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LongTimeFan
07-27-2006, 09:04 PM
http://houston.astros.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060727&content_id=1578772&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

HOUSTON -- Like most general managers this time of year, Tim Purpura has been on the phones around the clock as Monday's non-waiver trade deadline approaches.

Unlike in years past, however, the exchange of calls is not on an equal plane. Purpura and his staff have been reaching out to other clubs much more than clubs are calling the Astros.

The reason for this is simple: With so many teams in some sort of race, whether it's for the division or Wild Card, there aren't as many sellers as usual.

"There are still clubs today that I talked to that said, 'We're not sure if we're a buyer or seller yet,'" Purpura said. "I understand that point of view. We clearly have not taken that point of view of being a seller. We want to acquire somebody. We want to add to our club. We've got a big investment in this ballclub and will try to maximize that investment."

Purpura is, first and foremost, looking for offense. Adhering to his policy not to discuss players that interest him or players whom other clubs have asked about, Purpura confirmed that most of the players he's looking at are considered high-impact hitters.

"I guess sometimes it's all in the eye of the beholder," Purpura said. "We may covet a guy who's a potential offensive guy for now but also a guy who can grow into a position."

What Purpura doesn't want is a short-term rental, a la Randy Johnson or Carlos Beltran. But the big names on the trade market potentially fit that bill. Nationals outfielder Alfonso Soriano is a free agent after this season, as is Brewers outfielder Carlos Lee.

Orioles shortstop Miguel Tejada is in the midst of a long-term contract, but any player who is traded in the middle of such a contract holds the right to demand a trade once the season is complete. Many players use that right as a bargaining chip to renogotiate their contract, as Moises Alou did following the 1998 season.

That means in addition to absorbing more than $48 million of Tejada's contract, which expires after the '09 season, the Astros would be looking at what would likely be a costly renegotiation process.

Although it remains to be seen if the Astros can be serious players for any of those three, Purpura said he's confident something could happen by Monday's 3 p.m. CT deadline. Even with the Astros' $106 million payroll, Purpura isn't ruling out stretching it a bit more for the right deal.

"That's always the challenge," he said. "Especially if you're acquiring a top tier-type player, who's usually got a top tier-type salary attached to him.

"The other club is looking at prospects, and you have to find a way to equalize the money. We were able to do that very well with Aubrey Huff. We took on $1.4 million, [the Devil Rays] picked up $1.6. It was a good deal from a financial point of view for us, it was a good deal from a baseball point of view for us. That's the goal.

"It's very clear we're stretched to the limit payroll-wise. In our conversations with [owner] Drayton [McLane], he hasn't said, 'Don't spend a nickel.' His whole challenge to us to improve the ballclub. That's what we're going to try to do. You worry about the money after you get the pieces put together."

Ensberg takes BP: Morgan Ensberg hit on the field for the first time since going on the disabled list on July 10, and the third baseman sounded optimistic about his progress.

Ensberg also took grounders at third and tossed the ball lightly to second base, but he didn't test his right shoulder with any laser throws to first. That will come in time.

Ensberg has no timetable on when he may be activated from the disabled list.

"I hope it's sooner rather than later," he said. "We have to see how my shoulder reacts now. We can go ahead and do some work with it but then we have to see if it's going to flare up. I'm optimistic. I think this was a very good day, and I think this was a good step forward."

See you in San Diego: It's no secret that Jeff Bagwell plans to spend much of the rest of his life in San Diego, so it's only fitting that the longtime first baseman will have a presence in the visitors' clubhouse when the Astros play at Petco Park next week.

Purpura plans to meet with Bagwell in San Diego, mainly to discuss his desire for Bagwell to have a prominent role within the organization when his retirement becomes official, which will likely happen upon the conclusion of the 2006 season.

"I think that would be a positive for our club," Purpura said.

Bagwell has been in and out of the Astros' clubhouse this year, but his visits have been sporadic. He's leaning toward not having another shoulder surgery, and the next step will be to come to terms with the likely possibility that his playing career is over. He's spent much of his free time traveling and being with his family, but Purpura is hoping Bagwell will want to be be more of a presence down the road.

Purpura would love to see Bagwell more often this season, but the GM will not force the issue.

"He's facing presumably the end of his career," Purpura said. "I don't want to force him into anything he's not comfortable doing. But I think we're going to visit with him, catch up. When his career is done, I'd love to have him around, doing what Nolan [Ryan] does [as a special assistant to the GM]. Doing what Roger [Clemens is] going to do. Being with young players, come to Spring Training. If we can get there, I'll feel good about it."

Odds and ends: Manager Phil Garner said he expects Orlando Palmeiro to use all seven days of his bereavement leave, which began Wednesday. The rules state that a player who is on bereavement leave must miss a minimum of three days but no more than seven, and Palmeiro, whose father passed away, will probably be gone all week. Jason Lane is with the Astros in Palmeiro's place, but the Astros can send anyone with options to Triple-A when Palmeiro returns. ... Brad Ausmus' next appearance as catcher will mark his 1,000th. No catcher in franchise history has ever made 1,000 appearances. ... Craig Biggio extended his National League record with his 50th career leadoff homer on Wednesday.

Coming up: The Astros will begin another series with a Wild Card contending team on Friday when they host the Arizona Diamondbacks for a three-game weekend set. Right-hander Brandon Backe (1-1, 4.50) will face D-Backs righty Enrique Gonzalez (3-2, 4.85).

liamrock
07-27-2006, 09:15 PM
I don't believe any of this propaganda....Stros are who they are...a below .500 ballclub that doesn't have any business giving up pitching prospects when their staff has 2 shaky options in Backe and Buchholz....I say bring up Hirsch and forget the pipe dream of adding Tejada....

:mad:

Rox Addict
07-27-2006, 10:45 PM
Nothing against you Longtimfan but have you noticed that your post has been up for several hrs and theres only two posts including this one ? Everyone is just sick Of Timmy Cheeto's P and his hourendous team the Asstros...We are sick of getting our hopes up for trades and wins... I have become numb to this team and if they trade Yeah if they don't Yeah..I just don't care about this season anymore. I wish Timmy and Drayton could just call it quits now but I understand no one should be a quiter not even me but if I don't I'm gonna have a heart attack....Thanks for the post :)

msn
07-27-2006, 11:07 PM
I say bring up Hirsch and forget the pipe dream of adding Tejada....

:mad:
Hirsh. Is. Hurt.

(cue broken record)

...and another thing: if the Astros really are a bad team with no business giving up pitching prospects, then why on earth would you want to bring one up before he's ready and on top of that while he's hurting?? If you're going to cash the season in, then do so. Leave your kids in you have no faith in at all, and if they do well (see Elarton, Scott ca. 2000) then their trade value balloons.

JuLiO-R-
07-27-2006, 11:25 PM
I'm tired of all this talk. I wanna see something actually happen. :mad:

Major
07-28-2006, 12:03 AM
Nothing against you Longtimfan but have you noticed that your post has been up for several hrs and theres only two posts including this one ? Everyone is just sick Of Timmy Cheeto's P and his hourendous team the Asstros...We are sick of getting our hopes up for trades and wins... I have become numb to this team and if they trade Yeah if they don't Yeah..I just don't care about this season anymore.

Geez. If you are sick of the team and don't care about the season, why on Earth do you keep posting about it? :confused:

TMac640
07-28-2006, 12:47 AM
I'm tired of all this talk. I wanna see something actually happen. :mad:

nothing will until the very last minute if it does


always has been that way.

Nice Rollin
07-28-2006, 12:49 AM
REALIZE that morgan ensberg is a bum.....trade him while people think he's good!

rikesh316
07-28-2006, 12:49 AM
I doubt Purpura has the guts too do something big.

Aceshigh7
07-28-2006, 01:25 AM
Whatever happens, I hope it's more beneficial than Huff. The guy has done jack **** for us. He hits a 3 run homer in his first game which we would have won regardless thanks to Berkman's go-ahead hit prior to that, and that's it. Huff has been crap offensively and defensively since we got him.

Zac D
07-28-2006, 03:26 AM
Dear Rox Addict,

Where is Gregonomics when you need him?

trickywhiteguy
07-28-2006, 04:01 AM
Whatever happens, I hope it's more beneficial than Huff. The guy has done jack **** for us. He hits a 3 run homer in his first game which we would have won regardless thanks to Berkman's go-ahead hit prior to that, and that's it. Huff has been crap offensively and defensively since we got him.

he hasn't preformed up to his potential offensively since he got here but i am gonna have to disagree when you say he hasn't done anything defensively he has made many fine plays highlighted by the one tonight and the on the other night both where he dove to his right and threw the runner out

MadMax
07-28-2006, 09:14 AM
i get the sense that:

1. most of you are casual baseball fans only recently interested because of the astros recent success; and/or

2. hoops fans or football fans first.

bobrek
07-28-2006, 09:24 AM
Whatever happens, I hope it's more beneficial than Huff. The guy has done jack **** for us. He hits a 3 run homer in his first game which we would have won regardless thanks to Berkman's go-ahead hit prior to that, and that's it. Huff has been crap offensively and defensively since we got him.

In that particular game, do you think everything would have happened exactly the same if Huff had not hit that 3 run HR? Without the HR the score would have been 2-1. Based on Lidge's performance this year, wouldn't it have been entirely possible that the save would have been blown?

If you take any particular incident out of the course of a game, it changes the entire dynamic.

But on your other point, I agree, Huff has not been good offensively or defensively since being acquired. He has muffed some relatively routine infield plays. He does have a small offensive sample size, so hopefully he'll pick it up.

Buck Turgidson
07-28-2006, 09:47 AM
i get the sense that:

1. most of you are casual baseball fans only recently interested because of the astros recent success; and/or

2. hoops fans or football fans first.
DING! DING! DING!

Serious lack of acumen around here.

BigSherv
07-28-2006, 09:51 AM
Blah, blah, blah.

Timmy, every day you wait is another game we lose by not getting one of these baserunners home. We left 7 on last night.

msn
07-28-2006, 10:23 AM
I doubt Purpura has... gut... big.
hmm... :D

Willis25
07-28-2006, 10:27 AM
He's working the phones...



http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/images/yourgallery/timmy.jpg

NJRocket
07-28-2006, 11:13 AM
Here's a few Astros tidbits from Keith Law's Insider chat...

Rob (DC): Now that Lee has been dealt, think it will cause a domino effect with hitters being dealt (like soriano, and abreau)?

Keith Law: Soriano is going to be dealt anyway, but it will be interesting to see if this lights a fire under other clubs looking to add a major bat (Houston, for one), since the supply of such players is dwindling.

Justin (Houston): Any chance the Astros add another bat before the deadline?

Keith Law: They want to, but again, they're limited by what's on the market, and to date I have not heard them in hard on Soriano. They like Tejada, but they're waiting for Baltimore to figure out what they're doing.

Yousif (Houston,TX): Any chance the astros can get Soriano or Tejada without giving up their best pitching prospect, Jason Hirsh?

Keith Law: I doubt it - and you know what? I'd give up Hirsh in a heartbeat. He's not so good that I'd make him untouchable; at best I think he's a fourth starter in the big leagues. I think Troy Patton is the better prospect anyway.

Buck Turgidson
07-28-2006, 11:24 AM
at best I think he's a fourth starter in the big leagues.
Well, there goes whatever credibility statboy had.

NJRocket
07-28-2006, 11:26 AM
Well, there goes whatever credibility statboy had.


Not to be/sound argumentative...but how would you know that Hirsh is any better than that at the major league level? I mean, he gave his opinion on a guy who has never been in a major league rotation...maybe he is wrong...maybe he is right. I dont think he lost credibility.

Buck Turgidson
07-28-2006, 11:36 AM
Not to be/sound argumentative...but how would you know that Hirsh is any better than that at the major league level? I mean, he gave his opinion on a guy who has never been in a major league rotation...maybe he is wrong...maybe he is right. I dont think he lost credibility.
I don't *know*, the Astros don't *know*. There's no guarantees. But pitching translates, and the Astros *think* he has top-of-the-rotation stuff, based on actually knowing & working with the kid.

I'm willing to bet a whole lot of money that Keith Law hasn't seen Hirsh pitch more than a couple of innings in exhibition (Future's, AAA All-Star) games.

Tha TC
07-28-2006, 01:18 PM
He's working the phones...



http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/images/yourgallery/timmy.jpg

cdfu. Hopefully he pulls somethin off