The David Carr "Well Wishes" Thread

[msn]

Here's the thread, not to beat the dead horse (we all know he sucked and needed to go), but to put down the one good thing you can say about David and wish him well.

lance on 610 was asking John if he remember how he felt about carr and the texans after 19-10. my how times have changed.
Any good memories of David Carr? :D

[MadMax]

19-10.

diving over the line vs. the panthers on Battle Red Day to win the game.

[updawg]

beating Dallas..
never bitching about all the sacks (gotta respect that).

Hopefully moving on will be good for both parties.

[redgoose]

Did an HEB commercial ot two with with Andy Pettite and Roger Clemens. It was kinda funny. :(

[ima_drummer2k]

I remember the game against J-ville when Dom decided to go for 2 and the win instead of the extra point for OT. They ran a QB sneak and Carr just put the ball over the goal line. Game over.

Of course, there was 19-10. His first TD pass to Billy Miller. Man, the future looked so bright at that point, didn't it?

Carr came on 610 every Monday morning whether they won or (more often) they lost. He NEVER backed away from doing that, even though the whole city had turned on him.

[MadMax]

I remember the game against J-ville when Dom decided to go for 2 and the win instead of the extra point for OT. They ran a QB sneak and Carr just put the ball over the goal line. Game over.

.

ok..i said panthers...that was jags??

i was at that game with my son and RM95! :D you'd think i could remember who they played!

[whag00]

Represented franchise well off the field.
19-10
TD vs. Jags
Win vs Colts

Good Luck.

[pgabriel]

From a person who never was a fan, didn't want to see him drafted, it was extremely impressive that he never bitched about the sacks and he got up everytime.

he was like dwayne wade, fall down 7 times, get up eight,

I still don't get that

[MadMax]

From a person who never was a fan, didn't want to see him drafted, it was extremely impressive that he never bitched about the sacks and he got up everytime.

he was like dwayne wade, fall down 7 times, get up eight,

I still don't get that

i remember that. you wanted peppers from day one. i argued with you. you were absolutely right. i was wrong.

i'm still right about vick, though. ;)

[rhester]

Thanks for beating Dallas.
Stay close to Christ.
Thanks for trying your best.


PS- Sorry for the O-Line

[BrieflySpeaking]

hes rich, no pitty for him

[Major Malcontent]

Thanks for beating Dallas.
Thanks for not throwing your OL under the bus even though they deserved it.
You seem like a good Christian family man.
You showed flashes of getting it together....that one first half against the Rams...a game against the Chiefs..every once in a while a sign of life.

Maybe a change of scenery will do us both good.

[magnetik]

I bet he is gonna look like a much better qb after he get's a good o-line. his efficiency was pretty good for the crap we had protecting him.

[Achilleus]

Was Carr ever injured? With all the times he got hit you would think he would have missed more games.

[Joshfast]

Sometimes things just don't work out....... change is good, and I think this split will be good for both of us. Life is crazy,and maybe with a better o-line and a change of scenery you can start a new life and be happy. We will always have 19-10.

[DaDakota]

Must resist urge....MUST FIGHT....ARRRRRGGGG.....ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!

Good luck David !




Whew....

DD

[texanskan]

I wish him well but I don't feel sorry for someone who has made 35 million bucks in 5 years

[leroy420]

19-10 and the dive to win the J'vill game are really it. There were flashes of what he could be here and there. I don't entirely blame him. He should get a public apology from Bob McNair for Casserly, Capers, the rest of the coaching staff, Corey Bradford, Jabar Gaffney, and the O-line.

That said, I'm not sad he's out. I've said it time and time again. It's time to get rid of the aura of losing. Right or wrong, that aura has David Carr's face all over it.

Good luck where ever you end up, DC.

[solid]

Thanks for beating Dallas.
Stay close to Christ.
Thanks for trying your best.


PS- Sorry for the O-Line

:D The poor guy probably sees huge defensive lineman running at him in his sleep.

[solid]

I expect you to do much better on another team. Hard to feel sorry for you since you are rich and good looking, but I wish you well. You will be "safer" on another team. Every league has to have a team that is "retarded," unfortunely, we got it.

[pradaxpimp]

sorry for the o-line.

I hope the years were losing were an adequate punishment for the cowboys.

But good luck in w/e ur endeavors are.

[mrdave543]

Good riddance, you worthless piece of crap. Its because the Texans kept you one extra year ( 3 in my mind) and cost them to pass on Vince Young.
I dont see myself ever being able to root for my hometown team again.

Luv Ya Blue had the chance to be reborn and it was denied.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR
I HATE YOU HOUSTON TEXANS

I have been a Titans fan since they left Houston and will always be one now.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR!

[Kam]

that was classy.


i'm a pretty classless person, but i don't think i would have done that.

[Party Pizza]

Did kindergarten get out early today?

[superden]

...ANNNNNND back on topic.

Thanks for the TD "celebrations" that got fined. It amused me :)

[texanskan]

Good riddance, you worthless piece of crap. Its because the Texans kept you one extra year ( 3 in my mind) and cost them to pass on Vince Young.
I dont see myself ever being able to root for my hometown team again.

Luv Ya Blue had the chance to be reborn and it was denied.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR
I HATE YOU HOUSTON TEXANS

I have been a Titans fan since they left Houston and will always be one now.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR!

Congrats on a real douch post! Start a "were not gonna miss you loser" thread instead of trashing our team and slurping VY and Bud at the same time.

Why don't you move to Nashville, just don't hangout around Packman

[mrdave543]

Congrats on a real douch post! Start a "were not gonna miss you loser" thread instead of trashing our team and slurping VY and Bud at the same time.

Why don't you move to Nashville, just don't hangout around Packman

now see if i started another thread, id get bashed for that....this was my best opportunity to voice my opinion. I do enjoy seeing everyone get upset over it too and make personal attacks.

bring on the lame responses texans fans!

[rrj_gamz]

I do expect him to do better somewhere else...I just wish he'd give me my money back for his stupid jersey...

[macalu]

now see if i started another thread, id get bashed for that....this was my best opportunity to voice my opinion. I do enjoy seeing everyone get upset over it too and make personal attacks.

bring on the lame responses texans fans!
thank you for your support. we won't be miss ya since you'll always hang around, but we're glad the Texans make you so emotional.

[Dr.Strangelove]

Good riddance, you worthless piece of crap. Its because the Texans kept you one extra year ( 3 in my mind) and cost them to pass on Vince Young.
I dont see myself ever being able to root for my hometown team again.

Luv Ya Blue had the chance to be reborn and it was denied.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR
I HATE YOU HOUSTON TEXANS

I have been a Titans fan since they left Houston and will always be one now.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR!


I don't believe it is within your realm of comprehension to understand what Luv Ya Blue was really about.

And somehow I doubt you were part of our fair town during that magical time.

No offense to everyone else,but it also doesn't surprise me that your a Titans and UT fan too.

I don't suppose that it would help to point out that Mario played injured all year...and is only 22.The guy is going to be a monster.

And another thing,why do people feel the need to bring up Vince Young every damn day?To say"I told you so"?...Anyway,it's bad form.
Just move on.



With regards to David Carr,
I feel things would have worked out differently if he had an offensive line and a good coach.(Capers was very lacking in many areas)
During that first preseason game, DC stepped up in the pocket full of confidence and drilled a bomb right on Bradford's numbers(which he dropped).He looked to be just what the doctor ordered.But the pounding Carr's taken on and off the field has taken it's toll.Without a doubt it's time to move on....I wish him the best.

[macalu]

And another thing,why do people feel the need to bring up Vince Young every damn day?To say"I told you so"?...Anyway,it's bad form.
Just move on.

b/c he thinks his Jesus is the only player ever that could turn a franchise around.

[Groogrux]

Good riddance, you worthless piece of crap. Its because the Texans kept you one extra year ( 3 in my mind) and cost them to pass on Vince Young.
I dont see myself ever being able to root for my hometown team again.

Luv Ya Blue had the chance to be reborn and it was denied.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR
I HATE YOU HOUSTON TEXANS

I have been a Titans fan since they left Houston and will always be one now.

I HATE YOU DAVID CARR!

I thought they blocked this site at elementary schools. :confused:

It's nap time, Davey. Somewun's a wittle tiwred.

[v3.0]

now see if i started another thread, id get bashed for that....this was my best opportunity to voice my opinion. I do enjoy seeing everyone get upset over it too and make personal attacks.

bring on the lame responses texans fans!
yep, a douchebag alright. :rolleyes:


David has failed here, but the Texans failed him too. Too bad, he is a standup guy. :(

[msn]

Hey, we made it 20 posts anyway--an entire page! Pile on the idiots elsewhere; it only helps them de-rail the thread.

[Poloshirtbandit]

Was Carr ever injured? With all the times he got hit you would think he would have missed more games.

I think there were one or two games he was injured in. I remember the game where Vick came back from a major injury vs. Texans and Carr was playing injured after Tony Banks got hurt.

[ROXRAN]

David,

Thanks for your time here in Houston and while it has become the time to part, I want to say you had my support even though this is for the best. (I live in Nashville, but the Texans are still my football team)

You had my support mainly due to your character and your mannerism when the signs pointed a change was needed more and more till it happened.

I respect that, and wish you the best. I hope you will latch on somewhere and turn things around performance wise.

ROXRAN

[Ric]

19-10.

diving over the line vs. the panthers on Battle Red Day to win the game.
he never played against the panthers. do you maybe mean the jacksonville game when they went for the TD instead of the FG? cause it wasn't battle red day........... boy, you REALLY hated carr, didn't you? :)

i wish the colts had been the final game of the year - dallas/indianapolis would have been a nice bookend... granted, bookends for mostly ****, but....

[weslinder]

Dear David Carr,

Thank you for your service. Thank you for never complaining, always getting back up, never throwing your teammates under the bus, and the occasional bright spot. Most of all, thank you for being part of bringing football back to Houston. I really respect you as a man. We're really sorry for the line. We're really sorry about Dom Capers and Charlie Casserly. Honestly, we're really sorry for picking you and then giving you the extension last year. You weren't right for the Texans, and the Texans weren't right for you. I hope you get a better situation next. If the Raiders, Dolphins, or whoever doesn't work out, I'd love to come watch you play for the Gamblers.

Sincerely,

Wes

[Bobblehead]

19-10

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2002/0908/photo/a_carr_i.jpg

[The Real Shady]

http://www.houstontexans.com/wpimages/carr/carr_haircut100404.jpg

[nWo34Life]

Good riddance.

Sincerely,
All Texans Fans

[tinman]

http://mlbkid.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/david_carr.jpg

[VesceySux]

A haiku:

What great potential!
So sorry about the sacks
Now get out of town

[IROC it]

Here's a slideshow from some of the images of the first season... (from back when I had a Carr Fan Page.. remember that? :D )

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click to view if it doesn't start on it's own...

(all I need is that Enya song... ;) )

[DonnyMost]

Trust me David, it's not you, it's us.

Best of luck.

Love,

DM

[TMac#1]

Great guy, but not the brains to be a good NFL QB.

Good luck with the Raiders.

[Jaingfang]

David,
You are one of the most nicest guys in the NFL, never complained about anything and took the blame for everything. I truly admire you for that, I wish you well and hope you suceed in the NFL. I wish your son healthy, and for you to still live in Houston and be involved with the community.

[redefined]

Is Carr's family going to go with him too?

His brother is a pretty good QB for Clements.

[MONON]

There!!! Now that I've taken out the irrelevancy in your post, we have a better understanding of your mindset!

Good luck, Dave! Wish we could have protected you more. You are a class act & deserved better. Noone can take away 19-10, the QB dive for the win & the last Indy game.

[1Bowler]

I'd like to say that I hope Matt Shaub get a season ending injury, today, so that we would have to keep Carr but if he doesn't I hope Carr goes to Miami to be reunited with Dom Capers, and I also hope that he finally reaches his full potential this season, so that I can hear everyone say "Houston made a huge mistake by getting rid of Carr", and i'll be ready to say "I told he was a great QB".

[1Bowler]

Good riddance.

Sincerely,
All Texans Fans

Wow way to show respect me by saying that I hate Carr. I loved Carr as our QB.

[MadMax]

Wow way to show respect me by saying that I hate Carr. I loved Carr as our QB.

"Table for one, please."

[updawg]

I'd like to say that I hope Matt Shaub get a season ending injury, today, so that we would have to keep Carr but if he doesn't I hope Carr goes to Miami to be reunited with Dom Capers, and I also hope that he finally reaches his full potential this season, so that I can hear everyone say "Houston made a huge mistake by getting rid of Carr", and i'll be ready to say "I told he was a great QB".
:confused: Are you related to Carr or a Fresno State alum or something?

[swilkins]

Good luck David. I know you're a good person and Cass's asses kinda screwed you on this.

[Joshfast]

I'd like to say that I hope Matt Shaub get a season ending injury, today, so that we would have to keep Carr but if he doesn't I hope Carr goes to Miami to be reunited with Dom Capers, and I also hope that he finally reaches his full potential this season, so that I can hear everyone say "Houston made a huge mistake by getting rid of Carr", and i'll be ready to say "I told he was a great QB".

LMAO!!! What the hell?

[macalu]

Wow way to show respect me by saying that I hate Carr. I loved Carr as our QB.

puff, puff, pass. puff, puff, pass.

[IROC it]

"Table for one, please."


Can I join you? Make that a table for two.

[Groogrux]

"Table for one, please."

Awesome.

[IROC it]

Awesome.


And highly presumptuous.

[Ric]

I hope Carr goes to Miami to be reunited with Dom Capers
i'm guessing david would rather cut off his right arm and be raped by it... or something. unless he's the single nicest human being ever, i can't imagine him having fond memories of capers, palmer, casserly, et al, after the abuse they put him through while they were here.

still, to this day, i can't figure out why capers left him in so many games when his only function was to absorb further abuse.

[msn]

And highly presumptuous.
Or perhaps just a joke?

i'm guessing david would rather cut off his right arm
Agreed, although we really don't know what David is thinking.

[Lynus302]

I honestly feel sorry for David Carr. Whether or not he's "the one" or could ever become "the one" is irrelevant as the Texans certainly never gave him the opportunity to do squat.

I wish him the best of luck.

[SwoLy-D]

David,

Thank you for the memories. I am sorry that so many people weren't as classy as to keep their mouths quiet to not say anything at all if it wasn't something nice. I'd like to let you know that I had supported you and everyone in your team's history, no matter if they were good or bad, and I only asked that they put 100% through the game, all 60 minutes of it.

Although at times we thought that all the beating made you quit, you came back like you had the desire. I enjoyed the many wins you helped us get, and the strength you used to pump that ball through the line that gave us so many points.

Thank you for never putting your head down and accepting that you may have made mistakes like some other people have as well. Be the same person and don't let something like this bring you down. We know you tried your best.

Thank you.

SwoLy-D

Good riddance.

Sincerely,
All Texans FansSTFU... that's classless... to make others think that I am like you. SPEAK FOR YOURSELF next time, please. :mad: It's people like you that make the world spicy. Thank you :rolleyes:.

IROC it, I believe those photos include some of the other seasons as well. We didn't play the Falcons the first season... it was the NFC East.

I can't believe how so many of you are saying "sorry for the offensive line..." and "i wished we could have protected you better"... so... DC wasn't completely at fault, huh? :(

[Rizzy]

Is Carr's family going to go with him too?

His brother is a pretty good QB for Clements.

I played with Derek this past year. He's surprisingly good for a sophomore, but there is a lot of room for improvementl. The only real negatives are that he can sometimes get discouraged and hesitate. Fortunetly, he's got a great offensive line, unlike his brother.

I talked to him on Tuesday and said he was staying regardless. Don't know the situation now.

[Kerfeld]

David, I wish you the best. You were one tough mf. It was not your fault you were given a butter knife to fight a war.

[hatemavs4life]

19-10.

diving over the line vs. the panthers on Battle Red Day to win the game.

Yeah agree 19-10 literally electrified H-Town and then a team that started like a cock strong bull developed persistent performance anxiety disorder coupled with erectile dysfunction at the hands of Asserly.

BTW, MM the dive was on the Jags in 2003 here but nonetheless, the memory was another good one!

DC will make a good, ample, talented backup elsewhere. Good luck, Davey!

[rhino17]

Bye Bye scrub ;)

[Surfguy]

I hope your new quarterback sucks worse, and is sacked more, than your last quarterback. :D

[hatemavs4life]

I hope your new quarterback sucks worse, and is sacked more, than your last quarterback. :D

Classy, troll. Real classy. :rolleyes:

[nWo34Life]

SwoLy-D

STFU... that's classless... to make others think that I am like you. SPEAK FOR YOURSELF next time, please. :mad: It's people like you that make the world spicy. Thank you :rolleyes:.

Good one. I know you want to have sex w/ David Carr, but I know the majority of Texans fans who can't stand the former face of the franchise who couldn't give Houston a winning football team.

Don't worry, he'll get on w/ a different team and still give you some.... ;)

[Kam]

Thanks for the time DC, but you gotta roll.


hey, I wanted Joey Harrington.

So we could have been trashing him.


Good luck to where ever you go.

We are going to rally behind our new QB.

[codell]

that was classy.


i'm a pretty classless person, but i don't think i would have done that.

mrdave has what you call a "bit of a maturity problem"

[mrdave543]

mrdave has what you call a "bit of a maturity problem"

HAHAHAHA, i love it.....

[v3.0]

Anybody ever met David in person?

I've read some stuff that he doesn't act mature in person like his reputation says he does.

[MadMax]

Anybody ever met David in person?

I've read some stuff that he doesn't act mature in person like his reputation says he does.

there was a quote from a doctor who played with him in a golf tournament suggesting that. but i've never met him.

[pgabriel]

remember the guy called john and lance's show and said that david was mean to him at a golf tournament. told him to go get him a turkey sandwich and I believe a dr. pepper.

then an emailer mails the show with a little skit that had david carr as pesci's character in goodfellas. in the scene where the guy is giving pesci a hard time about his shine box.


it was like david telling the caller

no I'm just breaking your balls
no go get my turkey sandwich

I wish I remember how the guy wrote it because it was just like the scene in goodfellas and it was pretty funny.

[tinman]

Thanks for the HEB commercials.

[ThreePointShot]

I kinda miss the guy...

[DonnyMost]

I miss his dad's awesome mullet

[EddieWasSnubbed]

I hope he does well. I really do.

Not because it would make us look bad or anything, cuz I don't want that to happen. I just feel bad because we weren't able to give the guy a good offensive line ever, and the whole time, he stood there and took those sacks like a champ.

[IROC it]

FWIW...

Report: Dolphins split on veteran QBs
David Carr - QB - HOU - Mar. 26 - 12:21 pm et

A league source tells profootballtalk.com that the Dolphins are currently split on whether to sign David Carr or Trent Green.
Cam Cameron has worked with Green before, but he'll require trade compensation and is 37 years old. Carr's first choice reportedly is Miami, so the Dolphins are dealing from a position of strength. Daunte Culpepper seems to be on his way out. Mar. 26 - 12:21 pm et

link (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=1576&line=91204&spln=1)

[Kam]

Okay, sorry to drag this **** up again.


for the record.

i want to ****ing know.

i don't want to **** on David Carr's thread. He's been ****ted on enough. It's old news, i've turn the page on his suckyness.



If Vince Young went to the Raiders, or 49ers, or Cardinals, or Jets, or the Toronto Argos, or BC Lions, or Manchester United, Maccabi Tel Aviv, or Panathinkaikos, you know you would be a fan of that team. Admit it to yourself, and the rest of us.


It was just a convenience that he went to the Titans, who just happened to play in Houston.

It is a cop out for you people to say, hey i'm a Titans fan because I am a Houston Oilers fan back in the day. For those who say that, you can insert rolley eye guy here.

For those who say I am a Titans fan, because I just follow Vince Youngs ass anywhere he goes, I am fine with that, but don't sugar coat it by saying, oh i was an oilers fan back in the day.


i'm ranting on some dumb bull ****.


good luck with the Dolphins. And were gonna kick your ass David Carr. I know Dunta wants to sack you.

[IROC it]

A nice read... if you like the facts of it all...

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His QB rating was a rock-solid 82.1 in 2006. That put him at number 15 in the league, or slightly above average. He also completed a phenomenal 68 percent of his passes—the very best in the NFL. Number one. Number fricken ONE. Better than Peyton Manning. Better than Tony Romo. Numero Uno.

And those impressive stats came under a heavy burden. How heavy? The man got sacked 41 times. Carr endured some of the worst punishment the AFC could mete out. The only quarterbacks in the AFC who got sacked more played for Oakland, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo—and it’s pretty safe to say that David Carr is a full order of magnitude better than those passers.

But it gets so much worse than that. Typically, a bruised and battered QB can hand the ball off to a reasonably competent running back and expect to share the burden. Not the case for Mr. Carr.

Last season, his top rushing teammate was Ron Dayne. Did Dayne get an impressive 1500 yards? Nope. Did he get a very solid 1200? Nope. How about 1000 yards, the traditional benchmark of a respectable season?

Not even close.

Ron Dayne managed a measly 612 yards in 2006, and barely eclipsed four per carry. That’s hardly the type of support that enables a quarterback to helm a winning team.

Think Reggie Bush may have come in handy?

Let's face it: With the exception of Andre Johnson, can anybody name a single talented man on the Texans' roster? Not likely.

The fact is that David Carr is one of the most talented and underrated players in the NFL. If his team failed, then it was because Houston’s leadership assembled a not-so-supporting cast of has-beens and never-weres.

The Texans lost one battle after another, and the leadership responded by beheading the lone general of worth. Smart.

Wherever Carr lands after this—and there will be many teams interested in his talents—the man will be better off. The Houston Texans are an organization so wretched that it’s hard to imagine enduring an entire five years with them.

Look for David Carr to revive his career somewhere—anywhere. Rest assured: He'll get the last laugh...and hopefully it'll be just as hard as the one bestowed upon us by this joke of an organization.

linkity link (http://www.bleacherreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1111&Itemid=38)

--- and no I didn't write this... :D

[hatemavs4life]

A nice read... if you like the facts of it all...

------
His QB rating was a rock-solid 82.1 in 2006. That put him at number 15 in the league, or slightly above average. He also completed a phenomenal 68 percent of his passes—the very best in the NFL. Number one. Number fricken ONE. Better than Peyton Manning. Better than Tony Romo. Numero Uno.

And those impressive stats came under a heavy burden. How heavy? The man got sacked 41 times. Carr endured some of the worst punishment the AFC could mete out. The only quarterbacks in the AFC who got sacked more played for Oakland, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo—and it’s pretty safe to say that David Carr is a full order of magnitude better than those passers.

But it gets so much worse than that. Typically, a bruised and battered QB can hand the ball off to a reasonably competent running back and expect to share the burden. Not the case for Mr. Carr.

Last season, his top rushing teammate was Ron Dayne. Did Dayne get an impressive 1500 yards? Nope. Did he get a very solid 1200? Nope. How about 1000 yards, the traditional benchmark of a respectable season?

Not even close.

Ron Dayne managed a measly 612 yards in 2006, and barely eclipsed four per carry. That’s hardly the type of support that enables a quarterback to helm a winning team.

Think Reggie Bush may have come in handy?

Let's face it: With the exception of Andre Johnson, can anybody name a single talented man on the Texans' roster? Not likely.

The fact is that David Carr is one of the most talented and underrated players in the NFL. If his team failed, then it was because Houston’s leadership assembled a not-so-supporting cast of has-beens and never-weres.

The Texans lost one battle after another, and the leadership responded by beheading the lone general of worth. Smart.

Wherever Carr lands after this—and there will be many teams interested in his talents—the man will be better off. The Houston Texans are an organization so wretched that it’s hard to imagine enduring an entire five years with them.

Look for David Carr to revive his career somewhere—anywhere. Rest assured: He'll get the last laugh...and hopefully it'll be just as hard as the one bestowed upon us by this joke of an organization.

linkity link (http://www.bleacherreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1111&Itemid=38)

--- and no I didn't write this... :D

Yeah IROC it, this post is ridiculous. I find it convenient how this bleacherreport.com writer did not bother to mention that DW (artist formerly known as DD), was injured for last season, was our first option and that basically every year on the field for us he gained 1000 yds but, that would blatantly refute his theory on how idiotic the franchise here is.

Yes, we have work to do with the OL. Thank you, Captain Obvious!

Another point, they need to separate and compare the regimes if you will. Asserly and Crappers set a standard for futility and imbecility that will probably never be reached again while, Smitty and Kuby had a stalwart draft and are showing guts and grit at doing and trying anything and everything to try and turn around this teams fortunes.

Oh also, something I thought hilarious! This report is all about the RAIDERS! Is there a more arrogant bunch in all the land than the Raider organization and their fans even Cowboy fans are tame compared to these assholes! :rolleyes: BTW, what have they done the last 4 years? Oh yeah, nada! Their history 40+ years compared to 5 for the Texans. Truly this writer really took the time to research his topic. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[MadMax]

As Peter King said...yeah, he was pressured. But QB's are supposed to show you something sometime even if they're pressured. The fact that no one was willing to take a flier on this guy tells you a lot about his value, particularly relative to his own contract.

[DaDakota]

If Vince Young went to the Raiders, or 49ers, or Cardinals, or Jets, or the Toronto Argos, or BC Lions, or Manchester United, Maccabi Tel Aviv, or Panathinkaikos, you know you would be a fan of that team. Admit it to yourself, and the rest of us.


It was just a convenience that he went to the Titans, who just happened to play in Houston.

It is a cop out for you people to say, hey i'm a Titans fan because I am a Houston Oilers fan back in the day. For those who say that, you can insert rolley eye guy here.

For those who say I am a Titans fan, because I just follow Vince Youngs ass anywhere he goes, I am fine with that, but don't sugar coat it by saying, oh i was an oilers fan back in the day.


i'm ranting on some dumb bull ****.


good luck with the Dolphins. And were gonna kick your ass David Carr. I know Dunta wants to sack you.

Nah, I would still be a fan of Vince, but if he went to one of those teams and they played the Texans...I would root for the Texans.

I still like the Titans because they are the old Houston Oilers, and I feel got run out of town.

DD

[macalu]

Nah, I would still be a fan of Vince, but if he went to one of those teams and they played the Texans...I would root for the Texans.

I still like the Titans because they are the old Houston Oilers, and I feel got run out of town.

DD

:confused: you root against the Texans now b/c Vince is on the Titans. how is that any different than Vince being on any other team?

[IROC it]

Here's one more credible than bleacherreport... how about Sporting News via yahoo!Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=itstooearlytocallthiscar&prov=tsn&type=lgns) -bold and italics added by yours truly for emphasis...

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It's too early to call this Carr a lemon
By Paul Attner - SportingNews

Paul Attner
SportingNews.com

Sometimes, the quarterback selection process in the draft is easy. John Elway? Carson Palmer? No need to even analyze those guys. But most times, scouts deal with the scenario unfolding this year. They have to decide whether prospects such as JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn will be good enough as pros to warrant elite draft choices. And now they have David Carr as yet another reminder of how the growth of a franchise can be stalled if you miss on your evaluation.

But did the Texans really miss when they made Carr the first pick in the 2002 draft?

My answer to that question is no. The organization failed Carr by never surrounding him with an offensive line sturdy enough to give him the security he needed to develop and, eventually, flourish. Five years as a pro still have not been enough to tell us whether Carr can be a star.

Remember the circumstances he encountered as a rookie: He became an immediate starter for an expansion franchise -- a difficult task for a veteran, much less for a raw player. He immediately became the face of a team trying to formulate a presence in the Houston community. He immediately was expected to be good, even if that was unrealistic. No way he could be even average, not when he was sacked 76 times, a league record. And that pounding really never ceased. That sacks number now stands at a horrid 249; no starter has endured this kind of punishment in his first five NFL seasons.

The Texans had hoped to mold a line around Tony Boselli, one of the best left tackles of his generation. But Boselli, Houston's first choice in the 2002 expansion draft, never took a regular-season snap. Despite passing both league and team physicals before the draft, his knees and shoulder betrayed him and he eventually retired.

Houston never recovered from his loss, never found a left tackle to consistently protect Carr. Even with the accomplished Mike Sherman coaching the Texans' offensive line in 2006, Carr was sacked 41 times. He still completed 68.3 percent of his passes, a league high. Imagine what he might accomplish if those sacks could be limited to no more than 25.

"When you take a quarterback on an expansion team, you hope you can get good enough around him to let him develop, and we didn't get good enough in enough spots," says Charley Casserly, who, as the Texans' general manager until 2006, made the decision to pick Carr. "I thought he would be a good starting quarterback in this league, and I still do."

Carr is not talented enough to be a franchise quarterback. But coming out of college, he was good enough that, if put in the right situation and surrounded by quality personnel, he could take a team to the playoffs. And that would make him the equal of almost every one of the top quarterbacks in this league.

But now, after all the sacks and all the battering, he carries a large dose of the "unknowns" with him. Last year, even under the guiding hand of new head coach Gary Kubiak, a well-respected developer of quarterbacks, Carr still displayed an inconsistency and, occasionally, a nervousness under pressure that tells football folks he has been adversely affected by all the hits. No one questions his toughness. But even he can't know for sure whether such skittishness is permanent or curable. The Texans certainly didn't want to spend any more time with him. They worried about his ability to execute complex game plans, and they weren't sure he ever could provide the leadership they want from their quarterback. Carr is a family-oriented, incredibly decent man with strong faith. Yet his lack of fire was considered a negative -- too nice, perhaps? There's something else, too. This is an organization undergoing a catharsis and cutting ties with its past failures.

And by bringing in Matt Schaub, whose shaky three-year NFL resume consists of two starts, six touchdown passes and six interceptions, the Texans have done something -- anything -- to help ease the ongoing unhappiness in the Houston community and media with the franchise's failure to draft hometown hero Vince Young last year.

Carr is only 27. He still will make a handsome living as a NFL quarterback. His next team will relish his mobility and his good-guy character. It also will hope he becomes a Jim Plunkett or Vinny Testaverde; they both turned wrecked careers into late-blooming successes. That's something that would never have happened for him in Houston.

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nicer read... Not really placing blame, but looking at the facts again...

I had forgotten the whole Boselli debacle.

[msn]

I get people arguing that Carr may have more--or much more--than he showed us in Houston due to the poor supporting staff. I don't buy it, but I see where they're coming from.

However, I'm getting tired of these guys running to the completion percentage--completely out of context--to prop up their argument.

Ryan Freaking Leaf could have completed those passes. Someone earlier in this thread put it well--Dave was great at turning 3rd-and-8's into 4th-and-4's.
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I'm looking forward to 2008 for two reasons:
--With another of building under their belts, what will the Texans show us offensively with Schaub at the helm and good O-line protection? How great will AJ be?
--With a full year under his belt in another system with perhaps a better o-line, will David Carr prove us all wrong?

[MadMax]

I get people arguing that Carr may have more--or much more--than he showed us in Houston due to the poor supporting staff. I don't buy it, but I see where they're coming from.

However, I'm getting tired of these guys running to the completion percentage--completely out of context--to prop up their argument.

Ryan Freaking Leaf could have completed those passes. Someone earlier in this thread put it well--Dave was great at turning 3rd-and-8's into 4th-and-4's.
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yeah..it's hilarious the tone that's taken to support that position. like it's this AHA!!! moment.

"See!!! He completed X% of his passes!!! See!!! We told you the Texans are stupid and David Carr is a great QB waiting to happen!!! SEE!!! SEE???? SEEEEEEE????"

[DaDakota]

The point all these articles are missing is Carr's lack of leadership.

The guy is just not a leader, doesn't inspire his teamates to new heights.

He just doesn't have "it"

DD

[texanskan]

I hope Carr does well and I also hope the Texans whoop his tail everytime we play him

[Rokkit]

For whatever reason; lack of talent, lack of support, etc. etc., he wasn't going to get it done here. Time for a change of scenery somewhere.

If he does find success elsewhere, I think that is great for him. Seems like a good guy, tough, hard worker. Best wishes to him.

[DaDakota]

Anyone sign him yet?

DD

[MadMax]

Anyone sign him yet?

DD

he's visiting carolina this week...where he'd be a backup to jake delhomme.

and seattle, where he'd be a backup to hasselbeck

[pgabriel]

If he does find success elsewhere, I think that is great for him. Seems like a good guy, tough, hard worker. Best wishes to him.

actually some rumors are coming out about his commitment to football. not that he's lazy, but apparently some feel he just doesn't put in the extra time to be great. who knows?

[DaDakota]

actually some rumors are coming out about his commitment to football. not that he's lazy, but apparently some feel he just doesn't put in the extra time to be great. who knows?

I thought that was discussed here in Houston as he apparently took the tapes home to study instead of doing it with the coaches at the practice facilities etc.

DD

[IROC it]

he's visiting carolina this week...where he'd be a backup to jake delhomme.

Carr pays Panthers a visit (http://charlotte.com/141/story/72337.html)
Carolina looking for backup, potential replacement at QB
STAN OLSON
solson@charlotteobserver.com
THOMAS B. SHEA - US PRESSWIRE
Free agent quarterback David Carr will spend two days in Charlotte visiting with the Carolina Panthers, according to a league source.

Free-agent quarterback David Carr arrived in Charlotte on Monday to begin a two-day visit with the Carolina Panthers, a league source confirmed. Carr was expected to spend Monday night and today with Panthers coaches and officials.

Carr, 27, is one of several players Carolina is interested in as a potential backup for starter Jake Delhomme. Since Delhomme will be 32 this season, Carr has the potential upside the Panthers are looking for as his successor.

(more at link)

Whoever signs with the Panthers will replace Chris Weinke, who was released recently.


---okay?