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North Star
09-26-2006, 10:22 PM
How bout them White Sux!!!!!!!

Congrats to the Twins for winning the AL Wild Card. However, it's bittersweet. I just don't see them rookie pitchers shutting down the Yankees. I'm not all that thrilled about the Twins going to the postseason.

It's been an unbelieveable year for the Twins. It was not always sweet. #34, rocky start, depleted rotation and OF. All of the adversity they overcame to get into the postseason. Talk about massive progression.

SamFisher
09-26-2006, 10:25 PM
http://i10.tinypic.com/4ftuw5e.jpg

thx for starting a new thread, I didn't have any place to put this. The "defeat" is misaligned but I didn't care enough to fix it.

EddieWasSnubbed
09-26-2006, 10:26 PM
Brilliant!

codell
09-26-2006, 10:27 PM
thx for starting a new thread, I didn't have any place to put this. The "defeat" is misaligned but I didn't care enough to fix it.

As my father always said: "I'd rather you sit on your fat ass and not do anything, than do it half ass"

Roxfan73
09-26-2006, 10:28 PM
Congrats on the Twins WC, NorthStarED!

rrj_gamz
09-26-2006, 10:49 PM
Ok, I'm so fkn glad about the White Sux...I was so tired of hearing Ozzie run his big mouth...They did run the last out of the WS on SC to tell everyone that White Sux are out...That still pisses me off...

A_3PO
09-26-2006, 11:15 PM
Ozzie and AJ Pierszynski (however you spell it) soured me on the Sox this year. I was very happy for my brother and other longtime Sox fans even though they beat the Stros. This year, I think Ozzie and some of the players got too full of themselves and forgot how fortunate they were last season. It was like they just KNEW they were destined to make the postseason this year and when the bubble popped it was too late for them to recover. The Twins just ran 'em over.

BenignDMD
09-27-2006, 12:25 AM
i thought the Astros were eliminated :confused: :confused: :confused:

North Star
09-27-2006, 01:06 AM
The Cards collapse can go on for so long.

Mr. Brightside
09-27-2006, 01:25 AM
i thought the Astros were eliminated :confused: :confused: :confused:

If you listen to North Star, the Astros got eliminated a few days ago. Check out the great, locked thread in the Astros, Texans, Dynamo forum. :D

North Star
09-27-2006, 05:20 PM
Are the Twins delaying the inevitable or are they cheating death?

JunkyardDwg
09-27-2006, 07:18 PM
Are the Twins delaying the inevitable or are they cheating death?

What an original statement...

Are the Astros delaying the inevitable or are they cheating death?





...eh, I really don't care for the Twins myself, but I'm sure glad the Sox can't defend and we still have a chance.

North Star
10-02-2006, 10:43 AM
What a rollercoaster ride it has been for the Twins? Some ups and downs and ups and downs throughout this 2006 season. We Twins fans have been going through a tough time recently with the death of #34. Now, we have reason to give thanks. A new ballpark on the way and then a division title. Hopefully, we'll have more to celebrate later in the month.

North Star
10-03-2006, 09:58 AM
Postseason baseball starts today at noon.

I favor the A's only because of the Twins depleted rotation.

The Cat
10-03-2006, 04:06 PM
Twins are in a lot of trouble... losing at home with Santana isn't a game you gave them much of a shot at all to lose.

By the way, if San Diego loses this game/series, Mike Piazza might be the goat. For those of you not watching, Pujols was just up with a runner on 1st and nobody out. Pujols popped it up behind the plate... but Piazza lost it in the sun and it hit the ground. That gave Pujols new life, and a few pitches later he launches a massive 425 foot shot that puts St. Louis ahead 2-0.

St. Louis isn't the easy out a lot of people think they are. Once you get in the playoffs, it's an entirely new season. And if they win the starts from Carpenter (and he looks very sharp today), all they need is one other game to take this series. I'm cheering against them, but if they win this game today, they're in a very good position to return to the NLCS.

kaleidosky
10-03-2006, 04:06 PM
crazy big hurt hit 2 bombs. Santana looked solid almost the entire game and yet lost. Twins might be done on that... funny how things can turn that fast

North Star
10-03-2006, 05:42 PM
That's it for the Tloses. They are done. They are so yesterday. Like the song goes, too little too late for them to come back.

MadMax
10-03-2006, 06:29 PM
That's it for the Tloses. They are done. They are so yesterday. Like the song goes, too little too late for them to come back.

Sincerely,

The 2004 New York Yankees

francis 4 prez
10-03-2006, 08:32 PM
losing at home with Santana isn't a game you gave them much of a shot at all to lose.




honestly i think i expected it to happen (and since i'm not sure who i want to win this series i don't know if i liked that or not). it's amazing how often someone or some team will have some huge, insane streak going for some stat in the regular season and then, once the playoffs start, at the most crucial part of some game or series, the streak comes to an end.

set a major league record and win 23 consecutive home starts by one pitcher, of course it comes to an end in game 1.

if a relief pitcher has some huge save streak coming in, you can be almost sure they'll blow the save when the series is 1-1 and ready to swing either way.

if a team has won every game they led after 8 innings all season, you know it'll end in the playoffs.

it just seems these streaks are just destined to end in the playoffs and santana's streak was just one more.

francis 4 prez
10-03-2006, 08:35 PM
oh, and the yankees lineup is just obscene when it's all healthy.

damon, jeter, abreu, sheffield, giambi, arod, matsui, posada, cano.


a .342 hitter hitting 9th. arod hitting 6th?! good grief. how do you keep that lineup down?

it's amazing how the yankees are able to take their limited payroll and identify and acquire such diamonds in the rough as damon, arod, giambi, sheffield, and abreu and how they are smart enough to retain guys like jeter and posada at such reasonable salaries.

edit: i knew the yankees lineup made a lot, but i didn't realize it was friggin' $129.4M. 129.4! just for the hitters. and that's with robinson cano only making 381K (that's the .4M). 13, 20.6, 13.6, 10.7, 20.4, 25.6, 13, 12, .381 are the salaries through the order.

Sishir Chang
10-04-2006, 12:15 AM
This was a tough loss for the Twins but Zito flat out pitched Santana. Even though the A's took this one this series is far from over. The Twins lineup of Mauer, Morneau, Cuddyer, and Hunter can still put up lots of offense. Even though they don't have Liriano the rest of the starters behind Santana are decent and the bullpen, especially Nathan are very good. Santana will probably get more one more start and even with today's performance I would still take Santana in a game 5 at the Dome.

Buck Turgidson
10-04-2006, 03:16 PM
Anyone watching the As-Twins today witnessed one of the biggest & dumbest defensive f-ups of all time by Torii Hunter.

RocketMan Tex
10-04-2006, 03:18 PM
Since the Yankmees are a lock to win the Series this year, I ain't even watching it.

Groogrux
10-04-2006, 03:23 PM
Anyone watching the As-Twins today witnessed one of the biggest & dumbest defensive f-ups of all time by Torii Hunter.

What happened?

The Cat
10-04-2006, 03:38 PM
Anyone watching the As-Twins today witnessed one of the biggest & dumbest defensive f-ups of all time by Torii Hunter.

Anyone watching the Dodgers-Mets just witnessed one of the worst baserunning f-ups of all-time. What were J.D. Drew and the third base coach thinking? I don't understand it. That might be worth taking a chance on at home and if the pitcher isn't right behind home plate. But as it was, the entire crowd and the pitcher are telling Lo Duca to turn around, and Drew is dead.

Buck Turgidson
10-04-2006, 03:42 PM
What happened?
Tie game in the 7th (or 8th?), TWO OUTS, man on 1st. Line drive to center, instead of playing it on a bounce & holding the runner at 3rd, Hunter inexplicably decides at the last second to dive for the ball. Misses it by 3 feet, rolls to the wall, inside the park homerun, 4-2 A's.

Cat, I have never, ever, heard of 2 guys getting thrown out at home on the same play. Crazy.

Manny Ramirez
10-04-2006, 03:47 PM
Cat, I have never, ever, heard of 2 guys getting thrown out at home on the same play. Crazy.

I remember a game in the 80's between the Yankees and the White Sox at Yankee Stadium. 2 Yankees were thrown out at home on the same play (it seemed like one was Oscar Gamble but I may be wrong). I remember it because Carlton Fisk was the White Sox catcher.

As for the Twins, they are in some deep doodoo. Things are looking to fall into place very nicely for the damn Yankees. :(

The Cat
10-04-2006, 04:39 PM
Tie game in the 7th (or 8th?), TWO OUTS, man on 1st. Line drive to center, instead of playing it on a bounce & holding the runner at 3rd, Hunter inexplicably decides at the last second to dive for the ball. Misses it by 3 feet, rolls to the wall, inside the park homerun, 4-2 A's.

Cat, I have never, ever, heard of 2 guys getting thrown out at home on the same play. Crazy.

Me either. And what made it worse is that there were no outs! Maybe it's worth taking the chance (if you're the second runner) if there's going to be two outs and the pitcher coming up. But as it was, even with Kent getting thrown out (and I'm not sure how he managed that being on second and it being a double off the wall), you still would've had a runner on third and only 1 out.

As it stands now, that run is the difference in the game.

The Cat
10-04-2006, 04:42 PM
I remember a game in the 80's between the Yankees and the White Sox at Yankee Stadium. 2 Yankees were thrown out at home on the same play (it seemed like one was Oscar Gamble but I may be wrong). I remember it because Carlton Fisk was the White Sox catcher.

As for the Twins, they are in some deep doodoo. Things are looking to fall into place very nicely for the damn Yankees. :(

Wow Manny... awesome memory. August 2, 1985... Sox and Yanks... they just showed the highlight on ESPN. Two guys thrown out at the plate. That one was slightly different, though... the guy rounding second tripped and the second runner was right on his heels. This one, Drew came a full 5-6 seconds later. Bizarre.

North Star
10-04-2006, 05:25 PM
Congratulations to the Oakland A's for advancing to the ALCS. They have the momentum. They are in control of this series. The Twins are demoralized. There is no way they can recover from this. This is a set back. That's it for the them. They are done. They are so yesterday. It's like the song goes, too little too late for them to come back. You Astros fans have it good. You don't have to go through this kind of grief like Twins fans do. Like I said, the Twins were delaying the inevitable when they came back and won the division.

Manny Ramirez
10-04-2006, 05:38 PM
Congratulations to the Oakland A's for advancing to the ALCS. They have the momentum. They are in control of this series. The Twins are demoralized. There is no way they can recover from this. This is a set back. That's it for the them. They are done. They are so yesterday. It's like the song goes, too little too late for them to come back. You Astros fans have it good. You don't have to go through this kind of grief like Twins fans do. Like I said, the Twins were delaying the inevitable when they came back and won the division.

Nice psychological ploy as I have used it many times in the past myself, including most recently in the 2004 ALCS. :D :p

Buck Turgidson
10-04-2006, 07:00 PM
Nice psychological ploy as I have used it many times in the past myself, including most recently in the 2004 ALCS. :D :p
Oakland A's = 0-9 in Division Series clinching games.

North Star
10-04-2006, 08:49 PM
Kitty Kats/Skanks starts at 9-ish. I'll be watching the Stars/Avs game instead.

North Star
10-04-2006, 09:39 PM
Game 2 tomorrow at noon.

Sishir Chang
10-04-2006, 10:44 PM
Tie game in the 7th (or 8th?), TWO OUTS, man on 1st. Line drive to center, instead of playing it on a bounce & holding the runner at 3rd, Hunter inexplicably decides at the last second to dive for the ball. Misses it by 3 feet, rolls to the wall, inside the park homerun, 4-2 A's.

Cat, I have never, ever, heard of 2 guys getting thrown out at home on the same play. Crazy.

Yeah that was painful but I've seen Torii Hunter make that very play several times. It wasn't the smartest play but it is one that he does make. The Twins backs are against the wall but they're resilient whereas the A's in recent years have shown a propensity to snap defeat from the jaws of victory.

GO TWINS!

francis 4 prez
10-05-2006, 03:03 AM
unless i heard it wrong, the A's last inside the park homerun in the playoffs was in 2002, also against the twins, also on a ball torii hunter dove after and missed. crazy. a gold glove CF allowing 2 inside the park homeruns in the playoffs to the same team.



and apparently the 2 dodgers being thrown out at home is the first time it ever happened in postseason history.

North Star
10-07-2006, 11:13 AM
The Twins could only delay the inevitable. Their season was already over back in May. The Twins were in a no-win situation going into the post season. Did not mattered who they played, they were going to get swept. Look on the bright side. They won a new ballpark.

Nice Rollin
10-07-2006, 11:29 AM
LETS GO METS!

Groogrux
10-07-2006, 11:37 AM
The Yankees losing to the Tigers will almost make up for the Astros not making the postseason. God I hate that franchise.

Sishir Chang
10-07-2006, 06:04 PM
The Yankees losing to the Tigers will almost make up for the Astros not making the postseason. God I hate that franchise.

Almost...almost..

ndnguy85
10-07-2006, 06:25 PM
wow..yankees eliminated.

Nick
10-07-2006, 06:28 PM
The Tigers or the A's will be in the World Series this year, representing the "elitist/big money" American League...

This is a testament to teams that stick with their farm system, while adding affordable free agents/veterans along the way (kinda like the Astros).

Go baseball.

m_cable
10-07-2006, 06:30 PM
The Yankees lose. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaa Yankees lose.

Well somebody was going to do it.

BMoney
10-07-2006, 06:32 PM
I am so happy the Yankees lost. I hope Steinbrenner panics and runs A-Rod out of town for a rosin bag and a bag of sunflower seeds.

TMac#1
10-07-2006, 06:37 PM
2006 Tigers = 2005 White Sox........World Champions

DET is the most balanced team, solid lineup, great starting pitching, great bullpen.

However it looks like the city of Detroit may not be standing by tommorow, looks like a riot is in order.

The Yankees have to realize that you cannot build a team by going out and spending a zillion dollars and buying a bunch of all-stars. It doensn't work, they may have a bunch of big slugging big names at every position, but it doesn't make it a good lineup, these old former great pitcher..... They need to blow it up and rebuild the team around Chien Ming Wang in the rotation and Jeter in the lineup. Maybe time to get some new blood on the bench without Torre. Look at the World Championship teams they had, it wasn't big sluggers like Sheffield and Giambi and A-Rod and Randy Johnson and Mussina and kevin Brown. It was guys like Paul O'Neill and Jeter and Bernie Williams and Scott Brosius and Tino Martinez, with guys like Pettitte, Clemens and David Cone and David Wells in the rotation.

First things first, they need to deal A-Rod straight to the Astros, where he will put up the #s he put up in Texas. Berkman and A-Rod, wow.

Uprising
10-07-2006, 09:07 PM
Yankees out.....hahahahahhahahahahhahahaha!

http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

WHOOOOO HOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Okay, back to the party.

The Ming Dynasty
10-07-2006, 11:11 PM
The Yankees have to realize that you cannot build a team by going out and spending a zillion dollars and buying a bunch of all-stars.

Are you kidding? :rolleyes: They've made the playoffs 12 years in a row! I hate NY and am glad they lost, but you've got to be kidding when you say that they aren't building a team by outspending everyone else. If they continure to win one Championship every 5-6 years; then that's 15-20% of the time.

I like you point about the farm system, but do you honestly think the Royals or Devil Rays are going to be able to retain their talent long enough to make the playoffs?

The bottom line is ML Baseball needs a salary cap! I'm sick of seeing the Yankees, Boston and now the NY Mets in the playoffs b/c they outspend everyone else.

TMac#1
10-08-2006, 12:05 AM
Are you kidding? :rolleyes: They've made the playoffs 12 years in a row! I hate NY and am glad they lost, but you've got to be kidding when you say that they aren't building a team by outspending everyone else. If they continure to win one Championship every 5-6 years; then that's 15-20% of the time.
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Made the playoffs 12 yrs in a row??? They haven't won a World Series since 2000 and they have ungodly payrolls. NY doesn't give a f about making the playoffs, if they don't win the WS, their season is just as much of a failure as a team like the Astros not making the playoffs. Making the playoffs is not good enough at all, let alone going out in the first round without a whimper in 2 straight yrs, losing 4 straight to the hated Red Sox. Yankees need to look at the teams who are winning titles, like the White Sox or 03 Marlins or soon to be champion Tigers. You don't win championships by building the teams like they are building them. It obviously isn't working.

Astroholic
10-08-2006, 12:49 AM
Tigers will win the World Series this year if pitching remains the same. The Tigers are the White Sox's World Series winners, but stronger. The pitching staff is flat amazing, and the hitting is strong as it will ever be. As long as the bats don't go silent, the Tigers have a great chance. -- This is coming from an Astros fan, not Yankees or Tigers fan. I do hate the Yankees with a passion though.

The Ming Dynasty
10-08-2006, 01:04 AM
Made the playoffs 12 yrs in a row??? They haven't won a World Series since 2000 and they have ungodly payrolls. NY doesn't give a f about making the playoffs, if they don't win the WS, their season is just as much of a failure as a team like the Astros not making the playoffs. Making the playoffs is not good enough at all, let alone going out in the first round without a whimper in 2 straight yrs, losing 4 straight to the hated Red Sox. Yankees need to look at the teams who are winning titles, like the White Sox or 03 Marlins or soon to be champion Tigers. You don't win championships by building the teams like they are building them. It obviously isn't working.
OK then, name 1 team with more Championships than the Yanks. Better yet, name 4 teams with more championships combined than the Yanks. Can't do it... http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/history/postseason/mlb_ws.jsp?feature=club_champs

The Yankees may not have reached the Holy Grail this year or even since '00 but at least they are competing year after year. Like I said before, I hate the Yankees, but to say that what they are doing is not successful is just plain silly. Collecting the best players year after year is creating an unfair playing field, and I'm glad it hasn't paid off the last 6 years, but to ignore that fact and say that what they are doing isn't working is kind of like playing poker against the house. Sooner or later they are going to win again.

rhino17
10-08-2006, 01:31 AM
Made the playoffs 12 yrs in a row??? They haven't won a World Series since 2000 and they have ungodly payrolls. NY doesn't give a f about making the playoffs, if they don't win the WS, their season is just as much of a failure as a team like the Astros not making the playoffs. Making the playoffs is not good enough at all, let alone going out in the first round without a whimper in 2 straight yrs, losing 4 straight to the hated Red Sox. Yankees need to look at the teams who are winning titles, like the White Sox or 03 Marlins or soon to be champion Tigers. You don't win championships by building the teams like they are building them. It obviously isn't working.


How many other teams have won more than 1 world series since 2000? Obviosly their money spending has worked. They may not have won a WS since 2000 but name any other champions since then that havnt been crappy the next year. At least the Yankees still have a chance to win it all every year. Even if they dont win the world series they are always close and always in contention.

My Lund
10-08-2006, 01:32 AM
OK then, name 1 team with more Championships than the Yanks. Better yet, name 4 teams with more championships combined than the Yanks. Can't do it... http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/history/postseason/mlb_ws.jsp?feature=club_champs

The Yankees may not have reached the Holy Grail this year or even since '00 but at least they are competing year after year. Like I said before, I hate the Yankees, but to say that what they are doing is not successful is just plain silly. Collecting the best players year after year is creating an unfair playing field, and I'm glad it hasn't paid off the last 6 years, but to ignore that fact and say that what they are doing isn't working is kind of like playing poker against the house. Sooner or later they are going to win again.


We already know that the Yankees have a bunch of championship,but note that all their championship teams were properly built teams with a real lineup and excellent all around PITCHING. So if they continue to overpay a bunch of sluggers and have a extremely mediocre pitching staff no they are not gonna win sooner or later.

Nice Rollin
10-08-2006, 02:07 AM
86 LETS GO METS

geeimsobored
10-08-2006, 02:16 AM
All this did was confirm the need for solid pitching come playoff time. You CANNOT win without it.

The Yankees never had any all year. Randy Johnson, who was supposed to lead the staff, has basically fallen apart. He's a shell of himself today. Mussina is good but a #2 starter at best. Wang was decent and probably will lead the staff next year. Jared Wright was a garbage move. Same with Pavano.

The Yankees always chased big name players, but at least they did well. Guys like David Wells, David Cone, Roger Clemens, etc.. all performed well in NYC. And most importantly, the Yankees mixed up their offense. They had free agents but they also had farm system guys. And those guys were leaders. Guys like Scott Brocious (spelling?), Paul O'Neill, Luis Sojo, etc.. They thrived in New York.

The Yankees generally forget that they're at a competitive disadvantage sometimes because of the environment in which they play. Good players either get their careers ruined or leave and then revive their careers. A guy like Estaban Loaiza can do well, then go to NYC and suck, then leave and become good again. A guy like Chuck Knoblauch (the original A-Rod) can be a gold glove second baseman and then just forget how to field because he's too mentally weak to deal with the crowds. (Although Knoblauch could still hit the ball, unlike A-Rod) Cashman needs to not only evaluate the abilities of the player, but also the player's ability to survive and thrive in New York. Too much is paid attention to the former and way way too little to the latter.

The Yankees need to blow up parts of the team and trade for pitching and some prospects to rebuild the farm system. Unfortunately, they've overpaid for so many of these guys that they're all untradeable assets.

Major
10-08-2006, 02:17 AM
Are you kidding? :rolleyes: They've made the playoffs 12 years in a row! I hate NY and am glad they lost, but you've got to be kidding when you say that they aren't building a team by outspending everyone else. If they continure to win one Championship every 5-6 years; then that's 15-20% of the time.

Except their championship teams weren't mostly home-grown with players like Brocious, Williams, Jeter, Martinez, etc being the lineup. Their payroll wasn't out of line at that point. They've started the absurd spending spree the last 5 years, and they've gotten progressively worse, making the WS in '03, losing in the ALCS in '04, and now in the 1st round each of the past two years.

Uprising
10-08-2006, 04:39 AM
Yankees out.....hahahahahhahahahahhahahaha!

http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

WHOOOOO HOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Okay, back to the party.


HA HA YANKS!!! :D :D :D :D

MadMax
10-08-2006, 07:22 AM
All this did was confirm the need for solid pitching come playoff time. You CANNOT win without it.

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AMEN!!!

exactly right.

Groogrux
10-08-2006, 10:08 AM
Best celebration ever.

Sishir Chang
10-08-2006, 11:25 AM
Tigers will win the World Series this year if pitching remains the same. The Tigers are the White Sox's World Series winners, but stronger. The pitching staff is flat amazing, and the hitting is strong as it will ever be. As long as the bats don't go silent, the Tigers have a great chance. -- This is coming from an Astros fan, not Yankees or Tigers fan. I do hate the Yankees with a passion though.

A lot of people seem to be jumping on the Tigers bandwagon but remember this is the same team that got swept by the KC Royals the last week of the season and who's vaunted pitching couldn't hold leads againts the less than fearsome bats of those Royals. Baseball is a strange sport that its hard to tell how momentum will swing. This time last week everyone was predicting a Yankees sweep and a convincingly sound Twins series win. The A's on paper might not be as talented as the Tigers but they're coming off a convincing series win over what should've been a superior Twins team. We can talk about the Twins defensive lapses but in the end the A's still played solid ball to make the most of those lapses and if they continue to play solid ball and the Tigers falter even a little the A's have a great shot of taking the series.

Nick
10-08-2006, 11:27 AM
Best celebration ever.

Easily... culminating when the Gambler decided to pour champagne on one of Detroit's finest.

I'm pretty sure that would = arrest in every other line of work.

Jugdish
10-08-2006, 12:17 PM
I like how people think the playoffs are meaningful and predictable. Four games is your sample size, so team-building analysis is worthless.

The best team in baseball is the team that wins the most games over the course of 162 games.

Sishir Chang
10-08-2006, 08:55 PM
I like how people think the playoffs are meaningful and predictable. Four games is your sample size, so team-building analysis is worthless.

The best team in baseball is the team that wins the most games over the course of 162 games.

In that case then we should do away with the World Series and just hand the trophy to the team with the best record at the end of the regular season.

TMac#1
10-08-2006, 09:52 PM
How many other teams have won more than 1 world series since 2000? Obviosly their money spending has worked. They may not have won a WS since 2000 but name any other champions since then that havnt been crappy the next year. At least the Yankees still have a chance to win it all every year. Even if they dont win the world series they are always close and always in contention.


The point is that those World Series champion teams in the late 90s were not put together like the ones recently. Now they just have a bunch of individual stars and sluggers, but not a TEAM. Those teams with guys like Bernie Williams and Paul O'Neill and Scott Brosius and Tino Martinez, didn't have the payrolls that these teams have had. You can spend a billion dollars and go to the playoffs every year, but it takes a well put together complete team to win a World Series, which is what New York expects every year.


BTW, Cards are gonna get steamrolled by the Mets.

The Ming Dynasty
10-08-2006, 10:18 PM
BTW, Cards are gonna get steamrolled by the Mets.
Why? Cause they have a bigger payroll... :p

TMac#1
10-08-2006, 11:08 PM
Why? Cause they have a bigger payroll... :p


Because they suck.

rhino17
10-08-2006, 11:10 PM
Because they suck.

Exactly, they do SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Astroholic
10-08-2006, 11:39 PM
boooo

Nice Rollin
10-08-2006, 11:54 PM
"Lets Go Mets!"

Astroholic
10-09-2006, 01:08 AM
I hate the Cardinals, I hate the Mets. Sweep in the World Series, Go Tigers!

BigM
10-09-2006, 02:12 AM
i don't like the mets or the cardinals but atleast the mets aren't in our division. i'm pulling for the mets until the world series.

Astroholic
10-09-2006, 02:20 AM
Then....The Tigers or A's?

Buck Turgidson
10-09-2006, 10:47 AM
A lot of people seem to be jumping on the Tigers bandwagon but remember this is the same team that got swept by the KC Royals the last week of the season and who's vaunted pitching couldn't hold leads againts the less than fearsome bats of those Royals. Baseball is a strange sport that its hard to tell how momentum will swing.
See: White Sox, September 2005 & White Sox, October 2005.

MadMax
10-09-2006, 10:53 AM
See: White Sox, September 2005 & White Sox, October 2005.

excellent point. a lot of similarities between those two teams.

Buck Turgidson
10-09-2006, 10:58 AM
excellent point. a lot of similarities between those two teams.
Yep. Very balanced. Only major difference I see is Sox relied on the longball while the Tigers' O reminds me of pre-yackwagon NL baseball. If Detroit can keep their pitching staff together, they'll be good for awhile.

geeimsobored
10-09-2006, 12:39 PM
Yankees out.....hahahahahhahahahahhahahaha!

http://www.johnberman.com/pics/funny/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

WHOOOOO HOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Okay, back to the party.

I feel the need to reemphasize this very important point.

HAHA Yankees lose... THHEEEEE Yankees lose.