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SamFisher
10-04-2006, 01:41 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/education/30teacher.html?ref=education

But Ms. McGee, 51, a popular art teacher with 28 years in the classroom, is out of a job after leading her fifth-grade classes last April through the Dallas Museum of Art. One of her students saw nude art in the museum, and after the child’s parent complained, the teacher was suspended.

:rolleyes:

Mind you this is not Robert Mapplethorpe the kids were exposed to, it was this type stuff

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jo mama
10-04-2006, 01:59 PM
"whats the big deal?"

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HayesStreet
10-04-2006, 02:01 PM
Dammit, Sam. You need to put NSFW if you're going to put porn on the bbs.
SamFisher
10-04-2006, 02:06 PM
Dammit, Sam. You need to put NSFW if you're going to put porn on the bbs.

You're right, what was I thinking?

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rage
10-04-2006, 02:08 PM
These people are amazing!
Sometime I wonder if we are living in a third world country or Medieval time!
steddinotayto
10-04-2006, 02:14 PM
I bet the parents of the kid never ever stepped into a museum in their narrowminded lives.
HayesStreet
10-04-2006, 02:17 PM
You're right, what was I thinking?

http://i12.tinypic.com/2crxba8.jpg

lol, :eek:
Master Baiter
10-04-2006, 02:17 PM
Titties. The root of all evil.
Mr. Clutch
10-04-2006, 02:19 PM
SO that's how you can get fired from a public school. Whether kids are actually learning is of less importance.
RocketMan Tex
10-04-2006, 02:26 PM
SO that's how you can get fired from a public school. Whether kids are actually learning is of less importance.

No doubt..... :(
pgabriel
10-04-2006, 03:14 PM
not really related to the story, but I used to think it was laughable that bush ran for his first term on texas's public school record
NewYorker
10-04-2006, 03:32 PM
I don't think anyone can support the suspension of this teacher. What a stain on the Texas educational system.

Another example of fundamentalism wreaking havoc.
thegary
10-04-2006, 03:33 PM
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SamFisher
10-04-2006, 03:51 PM
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losttexan
10-05-2006, 10:29 AM
Yea, a teacher with 28 years of experience, underpaid, dares to take the kids to a museum, and there one of the student’s sees, probably some boobs, and the teacher gets suspended.

Does the Taliban run that part of Texas?

So sad. :(
Saint Louis
10-05-2006, 11:02 AM
Yea, a teacher with 28 years of experience, underpaid, dares to take the kids to a museum, and there one of the student’s sees, probably some boobs, and the teacher gets suspended.

Does the Taliban run that part of Texas?

So sad. :(

The Taliban would just blow up the museum. Wait a minute, I don't want to give anyone any ideas.
thegary
10-05-2006, 11:08 AM
art education is woeful in this country. the woman tries and gets fired, it is so absurd that i can't believe it really happened. kinda makes me wanna blow something up. :eek:
FranchiseBlade
10-05-2006, 11:22 AM
The teacher should be rewarded. If the parents want to keep their daughter uneducated and ignorant there isn't much we could do about that. The teacher should not be punished for helping the other students.
NewYorker
10-05-2006, 03:43 PM
Honestly, this is what I can't stand about Texas....not that there are idiots that don't get art, but that people tolerate these idiots and let them control the decision making process.

Now you have the TV station blacking out the boobs on pieces of Art? And the school gets away with suspending the teacher?

In other parts of the world, this kind of reaction would actually be all over the place - provoking protests and hundreds upon hundreds of letters. The outrage would be immense. But not in Texas. Like I said, this is a stain and I'm sadden that Texans don't reaction more strongly.
Ottomaton
10-05-2006, 04:01 PM
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Fatty FatBastard
10-05-2006, 04:09 PM
Not to burst y'all's bubble, but a simple permission slip for the field trip would have alleviated this. Besides, she didn't get fired, people.

And I have no problem with nude art, but we all know that people can get easily offended (re: this board). Best to place in the permission slip that said museum may contain artful works of minimal nudity. Then the parent is responsible.
geeimsobored
10-05-2006, 04:23 PM
Not to burst y'all's bubble, but a simple permission slip for the field trip would have alleviated this. Besides, she didn't get fired, people.

And I have no problem with nude art, but we all know that people can get easily offended (re: this board). Best to place in the permission slip that said museum may contain artful works of minimal nudity. Then the parent is responsible.

Exactly.. I figured permission slips were standard for field trips. I know when I was in high school, they always handed out those things.
Ottomaton
10-05-2006, 04:26 PM
Besides, she didn't get fired, people.


Not having your contract renewed is essentially the way they fire teachers when they don't have just cause and they don't want to pay unemployment. Find a teacher and ask them what 'not having your contract renewed' means.


And I have no problem with nude art, but we all know that people can get easily offended (re: this board). Best to place in the permission slip that said museum may contain artful works of minimal nudity. Then the parent is responsible.

This requires the forethought that a parent might freak out over this which is as far as I am concerned absurd. Should they start handing out permission slips to read Farenheit 451 now? (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=118436) I think to be sure you would probably have to begin having permission slips for every possible thing that occurs in a school.
Deckard
10-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Honestly, this is what I can't stand about Texas....not that there are idiots that don't get art, but that people tolerate these idiots and let them control the decision making process.

Now you have the TV station blacking out the boobs on pieces of Art? And the school gets away with suspending the teacher?

In other parts of the world, this kind of reaction would actually be all over the place - provoking protests and hundreds upon hundreds of letters. The outrage would be immense. But not in Texas. Like I said, this is a stain and I'm sadden that Texans don't reaction more strongly.
Why single out Texas? That boob who ordered the statue covered at Justice, in Washington, was from one of those goofy states that start with an M... Misery, or something like that. The "Don't Show Me" state. The one named after a river. Asscroft, wasn't it? I think Sam pointed him out earlier. Real fugly lookin' guy.



Keep D&D Civil.
thegary
10-05-2006, 04:33 PM
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true, very true

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insane man
10-05-2006, 04:37 PM
im assuming there were permission slips standard? aren't they always?
Fatty FatBastard
10-05-2006, 04:38 PM
Not having your contract renewed is essentially the way they fire teachers when they don't have just cause and they don't want to pay unemployment. Find a teacher and ask them what 'not having your contract renewed' means.

First, that wasn't placed in this thread. Second, if a dozen teachers took the students, why weren't they suspended? Sounds like there is more going on with this teacher. A school district doesn't fire someone for this.



This requires the forethought that a parent might freak out over this which is as far as I am concerned absurd. Should they start handing out permission slips to read Farenheit 451 now? (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=118436) I think to be sure you would probably have to begin having permission slips for every possible thing that occurs in a school.


Parents can get riled up about a lot of things. But this reasoning is at the school board level. Whether it is taken out or not is up to the district.

All I'm saying is that permission slips would have solved the whole issue.
NewYorker
10-05-2006, 04:38 PM
Why single out Texas? That boob who ordered the statue covered at Justice, in Washington, was from one of those goofy states that start with an M... Misery, or something like that. The "Don't Show Me" state. The one named after a river. Asscroft, wasn't it? I think Sam pointed him out earlier. Real fugly lookin' guy.



Keep D&D Civil.

You're right. It's not just Texas - it's most of this country. Well, the sad thing is, these places are only hurting themselves....and teaching us how Americans and the Taliban have a lot in common.
thegary
10-05-2006, 04:40 PM
Why single out Texas?

well, i don't think you want to compare the great state of texas to muhzuruh now do you? c'mon texas is better than that isn't it :confused: :)
NewYorker
10-05-2006, 04:40 PM
Not to burst y'all's bubble, but a simple permission slip for the field trip would have alleviated this. Besides, she didn't get fired, people.

And I have no problem with nude art, but we all know that people can get easily offended (re: this board). Best to place in the permission slip that said museum may contain artful works of minimal nudity. Then the parent is responsible.

I thought you always needed a permision slip from parents for any kind of field trip?

Anyway, what if you take kids to a farm and they see animals doing each other. Should you have to put in the permission slip: Warning, child may see animals having sex? Also, Cow boobs will be exposed.
Ottomaton
10-05-2006, 04:48 PM
First, that wasn't placed in this thread. Second, if a dozen teachers took the students, why weren't they suspended? Sounds like there is more going on with this teacher. A school district doesn't fire someone for this.



Sometimes it helps to actually read the story before commenting on it. (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/education/30teacher.html?ref=education) ;)


In a newsletter e-mailed to parents this week, the principal and Rick Reedy, superintendent of the Frisco Independent School District, said that Ms. McGee had been denied transfer to another school in the district, that her annual contract would not be renewed and that a replacement had been interviewed.
Fatty FatBastard
10-05-2006, 04:54 PM
Sometimes it helps to actually read the story before commenting on it. (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/education/30teacher.html?ref=education) ;)


In a newsletter e-mailed to parents this week, the principal and Rick Reedy, superintendent of the Frisco Independent School District, said that Ms. McGee had been denied transfer to another school in the district, that her annual contract would not be renewed and that a replacement had been interviewed.



Sorry 4 teachers and a dozen parents.

My points still stand.
Ottomaton
10-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Apparently you posted while I was editing so I moved this to a new post.

The article also identifies her as the art teacher. Most elementary schools have a single individual who is in charge of all art instruction. The other teachers accompanied took the students as chaperones, but as she was the art teacher she probably would be the one who put the trip together.
SamFisher
10-05-2006, 05:45 PM
Fatty you should have to get a permission slip signed before you hit "submit reply".
Deckard
10-05-2006, 06:11 PM
well, i don't think you want to compare the great state of texas to muhzuruh now do you? c'mon texas is better than that isn't it :confused: :)
It wasn't my intention, suh! :eek:



Keep D&D Asscroft Free.
Fatty FatBastard
10-05-2006, 06:16 PM
Fatty you should have to get a permission slip signed before you hit "submit reply".

Nice retort, Sammy. Exactly what I expect from you. That's why I pretty much ignore everything you say, these days. Apparently, you still feel the need to goad others.

And they call me immature... :rolleyes:
SamFisher
10-05-2006, 06:19 PM
Nice retort, Sammy. Exactly what I expect from you. That's why I pretty much ignore everything you say, these days. :

Right, and that's why you're replying to this thread...next time read the article it's based on so you won't have to revert to "cover fatty's ass from looking irretrievably stupid mode" so quickly from your preferrred "hey hey it's outlandish loose cannon fatty looking for attention mode". Cheers.
Fatty FatBastard
10-05-2006, 06:23 PM
Right, and that's why you're replying to this thread...next time read the article it's based on so you won't have to revert to "cover fatty's ass from looking irretrievably stupid mode" so quickly from your preferrred "hey hey it's outlandish loose cannon fatty looking for attention mode". Cheers.

How exactly did I try to cover my... nevermind. I simply stated that no teacher should be fired when there were 4 other teachers present. Period. Not see how I was back-tracking with that.

As far as being outlandinsh? I write what I feel like. If people choose to respond, so be it. Besides, for someone who posts 12 times a day, you're hardly one to talk about trying to get attention.

Perhaps I'm not the only one who ignores you...
thegary
10-05-2006, 06:24 PM
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