Trivia!

[ZRB]

Trivia question 1: How many championships did the Rockets win without Hakeem Olajuwon?

Trivia question 2: How many Rocket players were named Finals MVP besides Hakeem?

Trivia question 3: Which Rocket player leads the team all-time in scoring?

Trivia question 4: How many professional sports titles did Houston win before the Rockets in 94 and 95?



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[ROXRAN]

ZRB, I like Dream, met him, got his autograph, a real class guy, Dream means a lot. Believe it! but I'd rather have him out the door if he will be a future liability to the team.

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[Raven Lunatic]

Which player on our team only played 58 games last season?

Which player on our team will likely play less than that this next season?

Which player on our team has a very good chance of having a serious injury next season that stops him from playing another season, despite the fact that he will still be making 7-9 million dollars (if signed to the reported deal)?

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[This message has been edited by Raven Lunatic (edited July 17, 2001).]

[bobrek]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ZRB:

Trivia question 4: How many professional sports titles did Houston win before the Rockets in 94 and 95?

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The Oilers won the AFL championship in 1960 and 1961. I believe the Aeros won 3 World Hockey Association championships in the 70s.

Hmmmm, perhaps the Texans ought to sign George Blanda.

The Houston Buffs minor league baseball team won a number of championships.

All of the teams I mentioned were professional sports teams based in Houston.


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[SlamN]

So you think the Rockets should continue to pay whatever that player demands until he decides its time for him to retire thus jeapardizing the ability to build a championship team for the future?

I am a Rockets fan first and I think his contract demands will hurt the Rockets ability to acquire younger players needed to build another championship team.



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[HayesStreet]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bobrek:

The Oilers won the AFL championship in 1960 and 1961. I believe the Aeros won 3 World Hockey Association championships in the 70s.

Hmmmm, perhaps the Texans ought to sign George Blanda.

The Houston Buffs minor league baseball team won a number of championships.

All of the teams I mentioned were professional sports teams based in Houston.


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I was just watching Game 7 of the '94 finals and bob costas handled that: "The city does not have a mojor championship from a league still in existence."


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[Raven Lunatic]

I do believe the IHL still exists.

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Rockets need power forward. Mo near now. Go near Mo.

You can Run from the bet, you can Rave at the bet...but you just can't hide.

[HayesStreet]

The Aeros were the WHL, not the IHL. The current Aeros are not the same league.

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[Band Geek Mobster]

I guess if Clyde wants to come back we should sign him as well...

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[TheFreak]

1. zero
2. zero
3. Hakeem!
4. zero

5. Who is responsible for "Clutch City"?

6. Who is responsible for Rudy's nice house?

7. Who was responsible for Kenny Smith and Vernon Maxwell not having to go on food stamps?

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"I guess that's YOUR theory"

[haven]

7. Seems like half the NBA has shelled out a couple mill to Vernon Maxwell at various tmies http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/wink.gif.

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[Tolpatcsh Verkinder]

This is irrelevant. Dream is being all business, so so must we.

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It was the time of the preacher, in the year of '01
Now the preachin' is over, and the lessons begun . . .

[TheFreak]

That was because of Hakeem. Remember the Rockets bought him for 25K.

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"I guess that's YOUR theory"

[Tolpatcsh Verkinder]

5) Some guy at the Chronicle

6) Les Alexander

7) See above.

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It was the time of the preacher, in the year of '01
Now the preachin' is over, and the lessons begun . . .

[Hail The Dream!]

ZRB, Im happy to see a fellow Dream idolizer. The answer to your questions are...Hakeem can do what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants...because us Rockets fans should treat him like our parents. With out him we would not be here.

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"I can honestly say I feel I guarded the man pretty well, but the guy is playing better than anyone I have seen in a long time" David Robinson on The Dream 95

[Ranger11]

I have to agree with The Freak. Kenny can only talk smack to Charles on TNT because of Hakeem. I once thought that I was a Rockets fan but I now realize that I am an Hakeem Olajuwon fan. Whatever team he goes to will be my favorite team. I know that is heresy on this site but that is the way I feel. I understand the loyalty of all the posters to the Rockets and I know why all of you are upset. I have been upset that he is leaving as well, but I have decided to follow Dream. I will still root for the Rockets and I will support them but I guess they will only be my 2nd favorite team from now on. It is kind of scary knowing that I will have to adopt a new team to enjoy. I sure hope that it does not turn out to be the damn Jazz or the Lakers.

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[Band Geek Mobster]

The Rockets don't win Game 1 in the NBA Finals against the Magic without Kenny Smith. Dream played a huge part in the championship teams, but he needed the Mario Elie's and Sam Cassell's as well...

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[crash5179]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ZRB:
Trivia question 1: How many championships did the Rockets win without Hakeem Olajuwon?

Trivia question 2: How many Rocket players were named Finals MVP besides Hakeem?

Trivia question 3: Which Rocket player leads the team all-time in scoring?

Trivia question 4: How many professional sports titles did Houston win before the Rockets in 94 and 95?

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Trivia Answer 1. One Western Conference Championship in 1980. You didn't say what kind of championship. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/tongue.gif

Trivia Answer 2. Moses Malone. Once again you never said that they had to of won the MVP while with the Rockets. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

You got me on 3 and 4.

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[ZRB]

Rockets win less than 20 games without Hakeem.

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[ZRB]

MVP while with the Rockets, and NBA Finals Championship.

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[SlamN]

How many teams are willing to pay an aging and injury prone Hakeem a guaranteed multiyear contract worth well over $10 million?

Rockets are the only ones (they shouldn't even consider it IMO)that Team Hakeem is revealing...but supposedly there are others.

Hakeem was an employee of the Rockets and has helped them build a strong franchise. He has been compensated and probably is (was) welcomed back in management or coaching staff. Hakeem is not the Rockets.

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[Band Geek Mobster]

I think the Rockets won more than 20 games last season when Dream was out...

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[Ranger11]

quote by PRM: The Rockets don't win Game 1 in the NBA Finals against the Magic without Kenny Smith. Dream played a huge part in the championship teams, but he needed the Mario Elie's and Sam Cassell's as well...
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The Rockets also don't win that game without Nick Anderson. Hey Nick, thanks for the championship! Hey PRM, I am being sarcastic! Without Hakeem the '95 Rockets would have been a lottery team. So don't give me that Kenny Smith crap! Hakeem MADE this team. Oh wait, maybe Nick Anderson did.

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[crash5179]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ZRB:
MVP while with the Rockets, and NBA Finals Championship.

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Sure now you change the rules!

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[Band Geek Mobster]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ranger11:
The Rockets also don't win that game without Nick Anderson. Hey Nick, thanks for the championship! Hey PRM, I am being sarcastic! Without Hakeem the '95 Rockets would have been a lottery team. So don't give me that Kenny Smith crap! Hakeem MADE this team. Oh wait, maybe Nick Anderson did.</font>

I agree, we don't win that game without Nick Anderson choking.

Did you not read what I said when I said that Dream played a huge part in the championships?

Do you think we would have won those championships without the Cassell's, Smith's, Elie's, and Horry's?

Someone had to hit those open 3 pointers, it sure as hell wasn't Hakeem.


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[Ranger11]

Who got Kenny all the open looks? It sure the hell wasn't him taking guys off the dribble.

Tell me this; could you replace Kenny with Craig Hodges or John Paxton or replace Horry with Horace Grant or Dale Ellis and could the Rockets still have won the championship. Yes. But take out Hakeem and there is no way they could have won.

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[Ranger11]

Hey you are right man, Hakeem sucks. We should have drafted Bowie. I guess I am alone in that I would rather watch the Dream Shake against the Admiral then watch the Mobley dribble show. Just call me old school. From now it should be "old school Ranger11"

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[SlamN]

Its a team game, the Rockets would not have won any championships without any of the players on that squad...even Charles Jones who fouled beautifully when we needed him. Without Smith, Cassell, Elie or Horry the Rockets would not have kept the games close. Without Hakeem those guys would actually have to move around to get shots.

If you replace Hakeem with Ewing (blah) or Robinson (blah) the Rockets could have won the rings as well. Without one the other could not have thrived.

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[Band Geek Mobster]

Well now I know what the "11" stands for, when you learn how to read and comprehend, I'll be more than happy to help you understand that no 1 man has won an NBA championship by himself and that very few teams had as many clutch shooters as the Rockets did during those championship runs.

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[crash5179]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SlamN:


If you replace Hakeem with Ewing (blah) or Robinson (blah) the Rockets could have won the rings as well. Without one the other could not have thrived.

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That is doubtlfull.

Make Ewing a Rocket and Hakeem a Knick and I fully beleive the Knicks have that championship in 94.

Make Robinson a Rocket and Hakeem a Spur and...well I would hate to think that our star player could ever be so completely dominated as Robinson was by Dream in 95.

Every championship team has had roll players step up like Tyrone Lue this past year or Sam Cassell and Robert Horry for us or John Paxson and Steve Kerr for the Bulls but without the Jordans and Dreams of the NBA those roll players would have never been in position to contribute in those situations.

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[Ranger11]

SlamN, do you really believe that about Ewing or Robinson? I believe if one of those guys was with the Rockets instead of Hakeem then whatever team Hakeem was on would have won the championships. If you don't recall the '94 championship the Knicks had a better "team" than the Rockets but the Rockets had Hakeem. And in '95 Hakeem made Robinson look silly.

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[Ranger11]

You really hurt me, PRM. Really. I am crushed knowing that you might not find me intelligent http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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[SlamN]

I was just building on Ranger11's post that if Smith or Horry were replaced by similar players the Rockets would have still won. His original post said that if we didn't have Hakeem the Rockets would have never won...which is true. But if we had a player similar to Hakeem (dominate low post player) we could have won a ring as well.

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[TheFreak]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If you replace Hakeem with Ewing (blah) or Robinson (blah) the Rockets could have won the rings as well.</font>

LOL!



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[Dubious]

I posted this tounge-in-cheek reply to ZRB illustrating why you might not want to invest 12 million in an OLDER player with an extensive medical history. Apparently my humor fell on deaf ears.

New Trivia Game
In an effort to help CD's memory let's try to come up with all the medical conditions that have limited the playing time of the young and virile Hakeem. Somebody will have to help me with the actual dates and games missed.
1.Mystery Asthma (milehighitis)
2.Mystery Anemia (Ramadan Noeatis)
3.Mystery Blood clot (Careerus Almostendus)
4.Mysterious Mood Changes (Rudynoluvmeism)

Now what would we expect for Hakeem in two more years?



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[SamCassell]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Raven Lunatic:
I do believe the IHL still exists.

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Actually, I do believe its defunct. Most of its teams, including Houston, just left to join the AHL.



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[AB]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Raven Lunatic:

Which player on our team will likely play less than that this next season?

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Sorry to be Mean, but before I completed this question Cato's name flashed on my mind

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[JayZ750]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ZRB:
Rockets win less than 20 games without Hakeem.
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I have been the last person to ever get mad at your pessimism, but whne it comes down to sheer stupidity, I have to say something. Stop making moronic statements like that. You can be a pessimist without being dumb http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[ZRB]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JayZ750:
I have been the last person to ever get mad at your pessimism, but whne it comes down to sheer stupidity, I have to say something. Stop making moronic statements like that. You can be a pessimist without being dumb http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Sorry I took so long to respond. I was referring to the 93-94 team. There is no way that team would have won anything without the Dream.

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[crash5179]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SlamN:
I was just building on Ranger11's post that if Smith or Horry were replaced by similar players the Rockets would have still won. His original post said that if we didn't have Hakeem the Rockets would have never won...which is true. But if we had a player similar to Hakeem (dominate low post player) we could have won a ring as well.

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The was no Low Post Player similar to Hakeem. Hakeem was simply head and shoulders above the rest. Clyde Drexler had similar talents to Michael Jordan but he was not as good and Chicagos chance to win 6 nba titles would have declined dramaticaly. No other NBA center in the 90's had the game Dream had. Without Dream our chances to win those two championships would have droped drasticaly.


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[SlamN]

I can't think of anyone that can come close to Jordan.

I think Hakeem was better than Ewing or Robinson during those years as well but to say we could've won without Smith or Horry is unfair as well. Every one of those players played an important role in the championship run IMO.

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