ClutchFans - Texans need a slight uniform change

unodostres

03-24-2007, 12:58 PM

I love the Battle Red jerseys.

We are 4-2 with the battle red jerseys. In comparison, we have sucked for every other game over the past five years. Its common sense to make that the official uniform. Helps bring in a new era of winning.

Then again we play most of those games against jacksonville.

rhino17

03-24-2007, 01:02 PM

I think the Battle Red Jerseys should be their primary jerseys.

Aceshigh7

03-24-2007, 01:25 PM

They need to change to something like this.

Man I love those uniforms.

Oilers forever.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/07/26/moon0723/t1_moon2.jpg

arkoe

03-24-2007, 01:28 PM

They need to retire #8.

DonnyMost

03-24-2007, 01:29 PM

I always hated the unis.

They need a RED color scheme (houston's color is RED)

and they need the letter "H" or "T" more highly represented.

dumb bull head.

weslinder

03-24-2007, 01:41 PM

They need to change to something like this.

Man I love those uniforms.

Oilers forever.

I want this one:
http://static.zoovy.com/img/helmethead2/H180/earl_campbell_5x.jpg

The Texans should change the "Deep Steel Blue" to Columbia Blue and go to white helmets. It's the best looking uniform combination ever.

JunkyardDwg

03-24-2007, 02:40 PM

I hate the home (or is it road) unis; white top and blue pants...it just looks way to red, white and blue..blah. The battle reds are the best.

percicles

03-24-2007, 02:44 PM

might as well rename them in the process. Houston Texans is so redundant.

DonnyMost

03-24-2007, 02:47 PM

As much as everybody on this board claims to miss the Oilers, nobody sure as sh*t cared whenever they left...

B-ball freak

03-24-2007, 02:58 PM

I always liked the idea of changing the uniforms/helmets to a metallic gunmetal gray, keeping the red white and blue for the logo, jersey, and accents. I loved the logo but the dark blue, with red and white is just a played out color scheme.

v3.0

03-24-2007, 03:03 PM

I still think other fans around the NFL still laugh at us for our name.

WhoMikeJames

03-24-2007, 03:13 PM

It should be...

Home Jersey: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/HOU_3545.gif

Away Jersey:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/HOU_3546.gif

Third Jersey:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/HOU_3547.GIF

VesceySux

03-24-2007, 03:22 PM

might as well rename them in the process. Houston Texans is so redundant.

I agree. Houston Houstonians would be a badass name!! :)

Aceshigh7

03-24-2007, 03:42 PM

As much as everybody on this board claims to miss the Oilers, nobody sure as sh*t cared whenever they left...

That's not true in my case. I was mad as hell when they left. I hate Lanier for that.

Cannonball

03-24-2007, 04:01 PM

I still think other fans around the NFL still laugh at us for our name.

Is it really any sillier than the Wizards, Phillies, or Nationals? We've been in the league for 5 years. Most people don't bother thinking about whether a name makes sense or not. The Jazz should have changed their name when they moved but people are so used to the "Utah Jazz" that they really don't think about it anymore. Sure, some whiny little nitpickers do but most people don't care.

Shroopy2

03-24-2007, 05:45 PM

The "Texans" team name has slightly historical significance. The Dallas Texans was a reasonably successful AFL franchise in the early 60's. They moved to Kansas City and of course became the Kansas City Chiefs. Dont think it was just being drab and going with something like New York New Yorkans, or Illinois (fighting) Illini.

I always thought the all-white unis were pretty sharp and wished they'd go with that more. I'm satisfied with what they have now though. If they'da won a lot more games in their existence, or drafted Reggie Bush or Vince Young for the jersey sales, the unis wouldnt be an issue at all.

msn

03-24-2007, 05:45 PM

They need to change to something like this.

Man I love those uniforms.

Oilers forever.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/07/26/moon0723/t1_moon2.jpg
Oh, man, I agree. I *still* love Columbia Blue.

TheFreak

03-24-2007, 08:47 PM

As much as everybody on this board claims to miss the Oilers, nobody sure as sh*t cared whenever they left...

AMEN.

Mr. Clutch

03-24-2007, 09:00 PM

As much as everybody on this board claims to miss the Oilers, nobody sure as sh*t cared whenever they left...

LOL, true. And that Columbia blue is associated with some of the biggest chokejobs in the history of sports.

Lynus302

03-24-2007, 09:15 PM

The "Texans" team name has slightly historical significance. The Dallas Texans was a reasonably successful AFL franchise in the early 60's. They moved to Kansas City and of course became the Kansas City Chiefs.
There was another incarnation of the Dallas Texan's that became the Baltimore (now Indy) colts.

FWIW, I like the name. If they had gone with some silly animal name or something, I'd be pissed. IMO, Texas has enough history and pride to name a team after themselves. Just my opinion.

redgoose

03-24-2007, 09:16 PM

might as well rename them in the process. Houston Texans is so redundant.

Agreed. I really thought they could have come up with a more creative name. I'm proud to live in Texas. However, from a marketing view, i think we isolate fans from every other state by calling ourselves the Houston Texans.

Every NFL fan has a couple other teams he occasionally roots for. I would find it harder to root for teams called the Oakland Californians, Philadelphia Pennsylvanians, or Miami Floridians. It would only make a tad more sense if we actually drafted more people from Texas...like Vince Young! :confused:

As for the uniforms, i always thought the bottom one whomikejames posted looks an awful like the Denver Broncos uniform. I still like that one second best to the battle red. Seems everyone loves the battle red jerseys.

JunkyardDwg

03-24-2007, 09:37 PM

Agreed. I really thought they could have come up with a more creative name. I'm proud to live in Texas. However, from a marketing view, i think we isolate fans from every other state by calling ourselves the Houston Texans.

Every NFL fan has a couple other teams he occasionally roots for. I would find it harder to root for teams called the Oakland Californians, Philadelphia Pennsylvanians, or Miami Floridians. It would only make a tad more sense if we actually drafted more people from Texas...like Vince Young! :confused:

Philadelphia Phillies... sounds fine to me.

I much prefer Houston Texans to Houston Stallions or Mustangs or whatever the hell they were thinking of naming the team.

JuLiO-R-

03-24-2007, 10:30 PM

Houston Texans sounds good. Imo the name only sounds bad because of how bad we've been on the field.

When people hear Texans they automatically associate the name with:

Losing, Sacks, No Reggie Bush, No Vince Young

As for the jerseys I love the Battle Red and all white. The blue to me is boring and it shouldn't be the primary color. Like Faos said, it's linked to losing. Reminds me too much of the old Rockets jerseys.

Storm Surge

03-24-2007, 10:34 PM

the problem is texans does not follow the theme we have going on with space.

v3.0

03-24-2007, 10:39 PM

Houston Mosquitoes. We will annoy the hell out of your team and just might pass something on to you.

Space Theme: The Houston Asteroids...the Raging Roids for nickname

rimrocker

03-24-2007, 10:45 PM

the problem is texans does not follow the theme we have going on with space.

Wormholes?

Parsecs?

Dwarf Stars?

Globular Clusters?

Sunspots?

Mr. Clutch

03-24-2007, 10:46 PM

the problem is texans does not follow the theme we have going on with space.

I remember Houston Apollos was in the running to be the team name.

redgoose

03-24-2007, 10:50 PM

We could go sci-fi channel space theme on the league.

The Houston Stargate Program!
The best players would be designated SG-1. The O-Line could be designated Stargate Atlantis. Since they're never there and not that good :(

Or maybe The Houston BattleStar Galactica!

Or The Houston Deathstar! :cool:

I'd go with Deathstar...... :)

bchapman101

03-24-2007, 10:51 PM

I think they need to either go with the all white uniforms that debuted last year or the red tops. Get rid of the blue...it's linked to a lot of losing.

AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! EXACTLY!!!! my friend and I have been saying that from the beginning, that the uniform sucks and that all white would look good, and how when the Oilers wore all white they looked cool.

All blue for road games would be cool to.

rhino17

03-24-2007, 11:01 PM

I remember Houston Apollos was in the running to be the team name.

I like that much better than the "Texans". At least Apollos would go with the whole space theme and it is less lame than the Texans. I actually had an argument with Jon Clayton from ESPN about this on an airplane. He supported the name Texans and claimed it could also fit with other states such as Sacramento Californians or Honolulu Hawians. He sounded like an idiot

leroy420

03-25-2007, 10:00 AM

I personally liked the all blue unis the best.

There is nothing wrong with "Texans" as the name. Some of you convientely forget the pain the Oilers caused many many many times.

B-ball freak

03-25-2007, 10:19 AM

Wormholes?

Parsecs?

Dwarf Stars?

Globular Clusters?

Sunspots?

As hard as they have sucked - the Black Holes.

DonnyMost

03-25-2007, 10:45 AM

the Houston Apollos would have been a little too ethnic.

i hate the steel blue and i hate the stupid bull.

too late to change the latter, unfortunately.

Aceshigh7

03-25-2007, 11:07 AM

Too ethnic? :confused:

JunkyardDwg

03-25-2007, 11:10 AM

the problem is texans does not follow the theme we have going on with space.

And Oiler's did?

How bout the Dynamo?

Or the Aeros?

v3.0

03-25-2007, 11:14 AM

Too ethnic? :confused:
I was thinking he meant Apollo Creed or Apollo Theatre

Funny, 2 names we were considering were the Stallions and Apollos.

Kam

03-25-2007, 01:04 PM

how do they wear all blue on the road when home tems wear dark shirts, most of the time.

i dont like monocromatic schemes.

Cannonball

03-25-2007, 02:28 PM

And Oiler's did?

How bout the Dynamo?

Or the Aeros?

And I'm 50/50 on the Rockets just because they just kept the name when the moved from San Diego. It wasn't intentional but yeah, it fits with the Astros.

It's funny that nobody thinks about the Comets anymore. :D Not really. :(

1Bowler

03-25-2007, 06:30 PM

I always hated the unis.

They need a RED color scheme (houston's color is RED)

and they need the letter "H" or "T" more highly represented.

dumb bull head.
it's a toro dumb@$$

kaleidosky

03-25-2007, 06:46 PM

As much as everybody on this board claims to miss the Oilers, nobody sure as sh*t cared whenever they left...

Let's stay away from the generalizations. I went to the supposed last game the year before they left and then the last game the year they left.. got Del Greco's autograph at one of them. Stayed late after the final game.. hmm got Chris Sanders' (the next badass receiver, you know) autograph too. And yeah, followed the team until the Texans came around.

But all I miss are the colors, the name, the song...the players have retired, the coaches have moved on (well, almost), etc.

So I'm good with the Texans. But yes, I definitely cared when they left

On the thread topic...I'd be for it only because the first image when I think of a Texans white uniform is DC #8.. so if he's so identifiable to me w/that one, let's steer away from it ;)

Shroopy2

03-25-2007, 06:56 PM

Never considered how the name Texans isolates the team, that makes sense... Much better than the Apollos though. Sounds too minor league

There's been a few people over here in California including my manager when I mentioned the Texans being my team they've either said oh okay new team huh (during their first year), or their uniforms look nice. I'm down for a slight change like the one's mentioned just for the sake of changing, but its not like opinions of the current uni's from non-Texans fans have been bad.

Cannonball

03-25-2007, 07:17 PM

Never considered how the name Texans isolates the team, that makes sense... Much better than the Apollos though. Sounds too minor league

That was my biggest arguement against the name when they chose it. I'm way over that now. The name is fine. At the time I was a proponent of the Houston Hurricaines and a Red/White/Black color scheme.

I never liked Apollos. I think the whole "It has to continue the space theme" is ridiculous. The only team who used NASA as inspiration were the Astros. I'm not neccesarily opposed to a "space" name, I just thought the name Apollos sucked and didn't want to settle just because it had a space connection.

Mustangs/Stallions or whatever the other finalist was is just too generic to even really be considered.

Anyway, changing the unis 5 years in is stupid. I don't want to be one of these teams that changes their unis every 4-5 years. The only change I would make is to always wear white pants (instead of blue) with the white jerseys.

BigSherv

03-25-2007, 07:44 PM

I think we got the best unis in the nfl!

DonnyMost

03-25-2007, 08:01 PM

Let's stay away from the generalizations.

Lets not.

In the large scheme of things, no one cared.

v3.0

03-25-2007, 09:12 PM

Lets not.

In the large scheme of things, no one cared.
No one cared about the owner...

Nice Rollin

03-25-2007, 09:26 PM

they need to be called the "oilers"

Nice Rollin

03-25-2007, 09:27 PM

I think we got the best unis in the nfl!
sorry. i'll go with the niners on that one

Storm Surge

03-25-2007, 09:34 PM

Houston Cosmos

weslinder

03-25-2007, 09:46 PM

If we're debating the name again, it should have been the 36ers. But compared to Apollos and Stallions, Texans is pretty good.

EddieWasSnubbed

03-25-2007, 09:53 PM

Houston Cosmos
Yeah! A big picture of Kramer would suffice for the logo.

David Carr would have fit the team nickname then.

IROC it

03-25-2007, 10:17 PM

The "Texans" team name has slightly historical significance. The Dallas Texans was a reasonably successful AFL franchise in the early 60's. They moved to Kansas City and of course became the Kansas City Chiefs.

Ahh, you forget the Houston Texans of the 1974-75 World Football League (they were only in Houston for 11 games).

The one with the big green and gold, lower case "h" on the state of Texas as the logo.

They were later the Shreveport Steamer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shreveport_Steamer)...

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8409/74texansgo8.gif

For what it's worth, My submission to the NFL2002 name contest was the Houston Generals, with the Sam Houston silhouette in the logo, on a red, black, silver and white color scheme...

Cannonball

03-25-2007, 11:08 PM

If we're debating the name again, it should have been the 36ers. But compared to Apollos and Stallions, Texans is pretty good.

Ehh. The Sixers and Niners are enough. How much would it suck if there were a plethora of ##'er teams. Besides, the Mexicans would get offended and protest.

david_rocket

03-26-2007, 12:35 AM

Ehh. The Sixers and Niners are enough. How much would it suck if there were a plethora of ##'er teams. Besides, the Mexicans would get offended and protest.

I didnt get offended, I know other mexican people didnt get offended by that, the only person who get offended was the "spokesperson" of the mexican people in houston.

Smokey

03-26-2007, 12:42 AM

Bring back the Gamblers!

ryan17wagner

03-26-2007, 02:56 AM

Tight White is the best uniform color scheme....

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ima_drummer2k

03-26-2007, 08:26 AM

I like our home uniforms a lot, but it would be nice if we would actually wear them every once in a while...

weslinder

03-26-2007, 08:58 AM

Besides, the Mexicans would get offended and protest.

Yeah, I don't understand that. Do the British get offended and protest the Patriots?

msn

03-26-2007, 10:01 AM

Lets not.

In the large scheme of things, no one cared.
I disagree. I lived in the Houston area at the time, and the beef was with Bud Adams, not the Oilers. Folks were *bent* that our team was moving to Nashville.

MadMax

03-26-2007, 10:04 AM

I disagree. I lived in the Houston area at the time, and the beef was with Bud Adams, not the Oilers. Folks were *bent* that our team was moving to Nashville.

that's my memory of it, too. people were in disbelief. they didn't believe he'd move. he had threatened before...and after all, we were still paying the interest on the loans to improve the Dome that kept him from leaving just a few years before that.

then you look up and he signs an exclusive agreement to negotitate only with Nashville. it was too late. there was never a referendum here. the people never got a say.

but for 8 straight years before they became lame-duck, they sold out the Astrodome at 110% capacity. this was reason #1 in the Oilers' Coopers & Lybrand prepared report of WHY they needed a new stadium to begin with.

Groogrux

03-26-2007, 11:15 AM

Yeah, I don't understand that. Do the British get offended and protest the Patriots?

Not exactly the same thing. If the Patriots fan base had a lot of people who were born in England when the team was named, it might be a better comparison.

AggieDentist

03-26-2007, 11:33 AM

what are the NFL rules with regards to uniform changes and adding alternate unis?

in the MLB, you have to wait a minimum number of years before you can change your logo and sh1t, and in the NBA, it's something similar. in addition, the NBA had this rule limiting the number of times you could wear a retro/hardwood throwback jersey.

it would seem to be a big boon for profits if the Texans came out with another uni.

speaking of which - why don't the Rockets have an alternate road jersey (black) yet?

Creepy Crawl

03-26-2007, 11:53 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/HOU_3547.GIF

These are by far my favorites . I loved the way the team looked wearing them last year . If they have to wear the blue all the time as their dark jersey , stick with solid blue .

Rocket River

03-26-2007, 12:14 PM

Rocket River

03-26-2007, 12:16 PM

Red and Mustard . .. like the old Rockets Uniforms

Rocket River

DonnyMost

03-26-2007, 12:46 PM

I disagree. I lived in the Houston area at the time, and the beef was with Bud Adams, not the Oilers. Folks were *bent* that our team was moving to Nashville.

Do you remember the ill-fated "save our oilers" rally?

For a city so *bent* out of shape.. people sure did take it lying down.

pgabriel

03-26-2007, 12:51 PM

Do you remember the ill-fated "save our oilers" rally?

For a city so *bent* out of shape.. people sure did take it lying down.

unlike people in cleveland, houstoninans have lives and are not going to go to some rally to save a team. also, I don't think people realized how much they would miss a team until they lost one.

why do you think the rockets got a new arena? you can argue because they won but losing the oilers really helped the astros and rockets get new stadiums.

ima_drummer2k

03-26-2007, 12:54 PM

Do you remember the ill-fated "save our oilers" rally?

For a city so *bent* out of shape.. people sure did take it lying down.
Yes, it was at City Hall...at 10am....on a Tuesday morning...and it was not publicized AT ALL beforehand. Seeing it on the news later that day was the first most Oiler fans (myself included) even knew there was supposed to be a rally.

Of course, ESPN and the rest of the national media were there to see it. They were probably tipped off beforehand. Almost as if the whole thing was setup to go down just like it did so the rest of the country would think Houston didn't care about the Oilers...

DonnyMost

03-26-2007, 01:08 PM

also, I don't think people realized how much they would miss a team until they lost one.

why do you think the rockets got a new arena? you can argue because they won but losing the oilers really helped the astros and rockets get new stadiums.

amen to that. put the fear'a god in em it did.

solid

03-26-2007, 01:10 PM

The problem is not the uniforms, it is with the players in them. The name is fine, colors fine, past management, not fine. But a tweak in color or design wouldn't hurt, but not until the team makes a turn for the better. Then, mark it with a change of some kind.

Cannonball

03-26-2007, 01:13 PM

I didnt get offended, I know other mexican people didnt get offended by that, the only person who get offended was the "spokesperson" of the mexican people in houston.

Yeah. Sometimes small groups get their way even if they're opinion isn't always indicative of the group they're supposed to be representing. I would guess that a more powerful organization like the Texas (as opposed to the Dynamo) would be less likely to bow to such pressure. They obviously didn't bow to the demands of the VYOF. :D

msn

03-26-2007, 01:36 PM

Yes, it was at City Hall...at 10am....on a Tuesday morning...and it was not publicized AT ALL beforehand. Seeing it on the news later that day was the first most Oiler fans (myself included) even knew there was supposed to be a rally.

Of course, ESPN and the rest of the national media were there to see it. They were probably tipped off beforehand. Almost as if the whole thing was setup to go down just like it did so the rest of the country would think Houston didn't care about the Oilers...
Precisely.

WhoMikeJames

03-26-2007, 10:39 PM

These are by far my favorites . I loved the way the team looked wearing them last year . If they have to wear the blue all the time as their dark jersey , stick with solid blue .

The remind me of the home Seahawks jerseys.

redgoose

03-27-2007, 01:03 AM

We could have also went with a gun theme like the old Colt .45's. However, i still like Death Star since it has to do with space and we are rebuilding for the future. ;)

TheFreak

03-27-2007, 11:08 AM