View Full Version : Read a news for sina.com(Yao's angry)
Just found from the chinese website, it's the first time yao yell to tmac. The last 10 seconds, when yao got the ball, he passed to Tmac, but Tmac passed to him again, yao have to pass to Tmac back. And all of us knew what happend then. When the game is over, Yao yell to tmac:" why do you pass the ball to me?" Tmac kept quiet and went to the Locker room, JVG also looked at Tmac's face all the time.
I don't feel good about this, it is ture, I saw yao said something to Tmac. :(
YugoRocketsFan
04-01-2007, 09:50 PM
Just found from the chinese website, it's the first time yao yell to tmac. The last 10 seconds, when yao got the ball, he passed to Tmac, but Tmac passed to him again, yao have to pass to Tmac back. And all of us knew what happend then. When the game is over, Yao yell to tmac:" why do you pass the ball to me?" Tmac kept quiet and went to the Locker room, JVG also looked at Tmac's face all the time.
I don't feel good about this, it is ture, I saw yao said something to Tmac. :(
Yao yelling at T-Mac? You sure it wasn't Rafer.
count_dough-ku
04-01-2007, 09:51 PM
Just found from the chinese website, it's the first time yao yell to tmac. The last 10 seconds, when yao got the ball, he passed to Tmac, but Tmac passed to him again, yao have to pass to Tmac back. And all of us knew what happend then. When the game is over, Yao yell to tmac:" why do you pass the ball to me?" Tmac kept quiet and went to the Locker room, JVG also looked at Tmac's face all the time.
I don't feel good about this, it is ture, I saw yao said something to Tmac. :(
You could see him yelling at T-Mac when the game was over. I'm glad he's pissed. He needs to get on his teammates for not showing up tonight.
noize
04-01-2007, 09:52 PM
oh no, not again...someone debunk this quick.
Tfor3
04-01-2007, 09:52 PM
going to my DVR, brb.
BrotherFish
04-01-2007, 09:52 PM
I beleive T-Mac was just passing it to Yao to get it back for a jump shot from behind the three point line. A two pointer would not have helped us out.
rodrick_98
04-01-2007, 09:53 PM
oh no, not again...someone debunk this quick.
somebody start a trade tmac for kevin garnett thread
Yao yelling at T-Mac? You sure it wasn't Rafer.
I am not sure. Sorry for my poor English. But sina.com is good,should not lie.
R0ckets03
04-01-2007, 09:55 PM
OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAO YELLED AT TMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Tmac two years old that he cant take a little yellin? :rolleyes:
alexdapooh
04-01-2007, 09:55 PM
somebody start a trade tmac for kevin garnett thread
all of this is irrelevant.. we just need one more player who can create/dribble/and is confident.
YugoRocketsFan
04-01-2007, 09:56 PM
I am not sure. Sorry for my poor English. But sina.com is good,should not lie.
Its a joke my asian friend. Rafer is horrible, thats why I said it.
smeiou78
04-01-2007, 09:57 PM
sina.com has proven to be a reliable source thus far, and this doesn't sound too farfetched. McGrady made the wrong decision by passing to Yao. JVG made the wrong decision by giving McGrady the last shot. We missed too many free throws, and the refs made a few bad calls, namely the last one when they called a block on Battier when it was clearly, CLEARLY a charge.
WhoMikeJames
04-01-2007, 09:57 PM
Um? Who Cares... They are adults not little kids fighting with each other. Its not like Yao is going to yell something and Tracy is like "okay fine im not your friend anymore!".
Dr of Dunk
04-01-2007, 09:58 PM
This is a "rumor" I can believe. I don't know if it's true without watching the replays, but I originally thought the ball was passed to Yao simply because there was enough time to set up a better shot and that TMac didn't have a good, uncontested shot - am I wrong? Could TMac have been trying to regain footing and get the ball back from Yao?
Either way, I can see this being true... if TMac had a clear shot with enough time to shoot, then no way should Yao get that ball back. opefully nothing is going wrong in the House of Rockets.
DaDakota
04-01-2007, 09:58 PM
OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAO YELLED AT TMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Tmac two years old that he cant take a little yellin? :rolleyes:
YES !!!
Which is why JVG never.....NEVER yells at Tmac....his ego is so fricken fragile it isn't funny.
Tmac needs coddling, apparently.
DD
freemaniam
04-01-2007, 10:00 PM
I noticed this news from sina.com too but it was too "intriguing" (am I using the right word?) to be even mentioned here.
I didn't have a chance to watch the game but did watch the highlight of this last play at nba.com. Seems like TMac was using Yao as a transition to get another better shooting position. He probably not comfortable enough on that baseline 3 pointer.
The nba.com clip didn't show what happened thereafter but I think Yao has no reason to yell at TMac.
The whole team is responsible for the lost tonight. Shouldn't blame a single palyer/coach or two. Get it over and look for the next game. GO ROCKETS!!!
youyou
04-01-2007, 10:01 PM
i only watched the first q of this game then stopped for i know we would lose for sure. rox cannot win good teams with tmac playing like today.
but if yao really did this, i dislike his move. tmac played great when yao was out, 20-12, that is why we are having a little hope for home court. ppl shouldn't yell at him for one or two bad games. yao shouldn't either. there were enough games when tmac did great while yao sucked, tmac never yelled to him. on the contrary, tmac always encouraged him, defended him before espn or those stupid haters.
and you guys should see that tmac has been struggling since yao returned. yao returned to lineup, too many things need to be adjusted, all those are jobs for the coach and the playmaker, who is tmac for this rox team. i don't think jvg is good at coaching offensive games, so the load on tmac is huge. be a little patient.
especially you, yao.
Matchman
04-01-2007, 10:02 PM
sina.com has proven to be a reliable source thus far, and this doesn't sound too farfetched. McGrady made the wrong decision by passing to Yao. JVG made the wrong decision by giving McGrady the last shot. We missed too many free throws, and the refs made a few bad calls, namely the last one when they called a block on Battier when it was clearly, CLEARLY a charge.
can someone send an email to "Make a Call with Ronny Nunn" and ask about that call? AND more importantly if the call is NOT legit did the official get a punishment ?
DaDakota
04-01-2007, 10:02 PM
You know what? I will bet Yao can make that 3pt shot......he is a good shooter.
I would rather Yao take it than Rafer.
DD
SuperYanthrax
04-01-2007, 10:03 PM
This is a "rumor" I can believe. I don't know if it's true without watching the replays, but I originally thought the ball was passed to Yao simply because there was enough time to set up a better shot and that TMac didn't have a good, uncontested shot - am I wrong? Could TMac have been trying to regain footing and get the ball back from Yao?
Either way, I can see this being true... if TMac had a clear shot with enough time to shoot, then no way should Yao get that ball back. opefully nothing is going wrong in the House of Rockets.
McGrady didn't have a very good look, but there was not enough time to set up another shot. He had to just jack it up. As it turned out there wasn't enough time to set up another shot.
Yeah, ignore this thread.
Let's beat Golden State next wed, I still love this team forever.
HTownTmac1
04-01-2007, 10:05 PM
i only watched the first q of this game then stopped for i know we would lose for sure. rox cannot win good teams with tmac playing like today.
Ok.... well if u would of watched the second half of the game u could of CLEARLY seen that WE had total control of this FREAKING GAME untill the last 4 min of the 4th Quarter... GOSH DAMNIT I HATED THIS GAME... :mad: :mad: :mad:
redefined
04-01-2007, 10:06 PM
I find the whole sequence hysterical. From Tmac passing to Alston for no reason who takes a stupid 3. Then JVG calls a timeout to set up a play to get a good shot off. And then of course Tmac puzzling all of us here on what the hell he was trying to pull off. He was open in that corner for a second, I don't know why he didn't shoot...
ivanyy2000
04-01-2007, 10:07 PM
You know what? I will bet Yao can make that 3pt shot......he is a good shooter.
I would rather Yao take it than Rafer.
DD
In his first year? Maybe.
In JVG's era, not a chance. He is locked into the low post. His range is limited right now.
Amare may have a better 17 or 18 footer jumper.
demon77
04-01-2007, 10:07 PM
I think this might be true, b/c after the game end, I did see yao facing T-mac or someone with a really piss off facial expression. (my first thougt was he was yelling at T-mac, but i didn't pay much attention to it)
whoisray
04-01-2007, 10:09 PM
anyone have this recorded?
redefined
04-01-2007, 10:10 PM
I think this might be true, b/c after the game end, I did see yao facing T-mac or someone with a really piss off facial expression. (my first thougt was he was yelling at T-mac, but i didn't pay much attention to it)
I actually saw JVG screaming at someone....I thought it was Yao. But I don't know.
youyou
04-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Ok.... well if u would of watched the second half of the game u could of CLEARLY seen that WE had total control of this FREAKING GAME untill the last 4 min of the 4th Quarter... GOSH DAMNIT I HATED THIS GAME... :mad: :mad: :mad:
calm down calm down. jazz is no weak compared with rox, let's face it. and they are very very tough and they have done so many times coming from behind in the last few minutes. if rox cannot set up a big lead from the beginning and tmac obviously is not there offensively, no way rox will win. so don't be so disappointed.
demon77
04-01-2007, 10:11 PM
I actually saw JVG screaming at someone....I thought it was Yao. But I don't know.
doesn't he always scream? :D
You know what? I will bet Yao can make that 3pt shot......he is a good shooter.
I would rather Yao take it than Rafer.
DD
you know what thats exactly what I was thinking! lol
and I do believe if Yao practices enough from 3pt line he can make them at a high percentage cuz he's just that good of a shooter and he has that soft touch! its not like he has to put up a hook shot from 3pt line!!
smeiou78
04-01-2007, 10:17 PM
can someone send an email to "Make a Call with Ronny Nunn" and ask about that call? AND more importantly if the call is NOT legit did the official get a punishment ?
Ronnie Nunn doesn't do jack crap. I emailed him a few weeks ago when Yao was tackled, and he didn't even mention it on his show. In fact, I bet he didn't even know that Yao was tackled because that's how little respect we get. Nunn is useless. And no, the refs don't get punished. They just "learn" from their mistakes. :mad:
sun12
04-01-2007, 10:19 PM
you know what thats exactly what I was thinking! lol
and I do believe if Yao practices enough from 3pt line he can make them at a high percentage cuz he's just that good of a shooter and he has that soft touch! its not like he has to put up a hook shot from 3pt line!!
No, he will be blocked since his release is not that fast.
MoonWalker
04-01-2007, 10:26 PM
I dont understand why tmac would constantly just throw one up with 18 seconds left on the shot clock and this time he decided to pass when there's less than 2 seconds remaining.
i'm not a Tmac hater, i love him. but i just hope he'll find a way to help rox win...before its too late
this lose is not so bad, its a wake up call for the Rox, when the game is on the line, we need to do better than today.
kmart9419
04-01-2007, 10:26 PM
Yeah, I saw Yao clearly yelling at someone at the end of the play. My guess is its T-Mac. I think Yao clearly spoke his mind in a moment of passion. I hope nothing is amiss. Things like this does happen in the heat of a battle. Forget the whole thing and get ready for the next game.
rofflesaurus
04-01-2007, 10:29 PM
anyone with half a brain would yell at t-mac after that
sun12
04-01-2007, 10:42 PM
Yeah, I saw Yao clearly yelling at someone at the end of the play. My guess is its T-Mac. I think Yao clearly spoke his mind in a moment of passion. I hope nothing is amiss. Things like this does happen in the heat of a battle. Forget the whole thing and get ready for the next game.
T-mac still has not learned how to play with a low-post scorer. He plays much better when there is a defensive center on the court, like Deke.
T-mac could call Kobe up and ask him for advice. At least Kobe won 3 rings with Shaq, so he must know a thing or two.
Or the coaching staff has to come up with a way for both Yao and T-mac to play efficiently.
IROC it
04-01-2007, 10:46 PM
April, you were fools.
It takes more than a 7 man rotation.
It takes 10.
Tfor3
04-01-2007, 10:50 PM
I find the whole sequence hysterical. From Tmac passing to Alston for no reason who takes a stupid 3. Then JVG calls a timeout to set up a play to get a good shot off. And then of course Tmac puzzling all of us here on what the hell he was trying to pull off. He was open in that corner for a second, I don't know why he didn't shoot...
that is the same shot Kobe made to go into ot.
Rafer was so anxious to be the hero, that he did Not scan the court for a higher percentage shot...ie pass the ball to an open Yao rolling to the basket. At the least, Yao ties with 2 fts. :rolleyes:
HTownTmac1
04-01-2007, 10:53 PM
calm down calm down. jazz is no weak compared with rox, let's face it. and they are very very tough and they have done so many times coming from behind in the last few minutes. if rox cannot set up a big lead from the beginning and tmac obviously is not there offensively, no way rox will win. so don't be so disappointed.
lol sorry i didnt mean for it to seem that i was mad at you... i wasent mad at u, its more that im mad that we blew that seven point lead.... just like we almost blew those leads to both LA TEAMS and a Crap load of teams durin the season... I WANT BONZI AND LUTHER BACK IN THE ROTATION
tinman
04-01-2007, 10:54 PM
why is he angry? did some dudes follow him home again?
noize
04-01-2007, 10:57 PM
why is he angry? did some dudes follow him home again?
Who the hell wouldn't be angry after that kind of display of a game? huh???
youyou
04-01-2007, 11:01 PM
lol sorry i didnt mean for it to seem that i was mad at you... i wasent mad at u, its more that im mad that we blew that seven point lead.... just like we almost blew those leads to both LA TEAMS and a Crap load of teams durin the season... I WANT BONZI AND LUTHER BACK IN THE ROTATION
yeah you are right, there is definitely something wrong with our 4th q play. we only won once when behind at the start of 4th q, if i remember correctly.
i don't think there is any hope for bonzi to play for us. but head, please come back. btw, did you see how he was injured? :rolleyes: cannot remember.
ToothYanker
04-01-2007, 11:02 PM
Yeah, I saw Yao clearly yelling at someone at the end of the play. My guess is its T-Mac. I think Yao clearly spoke his mind in a moment of passion. I hope nothing is amiss. Things like this does happen in the heat of a battle. Forget the whole thing and get ready for the next game.
That's not good. Like others have said, Tmac's the type of player who needs to be coddled to excel. Ironically, despite being labeled 'soft' by media idiots, Yao has tremendous mental fortitude and can take a tongue-lashing and use it to make himself a better player. I hope Yao yelling at Tmac doesn't make Tmac sullen and less productive on the court. Tmac was probably really shocked at that type of display coming from Yao. On the otherhand, I love the aggressivness Yao is displaying.
psychicpan
04-01-2007, 11:02 PM
I am not sure. Sorry for my poor English. But sina.com is good,should not lie.
my personal opinion, Chinese citizens should do not believe sina.com at all :D
anyway, it is the most website I hate
psychicpan
04-01-2007, 11:04 PM
somebody start a trade tmac for kevin garnett thread
Why not get KG without trading Tmac
We could use others :cool:
I dream we can have KG and Kidd in our team next season :D
HTownTmac1
04-01-2007, 11:10 PM
yeah you are right, there is definitely something wrong with our 4th q play. we only won once when behind at the start of 4th q, if i remember correctly.
i don't think there is any hope for bonzi to play for us. but head, please come back. btw, did you see how he was injured? :rolleyes: cannot remember.
idk tho, kirk snyder hasnt been playin good and maybe this game is a blessing in disguise because MAYBE Jvg will look at this game and go, "DAMN maybe i need to give that proven vet. guard BONZI another chance" and yeah ur right about that 4q stat on us... but guess whats the funny thing, BONZI played in that game agianst the kings(I still remember that key block he did on the defensive end)
as for luther head, i didnt see how he was injured.. i was confused actually when they said he was injured because i didnt remember seein him get hurt either... he even played in the clips game.. IF LUTHER WAS IN THIS GAME.. i bet that it would of gone diffrent
MacGreat
04-01-2007, 11:22 PM
Yao should look into the mirror and yell to himself for missing his shots and losing the rebounds.
noize
04-01-2007, 11:25 PM
Yao should look into the mirror and yell to himself for missing his shots and losing the rebounds.
Awww...poor t-mac only fan got his feeling hurt b/c his favorite player got yelled at.
rn_xw
04-01-2007, 11:28 PM
I don't trust Sina. They make up stories all the time.
CRayman.Z
04-01-2007, 11:31 PM
I am not sure. Sorry for my poor English. But sina.com is good,should not lie.
This is the funniest joke ever,lol :D :D :D
tinger
04-01-2007, 11:33 PM
I don't trust Sina. They make up stories all the time.
care to give an example? :confused:
MacGreat
04-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Awww...poor t-mac only fan got his feeling hurt b/c his favorite player got yelled at.
ROFL. Tmac only fan? I don't like Yao blame the lost on his teammates. What's wrong with it? I would speak out too if Yao has yelled at Rafer. Before you yelled at your teammates, you'd better ask yourself whether you have played a perfect game or not. What's up with your own missed FTs? What about the rebounds that you should have grabbed? By the way, I have called out the other people who labelled you guys YOFs before. How nice of you to call me a TOF.
chenli
04-01-2007, 11:35 PM
Yao should look into the mirror and yell to himself for missing his shots and losing the rebounds.
Maybe you should look into the mirror and yell to yourself for your stupidity! Can't believe there are people like this...
chenli
04-01-2007, 11:37 PM
ROFL. Tmac only fan? I don't like Yao blame the lost on his teammates. What's wrong with it? I would speak out too if Yao has yelled at Rafer. Before you yelled at your teammates, you'd better ask yourself whether you have played a perfect game or not. What's up with your own missed FTs? What about the rebounds that you should have grabbed? By the way, I have called out the other people who labelled you guys YOFs before. How nice of you to call me a TOF.
You are right! Based on all your posts, you are not a TOF! You are less than that. You are nothing!
MacGreat
04-01-2007, 11:38 PM
Maybe you should look into the mirror and yell to yourself for your stupidity! Can't believe there are people like this...
Right, and your post has proved that you are very intelligent. Good for you.
Tommy
04-01-2007, 11:41 PM
yao just wanted this game so much. you can see that in his eyes.
Tommy
04-01-2007, 11:44 PM
yao indeed yelled at Tmac for that play, but he's not blaming him for the loss. it's that play that got him mad.
Phreak3
04-01-2007, 11:46 PM
let me get this straight, they are feuding because neither one of them wanted the ball? lol. you would have never seen that with shaq and kobe. maybe that's the problem.
pli777
04-01-2007, 11:51 PM
sigh as disppointed as I am right now (completely ruined my day) I guess we still played very well.
At least Easter holiday is coming up :D :rolleyes:
pli777
04-01-2007, 11:52 PM
yao indeed yelled at Tmac for that play, but he's not blaming him for the loss. it's that play that got him mad.
How do you know? You know him personally and have spoken to him since?
rn_xw
04-02-2007, 12:04 AM
care to give an example? :confused:
2004 Olympic game, they gave the opposite score for Women's Volleyball championship game. I think it was 15 10 for China, but they had 10:15 for about 1 hr. They had numerous interviews that never exists according to the Chinese soccer team. Just ask ppl who visits Sina regularly, especially Chinese. I think the rumor was that they were bought by a Japanese Company years ago, and all of the sudden nobody visits the website. Even after it was bought back by Chinese, they have to make up "breaking" news to rise their popularity.
Ask ppl around, if sina is really reliable or not
Luffy1
04-02-2007, 12:08 AM
Yao should look into the mirror and yell to himself for missing his shots and losing the rebounds.
Lol at the tmac only fans. Maybe your boy shouldn't be tbrick and shoot 9-23. The last game against kobe showed how far apart the two really are. Kobe can take over a game in the end, while tmac simply cannot. He's had that one 13 in 35 seconds game, but that's really it.
Chronz
04-02-2007, 12:11 AM
We should be happy about this, someone needs to tell Tmac to get his act together.
demon77
04-02-2007, 12:15 AM
let me get this straight, they are feuding because neither one of them wanted the ball? lol. you would have never seen that with shaq and kobe. maybe that's the problem.
Rox needed a 3 pointer to force OT with 7 sec to go, and the play was design for T-Mac. But T-mac somehow went up for the 3 then pass it to yao with like 2.5 sec left on the clock. (then yao passed back to T-mac for the 3,which turn into an air ball)
tinger
04-02-2007, 12:17 AM
2004 Olympic game, they gave the opposite score for Women's Volleyball championship game. I think it was 15 10 for China, but they had 10:15 for about 1 hr. They had numerous interviews that never exists according to the Chinese soccer team. Just ask ppl who visits Sina regularly, especially Chinese. I think the rumor was that they were bought by a Japanese Company years ago, and all of the sudden nobody visits the website. Even after it was bought back by Chinese, they have to make up "breaking" news to rise their popularity.
Ask ppl around, if sina is really reliable or not
I am Chinese and I browse sina.com a lot.
For all I can tell, sina just often give news exaggerated and misleading titles. But that's what all websites do, right? The only problem I have with sina is that they hire scums like "洛阳花开" to post stupid threads to draw attention and hits.
YaoFanatic
04-02-2007, 12:23 AM
Yao was expecting TMac to shoot it immediately and was angry about TMac being hesitant. It is actually Yao yelling to show he was disappointed at TMac's lack of confidence. That's being a supportive teammate I think and why TMac implicitly agreed by not reacting to being yelled at. In fact, he probably appreciated it.
SuperYanthrax
04-02-2007, 12:39 AM
Awww...poor t-mac only fan got his feeling hurt b/c his favorite player got yelled at.
QFT
McGrady blew the game by passing it back to Yao. He made it so the Rockets didn't even have a chance to shoot; his prayer came after the buzzer. At least Rafer got a good look at the basket and GOT HIS SHOT OFF.
RocketForever
04-02-2007, 12:39 AM
let me get this straight, they are feuding because neither one of them wanted the ball? lol. you would have never seen that with shaq and kobe. maybe that's the problem.
Do you mean Yao should want the ball to score another 2 pts to pad his stats whether we lost the game or not?
Seriously, why would Yao want the ball? We were down by 3 and that would be the last shot of the game. Even the grandma of my buddy knew we needed a miracle last second 3-pter to tie the game. How could Yao do that with the ball under the basket when the Jazz were not going to foul?
big11
04-02-2007, 12:42 AM
Yao should look into the mirror and yell to himself for missing his shots and losing the rebounds.
What the hell is your problem? They yell because they care about winning. They just try to lit a fire under each other's belly. I will start freaking when they stop talking!
SuperYanthrax
04-02-2007, 12:48 AM
ROFL. Tmac only fan? I don't like Yao blame the lost on his teammates. What's wrong with it? I would speak out too if Yao has yelled at Rafer. Before you yelled at your teammates, you'd better ask yourself whether you have played a perfect game or not. What's up with your own missed FTs? What about the rebounds that you should have grabbed? By the way, I have called out the other people who labelled you guys YOFs before. How nice of you to call me a TOF.
What the hell are you talking about? Yao blamed T-Mac for making the silly, game-losing decision to pass the ball back to him, and let him know that he made a bad decision. I remember a playoff game where Yao turned the ball over late, and T-Mac came over to him and yelled at him for like 20 seconds.
If T-Mac is coasting, he'd better stop it. Otherwise.... he's a shadow of his old self. Again.
Yakapo
04-02-2007, 12:48 AM
tmac blew it. it was a mistake.
rafer just sucks. that's who he is. that is why he doesn't feel bad when he goes 0 for 12. He just keeps jacking up shots instead of dumping it in to Yao.
ShadyMcGrady
04-02-2007, 12:50 AM
There's nothing wrong with Yao yelling at T-Mac. Yao was the only one other than Chuck who showed up to play today. T-Mac let himself be shut down by Giricek and Fisher? You've got to be kidding me. I hope he really does step it up BIG TIME in the playoffs because the last few games have been embarrassing from T-Mac's point of view.
I don't know why he hesitated on that first attempt, maybe he wasn't inside the 3 pt. line? Can someone check it out? It happened too fast I couldn't quite see.
Anyways T-Mac doesn't respond as well to criticism as Yao but maybe when it's coming FROM Yao it won't be as bad. Yao had every right to be pissed in my opinion.
big11
04-02-2007, 12:53 AM
What the hell are you talking about? Yao blamed T-Mac for making the silly, game-losing decision to pass the ball back to him, and let him know that he made a bad decision. I remember a playoff game where Yao turned the ball over late, and T-Mac came over to him and yelled at him for like 20 seconds.
If T-Mac is coasting, he'd better stop it. Otherwise.... he's a shadow of his old self. Again.
Exactly right. The two need to push each other harder if we want to win anything at all!
JeopardE
04-02-2007, 01:06 AM
Heh -- I was quite surprised to see everybody piling on Rafer after the game, and nobody talking about T-Mac's inexplicable brain fart at the last second. T-Mac went up for the shot, about 2 seconds left on the clock, then changed his mind mid air and passed to Yao. Yao was like "Dude WTF?" I was on my sofa going -- why the heck did he just do that?
It looks to me like T-Mac doesn't want to take the big shots. Either he doesn't have the confidence to knock them down, or he's still "coasting". His postgame comments reflect the same thing. He refused to take responsibility for that egregious mistake, and instead blamed his teammates (Yao?) for not setting a good screen. And he pretty much said something to the effect of "they're doubling me too hard, I'm not going to take those shots."
T-Mac of two years ago (or even last year) would have never reacted this way. I hope JVG talks some sense into him at practice. This is not right.
tsunami
04-02-2007, 01:10 AM
I wish Yao hadn't done that. TMac is pretty fragile with his ego. Even JVG knows that and that's why JVG seldom criticizes TMac even when he plays horribly.
JeopardE
04-02-2007, 01:12 AM
I wish Yao hadn't done that. TMac is pretty fragile with his ego. Even JVG knows that and that's why JVG seldom criticizes TMac even when he plays horribly.
I'm not buying that nonsense. If T-Mac can't handle 10 seconds of being yelled at by Yao, then he's not fit to be in the NBA.
SuperYanthrax
04-02-2007, 01:13 AM
It looks to me like T-Mac doesn't want to take the big shots. Either he doesn't have the confidence to knock them down, or he's still "coasting". His postgame comments reflect the same thing. He refused to take responsibility for that egregious mistake, and instead blamed his teammates (Yao?) for not setting a good screen. And he pretty much said something to the effect of "they're doubling me too hard, I'm not going to take those shots."
"There was miscommunication on a couple of guys' part," McGrady said of the last possession. "They didn't know where to go and they didn't set screens. I couldn't get open and nobody could get open."
I watched the replay a few times. When Yao handed it to T-Mac, for some reason Rafer and John Lucas/Snyder were also standing right there, so there were 4 Rockets right next to each other and the Jazz players were there too. That's probably the miscommunication he was talking about.
However, he dribbles baseline, and AK/Harpring (dude covering T-Mac) got picked off in the jumble of players, and T-Mac was already in his shooting motion in the corner while his defender was just getting into position, so he had a shot. He should have shot it, it was a 3. Instead he inexplicably passed to Yao, and couldn't get a shot off at the end.
daoshi
04-02-2007, 01:13 AM
why is he angry? did some dudes follow him home again?
He was told that TMac gave his address out, hence those stokers.
JeopardE
04-02-2007, 01:16 AM
However, he dribbles baseline, and AK/Harpring (dude covering T-Mac) got picked off in the jumble of players, and T-Mac was already in his shooting motion in the corner while his defender was just getting into position, so he had a shot. He should have shot it, it was a 3. Instead he inexplicably passed to Yao, and couldn't get a shot off at the end.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. He had the shot, and then refused to take it with 2 seconds left on the clock. And then instead of taking responsibility for the mistake, he's publicly blaming his teammates for botching the screen. Clearly he's pissed because he was planning to pass it off to someone and it didn't work out that way.
T-Mac doesn't want to take the big shot. WHY?
ShadyMcGrady
04-02-2007, 01:26 AM
That's exactly what I'm talking about. He had the shot, and then refused to take it with 2 seconds left on the clock. And then instead of taking responsibility for the mistake, he's publicly blaming his teammates for botching the screen. Clearly he's pissed because he was planning to pass it off to someone and it didn't work out that way.
T-Mac doesn't want to take the big shot. WHY?
Confidence. He knew his shot wasn't on he didn't want to take. It's good in a way but bad in a way.
It's good because he didn't force up some crap and he gave someone who was wide open a look. The bad? That person was Rafer and he was not having a good day shooting.
As for the last play, T-Mac's gotta man up and say "I didn't want to shoot that last shot for whatever reason, I messed up. I made a mistake."
That's much better than "we didn't set screens" etc. Maybe we didn't set the pick right, but he did mess up a last second shot. It was too late to try and give it back to Yao and take another one. He made a mistake, end of story. He's the one who has to admit it, we can all see it.
Oh well. Look forward.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. He had the shot, and then refused to take it with 2 seconds left on the clock. And then instead of taking responsibility for the mistake, he's publicly blaming his teammates for botching the screen. Clearly he's pissed because he was planning to pass it off to someone and it didn't work out that way.
T-Mac doesn't want to take the big shot. WHY?
probably cuz he was hitting iron all game long. still there was a lot more wrong with his decision-making this game than just the last possession. i hope the yelling thing is not true either. its fine to yell, even beat up yourselves in the locker room, but not in public. it makes you look like a douche, of which Dirk is one.
As for the last play, T-Mac's gotta man up and say "I didn't want to shoot that last shot for whatever reason, I messed up. I made a mistake."
That's much better than "we didn't set screens" etc. Maybe we didn't set the pick right, but he did mess up a last second shot. It was too late to try and give it back to Yao and take another one. He made a mistake, end of story. He's the one who has to admit it, we can all see it.
yeah, tmac sounded like a weasel there. just man up and move on.
demon77
04-02-2007, 01:38 AM
probably cuz he was hitting iron all game long. still there was a lot more wrong with his decision-making this game than just the last possession. i hope the yelling thing is not true either. its fine to yell, even beat up yourselves in the locker room, but not in public. it makes you look like a douche, of which Dirk is one.
I guess you didn't see how T-mac yell at yao during the last playoff during a game in which Yao struggle (he had a turnover). And we can carely see t-mac holding yao with both hands on yao's arms talking to him face to face.
yelling at your teammate is perfectly fine imo since they only do it b/c someone really made a stupid play. I recall dirk yelling & throwing his towel during game 6 on the 2004 playoff b/c his teammate didn't foul nash on the last play. (nash forced OT with a 3, and sun won in OT advancing to the WCF)
YaoYoYao
04-02-2007, 01:42 AM
I am Chinese and I browse sina.com a lot.
For all I can tell, sina just often give news exaggerated and misleading titles. But that's what all websites do, right? The only problem I have with sina is that they hire scums like "洛阳花开" to post stupid threads to draw attention and hits.
Like this one? :) ;)
dfoolz
04-02-2007, 01:44 AM
Yell all you want and kick rafer in the a==.
0-100 maybe 0-1000000000000000000
No brain Wafer Losston
NIKEstrad
04-02-2007, 01:45 AM
The last 10 seconds, when yao got the ball, he passed to Tmac, but Tmac passed to him again, yao have to pass to Tmac back. (
[cf.net historical reference]
T-Mac is the anti-Sura. [/cf.net historical reference]
kent_GTI
04-02-2007, 01:51 AM
do you guys play WOW, I always yelling at my teammates, that normal. :cool: :cool:
youyou
04-02-2007, 02:02 AM
I guess you didn't see how T-mac yell at yao during the last playoff during a game in which Yao struggle (he had a turnover). And we can carely see t-mac holding yao with both hands on yao's arms talking to him face to face.
yelling at your teammate is perfectly fine imo since they only do it b/c someone really made a stupid play. I recall dirk yelling & throwing his towel during game 6 on the 2004 playoff b/c his teammate didn't foul nash on the last play. (nash forced OT with a 3, and sun won in OT advancing to the WCF)
if you mean the to of yao in game 6, tmac passed the ball to yao and yao didn't catch and turned the ball over and tmac got a foul when trying to recover the ball, tmac didn't yell at yao at all. he got upset and turned his head to another direction and shouted sth. then when they both went to bench, tmac held yao's shoulder and talked to yao's ear. he said after the game that he encouraged yao.
if you don't mean this one, say which game and when, i will verify if tmac really "yelled" to yao. otherwise, take your stupid words on tmac back.
no matter how great yao played and how stupid he thought the last play was, he has no right to yell at tmac. you recall dirk yelling at teammates so what? is dirk good leader? not even close. a leader is never only about scoring, you need to do a lot on court off court, keep your teammates up. look at nash, look at wade. those are real leaders.
i like this rox very very much. don't tell me our stars are same as dirk or kobe. when team wins, want all focus and appreciation; when team loses, yell at teammates. suck, simply suck.
yaoluv
04-02-2007, 02:14 AM
We need a big motivational assistant coach to yell at t-mac, rafer, and luther whenever they make boneheaded plays like this...
I don't think JVG can earn respect at this role, they will be like wtf little bald white short man, you don't know anything about being a star player...
I recommend Mr. T or possibly UT strength coach:
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/image_lib/madden_jeff_mug_148.jpg
rocketfan.china
04-02-2007, 02:25 AM
but if yao really did this, i dislike his move. tmac played great when yao was out, 20-12, that is why we are having a little hope for home court. ppl shouldn't yell at him for one or two bad games. yao shouldn't either. there were enough games when tmac did great while yao sucked, tmac never yelled to him. on the contrary, tmac always encouraged him, defended him before espn or those stupid haters.
and you guys should see that tmac has been struggling since yao returned. yao returned to lineup, too many things need to be adjusted, all those are jobs for the coach and the playmaker, who is tmac for this rox team. i don't think jvg is good at coaching offensive games, so the load on tmac is huge. be a little patient.
especially you, yao.
As u said, "if yao really did this" which means u arenot quite sure about that so why u made such damn crap, "Especially you yao", come on, tmac sucks tonight that is plain obvious. How come the guys like u bashing Yao when he had such **** night but not tmac by us. What a bias! And do u remember Tracy gave harsh words to Yao at playoff last time? NUFF,I love yao, i love rockets but your post makes me sick. Just speaking for myself, That's all.
rocketfan.china
04-02-2007, 02:33 AM
if you mean the to of yao in game 6, tmac passed the ball to yao and yao didn't catch and turned the ball over and tmac got a foul when trying to recover the ball, tmac didn't yell at yao at all. he got upset and turned his head to another direction and shouted sth. then when they both went to bench, tmac held yao's shoulder and talked to yao's ear. he said after the game that he encouraged yao.
"Encouraged Yao"?!?! If U think this way, i also can say Yao was encouraging Tracy by tracy's encouraging method. Period! no one wanna loss such a crucial game but the way u speak really cannot make me keep calm.
demon77
04-02-2007, 02:35 AM
if you mean the to of yao in game 6, tmac passed the ball to yao and yao didn't catch and turned the ball over and tmac got a foul when trying to recover the ball, tmac didn't yell at yao at all. he got upset and turned his head to another direction and shouted sth. then when they both went to bench, tmac held yao's shoulder and talked to yao's ear. he said after the game that he encouraged yao.
if you don't mean this one, say which game and when, i will verify if tmac really "yelled" to yao. otherwise, take your stupid words on tmac back.
no matter how great yao played and how stupid he thought the last play was, he has no right to yell at tmac. you recall dirk yelling at teammates so what? is dirk good leader? not even close. a leader is never only about scoring, you need to do a lot on court off court, keep your teammates up. look at nash, look at wade. those are real leaders.
i like this rox very very much. don't tell me our stars are same as dirk or kobe. when team wins, want all focus and appreciation; when team loses, yell at teammates. suck, simply suck.
yeah was refering to that one. I know that wasn't really "yelling" as in a negative way, but its pretty much the same case here.
Why doesn't yao get the right to yell at T-mac for that last play? Yao was forced to play 40 min b/c T-mac and the rest of the team didn't step up. And when we get a chance to tie the game, T-mac simply didn't have the gut to take the shot. There is no excuse for it, he should have take the shot. T-mac is a superstar and get paid the most, he should take the blame for that last shot.
As for dirk, I think he's a great leader b/c hes competitve, and have that strong desire to win.
JeopardE
04-02-2007, 02:42 AM
Heck -- at least Yao is man enough to own up whenever he screws up (even if he isn't prompted).
rocketfan.china
04-02-2007, 02:47 AM
Heck -- at least Yao is man enough to own up whenever he screws up (even if he isn't prompted).
EXACTLY
Heck -- at least Yao is man enough to own up whenever he screws up (even if he isn't prompted).
true.
rocketsmetalspd
04-02-2007, 09:09 AM
I don't care who yells at who as long as they can get back on the right track starting Wednesday. As the schedule goes that last game in Utah may still be for the Home Court.
ROFL. Tmac only fan? I don't like Yao blame the lost on his teammates. What's wrong with it? I would speak out too if Yao has yelled at Rafer. Before you yelled at your teammates, you'd better ask yourself whether you have played a perfect game or not. What's up with your own missed FTs? What about the rebounds that you should have grabbed? By the way, I have called out the other people who labelled you guys YOFs before. How nice of you to call me a TOF.
Right... 35/16/4 is not a good game. I wonder what is then. Yao had every right to yell at Rafer or T-mac, because both of them were horrible that game. Missing FT's. Are you kidding me? Yao shot 15 of the 23 total freethrows we had, and made more than anybody else combined. T-mac shot 2 FTs the whole game... 2! That's not even remotely acceptable for a player of his caliber. T-mac should not have passed to Rafer for the 2nd to last play, nor should he have passed to Yao after getting a clean look on the base line.
I like the emotions that Yao was displaying on the court. I would be pissed too, if I had carried my team for almost 4Q, and then to have it collapse b/c of stupid decisions on the court.
You know what? I will bet Yao can make that 3pt shot......he is a good shooter.
I would rather Yao take it than Rafer.
DD
Yao can make that shot. I remember Hakeem made a three pointer during the playoffs in 95 and though Hakeem is so far and away the better player, Dream wishes he had a shot like Yao. ;)
why is he angry? did some dudes follow him home again?
LOL!
Now that made me giggle.
psychicpan
04-02-2007, 09:19 AM
who is "洛阳花开"?
I have heard this dude a lot.....
if you mean the to of yao in game 6, tmac passed the ball to yao and yao didn't catch and turned the ball over and tmac got a foul when trying to recover the ball, tmac didn't yell at yao at all. he got upset and turned his head to another direction and shouted sth. then when they both went to bench, tmac held yao's shoulder and talked to yao's ear. he said after the game that he encouraged yao.
if you don't mean this one, say which game and when, i will verify if tmac really "yelled" to yao. otherwise, take your stupid words on tmac back.
no matter how great yao played and how stupid he thought the last play was, he has no right to yell at tmac. you recall dirk yelling at teammates so what? is dirk good leader? not even close. a leader is never only about scoring, you need to do a lot on court off court, keep your teammates up. look at nash, look at wade. those are real leaders.
i like this rox very very much. don't tell me our stars are same as dirk or kobe. when team wins, want all focus and appreciation; when team loses, yell at teammates. suck, simply suck.
I'm not exactly sure if Wade is an example you would want to draw comparisons to. Fact is there is no one to yell at by Wade, because he's almost always the one with the ball. Its not like if he makes a bad decision he's going to slap himself for it.
And no, t-mac is not a good leader. If you can find me an example where he actually took his team to another level throughout all his years in the NBA, I would be glad to be corrected. But from what I recall, T-mac has never led his team past the first round, he was part of one of the longest losing streaks ever in the Magic franchise, and he quit on his team in Orlando. Now if that exemplifies what it takes to be a good leader, then I have nothing to say.
If T-Mac goes off on the next opponent, someone spoke to him. If not, we might have to worry a wee bit...maybe more than a wee bit.
Got plenty of time off to rest and get that broke back some rest.
roxfan123
04-02-2007, 09:33 AM
ROFL. Tmac only fan? I don't like Yao blame the lost on his teammates. What's wrong with it? I would speak out too if Yao has yelled at Rafer. Before you yelled at your teammates, you'd better ask yourself whether you have played a perfect game or not. What's up with your own missed FTs? What about the rebounds that you should have grabbed? By the way, I have called out the other people who labelled you guys YOFs before. How nice of you to call me a TOF.
If you are really a Tmac fan you should criticize Tmac in the first time. Critics don't like you a less Tmac fan or less supportive. This loss was clearly not Yao's fault. Not his late 4th quarter miss or his FT. Hayes was the other guy who could not be blamed for the defeat. Tmac, the other superstar, should take most of the blame. A fan with a little bit of commom sense could see that. And instead you nippick Yao's rebound and FT after he got 16 and made 15 FT. How about Tmac showed a little bit effort and made it to 11-24 and we could have won the game? How about took over as a leader when Yao sit on the bench, instead of letting Jzs go 7-0 and forcing Yao to come back in less than 2 mins? Or draw a couple of fouls and actually made some FT instead of 0-2? How about shut the F up with "this is all about a statement" crap and play a damn good game?
marciagong
04-02-2007, 09:47 AM
who is "洛阳花开"?
I have heard this dude a lot.....
He is a YOH who posts an article after every rox game, you can basically divide the stuff he writes into 4 categories:
1. YAO did well, ROX won--YAO has nothing to do with the win, his teammates did everything
2. YAO did well, ROX lost-- YAO sucked, cannot help his team.
3. YAO did not do well, ROX won--YAO sucked, he's useless, rox can win without him
4. YAO did not do well, ROX lost-- YAO sucked, he makes his team even worse, blame the lost all on him.
He's even come up with some bullsxxt when YAO got injured and not played.
Need I say more.
psychicpan
04-02-2007, 09:54 AM
He is a YOH who posts an article after every rox game, you can basically divide the stuff he writes into 4 categories:
1. YAO did well, ROX won--YAO has nothing to do with the win, his teammates did everything
2. YAO did well, ROX lost-- YAO sucked, cannot help his team.
3. YAO did not do well, ROX won--YAO sucked, he's useless, rox can win without him
4. YAO did not do well, ROX lost-- YAO sucked, he makes his team even worse, blame the lost all on him.
He's even come up with some bullsxxt when YAO got injured and not played.
Need I say more.
the most laughable joke ;)
Tameway
04-02-2007, 10:11 AM
Losing a pivotal game could get everybody being angry. So was Tmac, I believe. Never mind and Go ahead!
whoisray
04-02-2007, 10:11 AM
PAGING Pryuen
blazer_ben
04-02-2007, 10:19 AM
Oh if yao dosent show any-emotion, he is a big softie, if our big lion show's any kind of reaction after tracy's blunder, he is a big meanie. :rolleyes: . seriousely.
I think it's a great sign. Shows leadership and emotion. big fella cares. tracy would be the first one to appreciate that.
DaDakota
04-02-2007, 10:20 AM
Oh if yao dosent show any-emotion, he is a big softie, if our big lion show's any kind of reaction after tracy's blunder, he is a big meanie. :rolleyes: . seriousely.
I think it's a great sign. Shows leadership and emotion. big fella cares. tracy would be the first one to appreciate that.
HECKS YA !!!!!!!
I love how Yao Ming is developing into a killer out there......we need more of it.
Tmac can't lead anyone, he is a great talent but a horrid leader.....let's let Yao lead......
BRING on the year of the YAO !
DD
2rings
04-02-2007, 10:20 AM
This thread has devolved into one of about 10,000 other non-productive threads on this topic. It's really easy to get guys. The Rox need Yao and T-Mac playing a top form to do anything meaningful in the playoffs. Don't kid yourself, they know this better than anyone. These guys should be emotional and get on each other every now and then. they need to hold themselves collectively resposnible for the Rox's success and failures. They are the leaders.
blazer_ben
04-02-2007, 10:25 AM
HECKS YA !!!!!!!
I love how Yao Ming is developing into a killer out there......we need more of it.
Tmac can't lead anyone, he is a great talent but a horrid leader.....let's let Yao lead......
BRING on the year of the YAO !
DD
Personally i would be more disspointed if yao had kept quiet. the likes of jordan, shaq, Olauwon and co never tolerated losing. the great ones have that will to win. yao is showing the same drive. i say great.
Complaining about Tracy McGrady making a bad decision is like complaining about Michael Jordan missing a shot. It happens, even at the end of a game. It just happens less often to him than to anybody else.
I'm not making excuses for the rest of his performance. But that's where the game was lost, not at the end. If you're begging for a 3-pointer to tie on your last possession, you've already done too many things wrong.
jordan_123
04-02-2007, 10:49 AM
hahahaha you guys make me laugh.when t-mac and deke were yelling at each other on the bench,you blame t-mac for that,saying things like a great leader should not do that.t-mac was wrong ,he has to keep his calm,etc .but now that it's yao yelling at t-mac(which i don't believe was the case) ,its all good because yao is showing leadership and he has the right to yell at t-mac?i think that even if deke yell at t-mac or anyone else yelled except rafer ,it would have been fine with you but t-mac should not,who does he think he is.personally i don't think there is no problem with people yelling.yao was upset he has the right to yell at t-mac,t-mac is upset he has rthe right to yell at whoever.what i want to know is how is it right for yao to yell and that t-mac should just shut up and play?
Complaining about Tracy McGrady making a bad decision is like complaining about Michael Jordan missing a shot. It happens, even at the end of a game. It just happens less often to him than to anybody else.
I'm not making excuses for the rest of his performance. But that's where the game was lost, not at the end. If you're begging for a 3-pointer to tie on your last possession, you've already done too many things wrong.
Well t-mac did do too many things wrong up and including the last shot. If he was more aggressive to begin with, we would of never had only an 8 point lead. His reluctance to drive is killing me.
Believe
04-02-2007, 11:17 AM
YES !!!
Which is why JVG never.....NEVER yells at Tmac....his ego is so fricken fragile it isn't funny.
Tmac needs coddling, apparently.
DD
It is so amazing that normally when someone criticizes "TRACY" most of you fools, oh sorry, I mean you true Rocket fans, bash these people for their opinions.
I have brought up questions concerning "TRACYS" attitude and overall play for a while. BASH BASH BASH...
I sure hope he is more consistent come playoff time. Until then...
Thanks for the free laughs.
bluepart
04-02-2007, 11:18 AM
ROFL. Tmac only fan? I don't like Yao blame the lost on his teammates. What's wrong with it? I would speak out too if Yao has yelled at Rafer. Before you yelled at your teammates, you'd better ask yourself whether you have played a perfect game or not. What's up with your own missed FTs? What about the rebounds that you should have grabbed? By the way, I have called out the other people who labelled you guys YOFs before. How nice of you to call me a TOF.
Your name speaks of your thought, a least at the surface.
Anyway, it seems like Tmac complain teammate instead in the conference:
"There was miscommunication on a couple of guys' part," McGrady said of the last possession. "They didn't know where to go and they didn't set screens. I couldn't get open and nobody could get open."
Well, this is T-Mac and Rafer's fault to lose this game, no execute. But that's ok, admit it and perform better next time. Don't behave like a loser.
DaDakota
04-02-2007, 11:19 AM
hahahaha you guys make me laugh.when t-mac and deke were yelling at each other on the bench,you blame t-mac for that,saying things like a great leader should not do that.t-mac was wrong ,he has to keep his calm,etc .but now that it's yao yelling at t-mac(which i don't believe was the case) ,its all good because yao is showing leadership and he has the right to yell at t-mac?i think that even if deke yell at t-mac or anyone else yelled except rafer ,it would have been fine with you but t-mac should not,who does he think he is.personally i don't think there is no problem with people yelling.yao was upset he has the right to yell at t-mac,t-mac is upset he has rthe right to yell at whoever.what i want to know is how is it right for yao to yell and that t-mac should just shut up and play?
Both of them should be driving the team, I have no problem whatsoever if they both step up and discuss what ANYONE on the team needs to do to get better.
DD
DaDakota
04-02-2007, 11:20 AM
It is so amazing that normally when someone criticizes "TRACY" most of you fools, oh sorry, I mean you true Rocket fans, bash these people for their opinions.
I have brought up questions concerning "TRACYS" attitude and overall play for a while. BASH BASH BASH...
I sure hope he is more consistent come playoff time. Until then...
Thanks for the free laughs.
Welcome to my world !!!
:D
DD
jordan_123
04-02-2007, 11:26 AM
Both of them should be driving the team, I have no problem whatsoever if they both step up and discuss what ANYONE on the team needs to do to get better.
DD
the point that i'm making is that both have the right to yell,what i don't understand is why t-mac cannot yell and yao can.you should ask that to the other people not me.i don't have any problem with both yelling.jordan did it,wade and payton went at it ,dirk did it,it's ok to do it but hell why this double standard
fifman
04-02-2007, 11:58 AM
yao indeed yelled at Tmac for that play, but he's not blaming him for the loss. it's that play that got him mad.
Completely agree! Actually he blamed himself after match. He is not a man to say "who did something wrong to make us lose" but "I or we did something wrong"
RHU525
04-02-2007, 12:10 PM
WHY WAS YAO EVEN IN THE GAME DOWN BY 3???
where the hell is NOVAK???
leebigez
04-02-2007, 12:24 PM
If they really wanted T-Mac to shoot, why not just run the usual high pick and roll at the top of the key. Better yet, why not get the quick 2 and play the foul game? Well if JVG would burn to's whn teams go on a 6-2 run then maybe we would have to's. It doesnt matter its just part of it. Tracy and Yao will get over it. Dont throw brick when you live in a glass house though.
Mordo
04-02-2007, 12:24 PM
WHY WAS YAO EVEN IN THE GAME DOWN BY 3???
where the hell is NOVAK???
Novak! Our savior! Bench Yao!
DaDakota
04-02-2007, 12:27 PM
Novak! Our savior! Bench Yao!
With 2.8 seconds left down by 3, he has a point, put in 5 guys capable of making the 3.....
DD
wireonfire
04-02-2007, 12:36 PM
Complaining about Tracy McGrady making a bad decision is like complaining about Michael Jordan missing a shot. It happens, even at the end of a game. It just happens less often to him than to anybody else.
I'm not making excuses for the rest of his performance. But that's where the game was lost, not at the end. If you're begging for a 3-pointer to tie on your last possession, you've already done too many things wrong.
It is not complaining about the missing shot AT ALL. You are totally missing the point. Tmac made a bad decision to pull out and reset when time was running out. He must be having second thoughts when he could have launched the first time. Had he missed on that first opportunity, I don't think Yao would have be pissed at him. Even he did, most people here won't be on his side, because no one expects a player to make a last second shot all the time. That is not even expected from Jordan or Miller.
pdiddy
04-02-2007, 12:50 PM
This game helped prove the importance of someone like Luther Head. Tmac needs that threat to help alleviate some of the double teaming. I am not saying that Luther Head is our "savior", but he could have changed the dynamic of that play and the game. He is the third scorer on this team right now. Even after all of that we almost won the game. I thought it was a good defensive effort, but we just couldn't make shots.
doublehh03
04-02-2007, 01:10 PM
tmac lost us this game.
but seriously, is that the best play we can draw up at the end of the game? why not screen for him at the top and let him rise up and shoot from the top rather than fading away from the baseline? JVG is horrible.
but player-wise, tmac lost us this game. i have never seen him play this horrible w/o impacting much in any aspect of the game. usually, his passing would be dominating if his shot is not. none was on display last night. VERY VERY disappointing performance from tmac.
w/ that said, yao and the other big men DID NOT rebound at all much of the 4th and the pick and roll D was horrible. and yao did miss that layup that would push the lead to 6 rather than stay at 4 and jazz cut it to two.
the biggest culprit for the game was tmac. he was invisible. but he was 2-4 in the 4th and i was wondering why we kept going to yao when obviously he was tired and didn't have any lift on his shots, even layups.
metalshred
04-02-2007, 01:37 PM
I don't see any point of discussing how to hit the final 3s in the last 10 seconds to draw or make a win. I think it would be more interesting if we discuss about how to avoid this type of situation, and play well through out the game, instead of making countless mistakes in the game plan, ball movement and searching for a saviour in the final seconds.
metalshred
04-02-2007, 01:42 PM
WHY WAS YAO EVEN IN THE GAME DOWN BY 3???
where the hell is NOVAK???
Chill out, it's just one game. Even if someone hits the 3 this time, who's gonna hit it next time? Take it easy. I believe the Rox will learn a lesson from this game, good luck, and work hard my Rox. Cuz u can do it, and you know it. We all do.
YallMean
04-02-2007, 02:02 PM
probably cuz he was hitting iron all game long. still there was a lot more wrong with his decision-making this game than just the last possession. i hope the yelling thing is not true either. its fine to yell, even beat up yourselves in the locker room, but not in public. it makes you look like a douche, of which Dirk is one.
We didnt lose the game because of that last play. Tmac is a momentum shooter.
doublehh03
04-02-2007, 02:05 PM
We didnt lose the game because of that last play. Tmac is a momentum shooter.
which is why i say why didn't we go to tmac more after that alley-oop in the 4th? yao scored only 4 pts in the 4th b/c he was tired. not his fault. but mac was fresh.
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