[Official] Astros @ Braves

[The Cat]

3 outs to save the season. Please guys, is there one more miracle in you? :(

[TMac640]

unbelievable :|

[Groogrux]

I got it frozen on DVR...it was outside...but still too close to take.

DD

Not really sure what you are looking at. That was right down the middle.

[DaDakota]

I can't believe we are going to lose our playoff hopes because of a chopper in front of the mound, a line drive that might have been caught by Everett, and an error by Berkman...

Just wow.

DD

[The Cat]

:( 3 outs in our season.

Although exciting, it probably would have been better to go quietly, rather than go down like this. Heartbrek city.

Definitely. To lose the season based on a combination of Preston Wilson and the absurd nature of that entire 6th inning would be the most painful exit imaginable.

[Zac D]

Two chunks of good news:

1.) Bob Wickman ain't all that good either;

2.) Lot of baseball left to play in St. Louis.

[Groogrux]

OK, maybe not right down the middle, but it was definitely a strike.

[Nick]

:( 3 outs in our season.

Although exciting, it probably would have been better to go quietly, rather than go down like this. Heartbrek city.

Are you kidding me? This run has made the city ALIVE again... has the Astros all over the national scene/media... and has everybody glued to their tv's up till the FINAL series of the regular season.

If you don't like this... you're a pansy. :cool:

[SWTsig]

at least the boys made it interesting...

[DaDakota]

OK, maybe not right down the middle, but it was definitely a strike.

It could have been called either way...but still too close to take...it was a bad at bat by Scott....

3-1 Braves now..

:(

Pressure off for the Cards...goodbye playoffs....at least we got close.

DD

[Groogrux]

Damn.

[BMoney]

:( 3 outs in our season.

Although exciting, it probably would have been better to go quietly, rather than go down like this. Heartbrek city.


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[SamCassell]

Damn, victimized by a former Card.

[The Cat]

This ones on you, Phil.

You have three elite talents at reliever, and with the season on the line, you're trying to buy an inning against the heart of the order with Fernando Nieve. Unthinkable stupidity.

[Nick]

It could have been called either way...but still too close to take...it was a bad at bat by Scott....

Or it was a good set of pitching by McBride... Astros fans have to get better at giving credit to the opposition in baseball.

Then again, Nieve can stop throwing it down the middle to the heart of Atlanta's lineup.

[DaDakota]

If the next pitch is not in the batters EAR...I will be dissappointed in Nieve.....


DD

[The Cat]

Thank you Phil Garner.

[madmax11]

Damn, victimized by a former Card.

WTF NIEVE??????!?!!?!??????

This game has totally sucked, I'm mad.

[krnxsnoopy]

Goodbye.. :(

[DaDakota]

Thank you Phil Garner.

LOL - Can't win many games scoring ONE fricken run.

If the Cards hold on...we are dead....

DD

[TMac#1]

Thats all folks............. :(

Now we can look forward to the Texans game. :(

[rsx_htown]

wow yall jump off the bandwagon quickly

[DaDakota]

If the next pitch is not in the batters EAR...I will be dissappointed in Nieve.....


DD

We have too many nice guys as pitchers.........

Oswalt and Clemens are the only bulldogs we have.....got to KNOCK em down...some time.

DD

[madmax11]

wow yall jump off the bandwagon quickly

Well, thats what happens when you have 0 margin for error.

[Nick]

wow yall jump off the bandwagon quickly

They're not really on the wagon... more like running behind it whenever things start going good, but in the perfect position to stop when things aren't.

[A_3PO]

This ones on you, Phil.

You have three elite talents at reliever, and with the season on the line, you're trying to buy an inning against the heart of the order with Fernando Nieve. Unthinkable stupidity.
I give Garner a pass on this one. Remember the 15 inning game and those same relievers will be needed for long stints in tomorrow's game

[JunkyardDwg]

No matter what happens... this was a fun way to close out the regular season... even if it has more potential for heartbreak.

The thing that sucks though, is I can think of so many reasons why the Astros should make the playoffs but not a single one why the Cardinals should. Sure this team has holes too, but the Cardinals are backing in and would essentially be 1st round fodder. Per the article on ESPN today, would there be anyone outside of St. Louis that would care to see the Cardinals make it into October over the Astros? Combine that with how things are shaping around the rest of the league, Pedro out, Johnson possibly injured; it seems all signs are pointing for us...and then this night is happening. Well, maybe the Brewers can help us out some more.

-I'm thinkin this might be a little more heartbreaking than the endings we had the past two years. To fight so hard, to have everything going your way...and to come up JUST short in the end (if that happens) and to the Braves no less ( :mad: ). Ain't over yet though...and no matter how hard I tried NOT to get my hopes, I did, so this night is definitely deflating. Whatever happens tonight, would be cool if we could come back tomorrow and do the opposite of what's happening tonight, and with a rookie on the mound no less.

[DaDakota]

wow yall jump off the bandwagon quickly

I have always believed it was too much, but hoped for that once in every 25 years miracle....guess maybe next year.

DD

[The Cat]

LOL - Can't win many games scoring ONE fricken run.

If the Cards hold on...we are dead....

DD

You can stay in a lot of games and give your offense a chance in the late innings if you utilize your elite talents at reliever instead of throwing in a young homer prone pitcher with a laser straight fastball with zero movement.

You can also maybe generate more than one run if you can realize that Jason Lane couldn't be an effective hitter against one of us pitching.

[TMac#1]

We have to pray the Brewers have a miracle left in them.

If the Cards hold on, they would have to lose 3 in a row and we would have to win 2 in arow.

[rsx_htown]

They're not really on the wagon... more like running behind it whenever things start going good, but in the perfect position to stop when things aren't.
unfortunatly houston has way too many fans like these.

[Zac D]

**** that. If we lose this one, and the Cardinals win, it's still not like we need everything to go perfectly the next two days to stay in it. At this particular moment, we have to win the same number of games they do in order to force them to play San Francisco with all the pressure in the world on their flimsy shoulders. If results hold tonight, we'll need to win one more than them. So?

This coffin ain't yet nailed shut, fellas.

[TMac#1]

Well, thats what happens when you have 0 margin for error.

Exactly, we had to go undefeated to have just a chance, even then we would need luck.

[DVauthrin]

What the heck is wrong with you people? The season is not over even if the cards pick up a game tonight, which is still not a guarantee.

All the Astros have to do at minimum is get the race to 1/2 game either way by the end of Sunday, and the cards have to play the makeup with SF Monday.

[madmax11]

I give Garner a pass on this one. Remember the 15 inning game and those same relievers will be needed for long stints in tomorrow's game

No, I'm sorry, but how can you say that? We have all bought into the strategy that you manage as if it is game 7 of the playoffs. Basically it is win or die, and in game 7 of the World Series with the game on the line, no way do you put in Nieve. No way.

[JunkyardDwg]

We have to pray the Brewers have a miracle left in them.

If the Cards hold on, they would have to lose 3 in a row and we would have to win 2 in arow.

We'd be 2 games back in the loss column. We'd have to win our last two while the Cards would have to lose 2 out of 3. Still not impossible, especially with Sheet going tomorrow. Force the game with the Giants, who knows what happens.

[nWo34Life]

Fernando Nieve = Doug Miceli (if game holds up)

[DaDakota]

unfortunatly houston has way too many fans like these.

I love how people compare fandom....like it is a badge of courage, or someone is more of a fan than someone else because they view things differently.

Everyone is an equal fan IMHO...and we are all dissappointed......some people voice it, others say....we can still come back....but they are all the same level of fan.

IMHO.

DD

[TMac#1]

2 on 0 out, Pujols looming..... :(

[Nick]

I love how people compare fandom....like it is a badge of courage, or someone is more of a fan than someone else because they view things differently.

So Houston only sells out Rockets/Astros games when they're good... whereas Chicago sells out most of its team's games, regardless.

Yea... those are the same fans.

[rikesh316]

Fernando Nieve = Doug Miceli (if game holds up)

What?

[desihooper]

Huff (PH), Biggio, PH, PH, PH, let's hope there's some magic left in the bats

[Fatty FatBastard]

I've said it the entire time, we needed all 12 to get in. IF St. Louis wins tonight, we're pretty much done.

The pressure needed to stay on them. It won't if they win and we lose.

Quite depressing.

[DaDakota]

I've said it the entire time, we needed all 12 to get in. IF St. Louis wins tonight, we're pretty much done.

The pressure needed to stay on them. It won't if they win and we lose.

Quite depressing.

Yeah, it is what I think too.

DD

[TMac#1]

Wickman's ERA - 1.14

[Zac D]

Trever Miller hasn't been charged with a run since August 13.

It'd take a hell of a lot of waterboarding for me to say he's a good pitcher, but he's certainly gotten people out.

[Blake]

here we go. c'mon stros

[The Cat]

Pujols again.

This team is cursed.

[desihooper]

probably makes more sense to PH palmeiro first and save Huff for the later batters.

[Nick]

Pujols again.

This team is cursed.

Hyperbolize much?

[DaDakota]

Pujols 3 run jack 6-1.

Season over.


GOOD job making it close Astros...that showed heart, now let's retool the team for next year.

DD

[TMac#1]

Wow................this is one heck of a bad night

[BigTex]

they had a base open and they ***************** pitched to him

[DVauthrin]

I've said it the entire time, we needed all 12 to get in. IF St. Louis wins tonight, we're pretty much done.

The pressure needed to stay on them. It won't if they win and we lose.

Quite depressing.

Uh, no they're not done regardless of the outcome tonight in both games. All they have to do is pick up a game in the last two on STL, and they have to play monday vs the Giants and a loss forces a tie.

[Nick]

Nobody should pitch to Pujols if they make it to the post-season... the guy is a god among mortals.

[DaDakota]

they had a base open and they ***************** pitched to him

No, runner on first and 3rd...one out....

DD

[The Cat]

That strike two call to Palmeiro was a joke.

[Zac D]

I think I might hate Albert Pujols less if he didn't have such an annoying name.

[DaDakota]

Nobody should pitch to Pujols if they make it to the post-season... the guy is a god among mortals.

Oswalt owns him......he is vulnerable, but not when you make a mistake.....and I can not stand how he admires his home runs...if I was a pitcher I would put him on his ASS for doing that.

DD

[Nick]

No, runner on first and 3rd...one out....

DD

Unless the bases are loaded, there's a base open when you're pitching to Pujols.

[TMac#1]

7-1 Cards......

Just wasn't meant to be this year........

[JunkyardDwg]

Season is FAR from over despite what happens tonight.

[Fatty FatBastard]

It's all but over. Pujol's just put St. Louis up 6-1, and Garner put Orlando Palsuckmyass up, who couldn't even get on base.

[SamCassell]

Coming back from 7.5 back to .5 back in 9 games was an amazing, unprecedented run in an otherwise disappointing (to date) season. I'm not giving up with 2 games left, but we need to win out and get help twice from 2 bad clubs. I wish the turnaround had happened earlier than it did, because this Astros club is better than what the Cards are running out there. They just didn't show it for about 4 1/2 months.

[JuLiO-R-]

Back-to-Back-to-Back-to-Back Home Runs

I can feel it!

[Blake]

wgy not huff for everett, regardless of his hits tonight

[Shaji]

Season is FAR from over despite what happens tonight.

i like this attitude.

[Nick]

Oswalt owns him......he is vulnerable, but not when you make a mistake.....

Oswalt owns 98% of the league... and that still didn't stop Pujols from hitting a HR against him earlier this year.

He's the best... Babe Ruth was vulnerable too... and he didn't do what Pujols has done during his first 5 years in the big leagues.

[TMac#1]

Back-to-Back-to-Back-to-Back Home Runs

I can feel it!


Calling the LA Dodgers...

[DaDakota]

Season is FAR from over despite what happens tonight.


JYD.....it would be very unlikely.....the Cards would need to lose 2 out of 3, and we would have to win our last 2.......

If the stros won tonight and kept the pressure on the Cards by watching the scoreboard, they would not be so relaxed in ST. Louis.

Everett a hit....Ausmus next...LOL.....game over.

DD

[Blake]

wgy not huff for everett, regardless of his hits tonight

reverse curse, bench ausmus

[JunkyardDwg]

Hell, theoretically this team could still win the division outright after tonight.

[madmax11]

wgy not huff for everett, regardless of his hits tonight

AUSMUS??

[DVauthrin]

It's all but over. Pujol's just put St. Louis up 6-1, and Garner put Orlando Palsuckmyass up, who couldn't even get on base.

You flat out disgust me. Do you remember ALL THE CLUTCH HITS palmeiro has delivered the last week?

And again, all they have to do is win one more game than STL in the last two to force a makeup game with SF. Why this is lost on you is beyond me.

[DaDakota]

Coming back from 7.5 back to .5 back in 9 games was an amazing, unprecedented run in an otherwise disappointing (to date) season. I'm not giving up with 2 games left, but we need to win out and get help twice from 2 bad clubs. I wish the turnaround had happened earlier than it did, because this Astros club is better than what the Cards are running out there. They just didn't show it for about 4 1/2 months.

I totally agree, but our bullpen has been suspect, and our offense inept...the NL teams are all very weak.

We need to find some decent offense next year....get Bags off the books, let Clemens walk....try to resign Petitte and get Carlos Lee and let House play more often....

DD

[Shaji]

JYD.....it would be very unlikely.....the Cards would need to lose 2 out of 3, and we would have to win our last 2.......

If the stros won tonight and kept the pressure on the Cards by watching the scoreboard, they would not be so relaxed in ST. Louis.

Everett a hit....Ausmus next...LOL.....game over.

DD

i dont get why its so unlikely...the cards are still just one game removed from a horrendous stretch, and the stros have been hot....

[Blake]

reverse curse, bench ausmus

why huff and not bruntlett????

[Nick]

They still get the tying run to home plate... resiliency!

[SamCassell]

Geez, Everett and Ausmus back to back clutch hits in the 9th? How often has that happened?

[TMac#1]

Huff game tying 3 run HR.... cmon....cmon

[Zac D]

Holy ****. Is it Huff time?

[desihooper]

come on dude....let it rip

[madmax11]

Holy ****. Is it Huff time?

Come on Huffmeister!!!!!

[TMac#1]

He looked at strike 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Uprising]

Well crap.

We're still alive....but just barely. :(

[DaDakota]

Well, it was a good ride......and we all hoped we were watching something historic....too bad.....history was not on our side.

DD

[The Cat]

What can you do?

Braves four extra players tonight. That pitch wasn't even remotely close to the zone.

[SamCassell]

I totally agree, but our bullpen has been suspect, and our offense inept...the NL teams are all very weak.

We need to find some decent offense next year....get Bags off the books, let Clemens walk....try to resign Petitte and get Carlos Lee and let House play more often....

I agree with that plan other than the Clemens deal. Roger's a flat out stud even at age 44, and I'm going to miss the hell out of him when he's gone. Nobody else brings the intensity he does.

[Nick]

We need to find some decent offense next year....get Bags off the books, let Clemens walk....try to resign Petitte and get Carlos Lee and let House play more often....

Why would you let Clemens walk, when you know his salary has no bearing on what moves the Stros will make/try to make in the off-season?

[JunkyardDwg]

JYD.....it would be very unlikely.....the Cards would need to lose 2 out of 3, and we would have to win our last 2.......

If the stros won tonight and kept the pressure on the Cards by watching the scoreboard, they would not be so relaxed in ST. Louis.

DD

I'm not saying our chances decrease dramatically...but we still have a legitmate shot, especially the way the Cardinals have been playing. I'll take a long shot over no shot any day. Why assume anything with this club, and all the improbable comebacks they've made.

And I stated all the way back to the Philly game that this team could absorb one more loss and still be in pretty good shape. I still believe that. It's entirely possible the Cards split with the Brewers, and if they do and we can win out, we force that pressure cooker with the Giants.

[The Cat]

He looked at strike 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

No he didn't. He looked at a ball way too low and way too outside. Not even close. These umps have been a joke all night long.

[DaDakota]

Why would you let Clemens walk, when you know his salary has no bearing on what moves the Stros will make/try to make in the off-season?

Well if he wants to come back...great, but it just looked like he was done as he walked off and took the ball....

I would not tell him no if he wanted to come back...

DD

[Uprising]

I agree with that plan other than the Clemens deal. Roger's a flat out stud even at age 44, and I'm going to miss the hell out of him when he's gone. Nobody else brings the intensity he does.


He is a great pitcher, but he can't give you more than 5 innings on an everyday scenario.

[madmax11]

BS last strike call and we were real unlucky with the 6th but the Astros win streak and the Cards losing could not carry on forever. Oh well, good try.

[DaDakota]

No he didn't. He looked at a ball way too low and way too outside. Not even close. These umps have been a joke all night long.

Our hitting has been a joke all year.

:)

DD

[rsx_htown]

Our hitting has been a joke all year.

:)

DD
that post on how fans are all equal was probably the dumbest i ever read

[Nick]

Well if he wants to come back...great, but it just looked like he was done as he walked off and took the ball....

I would not tell him no if he wanted to come back...

Well, obviously its up to him... its been up to him/"his decision" ever since before he first became an Astro.

Its just the way you said "let him walk", that had me thinking you'd turn him away even if he wanted to come back.

[TMac#1]

We have to win both games, and they have to lose all 3. Its Over. :(

Whoever got those playoff tix lost 1o bucks a piece in fees.

[The Cat]

Why couldn't this team have lost one of those early games to St. Louis? :(

I was fine with the Astros season as it was 10 days ago... stuff like that happens. To end a season like this (potentially) is one of the most painful things imaginable. Ugh.

[rocketball8]

Time to watch the scoreboard tomorrow afternoon and hope that the Brew Crew can get the win and give us a shot back in the arm with a better chance.

Still Believe. This will only make it sweeter when we make the historic comeback.

Don't give up now.

[The Cat]

We have to win both games, and they have to lose all 3. Its Over. :(

Whoever got those playoff tix lost 1o bucks a piece in fees.

Well, they only have to lose 2 of 3. But still, incredibly unlikely to happen, yes.

[Nick]

Why couldn't this team have lost one of those early games to St. Louis? :(

I was fine with the Astros season as it was 10 days ago... stuff like that happens. To end a season like this (potentially) is one of the most painful things imaginable. Ugh.

Sissy :D

[Zac D]

To end a season like this (potentially)

That's my boy! The Cat still believes, folks - who's with him?! :)

[JunkyardDwg]

We have to win both games, and they have to lose all 3. Its Over. :(

Whoever got those playoff tix lost 1o bucks a piece in fees.

Again, the Cards do NOT have to lose all 3. Under your scenario, we would win outright. If we win our next to and they lose 2 out of 3 we force a tiebreaker. And I definitely like our chances in that. God I WOULD LOVE too see MMP rocking in that game. Please make it so!!!!!

[Kim]

It's not over guys. Stros must win their last 2 and I just want Milwaukee to take 1 of the next 2 from the Cards (hopefully tomorrow). That would force a San Fran game possibly forcing the Cards to start that crappy Jason Marquis guy again.

This was an extremely frustrating game, but let's not lose hope.

[The Cat]

It's not over guys. Stros must win their last 2 and I just want Milwaukee to take 1 of the next 2 from the Cards (hopefully tomorrow). That would force a San Fran game possibly forcing the Cards to start that crappy Jason Marquis guy again.

This was an extremely frustrating game, but let's not lose hope.

It would be Reyes, not Marquis.

[Fatty FatBastard]

You flat out disgust me. Do you remember ALL THE CLUTCH HITS palmeiro has delivered the last week?

And again, all they have to do is win one more game than STL in the last two to force a makeup game with SF. Why this is lost on you is beyond me.

Quite frankly, I could care less how you feel about me.

Am I still going to watch tomorrow? Of course. Is it going to take yet another miracle now? Yes it is. As I said, St. Louis just got the monkey off their back. All they have to do is win two out of three.

Our best chance was to keep the pressure on. This was a very bad day, whether you care to admit it, or not.

BTW, what, exactly, what were you saying 20 games ago, eh? Pay attention to who the true houston fans are, or simply don't say anything.

[TMac#1]

Brewers cut it to 8-3.

The real killer this yr. is going to be that Pujols HR vs. the Padres the other night.

[Blake]

I think the "looking at strike 3" is what hurts the most. Good luck, stros...I'll be watching. It just sucks that we reverted back to our true colors when it counted the most.

Still have faith, but this kills me

[ruddy]

Awesome run by our boys... Still believe althought it is not easy. Anyways i would like to give thanks for the good time to all of the Astros players and btw thanksto all of you guys for the good time the last 2 weeks here in the BBS. Go Stross!!!!

[DVauthrin]

Quite frankly, I could care less how you feel about me.

Am I still going to watch tomorrow? Of course. Is it going to take yet another miracle now? Yes it is. As I said, St. Louis just got the monkey off their back. All they have to do is win two out of three.

Our best chance was to keep the pressure on. This was a very bad day, whether you care to admit it, or not.

BTW, what, exactly, what were you saying 20 games ago, eh? Pay attention to who the true houston fans are, or simply don't say anything.

Did I say it was good thing? No, I didn't. But you sit here and call Orlando Palmeiro a choice name after he gets out tonight, when the guy has had HUGE HITS in multiple games in the streak. It isn't right. That isn't an action becoming of a "true" fan. A "true" fan wouldn't call a player who had multiple key hits in a 9 game winning streak a choice name. Sorry, but that bothers me.

As for me, I've been waiting for this kind of streak since midseason. I never throw in the towel until they are mathematically eliminated. And I'm as much a "true" fan as you are. I have lived in a suburb of Houston all my life, my family has had season tickets 3 years running, and I was at game 3 of the NLCS last year, game 4 of the WS, game 4 of the NLDS in 04, and games 4 and 5 of the NLCS in 04. Baseball is my favorite sport, and I love the Astros. I was the one who persuaded my family to get season tickets 3 years ago when Roger and Andy came on board.

[DieHard Rocket]

I still thought we could do it a week ago if we only lost one ... I just thought the loss was going to be the Phillies, not this one. Nevertheless, it aint over in my mind.

[sammy]

I told myself I would be happy if the Astros made the playoffs OR if we got Bonzi. I guess we cant have it all but there is still a chance. We need the Cards to lose the next 3 (assuming they play SF). We got screwed tonight because it was a lefty out there. The line-up that Garner sent out there is the same line up that was terrible all yr practically. Its worked lately but we made some guy that has a ERA over 4 look like a ace. Im sad but atleast we wont be under .500. The Padres not pitching around Albert was huge. Aww well....hope we come back.....there is a small chance.

[JunkyardDwg]

Awesome run by our boys... Still believe althought it is not easy. Anyways i would like to give thanks for the good time to all of the Astros players and btw thanksto all of you guys for the good time the last 2 weeks here in the BBS. Go Stross!!!!


Ain't dead yet. Save the epitaphs for when it's all said and done. :cool:


Btw...looks like Sampson is going tomorrow. Maybe we'll see another Cy Backe in the making; just another chapter in the miracle run. C'mon gotta still Beelieve!

[BMoney]

The Astros weren't going to win out to end the season. That's crazy. They still have a shot to win their division. I'm not giving up on them.

[DaDakota]

that post on how fans are all equal was probably the dumbest i ever read


LOL - well you define fandom however you want to......it is all a personal choice anyway.

No one is more of a fan than anyone else.....just different opinions.

DD

[TMac#1]

Just keeps gettin worse in St. Louis.....maybe they'll use up all of their runs tonite....

[North Star]

That's it for the Astros. They are done. They are so yesterday. You know it's just too little too late for them to come back.

[DaDakota]

Just keeps gettin worse in St. Louis.....maybe they'll use up all of their runs tonite....

I think they are feeling the pressure off somewhat.

They could still choke, but the Whitesox went through this last year too just before rallying at the very end....that is looking a lot like that.

DD

[sammy]

Just keeps gettin worse in St. Louis.....maybe they'll use up all of their runs tonite....

I was just talking about that with my friend. Hopefully they will be shut out tomm

[solid]

This is not over at all, I still believe, but I do have one question: can anyone explain why that when Clemons is pitching, the Astros cannot hit? I have seen several games like the one tonight. There is no logical reason why this would be the case. It is not like he is always matched up with the ace of the other team. In fact, most of these have come when he is against a young pitcher. Any thoughts?

[DaDakota]

This is not over at all, I still believe, but I do have one question: can anyone explain why that when Clemons is pitching, the Astros cannot hit? I have seen several games like the one tonight. There is no logical reason why this would be the case. It is not like he is always matched up with the ace of the other team. In fact, most of these have come when he is against a young pitcher. Any thoughts?

I wonder if they are putting too much pressure on themselves when he pitches....if that is the case....hypnotize them all and tell them Wandy is pitching...

DD

[Bobblehead]

I still find going 36-10 or winning the wild card after being 15-30 more impressive than this season (if they were to win the division).

Yes, the Astros won 9 in a row..but it was only a possability of going to the postseason because of the Cards losing. Winning 9 in a row is not what makes is all incredible..it's the Cards choking.

What is impressive is how pathetic the Astros played this season...and still had a chance to win the division. That doesn't say much about the NL Central!!!!

[Nick]

Roger's run support has been much better this year than it was last year... we still notice it more when we don't score for him (like watching Mario Williams on every play), but its nowhere near the "shutout per start" run the team was going through last year.

[KaiSeR SoZe]

Well...we ruined roger clemens last game!!

thanks alot astros!!

[hatemavs4life]

Well, no one said this was going to be easy to start with and frankly I had this game pegged for a W. But I guess this James dude is pretty good. Unfortunately for us. :rolleyes:

Well, it's pretty simple win the last 2 games or else time to golf and fish plus, the Cards have to lose at least 1 of the final 2 (preferably both) to force the makeup game with SF.

It would be something for the Stros to do it but no doubt this a double whammy one tonite. I said Sheets or Capuano was good for a W. Cant believe Capuano crapped like that tonite. He never gave us an easy one that I can recall. :rolleyes:

Oh well, it still aint over, til its over but the Stros had better step up their play all around if they want to go to the postseason.

Cant really be mad because what the team has already accomplished is nothing short of remarkable. No one here is gonna bash them because this is a pretty improbable, to near impossible comeback.

[Chuck 4]

Beating Cormier should be no problem. It's Smoltz I am worried about. The guy is nails.

[VooDooPope]

I'm not wearing my jersey any more. Every time I wear it they lose.

Lets go Stros!

[Luckyazn]

Can we really rely on a rookie pitcher to pitch for us in the BIGGEST GAME of the yr? If we lose basically that COULD BE IT for us ...



I'm saying If ST. LOUIS lose in the afternoon vs Mil that we should go with Pettitte tomorrow night.

[Fatty FatBastard]

It will take a miracle now...

Fatty's streak has been ousted

[BigM]

Can we really rely on a rookie pitcher to pitch for us in the BIGGEST GAME of the yr? If we lose basically that COULD BE IT for us ...



I'm saying If ST. LOUIS lose in the afternoon vs Mil that we should go with Pettitte tomorrow night.

well if pettite pitches tomorrow(saturday) and wins then sampon's going to have to pitch sunday in another must win against smoltz no less. he's got better odds tomorrow.

[madmax11]

Anyone else still mad that they played LAAAne and Ensberg last night instead of Brave killer Burke and Huffy the Card Slayer?

[Chuck 4]

Anyone else still mad that they played LAAAne and Ensberg last night instead of Brave killer Burke and Huffy the Card Slayer?

Mad? Maybe. Surprised? Not at all..... Dude, It's Garner...

[RocketManJosh]

Gotta Be today ... I still believe

The Cards are going 1-2 ... If we take care of business we still got a shot

[JunkyardDwg]

Mad? Maybe. Surprised? Not at all..... Dude, It's Garner...

To be fair...Burke has been struggling pretty bad over his last 10 games ( .125, 1 BB, 0 hr, 0 rbis, and 10so :eek: ) while Ensberg has been actually pretty decent as of late ( .325, 6 BB, 6 so, 3 rbis, 1 hr). Also, Huff is quite worse facing lefties than righties, but Lane is just terrible from both sides and has been even worse than his season average over his last 10 while Huff is playing quite well; at this point I think Huff has earned himself a permanent spot in the lineup against lefties and righties alike. So I can understand keeping Burke out, but Huff, no.

[SamCassell]

So I can understand keeping Burke out, but Huff, no.
Huff? You're talking about the guy who had a chance to keep the Astros streak alive at the end of the game, 2 outs, 2 on, down by 3? The guy who struck out looking in his biggest AB of the season? The one batting .249 with average power? He got his shot and went down with the bat on his shoulder.

[JunkyardDwg]

Huff? You're talking about the guy who had a chance to keep the Astros streak alive at the end of the game, 2 outs, 2 on, down by 3? The guy who struck out looking in his biggest AB of the season? The one batting .249 with average power? He got his shot and went down with the bat on his shoulder.

Well he's not a ph specialist, and Lamb and Palmeiro were already used. What other options did they have off the bench, Jimerson...Bruntlett? I hate it when any player takes a called third strike; get that bat off the shoulder. But the way he's been hitting lately, I think he warranted a start over Lane, whether a lefty was pitching or not. Looking at the average is a little misleading too; for one he is having to adjust to NL pitching (facing guys he's never hit against before) plus in about the same at bats he's put up 4 more HRs and 9 more RBIs and is .OPS is about the same as it was in TB.

[SamCassell]

Well he's not a ph specialist, and Lamb and Palmeiro were already used. What other options did they have off the bench, Jimerson...Bruntlett? I hate it when any player takes a called third strike; get that bat off the shoulder. But the way he's been hitting lately, I think he warranted a start over Lane, whether a lefty was pitching or not. Looking at the average is a little misleading too; for one he is having to adjust to NL pitching (facing guys he's never hit against before) plus in about the same at bats he's put up 4 more HRs and 9 more RBIs and is .OPS is about the same as it was in TB.
Not really sure what you're saying... in one sentence you state that Huff is still adjusting to NL pitching, and then in the same sentence you point out that his OPS is almost identical in both places. But if you believe that he's still adjusting to NL pitching, isn't that an argument to keep him out of the lineup? On the other hand, he's a pretty good player, and he's definitely been better than Lane this season. I just have a hard time calling Garner out for going with the righty against a lefty pitcher, considering Huff's poor numbers versus southpaws and the number of righthanders in the Braves' pen. Especially on a night where Huff was ultimately a goat for not even swinging the bat with the game on the line.

[JunkyardDwg]

Not really sure what you're saying... in one sentence you state that Huff is still adjusting to NL pitching, and then in the same sentence you point out that his OPS is almost identical in both places. But if you believe that he's still adjusting to NL pitching, isn't that an argument to keep him out of the lineup? On the other hand, he's a pretty good player, and he's definitely been better than Lane this season. I just have a hard time calling Garner out for going with the righty against a lefty pitcher, considering Huff's poor numbers versus southpaws and the number of righthanders in the Braves' pen. Especially on a night where Huff was ultimately a goat for not even swinging the bat with the game on the line.

I'm not calling Garner out at all...he stuck with the lineup he's been going with during the whole winning streak and I was fine with that. I didn't really have a problem with Lane considering Huff's poor numbers; merely pointing out that Huff is a little less futile against lefty's than Lane is period. And I was stating that Huff is still adjusting to NL pitching, which probably accounts for his poor average, yet despite that he's still putting up decent enough numbers. If we do sign, hopefully he'll creap back up to his career averages (no reason to think he won't).

[RocketManJosh]

Pettitte to pitch tonight and assume Roy to pitch tomorrow if it still matters.

That would leave Roger to start on Tuesday if we can make it to the 1 game playoff

All starts on short rest

Edit: Actually would Roy be able to go tomorrow? It would only be 2 days rest right? Gonna be tough if it is Sampson vs. Smoltz

[JunkyardDwg]

Pettitte to pitch tonight and assume Roy to pitch tomorrow if it still matters.

That would leave Roger to start on Tuesday if we can make it to the 1 game playoff

All starts on short rest

Edit: Actually would Roy be able to go tomorrow? It would only be 2 days rest right? Gonna be tough if it is Sampson vs. Smoltz

Short rest is a risk, but they have absolutely no margin for error now. Gotta go out with guns blazin.

[RocketManJosh]

I can't believe that Roy is going to be pitching tomorrow on 2 days rest so that means Sampson will have to go tomorrow.

We HAVE to win both games and I think I'd rather have Sampson try to win against Cormier and have Andy win on full rest against Smoltz.

I don't like the Sampson v Smoltz matchup if that is what Garner is thinking. Gotta win both so you should put the team in the best position to win both games.

I guess we'll see whats on tap for tomorrow but there isn't a good option I don't think

[DaDakota]

We are dead, all the cardinals have to do is win one of the next two.....DEAD....it was a good ride though.

DD

[JunkyardDwg]

I don't like the Sampson v Smoltz matchup if that is what Garner is thinking. Gotta win both so you should put the team in the best position to win both games.

I guess we'll see whats on tap for tomorrow but there isn't a good option I don't think

I dunno, normally I'd agree...but there won't be a tomorrow if we don't win today. Might as well do everything we can to win tonight and worry about Sunday on Sunday.

[RocketManJosh]

I dunno, normally I'd agree...but there won't be a tomorrow if we don't win today. Might as well do everything we can to win tonight and worry about Sunday on Sunday.

But you HAVE to win both ... I think Garner has to put the team in position to win both games. If the games are going to be pitched by Sampson and Pettitte. Why wouldn't you order them in the order that gives you the best shot to win both. It does NO good to win today and lose tomorrow.

This is what we should have done if we were ahead and only needed 1 win as it gives us a great shot today

[TMac#1]

That shot by Big P was ridiculous. The sign on the wall at that restuarant in the outfiled said 452. Lamb, Taveras and Scott have each hit the ball very hard.

[TMac#1]

Wouldn't surprise me to see us put up double digits tonite.

[RocketManJosh]

5 baserunners and 1 run :(

[rocketfat]

5 baserunners and 1 run :(

that's pretty amazing

[BigM]

But you HAVE to win both ... I think Garner has to put the team in position to win both games. If the games are going to be pitched by Sampson and Pettitte. Why wouldn't you order them in the order that gives you the best shot to win both. It does NO good to win today and lose tomorrow.

This is what we should have done if we were ahead and only needed 1 win as it gives us a great shot today


yeah i don't understand it either. both games are must wins. unless garner is planning on bringing roy on 2 days rest, which is probably ridiculous, why postpone sampson?

[RocketManJosh]

yeah i don't understand it either. both games are must wins. unless garner is planning on bringing roy on 2 days rest, which is probably ridiculous, why postpone sampson?

The only thing I can think of is that he thinks Sampson needs another days rest after pitching 3 innings the other day in Pitt. Other than that, I can't see any good logic in it. I'll be interested to see who goes out there tomorrow if we can pull it out tonight.

[RocketManJosh]

Didn't seem like a great effort there by Aubrey ... maybe it wasnt as close as it looked. Oh well ... Perfect game gone

[rocketfat]

Didn't seem like a great effort there by Aubrey ... maybe it wasnt as close as it looked. Oh well ... Perfect game gone

made up for it a little?

[RocketManJosh]

made up for it a little?

Works for me :)

[Pocket Rockets]

bad call on pettitte there, he pulled the bat back enough and then got hit by the pitch, they ended up reversing the call and cost us a potential big inning :mad:

[JunkyardDwg]

Well this is Pettite's value. He's one of the ultimate big-game pitchers; and he's going on short rest too.

[RocketManJosh]

Tie game ... I guess this is what happens when you get 10 Hits with 2 of them being HRs and only get 2 runs

[RocketManJosh]

This is just sad ... we are falling apart and we are not even behind yet

[Pocket Rockets]

back to being the old astros of earlier this year :(

[Pocket Rockets]

i guess the huff substitution will come back to haunt us now

[Aceshigh7]

i guess the huff substitution will come back to haunt us now

Well, I like Jimerson. Having him out there isn't exactly like having Palmeiro out there. Jimerson has some pop.

[The Cat]

Well, I like Jimerson. Having him out there isn't exactly like having Palmeiro out there. Jimerson has some pop.

Definitely. Clearly, it's better to have a player who hit .247 with 183 strikeouts and only 23 walks in 470 at-bats in AAA than it is to have a player hitting .348 with 7 pinch-hit RBIs in the month of September.

[TMac#1]

Wow, Wickman is a FAT ASS!!!

[JunkyardDwg]

Man this team won't give up!

[Pocket Rockets]

yes, heads up base running by ausmus!

[Nashvegas]

heads up running by Ausmus

[Pocket Rockets]

Well, I like Jimerson. Having him out there isn't exactly like having Palmeiro out there. Jimerson has some pop.

here comes your favorite player ;)

[Nashvegas]

CLUTCH!!!

[TMac#1]

Palmeiro come thru again, hope still alive.

[JunkyardDwg]

Palmeiro coming through YET AGAIN!!

[The Cat]

There's that Palmeiro scrub again, driving in another potential game-winning run. Why in the world is he on this roster anyway? :confused:

[Pocket Rockets]

here comes your favorite player ;)

and he delivered yet again!

[RocketManJosh]

I'd prefer if Garner went with Wheeler over Lidge for the close, but whatever

[TMac#1]

Why is Lidge warming up??? :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Nashvegas]

nice play by the ex card :D

[TMac#1]

Why is Lidge warming up??? :mad: :mad: :mad:


At least we have a bigger cushion.

What an inning, back against the wall against a close with an ERA of 1.14 with ATL. Good job Stros! Go Brewers!

[The Cat]

I'd prefer if Garner went with Wheeler over Lidge for the close, but whatever

Something to think about.

We're desperate. Wheeler hasn't pitched since Wednesday. He said last week he'd like the opportunity to be a starter. Garner seems to want to avoid using hm tonight. Could we perhaps see an extended Wheeler appearance tomorrow - maybe even as a starter?

[DieHard Rocket]

As long as Palmiero has his bat speed he'll be able to play in the big leagues till he wants to quit. The guy is nothing spectacular, hence the reason a lot of people that know little about baseball seem to hate on him ... but he's as good as anyone in the league in a pinch-hit situation.

Gotta love the jinx-job our announcers did on Wickman. Talking him up so much he blows the game (with the help of some poor defense).

You can tell the Astros are a team that has made some miraculous comebacks the last couple of years...they are still playing hard, and you gotta love that.

[YaozaMac]

Great base running by the 'stros. :eek:

[RocketManJosh]

Something to think about.

We're desperate. Wheeler hasn't pitched since Wednesday. He said last week he'd like the opportunity to be a starter. Garner seems to want to avoid using hm tonight. Could we perhaps see an extended Wheeler appearance tomorrow - maybe even as a starter?

Thats not a bad thought ... I think Sampson will start, but at the first sign of trouble we could see Dan for a few innings.

[hatemavs4life]

Yeah, give credit where credit is due. At least this team is going to force the Cards to win tomorrow. Man, Brew Crew force that SF game, please. If only somehow, someway we could get that tiebreaker game at MMP. Just get that Tues game. That's all I'm asking. Is that asking too much? ;)

[AggieRocketFan96]

No stros on TV here in el paso, gotta rely on the board here. have to admit, while watching the live box i got frustrated when the braves tied it, then come to the board to see the stros back up! My aggies already lost a heartbreaker at least God let the stros win!

[hatemavs4life]

C'mon Brad dont embarrass us. :p

[RocketManJosh]

According to the Braves announcers Lidge's September ERA is 6.35 ... I thought all the people here were telling us how hes been doing so much better lately and deserves the closers role?

[Pocket Rockets]

Yeah, give credit where credit is due. At least this team is going to force the Cards to win tomorrow. Man, Brew Crew force that SF game, please. If only somehow, someway we could get that tiebreaker game at MMP. Just get that Tues game. That's all I'm asking. Is that asking too much? ;)

i don't think you are asking too much! just get those crapholes back to houston to play our assblows!

[Aceshigh7]

I don't agree with this pitching change. Lidge was pitching well and his stuff was nasty tonight. No need to bring in Wheeler now.

[JunkyardDwg]

According to the Braves announcers Lidge's September ERA is 6.35 ... I thought all the people here were telling us how hes been doing so much better lately and deserves the closers role?

If tonight's score hold he'll have allowed just 2 runs in his last 9 innings of work, so he has pitched better in the last week.

[JunkyardDwg]

Yeah, give credit where credit is due. At least this team is going to force the Cards to win tomorrow. Man, Brew Crew force that SF game, please. If only somehow, someway we could get that tiebreaker game at MMP. Just get that Tues game. That's all I'm asking. Is that asking too much? ;)

Just one more game at MMP to decide it all, standing room only, crowd going nuts, Clemens perhaps on the mound, ROOF CLOSED.

C'mon...pease let this happen some way.

[Pocket Rockets]

where was the pitch?

[JunkyardDwg]

OMG, is this like "Let's Screw Houston with our officiating Day"

[JunkyardDwg]

where was the pitch?

The pitch was pretty much right down the middle...I have no idea how that was called a ball.

[Pocket Rockets]

this is complete garbage

[RocketManJosh]

this sucks

[AggieRocketFan96]

Yahoo and MLB PBP seems stuck. Can someone pls update the situation?

[Nashvegas]

tying run on first, Laroche up, Chipper on deck.....2-1 count

[RocketManJosh]

man on 1st ... 2 outs ... we're up by 1 ... La Roche up, Chipper on deck ... 2-1 count

[rocketball8]

ESPN PBP is also stuck. It still shows that it is the middle of the ninth.

Do we have any outs yet?

[Nashvegas]

K

astros win

[AggieRocketFan96]

Some kind of conspiracy, pls post some PBP due to this situation.

[Pocket Rockets]

finally! way to get past the poor officiating tonight!

[BMoney]

Thank the baby Jesus. Whew.

[JunkyardDwg]

That was a close one..but we survive to fight another day.

Now please, please, please Brewers...PLEASE win tomorrow. If you're trying to play spoiler then do your freakin job and kick the crap outa the struggling Cards.

[AggieRocketFan96]

Thanks for the update on PBP guys! Watching the computer screen just waiting with abated breath.....How sweet it is!!!!

[rocketball8]

Time to beat Smoltz and the Brew Crew needs to come through with a win tommorrow. I hope they beat the Ace of the stupid birds so there fans and team will feel the pressure.

Come on Astros!!!!

Just get us to MMP on Tuesday.

[RocketManJosh]

I think the Astros somehow know the Cards are going to lose the next 2 games and they want to make it as close as possible. That's the only way I can explain tonights game

[hatemavs4life]

Wow, we must've really pissed off the Bravos with those last 2 playoff losses, especially the last one. :)

Phew, that was a little too close for comfort but we got it done!

Now, to diagnose how to contend with Smoltzie, joy. :rolleyes:

Oh well, Stros give it all you got tomorrow. Max effort, nothing less. Make us proud. :) ;)

[BMoney]

Wow, we must've really pissed off the Bravos with those last 2 playoff losses, especially the last one. :)

Phew, that was a little too close for comfort but we got it done!

Now, to diagnose how to contend with Smoltzie, joy. :rolleyes:

Oh well, Stros give it all you got tomorrow. Max effort, nothing less. Make us proud. :) ;)


Screw the Braves. They still owe the Astros for countless soul destroying losses. I'm talkin' to you, Walt Weiss! If we are out of the pennant race by 50 games I would still love to beat those jerks and their obnoxious fans.

[JunkyardDwg]

Now, to diagnose how to contend with Smoltzie, joy. :rolleyes:

If the past few years have been about exercising our demons (getting past the Braves, winning first playoffs, getting to the WS, etc) then tomorrow's game against Smoltz fits right into that. Just win!

[hatemavs4life]

That was a close one..but we survive to fight another day.

Now please, please, please Brewers...PLEASE win tomorrow. If you're trying to play spoiler then do your freakin job and kick the crap outa the struggling Cards.

Exactly. The last 2 performances by the Brew Crew have been regretable. Queefer and Suxpan? Give me a break.

Should the unfortunate happen, we all should send Bochy a thank you card and wipe it with our asses because of his BONEHEADED move, pitching to Pooholes when Rolen was on deck and two days prior in a similar situation, he struck out! :rolleyes:

Oh well, my opinion ...

[hatemavs4life]

Screw the Braves. They still owe the Astros for countless soul destroying losses. I'm talkin' to you, Walt Weiss! If we are out of the pennant race by 50 games I would still love to beat those jerks and their obnoxious fans.

I agree. Buck the Fraves! We havent crushed them enough IMO. Oh yes, Walt "f**kin" Weiss my sentiments exactly. ;)

[Aceshigh7]

Exactly. The last 2 performances by the Brew Crew have been regretable. Queefer and Suxpan? Give me a break.

Should the unfortunate happen, we all should send Bochy a thank you card and wipe it with our asses because of his BONEHEADED move, pitching to Pooholes when Rolen was on deck and two days prior in a similar situation, he struck out! :rolleyes:

Oh well, my opinion ...

Actually, it was even worse than you describe. Spezio was on deck instead of Rolen. Why they decided to pitch to Pujols instead of Spezio i'll never understand.

[Pocket Rockets]

Exactly. The last 2 performances by the Brew Crew have been regretable. Queefer and Suxpan? Give me a break.

Should the unfortunate happen, we all should send Bochy a thank you card and wipe it with our asses because of his BONEHEADED move, pitching to Pooholes when Rolen was on deck and two days prior in a similar situation, he struck out! :rolleyes:

Oh well, my opinion ...

speizio was actually on deck in that game against pads....which makes it even worse

[hatemavs4life]

I guess this is just meant to go down to the very bitter last wire strand ... man it's brutal being an Astros fan. They wear you out just listening or watching them. Still love them, nonetheless, but they drive me CRAZY man! :D

[hatemavs4life]

Actually, it was even worse than you describe. Spezio was on deck instead of Rolen. Why they decided to pitch to Pujols instead of Spezio i'll never understand.

Ok, thanks for that clarification did not know for certain but sh*t, unless George Herman Babe Ruth is on freakin deck, why in the f**k do you pitch to Pooholes? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Unbelievable! I mean you would think they watched our game 5 last year and they also pitched around him two games prior. I saw that on ESPN and all I could think was Bochy is one unbelievable stupid SOB! Enough said. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :confused: :confused:

[camisgirl]

Hey man, yeah it sucks that the Brewers let us down today but we didn't lose. That in itself is reason for celebration. Tomorrow is the last day of the regular season, you have to think we are going to put someone good on the mound. Who would be surprised if Oswalt played?

[Aceshigh7]

Ok, thanks for that clarification did not know for certain but sh*t, unless George Herman Babe Ruth is on freakin deck, why in the f**k do you pitch to Pooholes? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Unbelievable! I mean you would think they watched our game 5 last year and they also pitched around him two games prior. I saw that on ESPN and all I could think was Bochy is one unbelievable stupid SOB! Enough said. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :confused: :confused:

I completely agree.

[JunkyardDwg]

Ok, thanks for that clarification did not know for certain but sh*t, unless George Herman Babe Ruth is on freakin deck, why in the f**k do you pitch to Pooholes? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Unbelievable! I mean you would think they watched our game 5 last year and they also pitched around him two games prior. I saw that on ESPN and all I could think was Bochy is one unbelievable stupid SOB! Enough said. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :confused: :confused:


Two worst, most boneheaded moments this week in baseball... 1) pitching to Pujols in a late 2-1 game and 2) Cordero throwing a meatball to freakin Spiezio with a 1-2 count and a 2-0 lead late in the game.

Look like our game starts an hour ahead of St. Louis...I think it's imperative that we get off to a good start and hopefully have a lead before the Cards start their game, to put a little more pressure on them. If they see us trailing, that'll probably relax them big time...then again, they may not even give a s**t about the scoreboard since all they have to do is win.

[hatemavs4life]

Hey man, yeah it sucks that the Brewers let us down today but we didn't lose. That in itself is reason for celebration. Tomorrow is the last day of the regular season, you have to think we are going to put someone good on the mound. Who would be surprised if Oswalt played?

I would not be surprised at all. I think we will be pitching by committee tomorrow. Garner gets on last shot for all the marbles so hes gonna have a real short leash for all his pitchers. Hell, Andy and Roger may pitch an inning tomorrow. That might be why Garner pulled Andy when he had only pitched 70+.

Sampson maybe 3, Oz 4 innings, and we'll see from there. I think he definitely will empty the bullpen and the bench if needed. :D

[Roxfan73]

This is where we miss Backe. Sure would have been nice to have him available.

[hatemavs4life]

Two worst, most boneheaded moments this week in baseball... 1) pitching to Pujols in a late 2-1 game and 2) Cordero throwing a meatball to freakin Spiezio with a 1-2 count and a 2-0 lead late in the game.

Look like our game starts an hour ahead of St. Louis...I think it's imperative that we get off to a good start and hopefully have a lead before the Cards start their game, to put a little more pressure on them. If they see us trailing, that'll probably relax them big time...then again, they may not even give a s**t about the scoreboard since all they have to do is win.

Obviously no arguments here. If the Brews can get off to a strong start say 4 to 5 runs ahead or even the longer they stay close, tied or better the more the Cards will be subconsciously scoreboard watching and maybe they make a mistake or two. All it takes is one lapsed moment in the heat of the moment. Brews got the bats we'll see how bad they wish to play spoilers tomorrow.

After todays grievous finish, at least do us the favor of showing fight and compete with the Crapholes, sh*t!

[hatemavs4life]

Well, I'll holler at y'all tomorrow. We'll see what transpires from there. :D :p

Remember, it aint over, til its over! :D :D :D

[Pocket Rockets]

everybody is right! tomorrows games will be pretty crazy....anything can happen and everything will be a live for the moment type move and play. I can't wait, sucks i wont be able to watch any of them (work) but will keep up with gamecast!
two improbables need to happen tom, smoltz and carpenter to be pinned with losses (or at least their teams!) :)

[DaDakota]

If you are the Brewers you aren't going to pitch around Pujols, you are going to let your pitchers go AT HIM to see what you have for next year.

They are not in the penant race, they don't care about the Astros.....it is our team's fault for not playing better all year.

Never leave it up to someone else, take care of your own business and this stuff doesn't happen.

DD

[solid]

Somehow I missed it. Who is pitching for the Astros Sunday, it isn't Pettite as scheduled?

[DieHard Rocket]

Somehow I missed it. Who is pitching for the Astros Sunday, it isn't Pettite as scheduled?

Pettitte started today. Tomorrow's starter is up in the air ... could be Sampson or Hirsch or someone else.

[solid]

Pettitte started today. Tomorrow's starter is up in the air ... could be Sampson or Hirsch or someone else. Oswalt?

[BigSherv]

Man right about now we coudl use Backe and his end of the year heroics.

We have to use roy. We can't save anything for later.

[DaDakota]

It has to be Roy....nothing to lose, probably one and done anyway, but need to get early runs to put pressure on St. Louis.

DD

[Roxfan73]

It'll be Sampson.

[Lil Francis]

It has to be Roy....nothing to lose, probably one and done anyway, but need to get early runs to put pressure on St. Louis.

DDRoy O tomorrow and Clemens in the 1 game playoff? Risky but the best shot at winning.

[RocketManJosh]

It has to be Roy....nothing to lose, probably one and done anyway, but need to get early runs to put pressure on St. Louis.

DD

I don't think they will even think about pitching Roy on 2 days rest which is why I thought the smart move was to have Sampson go up against Cormier and Pettitte against Smoltz on normal rest. That was assuming we would rock Cormier and Chris could give up some runs. We didn't rock Cormier so we may have lost today with Chris so I guess it might be better that we take our chances with him tomorrow. Lets home Smoltz shoulder/elbow start acting up and he leaves some up in the zone.

Hey at least its not the AAA right handed batter lineup right ;)

[jev5555]

interestingly, if we win tomorrow and the cards lose this sets up matt morris versus his old team, stl cards. he's been awful his last five outings. what's even worse for the astros is that morris just might be sympathetic to some of his former mates and throw them some obesely fat pitches. it'll be an uphill struggle either way but we must win tomorrow and pray the cardinals lose forcing them to play extra game(s). and hopefully they make a visit to MMP one last time.

[Smokey]

What stops the Giants from saying f-it and not trying?

I'm sure their players don't want to play a makeup game. There is no incentive.

[The Cat]

interestingly, if we win tomorrow and the cards lose this sets up matt morris versus his old team, stl cards. he's been awful his last five outings. what's even worse for the astros is that morris just might be sympathetic to some of his former mates and throw them some obesely fat pitches. it'll be an uphill struggle either way but we must win tomorrow and pray the cardinals lose forcing them to play extra game(s). and hopefully they make a visit to MMP one last time.

Sympathetic to the team that wouldn't resign him? If anything, there's extra incentive for him, not less.

[Jugdish]

interestingly, if we win tomorrow and the cards lose this sets up matt morris versus his old team, stl cards. he's been awful his last five outings. what's even worse for the astros is that morris just might be sympathetic to some of his former mates and throw them some obesely fat pitches. it'll be an uphill struggle either way but we must win tomorrow and pray the cardinals lose forcing them to play extra game(s). and hopefully they make a visit to MMP one last time.

Yeah, mabye he'll pitch underhand. Or maybe he'll do the 8-year-old bowling throw with two hands, just lob it up there. Or better yet, he'll walk 60 feet and set the ball on a tee.

Then he'll serve them some Cointreau coffee and massage their feet.

[bobrek]

It has to be Roy....nothing to lose, probably one and done anyway, but need to get early runs to put pressure on St. Louis.

DD

Nothing to lose? How about Oswalt's arm? No way Oswalt starts. He'll start Tuesday if necessary.

[DaDakota]

Nothing to lose? How about Oswalt's arm? No way Oswalt starts. He'll start Tuesday if necessary.

Yeah, I thought he was on 3 days rest, not 2..........my bad.

DD

[bobrek]

Yeah, I thought he was on 3 days rest, not 2..........my bad.

DD

It would not be out of the realm of possibility for Oswalt to throw an inning of relief, though.

[Zac D]

It would not be out of the realm of possibility for Oswalt to throw an inning of relief, though.

True - hope it doesn't come to that. I don't recall Roy performing particularly well when he's been pressed into bullpen service.

[JunkyardDwg]

What a perfect way to start the game... like JD said, one physical error and one mental error...and one run home for Atlanta.

[TMac#1]

Good news - Carpenter is scratched for today, and Smoltz actually looks hittable today.

[Pocket Rockets]

Good news - Carpenter is scratched for today, and Smoltz actually looks hittable today.

yea, they are saving him because its not a must win for them...

[TMac#1]

need a clutch hit here!

[AggieRocketFan96]

i would rather see everett attempt a bunt, much better chance to move a runner than him swinging.

[Pocket Rockets]

all u have to do is hit it to the outfield :mad:

[Zac D]

Anyone else seeing the same Google ads I am at the top of the page? :mad:

[WhoMikeJames]

Are you serious? WTF

[TMac#1]

Damn, 2nd and 3rd 0 out, 0 runs :(

[Surfguy]

Umm...this is not looking like a good Astros day. :(

[TMac640]

un....****ing.....believable :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: