[Official] Astros @ Pirates

[Castor27]

All series talk goes in here. DO NOT GIVE PLAY-BY-PLAY! If you need PBP try Yahoo, ESPN, or Sportsline.

9-26 Andy Pettitte, LHP (13-13, 4.31) vs. Ian Snell, RHP (14-10, 4.67) 6:05 on FSSW

9-27 Jason Hirsh, RHP (3-4, 5.83) vs. Shawn Chacon, RHP (7-6, 6.25) 6:05 on FSSW

9-28 Roy Oswalt, RHP (14-8, 3.07) vs. Tom Gorzelanny, LHP (2-4, 3.79) 11:35 on FSSW

[DaDakota]

W W W

SWEEPEROOOOO !!

GO PADS !!

DD

[Groogrux]

W W W.

[NJRocket]

Nothing shocks me anymore....

btw, anyone else going to the one game playoff vs the Cards next Tues at MMP? ;)

[TMac#1]

Get the brooms ready...........St. Louis look the hell out

[ruddy]

W W W

jUST WIN IT BABY!!!!!!!

[RyanED]

I think the Houston Astros will win this game. LEt's take this one game at a time guys. I don;t want to look at the next game until the Houston AStros TAKE THIS GAME AND WIN! :cool: :eek: I am going to make a predicdion! If BRad Lidge pithces in the game, we will LOSE! :mad: :mad: :mad: I also think JAson LAne a nd Orlando Merced will get BIG hits like last night 's game against the Philadelphia Phillies! :D :eek: :p

WE CAN DO THIS! :eek:

[NJRocket]

I think the Houston Astros will win this game. LEt's take this one game at a time guys. I don;t want to look at the next game until the Houston AStros TAKE THIS GAME AND WIN! :cool: :eek: I am going to make a predicdion! If BRad Lidge pithces in the game, we will LOSE! :mad: :mad: :mad: I also think JAson LAne a nd Orlando Merced will get BIG hits like last night 's game against the Philadelphia Phillies! :D :eek: :p

WE CAN DO THIS! :eek:

So if Lidge pitches we will lose? Like last night? :rolleyes:

Orlando Merced? You mean there was one?

[Nick]

Just checked the weather for Pittsburgh (as it seems there's always a rainout there)...


Today and tommorow should look good, but there's a 70% chance of rain for Thursday's day game. Granted, this will probably change by the time Thursday comes around, but the last thing this team needs is to either have games cancelled, or have games postponed and made-up on the Monday after the season.

[MadMax]

You mean there was one?

brilliant Stripes reference! :)

[SwoLy-D]

Firs...!!

Damn.

Wilfrido Wilmer Winifredo

RyanED might be the first EVER poster to put a space between the A and the ND in "and". Classic moment.

[leroy420]

So if Lidge pitches we will lose? Like last night? :rolleyes:

Orlando Merced? You mean there was one?

Ignore him. It's funny at first, but then you realize he's just a moron...then it gets kind of sad.

Got to sweep...nothing else to do but win out. Keep winning and hope that the Padres stay hot and that the Brewers play for some pride in the last weekend of the season.

GO ASTROS!

[rocketfat]

didn't want to start a seperate thread for this question, but can somebody answer this:

my buddy made a large preseason wager on our season win total being over 83.5 (which means that he needs us to finish the season on a 13 game win streak to win his bet :D how crazy would that be).

anyway, the question is, if we were to go to a 1-game playoff, does that count in the regular season standings (therefore enabling him to lose 1 of the remaining games)?

[rrj_gamz]

I am going to make a predicdion! If BRad Lidge pithces in the game, we will LOSE! :mad: :mad: :mad: I also think JAson LAne a nd Orlando Merced will get BIG hits like last night 's game against the Philadelphia Phillies! :D :eek: :p

WE CAN DO THIS! :eek:

huh? you're a...nevermind...

WWW...Yeah, I'm drinking the Astros Kool-Aid...I can't help it, its fun again...We deserve it giving all of our heartache this year...

[macalu]

Dear Astros,

Please stop playing games with my heart.

[MadMax]

Dear Astros,

Please stop playing games with my heart.

just enjoy it. baseball's almost over. your team is still in it. just have fun with it. it will all be over soon enough, no matter what happens. then we have a long offseason until hope springs eternal again.

[NJRocket]

brilliant Stripes reference! :)

was wondering if someone would catch that...

[MadMax]

was wondering if someone would catch that...

i quote that line all the time. very few people ever get it. anytime i'm confused i say, "there was one?" i haven't done it in court yet, though...i'd like to.

[macalu]

So if Lidge pitches we will lose? Like last night? :rolleyes:

Orlando Merced? You mean there was one?
quit feeding the troll. put him on your ignore list.

[NJRocket]

just enjoy it. baseball's almost over. your team is still in it. just have fun with it. it will all be over soon enough, no matter what happens. then we have a long offseason until hope springs eternal again.

may sound crazy...but if we ARENT going to make the postseason....this is the way I want it to happen. I just wish they were home for these last few games so I could go watch.

[MadMax]

may sound crazy...but if we ARENT going to make the postseason....this is the way I want it to happen. I just wish they were home for these last few games so I could go watch.

absolutely...if you're gonna lose, at least go down fighting. at least look respectable.

[desihooper]

I wish the national radio types would lay off the "Don't look now, but the Astros are only 2.5 games out. They're a team nobody wants to face in a short series." Dude, y'all wrote us off and now the team is making their annual Phoenix-like rise from the dead. Stay the F off of the bandwagon. Let us here in this inconsequential, small market enjoy the ride. We'll deal with the rest of y'all in October.

[hatemavs4life]

You know,I have a feeling too and the crystal ball shows "Joker, Joker, Joker!" I mean "WWW". LOL.

Man, after reading some of those STL threads, you get the feeling if Crapnturd goes "kick me here and shove this baseball bat up my ass with no vaseline" there just may be a line to jump out of the Gateway Arch later tonite.

We truly could not have had a better opponent for the Cards to face off with to help culminate the colossal chokejob to come. The Pads are hungry. Keep fightin Dodgers, just win we have to keep dangling the carrot. No joy just yet. :D

Wow, we can be negative but, hell some of them were throwing Pujols under the bus. Wow! I mean as bad as things have gotten we never booed Sir Lance and we never ripped on him in here that I see regardless.

But, they're great baseball fans and we're a bunch of redneck hicks who last week couldnt spell baseball now we are one.

I've heard some say we, Astros fans are classless and rude. I think the opposite. I'd say we are very intelligent and we know how to seize the moment. Example, when we played the Braves in 04, their fans gave them no energy to feed off of. While here we generated enough frickin electricity to power Texas for a month.

Remember in the playoffs, all bets are off and as a fan you grab any psychological advantage you can to create fear and doubt in the opposition. That's what being a fan is ALL about! Remember, the "jailbird" chant in game 4 of the NLDS in reference to Furcal, I started that and surprise he did nothing the rest of the game offensively. I rest my case ...

I hope you all realize the territory we are potentially going into ... this comeback will be greater than the 78 yankees, the 69 mets, and the 51 giants. Ironically, all the above won the world series championship. Whoohoo!

Buckle up, this is where it starts getting fun! :D

[DaDakota]

just enjoy it. baseball's almost over. your team is still in it. just have fun with it. it will all be over soon enough, no matter what happens. then we have a long offseason until hope springs eternal again.

I wish I had your disposition....these games are nerve racking.

DD

[MadMax]

I wish I had your disposition....these games are nerve racking.

DD

i'm nervous during the games, too! :) that's part of the fun, actually!!

but...i just love baseball. i miss it so much when it's gone that, particularly this time of year, i soak it up to last me all during the winter. even when the 'stros are awful, i'm taking it in big time this time of year.

[DaDakota]

i'm nervous during the games, too! :) that's part of the fun, actually!!

but...i just love baseball. i miss it so much when it's gone that, particularly this time of year, i soak it up to last me all during the winter. even when the 'stros are awful, i'm taking it in big time this time of year.

The team is flawed, but so are all the teams, particularly in the National league.

What a great ending it would be for Roger if we can somehow squeak into the playoffs and do some damage.

I am hoping....nay....PRAYING that we make it.

DD

[No Worries]

Sweep.

[Roxfan73]

To be fair, that stltoday site is like going to the ESPN boards or ezboards. Just a bunch of trolls and children acting like trolls and children. The guys at http://www.birdsonthebat.org/ would be a better place to look for a real cards fan reaction. But they are still douchebags.

[macalu]

Wow, we can be negative but, hell some of them were throwing Pujols under the bus. Wow! I mean as bad as things have gotten we never booed Sir Lance and we never ripped on him in here that I see regardless.

i couldn't believe it when i was reading that. some of them were BLAMING Pujols for the Cards suckage. it's almost sad...almost. :)

[Another Brother]

LLL

haven't you guys learned yet!


go stros!

[Nick]

To be fair, that stltoday site is like going to the ESPN boards or ezboards. Just a bunch of trolls and children acting like trolls and children. The guys at http://www.birdsonthebat.org/ would be a better place to look for a real cards fan reaction. But they are still douchebags.

Some would say that this place is more "espn" board then the astrosdaily message board.

[Buck Turgidson]

Some would say that this place is more "espn" board then the astrosdaily message board.
No way, not even close. AD is the kiddie pool.

[Roxfan73]

Some would say that this place is more "espn" board then the astrosdaily message board.

Sadly, there is no Clutchfanslike gold standard for astros discussion. OWA is probably the best, but those guys are a special breed. astrosdaily is where that tard RyanED hails from. That's all I have to say about that!

[solid]

Honestly, most of us wrote them off when they got sweep by the Phillies, so this is just bonus fun. Enjoy the ride. Win or lose, what a way to finish the last week of the season. Astros are all about DRAMA; as the curtain falls they have one more surprise.

[msn]

Some would say that this place is more "espn" board then the astrosdaily message board.
The original astrosdaily board was great; then they shut it down and sent everyone to the EZboards place--and that place is a ridiculous soap opera. I agree that OWA has the best baseball discussion, but it's more of a niche place than CC.net.

[rodrick_98]

WWW or die

STL magic number is 5

[Pocket Rockets]

Honestly, most of us wrote them off when they got sweep by the Phillies, so this is just bonus fun. Enjoy the ride. Win or lose, what a way to finish the last week of the season. Astros are all about DRAMA; as the curtain falls they have one more surprise.

agreed, this is just a bonus and seems like a 2nd season with the way theyve played...
and it gets us closer to the rockets season

[Burzmali]

OWA is an absurd board.

JimR routinely spouts complete BS, and if anybody questions him it's like the end of the world. Earlier in the season when Willy was benched for Burke, he posted that he had received insider information stating that the move was made because of defense. The exact quote was that Willy was "killing the team" with his poor defensive play. Never mind that he wasn't, that he's a better defensive CFer than Burke, that he was struggling at the plate, that Burke was raking at the plate in limited appearences, and that the Astros offense was horrific. Even if you didn't watch Willy's play visually (he was doing fine), his range factor and zone rating bear out that he was far from hurting the team with his defense. ZOMG MATEMATICKS R TEH STOOPIAD LOL.

Not to mention there is a board-wide sentiment of technophobia and a fear of mathematics. Arky Vaughn is the only poster with a brain over there. JimR and Noe are probably the worst. Every statistic except for RBIs is evil and computers are equally evil and should not be trusted. Nothing can be trusted except for actually going to every game and watching. Also, nobody in the Astros management has ever done anything wrong.

[rocketfat]

Anybody....

does a one game playoff count under regular season standings?

[Burzmali]

Anybody....

does a one game playoff count under regular season standings?

Indeed

[Buck Turgidson]

Yes, rockfatty, they do. You have a bet on # wins for the Stros? ;)

[weslinder]

They're done, this series is irrlevant. The fork's still in and they're coming off the grill.

(C'mon Astros, prove me wrong.)

[RocketManJosh]

5-1 in the next 6 and I think we've got a realistic shot. The Pirates have helped us out before this season ... Time to take 3 more from em!

[rocketfat]

Yes, rockfatty, they do. You have a bet on # wins for the Stros? ;)


a buddy of mine has a pretty large one at over 83.5, which means that they have to end the season on a 13 game winning streak, but we were trying to figure out if we could lose one and win the playoff. would be a crazy way to win a bet, huh?

[ROXRAN]

Just win it all! ...Go Astros! :D

[Nick]

Tonight's lineup...

1. Willy (hopefully he can have productive games... .276 isn't that great for a guy with no extra-base capabilities).
2. Lamb (lambo)
3. Berkman
4. Scott
5. Huff
6. Biggio
7. Everett
8. Ausmus
9. Pettite

[Jackfruit]

Wow!! I don't know what to say about this team.

[hatemavs4life]

Alright Stros! Good start. 3-0. :D ;)

[Nick]

Its always good to have a lead before the Cardinals take the field... you know they have to be lookin at that scoreboard, and wondering whehter or not they'll be getting any help.

I don't expect them to lose with Carpenter on the mound... but if they do, I can't imagine how tight that team will be by tommorow.

[Jackfruit]

I don't expect them to lose with Carpenter on the mound... but if they do, I can't imagine how tight that team will be by tommorow.

Yeah I would be very surprised if the Cards lose tonight.

[Jackfruit]

Ha! Andy Petitte's BA is higher than Jason Lane's.

[Nick]

Jeez.... you could see that coming a mile away.

You've got a three run lead, nobody on base, the count is 2-0 to Bay... throw the ball right down the middle and hope he doesn't crush it.

He did.

[Nick]

Alright Andy... you can stop throwing it down the middle (even though Scott screwed up big-time on the double).

[Burzmali]

Pettitte needs to have himself a night against the MFing Pirates. Offense holding up their deal so far.

[The Cat]

The Cards are definitely a little desperate tonight. Edmonds back in the lineup.

[DaDakota]

When did we get Dorn at 3b? Get in front of that ball DORN !!

DD

[DaDakota]

And I don't want Pettite back....let him go, he is another Bob Knepper, good for a couple of years, but in a steep decline, IMHO.

DD

[RocketFan007]

The Cards are definitely a little desperate tonight. Edmonds back in the lineup.

Well he did hit a pinch three run homer last night.

[Major]

And I don't want Pettite back....let him go, he is another Bob Knepper, good for a couple of years, but in a steep decline, IMHO.

DD

5.28 ERA before the break
2.8 ERA after the break

Definitely looks like a decline to me! :)

[DaDakota]

5.28 ERA before the break
2.8 ERA after the break

Definitely looks like a decline to me! :)

yeah, he has had some good games, but he seems to have lost a lot this year and struggled a lot more....not to mention his elbow is balky.

DD

[robbie380]

Well he did hit a pinch three run homer last night.

he just got another concussion putting on his batting helmet.

[Nick]

yeah, he has had some good games, but he seems to have lost a lot this year and struggled a lot more....not to mention his elbow is balky.

You've been spoiled by the good pitching you've seen here the last three years... Pettite is still a very good pitcher, he's recovered from the bad first couple of months, and can still give you more quality outings than most NL pitchers.

Of course he was worse this year.... do you know how good he was last year?

Granted, we can't be spending $10 million a year on him, but the club definitely should try to work out a 1 or 2 year deal at $6-7 million per.

You guys are tossing over Roger and Andy, but you don't realize how hard it is to find guys who give you quality starts (let alone Cy Young candidates)... name some potential replacements before you start getting rid of them.

[Nick]

Pads up 1-0 against Cy Carpenter.

[AzCkR]

I agree Nick, we definately to work something out with Andy. Granted he's a rookie, I thought Hirsh would be able to step in and contribute right away, instead it looks like he might be at best a 4th starter in the rotation next season. If Andy follows Clemens and retires, or just leave through FA, I'm not sure if we'll be able come anywhere near replacing those two.

[JunkyardDwg]

You guys are tossing over Roger and Andy, but you don't realize how hard it is to find guys who give you quality starts (let alone Cy Young candidates)... name some potential replacements before you start getting rid of them.

Who the hell wouldn't want to ride that gravy train for as long as they give you quality starts is my question? We have enough holes on the team already, they don't need to make it bigger by preemptively saying goodbye to Pettite and Clemens. If they wanna come back you do it, as any team out there would love to have them I'm sure.

[TMac#1]

Getting a good start off Carpenter is huge for SD, but Pettite is really scaring me tonight, doesn't look like he has the good stuff tonite. I hope we can hold on, or better yet pour on more runs.

[AzCkR]

Great example of not appreciating good pitching. The Pirates haven't had a 15 game winner since 1999!

[robbie380]

carpenter has just been really lucky. his true skills just showed when he uncorked the wild pitch. CHOKE!!!

[AzCkR]

Who the hell wouldn't want to ride that gravy train for as long as they give you quality starts is my question? We have enough holes on the team already, they don't need to make it bigger by preemptively saying goodbye to Pettite and Clemens. If they wanna come back you do it, as any team out there would love to have them I'm sure.

I wouldn't mind a little home town discount. I'm not expecting one from Roger, but Andy might be willing to help us save a few bucks.

[hatemavs4life]

You've been spoiled by the good pitching you've seen here the last three years... Pettite is still a very good pitcher, he's recovered from the bad first couple of months, and can still give you more quality outings than most NL pitchers.

Of course he was worse this year.... do you know how good he was last year?

Granted, we can't be spending $10 million a year on him, but the club definitely should try to work out a 1 or 2 year deal at $6-7 million per.

You guys are tossing over Roger and Andy, but you don't realize how hard it is to find guys who give you quality starts (let alone Cy Young candidates)... name some potential replacements before you start getting rid of them.

Woody Williams might be available, but the pickins will be thin. That's one advantage we want to keep because, despite everything good pitching still gives you hope pretty much regardless though upgrades for the offense is also a key. Got to keep the pitching solid.

[AzCkR]

Come on Biggio, we need some insurance.

[Uprising]

BGO with 3 rbis already tonight. :eek: :cool:

[Nick]

Woody Williams might be available, but the pickins will be thin. That's one advantage we want to keep because, despite everything good pitching still gives you hope pretty much regardless though upgrades for the offense is also a key. Got to keep the pitching solid.

Also, you have to consider where the Astros play their home games. I know Minute Maid Park has played pretty fair/average the last 2-3 years, but its still a hitters haven... and its just a testament on how good our pitchers have been at making their pitches/hitting their spots when they're at home.

You don't want to sign a guy who's pitched really well in a pitchers park for many years (like any Dodger, Oakland A, Mariner, or Giant)... or any former St. Louis Cardinal for that matter (they're probably all shell-shocked), cause they're going to be mentally intimidated by the short porch.

The lineup is doing the little things well tonight.

[AzCkR]

Thats works. Now Everett's up, aka inning over.

[Uprising]

Thats works. Now Everett's up, aka inning over.

Not quite!

WHOOO!!! RBI for Adam!

6-3 Good Guys! :eek: :eek: :D Cardinals must be sweating right now.

[TMac#1]

I hope we can hold on, or better yet pour on more runs.


Thank you sir may I have another.

[AzCkR]

Thats works. Now Everett's up, aka inning over.

Yes, that was a reverse jinx. ;)

[TMac#1]

Everett was out??? :confused:

I don't know about that.

[AzCkR]

You don't want to sign a guy who's pitched really well in a pitchers park for many years (like any Dodger, Oakland A, Mariner, or Giant)... or any former St. Louis Cardinal for that matter (they're probably all shell-shocked), cause they're going to be mentally intimidated by the short porch.

The lineup is doing the little things well tonight.

Does it really bother pitchers that much? If anything I'd say not sign them because their stats might be inflated. I might just be ignorant, but I've never heard an argument for a hitters park having a large impact on a pitcher psychologically.

[AzCkR]

Another nice play by Ausmus.

[DaDakota]

Belliard ties it up for the CARDS.

:(

[TMac#1]

Cards tie the Padres 1-1 on a Ronnie Belliard homer. :(

[Nick]

Does it really bother pitchers that much? If anything I'd say not sign them because their stats might be inflated. I might just be ignorant, but I've never heard an argument for a hitters park having a large impact on a pitcher psychologically.

You must be Jose Lima's agent... belive me, that entire 2000 Astros pitching staff was completely clueless coming from the Astrodome.

There is a learning curve, and good pitching will still always thrive... but guys who have relied on fly ball outs, or pitch towards contact in general, are prone for danger at MMP.

Its all a moot point... there are no "stellar" FA pitchers that the Astros could target/afford (besides Pettite/Clemens)... they'll look to sign a veteran to replace Backe's spot in the rotation, but he won't be expected to put up sub 3 era's.

[DaDakota]

Got to win the games, but we need help...COME ON PADS !!!!

[Nick]

Are the Pirates in a must win game?

Bringing out their stellar lefty bullpen pitcher this early, to match up with the Astros lefty-laden lineup... sounds fishy.

[AzCkR]

Wow Taveras got helped out twice there.

[Pocket Rockets]

gotta like that error

[Uprising]

How many other people are following the cards game with some sort of game cast? (mlb gameday, cbs sportsline, espn etc. )

[Nick]

Cameron has 1st and 3rd, only 1 out... "be professional, Padres."

EDIT: it worked... sac fly... 2-1 Pads.

[The Cat]

Sac fly for Cameron, Pads lead

[Pocket Rockets]

ive got it on gamecast....wish i had mlb package for the last week or so :mad:

[The Cat]

How many other people are following the cards game with some sort of game cast? (mlb gameday, cbs sportsline, espn etc. )

I'm watching it live while following the Astros on game cast... damn Missouri. :(

[Uprising]

Sac fly for Cameron, Pads lead


WHOOOOOOO! Cuck the Fards!

GO STROS!

[TMac#1]

I really wish we could tack on a fes more runs so we wouldn't have to use Qualls or Wheeler. Those arms need a night of rest.

[Uprising]

I'm watching it live while following the Astros on game cast... damn Missouri. :(


Lol, that sucks man. Keep us updated. Ur going to be faster than my mlb gameday update.

[Nashvegas]

Killer B coming thru....let's go Pad's

[AzCkR]

Pads regain the lead 2-1.

[Pocket Rockets]

go pads...way to grab the lead, its still early tho

[TMac#1]

Padres lead 2-1 :D

[Nick]

I really wish we could tack on a fes more runs so we wouldn't have to use Qualls or Wheeler. Those arms need a night of rest.

Pettite's at 75 pitches... but there's a chance that him, Roy, and Roger will be required to come back at short rest before the season's over. He'll probably come out to start the 7th, but look for Garner to pull him if things get hairy.

Nieve's next... he should stay in as long as his stuff looks good. Springer is also available tonight. Lidge/Qualls/Wheeler have all been used extensively, but you have to expect one of them is able to go if needed.

[The Cat]

Woody starts the inning by plunking Rolen. That's not good.

[hatemavs4life]

Pads back on top 2-1 in the 4th. :D The longer that game hangs in the balance, the more the Cards are going to sweat and the more the fans are going to go on the verge of catatonic. :D :p

Oh yeah, good job Stros 6-3 over half way there. Keep it up! :D :)

[The Cat]

You've got to be kidding me. Ronnie Belliard with another homer. Cards lead 3-2.

[Nick]

Fat-ass Belliard with another HR.

Cardinals fans still hate him though.

[TMac#1]

F'n Belliard. Dammit!!!!!! Cmon woody help your hometown friends

[Nick]

At least the Cards aren't fooled by Woody Williams' smoke and mirrors fastball... something the Astros couldn't figure out all those years.

[Uprising]

CrAP.....2 RUN HR BY BELLIARD :mad:

Lol...go Pads.

[hatemavs4life]

WTF? Who's Belliard Bastard? :rolleyes:

[IC2000]

F'n Belliard. Dammit!!!!!! Cmon woody help your hometown friends
Freaking Ron Belliard! Are you serious??

[Nick]

WTF? Who's Belliard Bastard? :rolleyes:

He's a fat-ass who looks like he's just playing for a paycheck (which he probably is). They got him from Cleveland.

Pettite tried to field the bat there... bad luck.

[TMac#1]

The Padres absolutely cannot allow another run. You cannot expect to get more than 4 off Carpenter at home. He'll probably go the distance to avoid the atrocious bullpen.

[The Cat]

One positive... Carpenter is already at 65 pitches through only 4 innings. If the Padres can get to the St. Louis bullpen for even one inning, they'll have a chance.

Inning over.

[JunkyardDwg]

If the Padres can just get it to the Card's pen...

[Pocket Rockets]

belliard with 2 hrs...really? that guy

[TMac#1]

He's a fat-ass who looks like he's just playing for a paycheck (which he probably is). They got him from Cleveland.

Pettite tried to field the bat there... bad luck.


That guy is bigtime overweight, looks like some wannabe thug or something, probably why the StL fans hate him.

[Nick]

One positive... Carpenter is already at 65 pitches through only 4 innings. If the Padres can get to the St. Louis bullpen for even one inning, they'll have a chance.

I think you'd need an army of thousands to remove Carpenter from that mound tonight... the Cardinals know they have to stop the bleeding.

[Nick]

That guy is bigtime overweight, looks like some wannabe thug or something, probably why the StL fans hate him.

That, and the fact that before these last two weeks, he was pretty atrocious at the plate for them. They probably should have never let Grudzelanek go.

[The Cat]

I think you'd need an army of thousands to remove Carpenter from that mound tonight... the Cardinals know they have to stop the bleeding.

Typically, yes. But the Padres are hitting the ball very well. Their runs haven't come from well-placed bloopers... they're hitting him hard. If he fatigues a little more, he could become very hittable.

[Nick]

Man... the Pirates executing the scouting report to perfection (ie - bunt on Lamb and Pettite).

[TMac#1]

I think you'd need an army of thousands to remove Carpenter from that mound tonight... the Cardinals know they have to stop the bleeding.

I agree. They'll have to knock him around to chase him.

Pettite removed.

[Nick]

Typically, yes. But the Padres are hitting the ball very well. Their runs haven't come from well-placed bloopers... they're hitting him hard. If he fatigues a little more, he could become very hittable.

We'll see... one of the hallmarks of the Cards 6 game losing streak is that they've had the LEAD in every single one of those games.

[hatemavs4life]

Good job, Andy! Smart move, Phil! :D

[Nick]

I agree. They'll have to knock him around to chase him.

Pettite removed.

Nieve better be professional... you don't want to mess with Jason Bay.

[DaDakota]

Belliard goes YARD again...the guy is a .240 hitter...UGH !!

DD

[Jackfruit]

Why Russ Springer???

[The Cat]

Ugh... just what the Cards and Carpenter needed. Quick 1-2-3 inning for the heart of the San Diego offense.

[Nick]

Its worse then I thought... Russ!

Don't hit him.

Cardinals announcers STILL complaining about Carpenter pitching to Berkman... as if it was somebody else's fault that, and Bud Selig forced him to pitch to Berkman. (also, as if Luke Scott would have just gone down without a prayer).

[Jackfruit]

The Cards won't lose today with Ronnie "George Herman Babe Ruth" Belliard playing for them today. All Belliard needs to become Babe Ruth is a crown, a bunch of women, and a funny wink.

[TMac#1]

Its worse then I thought... Russ!

Don't hit him.

Cardinals announcers STILL complaining about Carpenter pitching to Berkman... as if it was somebody else's fault that, and Bud Selig forced him to pitch to Berkman.


I wish I had the MLB.tv, or a password to it.

[Uprising]

SPRINGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

You better not!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

[DaDakota]

Wow....he hit him....Springer !!

UGH.

DD

[Nick]

Is Miller ready? This matchup doesn't look that good.

[JunkyardDwg]

Why they always gotta make things difficult?

[TMac#1]

Doumit is 2 for 3 with 2 HR, vs. Springer

[Nick]

To Russ's credit... I'd rather have him face Doumit then Bay... then again, Doumit with good career numbers against him.

[Jackfruit]

Why Russ Springer???

I saw this coming.

[Nick]

Uggh... painful.

[DaDakota]

Springer is NOT EVEN CLOSE !!!!

The guy is gonna groove one...you can just feel it.

DD

[The Cat]

Unbelievable.

Encarnacion hits the ball about a foot in front of the plate. Instead of taking the sure out at first, the Pads' catcher goes for second. Shortstop drops it and everybody's safe. Two on, one out for Rolen and Edmonds. We're in trouble.

[Nick]

Phew.

[insane man]

Springer is NOT EVEN CLOSE !!!!

The guy is gonna groove one...you can just feel it.

:) or not

[TMac#1]

*exhales*

[Surfguy]

Springer rules! Shame on all of you! ;)

[Pocket Rockets]

Phew.

you can say that again!

[Nick]

Unbelievable.

Encarnacion hits the ball about a foot in front of the plate. Instead of taking the sure out at first, the Pads' catcher goes for second. Shortstop drops it and everybody's safe. Two on, one out for Rolen and Edmonds. We're in trouble.

You start seeing a lot of mediocrity when you watch these so-called "NL playoff teams" in detail.

[AzCkR]

Praise the Lord.

[The Cat]

This is unreal. Rolen hits a perfect double play ball to the third baseman. Booted. Everybody's safe. Bases loaded 1 out for Edmonds. Pads are collapsing.

[hatemavs4life]

Phew.

My sentiments exactly. Thank you, Springs! ;) Crazy inning.

[OldManBernie]

:) or not

dada's reverse jinx to the rescue!

[DaDakota]

Fricken Pads just booted a DP ball and now the bases are loaded with only 1 out.......DANG IT !!

Edmunds up....got to get out of this with only a one run deficit...

Screw it base hit....5-2 game over for the Cards....way to go ....an error RUINS that game...

DD

[Pocket Rockets]

This is unreal. Rolen hits a perfect double play ball to the third baseman. Booted. Everybody's safe. Bases loaded 1 out for Edmonds. Pads are collapsing.

great, to be fair we all thought they would win this one, but if they don't then thats just a bonus for us!

[The Cat]

Ballgame. 5-2 Cards. Oh well, I guess we couldn't expect a win with Carpenter pitching. Still, stings so, so bad that the Pads should've been out of this inning twice.

[DaDakota]

Cards were feeling the pressure, this win for them would be a killer for us......dang......I was hoping for the miracle.

DD

[hatemavs4life]

Maybe, picking up Woody in the offseason isnt such a great idea. :confused:

[DaDakota]

Maybe, picking up Woody in the offseason isnt such a great idea. :confused:


Not his fault he had 2 errors behind him in that inning.

They got 2 runs on only one hit.

DD

[Pocket Rockets]

for some reason i don't think the pads are done....they know the dodgers are up 3-1 and on their heels, so i think they might have some fight left even with carp on the hill

[TMac#1]

We knew that it would be tough for the Padres with Carpenter tonite. We knew the Cards would win. We have to hope that this doesn't give them any momentum. Sigh.....this really is a long shot.

[hatemavs4life]

Brilliant Pads, way to back up your pitcher! :rolleyes:

[AzCkR]

Cards were feeling the pressure, this win for them would be a killer for us......dang......I was hoping for the miracle.

DD

All we can ask for is for the Pads to take two out of three from them. Although it doesn't look good the Pads still time to make up the three runs. If they win tomorrow though then we're in deep trouble.

[hatemavs4life]

Not his fault he had 2 errors behind him in that inning.

They got 2 runs on only one hit.

DD

Man, DAMN!!! :(

[The Cat]

Leadoff single for Gonzalez. Let's all pray together for no double play...

EDIT: unreal. just unreal. How you can stare at that pitch on two strikes...

[DaDakota]

We need at least 3 losses by the Cards, they have 5 or 6 left.....so if they hold on tonight, they HAVE to lose tomorrow, but I don't see them losing 2 of 3 to the Brew crew in St. Louis......unless the Pads come back, I think the Cards will feel the pressure come off after tonight.

DD

[Pocket Rockets]

We need at least 3 losses by the Cards, they have 5 or 6 left.....so if they hold on tonight, they HAVE to lose tomorrow, but I don't see them losing 2 of 3 to the Brew crew in St. Louis......unless the Pads come back, I think the Cards will feel the pressure come off after tonight.

DD

don't the cards have a 4 game set with brewers?

[The Cat]

Tying run to the plate for the Padres. Not that I think it'll materialize, but at least there's a chance. Make a mistake Carp... just one...

[Pocket Rockets]

2 on for pads, cameron up

[TMac#1]

cmon Cameron, jack one!!

[DaDakota]

Bases loaded on an infield single, Roland saves 2 runs by diving and taking away a double...

:(

[The Cat]

Ugh. With the bases loaded, Blum hits an easy tapper to Puols on the first pitch for the force at home. They probably won't get any out of this.

[Pocket Rockets]

lets go blum! one more time

[TMac#1]

Astro killer Geoff Blum...............salami please!!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

Pujols takes the ground ball and throws out for the force out at home.....

bases loaded 2 outs...

at least one hit....get a couple of runs...get closer give us hope.


DD

[The Cat]

Inning, game over.

f you padres. chokers.

[Pocket Rockets]

Ugh. With the bases loaded, Blum hits an easy tapper to Puols on the first pitch for the force at home. They probably won't get any out of this.

crap!

[DaDakota]

Inning, game over.

f you padres. chokers.

Where are you watching it? You are about a minute ahead of me on MLB TV.

DD

[TMac#1]

Dammit!!!!!!! :mad: That was a great chance to score, bastard Padres

[hatemavs4life]

Damn Crapnturd, escape artist jackass!

[Pocket Rockets]

Where are you watching it? You are about a minute ahead of me on MLB TV.

DD

i think hes actually watching the game

[Nick]

Carpenter up 5-2... lets hope lightning strikes twice.

[The Cat]

Where are you watching it? You are about a minute ahead of me on MLB TV.

DD

I'm in Missouri so I'm watching it on cable... that's why. :) No slight internet delay.

[Major]

Inning, game over.

f you padres. chokers.

Yes, because baseball games only last 6 innings these days. That's why the Astros lost 3 of 4 to the Cards and all.

[Roxfan73]

At least Carpenter is at 94 pitches. Maybe they can get a turn at that awesome Card bullpen.

[The Cat]

Yes, because baseball games only last 6 innings these days. That's why the Astros lost 3 of 4 to the Cards and all.

shhhhhh... haven't you ever heard of a reverse jinx? :(

[JunkyardDwg]

On the bright side, Carpenter can't pitch every game for them. Us winning tonight (hopefully) would still keep a ton of pressure on the Cards.

[Nick]

Let Nieve end the game the old-fashioned way... no more bullpen needed tonight.

[Pocket Rockets]

DD,

they can still split the brewers series and have the one game make vs. giants if the cards win tom as long as stros win out

[DaDakota]

i think hes actually watching the game

I am watching it too, on MLB TV or on the internet.......I can watch any game on my PC for like $15 a year....it is amazing.

DD

[hatemavs4life]

Yes, because baseball games only last 6 innings these days. That's why the Astros lost 3 of 4 to the Cards and all.

Not over but, clearly the Pads need to grind hard on Crapnturd! STL doesnt want to use their bullpen short of a jailbreak by the Pads offense. :D

[DaDakota]

DD,

they can still split the brewers series and have the one game make vs. giants if the cards win tom as long as stros win out

We have to get within 1/2 a game or they won't make it up as I understand it.....

DD

[The Cat]

DD,

they can still split the brewers series and have the one game make vs. giants if the cards win tom as long as stros win out

And the Brewers have both Capuano and Sheets starting in that series, not to mention that the Pads have Chris Young going tomorrow. Cards are going to see some tough pitching.

[AzCkR]

DD,

they can still split the brewers series and have the one game make vs. giants if the cards win tom as long as stros win out

I really have no faith in the Giants putting any form of competition in that game. I think we'll need the Cards to lose 3 to have a chance. Why the hell do the Cards not have to find a way fit that game in their schedule , while we have to play Phils after not getting into Philadelphia to 4 in the morning?

[The Cat]

We have to get within 1/2 a game or they won't make it up as I understand it.....

DD

Right. That's why he said if the Cards split with the Brewers. Even if the Cards win tomorow, if we win out and the Cards/Brewers split, we're within 1/2 a game.

[hatemavs4life]

At least Carpenter is at 94 pitches. Maybe they can get a turn at that awesome Card bullpen.

Good one. You know that's the same thing Card fans are dreading. C'mon Pads, make em sweat! :D

[OldManBernie]

1 on... 1 out... come on pads!!!

[The Cat]

Cards are so lucky. They have runners on third and second with 1 out now, but it should be third and second with a run already in and nobody out. Klesko led off the inning by crushing a pitch... only to have Pujols make a Gold Glove quality leaping catch to rob him.

[Jackfruit]

Pads in scoring position now. Men on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out

[TMac#1]

Damn Padres have 9 hits. Capitalize you bastards!!

[Nick]

Pads getting some goood swings against Carp... they need to deliver the knockout blow.

[BMoney]

"I'll take a bloop single for two runs, Alex"

[DaDakota]

Cards are so lucky. They have runners on third and second with 1 out now, but it should be third and second with a run already in and nobody out. Klesko led off the inning by crushing a pitch... only to have Pujols make a Gold Glove quality leaping catch to rob him.


He hit it hard, but Pujols made the play look better than it was, he really didn't have to jump all that much.

DD

[DaDakota]

Right. That's why he said if the Cards split with the Brewers. Even if the Cards win tomorow, if we win out and the Cards/Brewers split, we're within 1/2 a game.

How do you split a 3 game series?

Bases loaded only ONE out......NOW is the time........108 pitches for Carpenter, he is laboring.

DD

[TMac#1]

Bases loaded 2 stright innings lets go Padres!!!!!!!!!!

[Pocket Rockets]

bases loaded

[Nick]

Carpenter is gassed... but the Cardinals hands are tied because of the ****ty bullpen.

Bard better be ready to drive one.

[BMoney]

How about a stab-in-the-heart grand slam for the Padres right now..

[DaDakota]

108 pitches for Carpenter, he is laboring....come on PADS !!

DD

[Pocket Rockets]

How do you split a 3 game series?

Bases loaded only ONE out......NOW is the time........108 pitches for Carpenter, he is laboring.

DD

thats why i said it was a 4 game set...not 3

[The Cat]

Double, one run game. Tying run at third with 1 out... can we just get a sac fly here?

[Nick]

How about a stab-in-the-heart grand slam for the Padres right now..

I'd go out and buy a Padres hat if that happened.

[OldManBernie]

LET'S GO PADRES!!!

[DaDakota]

DOUBLE within 2 now at 5-4, runners at 2nd and 3rd.

DD

[BMoney]

That'll do!

[IC2000]

LET'S GO PADRES!!!
Go f-ing padres!!!!!! 5-4 cardinals

[Nick]

WOO... Go Bard.

Buh-bye Cy-Carp.... typical Cardinals announcers, blaming the "fielding position" for a pretty well hit double down the line... just like they blamed Rolen for not fielding Orlando's hit.

[TMac#1]

2 run double, tying run on 3rd, 1 out..........Carpenter in trouble

[Pocket Rockets]

yes!!

funny how the last 2 pages have nothing but the cards pads game

[Jackfruit]

5-4 now.

[Nick]

Bard... now Branyon... go KILLER B's!

[IC2000]

Go f-ing padres!!!!!! 5-4 cardinals
branyan sucks and is a strikeout machine

[The Cat]

2 strikes... Branyan is K prone... bad combination here I'm afraid.

[Pocket Rockets]

looks like more bullpen action

[Nick]

2 strikes... Branyan is K prone... bad combination here I'm afraid.

Pretty unprofessional if he doesn't get this run home... also, I bet the Red Sox wish they had Freddy Sanchez back.

[DaDakota]

thats why i said it was a 4 game set...not 3

AHA, so they have 5 games left after tonight.......with the last 4 in St. Louis against the Brew crew....I get it now.....

I have MADE it to the party..

:D

DD

[Nick]

Cardinals announcers again talking more about post-season awards, like MVP and Cy Young for Pujols and Carpenter, instead of worrying about what's about to happen to them... damn elitists!

[The Cat]

If we miss the playoffs by one game, come back to that strike 3 call. Terrible, terrible umpiring.

[DaDakota]

WTF was that ??????

Branyan just got called out on a VERY high strike call......

DD

[RocketManJosh]

Ugh! Horrible strike call just possibly cost the Padres the tying run at the least

[AzCkR]

Wow, why don't you givem a little more leeway there blue. That was high as hell.

[Nick]

TERRIBLE CALL UMP! (we are now switching fully to Cards vs. Padres mode, in case some of you are joining us late).

[Jackfruit]

Good win Stros. Now let's hope the Cards cooperate.

[TMac#1]

Astros win - step 1 - check
Padres win - step 2 - cmon Pads!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

Carpenter is hanging curve balls UP in the zone and Cameron let it go...dang it.

DD

[BMoney]

Alright, Cameron...put one in the bleachers!

[The Cat]

MIKE CAMERON!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!

[RocketManJosh]

Hell Yeah baby!!! SD up on top!

[Nick]

Cameron doing his best Ensberg impression... they need a Berkman.
EDIT: WOOOO!

[Nashvegas]

hell yeah.....GO PADS!!! Cameron with the clutch 2 out double

[DaDakota]

DOUBLE !!!!

Padres take a 1 run lead 6-5.....OMFG !!!!!

If the Pads can hold on...the Cards will REALLY start gripping, they are feeling it...


DD

[AzCkR]

Hells yes!!!!!!!!! Go Pads.

[geeimsobored]

Mike Cameron!

[Roxfan73]

FECKIN' AWESOME CAMERON!

[Jackfruit]

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! I love you Mike Cameron (in a heterosexual way).

[BMoney]

It feels strange rooting for the Padres...it's like rooting for Austin Kearns a few years ago.

[sammy]

Padres are hot too.....lets hope they can hang on

[RocketManJosh]

This umpire is horrible .. can't believe that was called a swinging strike from behind the plate (the first strike not the third one) ... Hope the Padres relievers get those calls

[Nick]

an 0-2 mistake by Carpenter... but its still because he made the mistake of pitching to Berkman! :D

6 runs allowed in a game your team HAS to have... that's not Cy Young material, cards announcers... you can stop worrying about that.

[AzCkR]

They're leaving Carpenter in? Come on do some more damage.

[TMac#1]

PADS LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CY WHo??? CARPENTER BLOWS IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sammy]

They're leaving Carpenter in? Come on do some more damage.

No trust in the bullpen anymore

[DaDakota]

4-5-6 in the bottom of the 7th.....

Hold on PADS !! Hold on !!

DD

[Jackfruit]

Is this game on some channel that I don't know about?