Here we go again...another school shooting

[macalu]

Amish style.

link (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/02/amish.shooting.ap/index.html)

NICKEL MINES, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A gunman killed "a number" of people at a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday in Pennsylvania's Lancaster County, state police said.

The shooter was among the dead, state police Cpl. Ralph Striebig said.

"There are a number of people dead," Striebig said. "The exact number I do not know yet."

[MadMax]

yeah...this one is a little different.

[jo mama]

messed up :(

[Mr. Brightside]

potato gun?

[famicom]

Do they have guns in Amish communities?

[Another Brother]

I guess Jebidiah was having a bad day. :(

[Groogrux]

This is terrible.

[Ottomaton]

Do they have guns in Amish communities?

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[JayZ750]

This is getting a little ridiculous.

I remember hearing on the radio/news a while back that stuff like kids getting kidnapped isn't really happening any more these days, its just in the news a lot more. It was in reference to why parents these days seem to have very tight leashes on their kids. When I was young, for example, I would just ride my bike along my street, eventually throughout the neighborhood, no concerns. Parents don't let their kids do that anymore.

I thought maybe the school shooting was similiar. But this seems seriously out of control...it's like 1 a week lately!

[Cesar^Geronimo]

This is just a couple miles from where I work.

It didn't say the shooter was (or wasn't) Amish (only that his name was Roy).

Amish do hunt and do occasionaly have run ins with the law (mostly teens and drugs).

This is horrible -- these were little kids

[JuanValdez]

Do they have guns in Amish communities?

I was wondering that too, and if they'd have a problem with the choppers and ambulances. So, I looked it up on Wikipedia. What is allowed varies between Amish communities, but in general, if it is a tool that is needed to do a job and not something that would contribute to your vanity, laziness, greed or other vice, it would probably be allowed. So, I would think hunting rifles would be allowed for people who had a need for hunting. And, ambulances would probably be fine for people who needed medical attention. For some reason though, I don't think whoever shot them did it with the sort of weapon the Amish might approve of.

For the children and whoever else was caught in this:

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[Cesar^Geronimo]

In Lancaster county the Amish mingle and mix with the rest of the community. You will see them in stores and restaurants. They also make quite a bit of money off the tourist trade. Selling hand-crafted items, produce, etc....

[oomp]

I grew up close to several Amish communities, they are wonderful people and this is a horrible thing that happened to a very close group of people.

According to police press conference:

As of right now, 3 girls aged 6-13 dead and 7 wounded, all shot execution style in the head.

The guy was a trucker that worked his shift last night, and came home like normal. He walked his own kids to the bus this morning then went to the amish school . He let the boys and adults with infants out. he then tied the girls feet up and barricaded the doors.

How did no one around him noctice what he was up to? So sad.

[MadMax]

I grew up close to several Amish communities, they are wonderful people and this is a horrible thing that happened to a very close group of people.

According to police press conference:

As of right now, 3 girls aged 6-13 dead and 7 wounded, all shot execution style in the head.

The guy was a trucker that worked his shift last night, and came home like normal. He walked his own kids to the bus this morning then went to the amish school . He let the boys and adults with infants out. he then tied the girls feet up and barricaded the doors.

How did no one around him noctice what he was up to? So sad.

ugh.... :(

[FranchiseBlade]

I was wondering that too, and if they'd have a problem with the choppers and ambulances. So, I looked it up on Wikipedia. What is allowed varies between Amish communities, but in general, if it is a tool that is needed to do a job and not something that would contribute to your vanity, laziness, greed or other vice, it would probably be allowed. So, I would think hunting rifles would be allowed for people who had a need for hunting. And, ambulances would probably be fine for people who needed medical attention. For some reason though, I don't think whoever shot them did it with the sort of weapon the Amish might approve of.

For the children and whoever else was caught in this:

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choppers and ambulances are fine for Amish. It is actually fine for them to ride in vehicles. They will often accept rides from non-Amish to go places they need to go. They can not drive or have the vehicles themselves.

[Saint Louis]

I grew up close to several Amish communities, they are wonderful people and this is a horrible thing that happened to a very close group of people.

According to police press conference:

As of right now, 3 girls aged 6-13 dead and 7 wounded, all shot execution style in the head.

The guy was a trucker that worked his shift last night, and came home like normal. He walked his own kids to the bus this morning then went to the amish school . He let the boys and adults with infants out. he then tied the girls feet up and barricaded the doors.

How did no one around him noctice what he was up to? So sad.

Am I the only one who thinks the only rational explanation for this is sudden demonic possession? You send your kids off to school then decide to go play executioner to young Amish female school girls? WTF?

[IROC it]

Makes Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" a little less parodoxical. :(



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[SWTsig]

Makes Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" a little less parodoxical. :(



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that song will never sound the same again.

[Oski2005]

What a bastard. There is no place that is awful enough for this guy to go to to pay for what he did. I just wish these bastards would stop killing themselves so they could at least say what drives them to do these awful things.

[MR. MEOWGI]

What a bastard. There is no place that is awful enough for this guy to go to to pay for what he did. I just wish these bastards would stop killing themselves so they could at least say what drives them to do these awful things.

Supposedly it was an act of revenge for something that happened to him 20 years ago. And supposedly he left notes that explained it all.

[Saint Louis]

Supposedly it was an act of revenge for something that happened to him 20 years ago. And supposedly he left notes that explained it all.

Talk about failing to let go. :(

[bottlerocket]

Makes Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" a little less parodoxical. :(



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[jello77]

this makes me so angry and sad. sad obviously, because of what went down, but it also makes me so angry that this guy is dead....because id have liked him to go down way more painfully. i don't really lean liberal or conservative anymore, and i dont mean to bring politics into this, but this makes me really want the death penalty to be a lot less humane then lethal injection. this f-er deserves to burn.

imagine if it was someone you knew? i dont even know how i would deal...

[aussie rocket]

its scary when these things go down. One leads to another , and another .... in quick succession.

then it all goes quiet for a while - then it happens again!

its a real hard thing to police too. school's arent prisons, you cant keep people in or out.

[MR. MEOWGI]

this makes me so angry and sad. sad obviously, because of what went down, but it also makes me so angry that this guy is dead....because id have liked him to go down way more painfully. i don't really lean liberal or conservative anymore, and i dont mean to bring politics into this, but this makes me really want the death penalty to be a lot less humane then lethal injection. this f-er deserves to burn.

imagine if it was someone you knew? i dont even know how i would deal...

This guy was seeking vengeance too.

[aussie rocket]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=149462

herein lies the face of evil.


Killer's sordid plan sharpens Amish pain
Wednesday Oct 4 06:16 AEST
The truck driver who slaughtered five Amish schoolgirls meant to molest them first and confessed to sexually preying on young relatives 20 years ago, according to police.

Suicidal killer Charles Roberts, 32, was also "angry with God," hated himself over the death of his premature infant daughter nine years ago and dreamed of molesting again, State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said.

The sordid revelations came hours after two Amish girls aged seven and eight died of their wounds after they were shot "execution-style" in the head in the rampage which shattered the idyllic rural village on Monday.



It was the third fatal shooting in a US school in a week and five girls from the peace-loving Amish community were still battling for life after the attack.

With meticulous planning, Roberts took wood, latches and a lubricant to the one-room Pennsylvania schoolhouse, indicating intent to restrain and molest the schoolgirls before killing them, Miller said.

"With the kind of wood and I-bolts and flex cuffs and KY jelly and other things, ... it's very possible that he intended to victimize these children in many ways prior to executing them and killing himself," said the police chief.

"The KY jelly has no exact reason other than the potential for a sexual assault."

Roberts confessed to the past sexual assaults in a mobile phone call to his wife minutes before the slaughter, Miller said.

"He said 'I am not coming home,' and he states 'I molested some minor family members that were three or four years old, 20 years ago'," Miller said.

Roberts would have about 12 at the time.

"It's unknown what type of molestation whether it was fondling, or inappropriate touching or sexual assault or if anything occurred, we don't know."

"In his suicide note, he mentioned he was having dreams of molesting again," Miller said.

There was no evidence schoolhouse victims were molested before they were cut down in a hail of bullets which ended when Roberts turned the gun on himself.

In new details which emerged Tuesday, Miller said a nine-year-old managed to escape before Roberts started shooting.

The killer's wife said he was also traumatized by the loss of an infant daughter who lived for just 20 minutes after birth nine years ago.

"Roberts was angry with God for taking (her) as outlined in the suicide note," Miller said.

The seven-year-old victim died after being removed from life support at Penn State Hershey Medical Center in Hershey, Pennsylvania, a spokesman said. Police said the other girl died in a hospital in Delaware state.

The tragic roll-call of the dead includes; Naomi Rose Eversole, 7; Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12; Marian Fisher, 13; Mary Liz Miller, 8; and her sister Lina Miller, 7.

Three girls, aged eight, 10 and 12, underwent surgery for gunshot wounds at Children's Hospital in Philadelphia, and remained in critical condition.

Two survivors at the Hershey Medical Center were a six-year-old in critical condition and a 13-year-old listed in serious condition, according to spokesman Sean Young.

President George W. Bush said in California he and wife Laura were "saddened and deeply concerned" like other Americans over a string of school shootings in Pennsylvania, Colorado and Wisconsin.

"We grieve with the parents and we share the concerns of those who worry about safety in schools," he said and said his government was planning talks on school safety next week.

Miller said no one had any idea that Roberts, a father of three, planned such a killing in the quiet farm region 35 miles (55 kilometers) west of Philadelphia.

"There were no outward signs exhibited that he was planning something like this," he said.

Roberts ordered the 15 boys aged six to 13 and their teacher, who summoned the police, to leave, keeping behind 10 girls.

Police said Roberts nailed lumber across the inside of doors of the school. The girls were bound with wire and plastic cord and lined up against the blackboard.

Police rushed the building after hearing after hearing several rapid gunshots.

"It appears that when he began shooting the victims, these victims were shot execution-style in the head," Miller told reporters on Monday.

Police found a 9mm pistol, a shotgun, a rifle, a stun gun, two knives, smokeless powder and 600 rounds of ammunition on Roberts's body.

The Roberts family released a statement saying: "Our lives are shattered, and we grieve for the innocent lives that were lost today."

Last week, a 16-year-old schoolgirl was killed when a gunman took six hostages at a Colorado school before opening fire and turning the gun on himself as police stormed a classroom.

And the principal of a Wisconsin high school, shot by a student on Friday, died of his wounds a day later.

[rrj_gamz]

OMFG...This is very sad... :(

There are some sick people in this world and if this isn't a reality check to how precious our loved ones are, I'm not sure what is...Tell someone you love them today...