4-year-old suspended after hugging teacher's aide

[finalsbound]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4392235.html

Associated Press

WACO, Texas — School administrators gave a 4-year-old student an in-school suspension for inappropriately touching a teacher's aide after the pre-kindergartner hugged the woman.

A letter from La Vega school district administrators to the student's parents said that the boy was involved in "inappropriate physical behavior interpreted as sexual contact and/or sexual harassment" after he hugged the woman and he "rubbed his face in the chest of (the) female employee" on Nov. 10.

DaMarcus Blackwell, the father of the boy who attends La Vega Primary School, said he filed a complaint with the district. He said that his son doesn't understand why he was punished.

"When I got that letter, my world flipped," Blackwell said in a story in Sunday's editions of the Waco Tribune-Herald.

La Vega school district officials said student privacy laws prevented them from commenting.

After Blackwell filed a complaint, a subsequent letter from the district said the offense had been changed to "inappropriate physical contact" and removed references of sexual contact or sexual harassment from the boy's file.

Administrators said the district's student handbook contains no specific guidelines referring to contact between teachers and students but does state that inappropriate physical contact will result in a discipline referral.

The La Vega school district, which has five schools, covers about 30 miles around Waco.

-------------

Wow. "removed references of sexual contact or sexual harassment from the boy's file." Sexual harassment on file at 4 years old. Poor kid. He didn't even know what he did wrong.

[bladeage]

dumbest thing ever.

[superden]

Maybe the kid knew he was doing something wrong...maybe he did...
jk jk!!! It sounds pretty pathetic imo. Poor kid.

[BenignDMD]

How dumb. I wonder how long that will stay in the kids academic file. All the way thorugh high school? That would be BS

[SirCharlesFan]

Sounds like he tried to motorboat her.

[Achilleus]

http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/i/iketheme.jpg

[Smokey]

How would you guys punish the kid? He needs to know what he did was wrong and that he shouldn't do it again if it was inappropriate touching. He is too young for it to be "sexual." What if he had grabbed another kid's private area? Would you guys say "Awww how cute! He doesn't know what he's doing!"? He needs to learn sometime.

[dharocks]

How would you guys punish the kid? He needs to know what he did was wrong and that he shouldn't do it again if it was inappropriate touching. He is too young for it to be "sexual." What if he had grabbed another kid's private area? Would you guys say "Awww how cute! He doesn't know what he's doing!"? He needs to learn sometime.

How about just explaining it to the kid without punishing him?

It's a 4-year-old for crying out loud.

[Cesar^Geronimo]

How about just explaining it to the kid without punishing him?

It's a 4-year-old for crying out loud.

exactly --- making too big of a deal out of it is actually more harmful to the kid then calmly talking to him.

[JunkyardDwg]

How would you guys punish the kid? He needs to know what he did was wrong and that he shouldn't do it again if it was inappropriate touching. He is too young for it to be "sexual." What if he had grabbed another kid's private area? Would you guys say "Awww how cute! He doesn't know what he's doing!"? He needs to learn sometime.

Certainly he should know if he did something wrong..if the behavior was innapropriate, the teacher should talk with him and explain the differences. If he continues such behavior than a parent-conference would be warranted. If he still continues the behavior then a suspension. But to go straight to the suspension and include "sexual harrasment" acts on his file is abosultely absurd.

I'd like to know what the female employee was thinking in interpreting a four-year old's action as sexual harassment.

[Yaozer]

this is clearly a case for the juvie hall

:rolleyes:

[EddieWasSnubbed]

Sounds like he tried to motorboat her.
Most definitely.


But still, if a four year old comes up to your boobs, you're pretty short.






Motor boatin' son of a ........

[Master Baiter]

I would gladly take an in-school suspension to motorboat a few titties.

[EddieWasSnubbed]

I would gladly take an in-school suspension to motorboat a few titties.
Any time someone named "Master Baiter" posts in a thread like this, it's a must read. :D

[Mr. Brightside]

Good thing we stopped him from becoming a rapist in 14 years.

[Smokey]

Maybe his mom should have explained to him that it is okay to motorboat her not the teacher :D

I blame the parents.

[kaleidosky]

hope it wasn't something he learned by watching..parents..

[mateo]

Waco, Texas.

What do you expect from such a progressive, open-minded place?

[pchan]

The rule is the rule. I am pretty sure it is listed in the rule books somewhere that students are not supposed to show affection in the form of touching, hugging... etc.

It doesn't matter if he is 4 years old or 14 years old. He should have read the rules of the school if he is going to attend school... or any other institutions. If he doesn't like the rule of this society, they can immigrate somewhere else. :)

Furthermore, he might not know what "sexual harassment", I am pretty sure he knows how to please himself and all those things. It is one of the earliest thing people learn. I can't believe the school district succumb to the pressure from the parents to modify the offenses.

I am all for an iron fist policy on these types of stuff. I mean, this culture of dancing in public, hugging in public, drinking, have got to STOP. We should ban them all.. not just in schools, but in all public places. Human are corrupted, we are breeding a culture of rapists, murders, drunks, and dumb people.

[Master Baiter]

Ok, class, today we are going to learn that you can stick your face into these and go blabhalsdhbkalsdhohlfdasdlabhjlkasjblkashs

It is not appropriate.

http://www.verystrangeauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ebay%20boobs%20(220%20x%20165).bmp

[FrontRowJoe]

Totally wrong of the district to suspend him. However, the teacher's aide had little recourse. She can't talk to the kid and tell him what he did is wrong. Why? Because the first question out of his mouth will be "Why is it wrong?" Which invites a discussion of sexuality between the aide and a 4-year-old. Which results in the aide getting sued by the parents. Because people sue first and think later. Our litigious society has conditioned school districts to take a "worst-case-scenario" approach to almost everything now. So 4-year-olds get suspended for hugging. Somewhat absurd, but as a soon-to-be teacher, I can kinda see their side.

[bladeage]

How would you guys punish the kid? He needs to know what he did was wrong and that he shouldn't do it again if it was inappropriate touching. He is too young for it to be "sexual." What if he had grabbed another kid's private area? Would you guys say "Awww how cute! He doesn't know what he's doing!"? He needs to learn sometime.


i say a good old fashion beating is in order.

[nyquil82]

I think it is only fair that the teacher can molest him back. Fairs fair.

[baller4life315]

Give him the chair! The kid clearly knew what he was doing and the teacher's aide should be commended for making such a big deal of this and embarrassing the young boy's family.

Job well done.......







:rolleyes:

[docgundy]

I should've taken more advantage of the opportunities as a 4 year old. I got more play back then than I do now. :cool:

[warbirdzone]

They need to castrate this 4 yr old ASAP before any more harm is done. This evil little one is clearly a rapist in the making. :confused:

[Uprising]

Ok, class, today we are going to learn that you can stick your face into these and go blabhalsdhbkalsdhohlfdasdlabhjlkasjblkashs

It is not appropriate.

http://www.verystrangeauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ebay%20boobs%20(220%20x%20165).bmp

Lol....wow that's a strange link name for that picture.

[DaDakota]

Anyone else think of the "Squints" the kid pretending to have drowned in "The Sandlot"

:)

DD

[Invisible Fan]

Nurses should sue newborns for indecent exposure.

Chauvanist pigs...

[SwoLy-D]

Aide's fault. HISD trains aides and assistants to hug the kids sideways to prevent this. :o swear to G.

She should have known better than to give the boy the opportunity.

[Saint Louis]

Maybe the kid was just hungry.

[Uprising]

It'll be about 10 years till one of his teacher's hears about what happened when he was 4....and has a teacher student relationship. We'll see him in the news again.

[kwik_e_mart]

I don't know what the school district was thinking... we are talking about a 4 year old kid here

[baller4life315]

Anyone else think of the "Squints" the kid pretending to have drowned in "The Sandlot"

:)

DD

Wendy Peffercorn :cool:

[Cesar^Geronimo]

Totally wrong of the district to suspend him. However, the teacher's aide had little recourse. She can't talk to the kid and tell him what he did is wrong. Why? Because the first question out of his mouth will be "Why is it wrong?" Which invites a discussion of sexuality between the aide and a 4-year-old. Which results in the aide getting sued by the parents. Because people sue first and think later. Our litigious society has conditioned school districts to take a "worst-case-scenario" approach to almost everything now. So 4-year-olds get suspended for hugging. Somewhat absurd, but as a soon-to-be teacher, I can kinda see their side.

Kind of see their side? A four year old! Most four year olds aren't even self-aware enough to close the door when the go in the bathroom. If he really did this he was mimicing something he'd seen elsewhere -- but there is no way the school district was anywhere near correct here.

[Cohen]

I don't know what the school district was thinking...

Waco.

[Falcons Talon]

Waco.

I wonder when they dropped the "h"?

[MadMax]

my wife did her student teaching at this school!

[finalsbound]

It's not an embarassment to the family of the boy, or the boy. It's an embarassment to Waco. Honestly I still can't believe how ridiculous this is. Part of me isn't surprised. Weird **** happens in Waco all the time.

When the poor PRE-KINDERGARDNER doesn't even know what he DID to merit in school-suspension, it's just wrong. Maybe she had big boobs. Maybe they were like a pillow. I can just see the little kid alternating sides of his head against her chest. I highly doubt he motorboated. This should have never been a big deal.

[SwoLy-D]

I wonder when they dropped the "h"?They dropped the "k". :D (c'mon, now, even A-Train saw that one coming. Nice one, though)

[Falcons Talon]

They dropped the "k". :D (c'mon, now, even A-Train saw that one coming. Nice one, though)


ARGGhh...typo!!!

[brentdapmp]

The suspension is stupid and if I could say one thing to this kid it would be...........NICEEEEEEE

[Rocket River]

Totally wrong of the district to suspend him. However, the teacher's aide had little recourse. She can't talk to the kid and tell him what he did is wrong. Why? Because the first question out of his mouth will be "Why is it wrong?" Which invites a discussion of sexuality between the aide and a 4-year-old. Which results in the aide getting sued by the parents. Because people sue first and think later. Our litigious society has conditioned school districts to take a "worst-case-scenario" approach to almost everything now. So 4-year-olds get suspended for hugging. Somewhat absurd, but as a soon-to-be teacher, I can kinda see their side.


Actually . . the old fashion . . JUST DON'T DO IT
is enough Explaination for a 4 yrs old

This concept that everything has to be explained in detail to kids
who could not understand it all is ridiculous

JUST DON'T DO IT . .that is enough explaination . . . he will get the real reason
later

Rocket River

[tested911]

Ok, class, today we are going to learn that you can stick your face into these and go blabhalsdhbkalsdhohlfdasdlabhjlkasjblkashs

It is not appropriate.

http://www.verystrangeauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ebay%20boobs%20(220%20x%20165).bmp

What class is this and where can I sign up?

[FrontRowJoe]

Actually . . the old fashion . . JUST DON'T DO IT
is enough Explaination for a 4 yrs old

This concept that everything has to be explained in detail to kids
who could not understand it all is ridiculous

JUST DON'T DO IT . .that is enough explaination . . . he will get the real reason
later

Rocket River

I get what you're saying...and I don't entirely disagree. However, if you're not a teacher, it's hard to understand the situation they're in. You have a HUGE target on your back. The students have it in for you, because they don't want to go to school. The parents have it in for you, because it's easier to blame the teacher than to take responsibility for not being an adequate parent to your child. And the district has it in for you, because you're expendable, and a convenient scapegoat for anything that goes wrong.

It's bred an environment where teachers have to cover their butts (metaphorically speaking) no matter what happens. So we end up in situations where a student hugs a teacher, and rather than bring it up with the student or the parents (and risk possible litigation and/or dismissal) the teacher reports it to the district, which goes to this extreme. I don't blame the aide for this at all. If anyone is to blame, it would be the district (for overreacting) or the parents (for not teaching their child to respect other people's personal space).

[JuanValdez]

Teaching 4 year olds, keeping away physical contact is pretty much an impossibility. My wife did some substitute teaching and they told her she absolutely was not allowed to touch any of the kids. When she got to class, they wanted to hug her, sit in her lap, have her take them to the bathroom, etc. Highschoolers just don't know any better.

my wife did her student teaching at this school!

:eek: Max, watch your sentence structure. You're leaving yourself wide open.

[rrj_gamz]

Ok, class, today we are going to learn that you can stick your face into these and go blabhalsdhbkalsdhohlfdasdlabhjlkasjblkashs

It is not appropriate.

http://www.verystrangeauctions.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ebay%20boobs%20(220%20x%20165).bmp


Well, that's debatable...I mean, when you get older, then you can stick your face in these...Actually, you'll be a Legend, depending on what age you get to these bad boys......

But seriously, this is the dumbest thing I ever heard...I mean, kids are kids and at 4 years old, I'm sure he had no idea what the hell he was doing...