training that Lidge had. I didn't think that Lidge could get any worse but he proved that assumption wrong with the Spring he just had.

It was Spring Training; there's no way to tell what Lidge is going to do until you put him in some games that count.

[rezdawg]

Here it goes...

My heart is effin racing...

[AzCkR]

I'm about to crapy myself. Plz don't blow this Lidge.

[AzCkR]

Thanks for the K on LaDouche blue. Vert generous strike zone.

[jojobabbu]

LMAO!!!!!!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!! hahahahaha

[DaDakota]

Yep, Lidge BLOWS it....

WOW !

Got to get rid of the guy while he still has some value left, the team's psychy will suffer every time he takes the mound.


DD

[Smokey]

HAHAHA

[JunkyardDwg]

Well... and that's that.

[macalu]

lol, now i know why i was nervous.

[Uprising]

Yay for Brad lidge. He gives up HR #1 of 2007, and so it begins!

Tie game . :o :o :o :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[rezdawg]

Ive been right about that douche bag all along...

LIDGE SUCKS!!!!!!

[dockerland]

You can't be serious :eek:

[FranchiseBoi86]

Brad Lidge is the new David Carr

[AzCkR]

wow. ubelievable.

[macalu]

It was Spring Training; there's no way to tell what Lidge is going to do until you put him in some games that count.
come again?

[Smokey]

The ball still hasn't come down.

I'm glad I flipped over from 24.

[Oski2005]

Boo birds are flocking.

[Uprising]

Wow, MMP is already full of BOOOS. That didn't take long. Great job Lidge! :eek: :o :o :o :mad:

[rocketsinsider]

omg who didnt see this coming :mad:

[DaDakota]

And now he follows up that HR by allowing a line drive double down the left field line.

The guy has lost his explosive fastball, he just tosses hittable fastballs...up in the zone.

DD

[RocketManJosh]

Cmon guys it was just last year. I mean its just Spring Training.

Oh its not spring training? :mad:

[dockerland]

Carlos Lee to put the ball out the park for the astros win

[jojobabbu]

Brad Lidge is the new David Carr
and the new RAFER ALSTON

[Smokey]

That guy's name is Doumit. DOoooooooooumit!

[LonghornFan]

Boo birds are flocking.

As they should.

[WhoMikeJames]

Seriously guys, you didn't see this coming? :o

[DaDakota]

And this is against the lowly Pirates...imagine the horror against the better teams.

Lidge is too shaky to be a closer right now...put him in middle relief and if he earns his way back to closer - great.

DD

[JunkyardDwg]

come again?


I stand by that statement...there's no way to tell what he would do ... and now we know :D :(

[DaDakota]

His fastball is about 93 and up in the zone....that is NOT good....

DD

[jojobabbu]

And this is against the lowly Pirates...imagine the horror against the better teams.

Lidge is too shaky to be a closer right now...put him in middle relief and if he earns his way back to closer - great.

DD
i completely agree

[RocketManJosh]

And this is against the lowly Pirates...imagine the horror against the better teams.

Lidge is too shaky to be a closer right now...put him in middle relief and if he earns his way back to closer - great.

DD

This is what I've been saying all along. He needs to prove that he can pitch reliably for a good month or so before he can be our closer again. Instead we keep throwing to the wolves with no success.

It's hard to improve and work through your issues when you are under the microscope of being the closer.

[AzCkR]

man i cant imagine how lidge feels right now. get him outta there gar.

[Surfguy]

Oh, man, I was laughing so hard when he gave that up. OMG!!!

That is unbelievable.

[JunkyardDwg]

And now he follows up that HR by allowing a line drive double down the left field line.

The guy has lost his explosive fastball, he just tosses hittable fastballs...up in the zone.

DD

And his first strikeout wasn't even all that impressive considering he left his pitches up in the zone...then got bailed out on a 2-0 count.

Wow... I don't think he'll be pulled from the closer's role after this game...but I think he's done...he continues this he'll be gone in a week.

[whag00]

Get this man a sports psychiatrist.

[macalu]

omg who didnt see this coming :mad:

i told my boss earlier in the day i'd give 3 to 1 Lidge would blow it. he didn't take it, he agreed.

[DaDakota]

Well that fastball was 96....but it was still up in the zone.

What happened to his low fastballs?

DD

[AzCkR]

And this is against the lowly Pirates...imagine the horror against the better teams.

Lidge is too shaky to be a closer right now...put him in middle relief and if he earns his way back to closer - great.

DD

im guessing this is going to happen very, very soon.

[rezdawg]

I honestly never want to see that guy on the mound...unless its for the opponent.

[Baqui99]

Brad Lidge should be shot.

[RocketManJosh]

Wow... I don't think he'll be pulled from the closer's role after this game...but I think he's done...he continues this he'll be gone in a week.

After watching last season and this year's Spring training he is still the closer right now. I'm thinking Garner is going to give him at least a month no matter how bad he does. Who knows .. maybe he will leave him as the closer all year because Brad is such a nice guy.

[Rule0001]

Get this man a sports psychiatrist.

Get this man some steroids!

[DaDakota]

im guessing this is going to happen very, very soon.

It should have happened already....Roy O pitched a great game, and now he gets a ND.

DD

[AzCkR]

i think there was a pole about this recently, but i honestly dont know who scares me more lidge or wandy. lidge def pisses me off more.

[DaDakota]

OMFG.....almost a double past Berkman....Lidge is not fooling ANYONE !

DD

[Smokey]

Brad Lidge is the VP on 24.

[RocketManJosh]

Man ... and I was excited that I was about to be able to catch the whole NCAA game tonight :( Hopefully Carlos can bash one out and "become an Astro" tonight (assuming Lidge doesn't ruin his chance)

[dockerland]

Just a foul.....

Please just don't let them score again lidge :(

[WhoMikeJames]

PHEW...

[ThreePointShot]

I leave for an hour and Lidge blows it... Damn.

[DaDakota]

Everett with a great play to save Lidge's butt.

DD

[rezdawg]

I wish this was some long extended April Fool's joke...

[Surfguy]

There is only so much punishment Astros fans can take. It really is the "Curse of the Pujol". He doesn't need a psychiatrist doctor. He needs a witch doctor.

:D

[Smokey]

Everett saves Lidge.

The ball still hasn't come down.

[dockerland]

Huge play by Everitt :D

[Clutch]

I still like my Rafer Alston prank better.

[AzCkR]

uh lidge needs to go. im sorry. he's absolutely awful and completely unreliable.

[TMac640]

whew...

i thought lidge might have a decent season for a minute :D

[JunkyardDwg]

After watching last season and this year's Spring training he is still the closer right now. I'm thinking Garner is going to give him at least a month no matter how bad he does. Who knows .. maybe he will leave him as the closer all year because Brad is such a nice guy.

I wouldn't doubt that...Garner can be stubborn to a fault sometimes; but if this teams wants another postseason appearance, they cannot afford a struggling Lidge in the closer's role for a long duration...aside from the risk of blowing games, what kind of impact would that have on the team's morale, especially the starting pitching. Keeping him in that role wouldn't be fair to either parties.

Good news is that we have a number of arms waiting in Round Rock for a chance.

[rezdawg]

It sucks to know that your closer needs at least a 2 run cushion to be effective. Fantastic.

[Oski2005]

Nady!
http://i13.tinypic.com/3zbdmbt.jpg

[WhoMikeJames]

Extra innings... :(

[DaDakota]

Dang Luke Scott just about ended it......

DD

[RocketManJosh]

How pissed must Roy Oswalt be right now?

[BrieflySpeaking]

poor lidge, he needs to be put on suicide watch

[ThreePointShot]

Our savior Luke Scott while hit the walk-off... and he lines out.

[russian88]

****ing lidge. :mad:

[ThreePointShot]

Our savior Luke Scott while hit the walk-off... and he lines out.will*

[jojobabbu]

poor lidge, he needs to be put on suicide watch
DID YOU JUST SEE NOLAN RYAN PICKING HIS NOSE??

[Oski2005]

That was funny how he got those 2 quick outs and they talked about him being at the elite pitcher's camp and they show Ryan in the stands and then BLAMO!

[Bobblehead]

They HAVE to win games that Roy starts. Because you can pretty much assume a lose when Wandy pitches.

I have ZERO confidence in Lidge and I wish they would have traded him when they had a chance. This is pathetic.

And Lee is 0-4??

Astros stink tonight agains the crappy Bucs!!!!

[JunkyardDwg]

How pissed must Roy Oswalt be right now?

And I'm sure Clemens is watching this somewhere.

[RocketManJosh]

And Lee is 0-4??



You can't bash him too much for one game (I'd say the same about Lidge except for that I think we all realize his problems go beyond one game).

The one DP that he hit into was a real rocket and could have easily been a 2 RBI double.

[ThreePointShot]

Sigh, so much for better offense. :rolleyes:
I was so optimistic about this game too...

Well, I shouldn't judge the offense by the Opening Game performance, I should judge Lidge!

[JunkyardDwg]

You can't bash him too much for one game (I'd say the same about Lidge except for that I think we all realize his problems go beyond one game).

The one DP that he hit into was a real rocket and could have easily been a 2 RBI double.

He's had some hard hits all night that just went right to a fielder's glove.

[russian88]

Duke pitched an ok game, too many LOB and Lidge just F U C K I N G sucks and so does Qualls.

[WhoMikeJames]

Crap. Jason Bay sucks.

[Oski2005]

What a wonderful way to start the season.

[JunkyardDwg]

This is gonna be a looong season.

[dockerland]

You have gotta be kidding me :eek:

[Uprising]

Yay for Brad lidge. He gives up HR #1 of 2007, and so it begins!

Tie game . :o :o :o :mad:



Yay for Chad Qualls. He gives up HR #1 of 2007, and so it begins!

Tie game . :o :o :o :mad:

[rodrick_98]

Yay for Chad Qualls. He gives up HR #1 of 2007, and so it begins!

Tie game . :o :o :o :mad:

tie? now we're losing

[RocketManJosh]

Well both Lidge and Qualls were the "anti-clutch" last season, and it looks like that hasn't changed this year. :(

What a deflating opening game.

[Uprising]

Sad thing about the above statement, is that I wrote that when ROY gave up the HR. I thought it was Chad. Well, I was right though. He was going to give up a HR. :( :eek:

[TMac#1]

This is not going to be more than a .500 team, and I simply can't care aboput them until the Rockets are done with the Western Conference Finals or NBA Finals.

[ThreePointShot]

Oh my god.
What the HELL happened to our pitching?!

[Uprising]

tie? now we're losing


Yeah, I just re-pasted what I had wrote about LIdge. :o

[DaDakota]

Purpura was right the bullpen was a strength this year.

Maybe the people who predicted the Stros to struggle this year were right.

You can not lose the games that Oswalt goes 7+ innings and gives up 1 run.

And so much for our new offense.

UGH.

DD

[Uprising]

Oh my god.
What the HELL happened to our pitching?!


NOTHING....and that is the problem. :(

[rodrick_98]

Oh my god.
What the HELL happened to our pitching?!

what pitching? we've known about this problem since last season.... and people were worried about the #4 and 5 spots. hah

[Oski2005]

Now we have to count on Burke and Au...Loretta.

[Uprising]

It's just one game, but after waiting so long for this it's driving me nuts!

[HAYJON02]

We could use another bat on our lineup, like... Carlos Lee's. Rough first game for him. Maybe just trying too hard to please the crowd?

[RocketManJosh]

It's just one game, but after waiting so long for this it's driving me nuts!

Yeah so much emphasis is put on the first game of the season when it's just one game. However, games like this one are the reason we finished 1.5 out last year. I feel like we saw this exact same game like 15 times last season.

[WhoMikeJames]

Mark Loretta must save us.

[WhoMikeJames]

Booooooooooooooo

[rodrick_98]

well.... Roy O pitched well. didn't hurt his cy young chances, although his 20 win season just got a bit longer.

[jojobabbu]

Mark Loretta must save us.
WHY DIDNT GARNER PINCH HIT FOR AUSMUS???????

[RocketManJosh]

Ugh ... This game is as much on the 3rd base coach as it was Lidge. The decision to wave Burke in on that Oswalt single with 1 out really cost us big time.

[Surfguy]

I say get rid of Garner (replace with Baggy), Lidge, and Qualls.

They can go ride a love train together and be a tripod of terror.

[BrieflySpeaking]

bullshyt

[JunkyardDwg]

Should Garner have even taken Roy O out in the 8th? True Bay was up but still, the guy was only at 95 pitches and had been cruising all game. Why not give him a chance for a complete game.

[Uprising]

Why is this guy still our closer? DEMOTE HIS ASS...again. But this time for GOOD.

[rikesh316]

Adam Everett batting second? LOL. Put a guy who had a .290 OBP the last two season second. Makes a lot of sense.

[BrieflySpeaking]

Why is this guy still our closer? DEMOTE HIS ASS...again. But this time for GOOD.
use him for trade bait

[AggieRocketFan96]

Wow, another blown save by Lidge, loss in xtra innings. Its deja vu from 2006 all over again!

[rikesh316]

WHY DIDNT GARNER PINCH HIT FOR AUSMUS???????

Why would he? Ausmus hit .230 last year.

[Bobblehead]

HORRIBLE START TO THE SEASON!!!

[BrieflySpeaking]

i think houston sports are cursed.

[jojobabbu]

Why would he? Ausmus hit .230 last year.
??? HUH IS THAT SARCASM OR ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS.....230 IS BAD...AUSMUS SHOULD NOT BE HITTING WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE...

[jojobabbu]

i think houston sports are cursed.
I THINK SALARY SHOULD BE INCENTIVE BASED LIKE THE NFL....

[BrieflySpeaking]

??? HUH IS THAT SARCASM OR ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS.....230 IS BAD...AUSMUS SHOULD NOT BE HITTING WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE...
sarcasm

[jojobabbu]

I THINK SALARY SHOULD BE INCENTIVE BASED LIKE THE NFL....
THESE ****ERS ONLY PLAY HARD IN THE CONTRACT YEARS

[ThreePointShot]

THESE ****ERS ONLY PLAY HARD IN THE CONTRACT YEARS
Try finding the caps lock key on your keyboard please.


Anyways, we still have the 161-1 season to look forward to. ;)

[Cannonball]

use him for trade bait

Just like the Texans did with David Carr.

[BrieflySpeaking]

Just like the Texans did with David Carr.
nah, someone WILL want Lidge

[RocketManJosh]

THESE ****ERS ONLY PLAY HARD IN THE CONTRACT YEARS

:rolleyes:

I think you should stop watching the rest of the season if you think they are not trying. In many cases (including Lidge), I think they are trying too hard. Its not like basketball where extra energy is often good.

[rhino17]

That Lidge for Tejada deal looks pretty good about now :p

[ThreePointShot]

Garner on Fox26
"Brad Lidge IS my closer."
:\

[BrieflySpeaking]

Garner on Fox26
"Brad Lidge IS my closer."
:\
:mad:

[JunkyardDwg]

The team is not gonna get anything of value for Lidge; we've already seen that this offseason.

And Garner saying in press conference he believes Lidge will get it done is just to give him a vote of confidence. He's not gonna publicly give Lidge an ultimatum after the first game of the season. But I'm betting and hoping that things are churning in his head and a plan B is in place should LIdge continue to struggle. But he's not gonna come out and bash Lidge; he'll keep praising him until he yanks him.

[Cannonball]

Garner on Fox26
"Brad Lidge IS my closer."
:\

I can understand Garner not pulling the plug one game into the season, but I do wonder what it's going to take for Lidge to actually lose his job. He sucked for an entire season. A season during which the 'Stros twice said they were going to "closer by commitee". They never really did. Lidge gets lit up all spring and blows the first game of the season. I'd like to believe that if Lidges stays this way they'll remove him from the closers' role, but with Gar and Pup I don't know if that will actually ever happen. :(

[RocketManJosh]

I can understand Garner not pulling the plug one game into the season, but I do wonder what it's going to take for Lidge to actually lose his job. He sucked for an entire season. A season during which the 'Stros twice said they were going to "closer by commitee". They never really did. Lidge gets lit up all spring and blows the first game of the season. I'd like to believe that if Lidges stays this way they'll remove him from the closers' role, but with Gar and Pup I don't know if that will actually ever happen. :(

I agree with you here. I said before the season that I didn't take Garner serious as a manager because he threw him out there in the closers role when he hasn't done anything in over a year. HOWEVER, I would take Garner even less seriously if he took Lidge out now. He made him the closer and I think he ought to give him a couple weeks and re-evaluate, but I'm guessing he is going to get at least a month or two with how stubborn Garner is.

[rhino17]

Lidge=Carr

Both are/were getting too much time to prove their worth. I'll give him a few more chances, but if he doesnt correct it soon, its time to pull the plug.

I still cant believe he blows a save in the first game of the year

[rezdawg]

By the time Garner realizes that Lidge is no longer a closer...the Astros will not be in the running for the division anymore.

The sooner we pull the plug on that guy, the better off the team will be.

[DaDakota]

Garner on Fox26
"Brad Lidge IS my closer."
:\


Dom Capers " David Carr is my QB"

Same thing.

DD

[BrieflySpeaking]

why are houston coaches so stubborn

[ndnguy85]

Dom Capers " David Carr is my QB"

Same thing.

DD

don't forget..

RAFER IS MY PG! :D

[macalu]

where's Aceshigh7 to defend his buddy Lidge?

[Hammer755]

Say what you want about Lidge, but I think this one falls at the feet of Garner. What kind of lineup has Biggio & Everett batting at the top? Their combined OBP last year was under 0.300. Meanwhile, you have Ensberg, who nearly had a 0.400 OBP in 2006 despite batting in the 0.230s, and Burke (0.350 OPB - good, but not great) batting down in the order.

The icing on the cake was when he decided to let Ausmus bat for himself in the 10th inning, even though he had Lamb still available. You can argue that Tracy would have gone with the lefty, but I still like my chances better with Lamb than Ausmus.

One thing's for sure - it didn't take long for the crowd's pity ovation for Lidge during player introductions to turn into raucous boos.

[ROCKET RICH NYC]

Lidge=Carr

Both are/were getting too much time to prove their worth. I'll give him a few more chances, but if he doesnt correct it soon, its time to pull the plug.

I still cant believe he blows a save in the first game of the year

Lidge = Nick Anderson (1994 Orlando Magic) :D

[DwangBoy]

this sucks.

[DaDakota]

You think Roger wants to come back to this bullpen....???

ROFLMAO !!

DD

[rezdawg]

You think Roger wants to come back to this bullpen....???

ROFLMAO !!

DD

We're slowly hammering home the nail in the coffin of him returning...

[Cannonball]

We're slowly hammering home the nail in the coffin of him returning...
...to the Yankees.

[rezdawg]

...to the Yankees.

haha, I said it wrong...thanks for the correction. :D

[baller4life315]

J-BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

Pirates 1-0

Gotta enjoy the winning record while it lasts....c'mon i've endured 14 years of this losing sh!t ;)

[BigM]

i haven't really read this thread, what on earth was the explanation for adam everett in the 2 spot again?

[SamCassell]

i haven't really read this thread, what on earth was the explanation for adam everett in the 2 spot again?
Or Biggio leading off? Given their respective OBP last seasons, its almost critical to start the game with the 1st 2 hitters getting on base 30% of the time. Not to mention that it wastes Biggio's remaining value at the plate, which is his power. They'll make alot more use of it if they bat him 6th.

[kaleidosky]

J-BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

Pirates 1-0

Gotta enjoy the winning record while it lasts....c'mon i've endured 14 years of this losing sh!t ;)

enjoy it all you want. don't enjoy it here

[MadMax]

i haven't really read this thread, what on earth was the explanation for adam everett in the 2 spot again?

everett's best year at the plate was when he was batting in the 2 hole. purpura said they liked his speed toward the top of the lineup.

batting aside, his play in the 9th was fantastic. another incredible play that AE makes look routine.

[RocketManJosh]

everett's best year at the plate was when he was batting in the 2 hole. purpura said they liked his speed toward the top of the lineup.

batting aside, his play in the 9th was fantastic. another incredible play that AE makes look routine.

Yeah I don't mind him in the 2 hole at all. He even hit a double last night so he definitely was not the reason we lost.

[MadMax]

Yeah I don't mind him in the 2 hole at all. He even hit a double last night so he definitely was not the reason we lost.

he also saved at least 1 run in the 9th on that catch in shallow left over his shoulder.

[Joe Joe]

Everett didn't hurt the Stros this game batting second, but don't think he's a good fit there. I would prefer he bat 8 so the pitcher could sacrifice him to 2nd. He's more likely to score from 2nd on a single than Ausmus.