ESPN INSIDER: Ensberg non moving and Astros no longer into Tejada

[Brando2101]

I think this was big enough to garner its own thread as it is actual news.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2522380


one baseball man who has spoken with Houston GM Tim Purpura says he would be "shocked" if Ensberg winds up getting traded... Houston also doesn't expect to re-sign Aubrey Huff, which means Ensberg still looms as their long-term third base solution. Plus, Ensberg is still on the disabled list with a sore shoulder, and there are doubts he'll even make it off the DL before the trading deadline arrives.

and


Tejada has been linked heavily lately with the Astros, in a deal that allegedly would send shortstop Adam Everett, pitcher Fernando Nieve and hot outfield prospect Hunter Pence to Baltimore. But according to an official of one club that has been speaking with both teams, the Astros have backpedaled away from that proposal at the speed of sound.


Watch them both get traded tomorrow

[Uprising]

I don't wanna see Mo traded. I'd love to have Tejada....ofcourse only if he was to stay for more than the remaining bit of this season.

[ak47]

why arent we gonna re sign huff, just let ensberg at the end of the season.

[superden]

I wonder what ARE we doing exactly...

[Hmm]

I wonder what ARE we doing exactly...

Cutting our losses?


Throwing in the towel?


Tanking?


Calling it a season?

[Gene the PIG]

I don't care WHAT Huffy is batting right now, he's twice as good & disciplined as Ensberg offensively. As a pure hitter, I mean.

If true, that's nuts. Just nuts.


Lets stick with Ausmus & Everett after this year too. Sign them up long term. :rolleyes:

[arkoe]

I don't wanna see Mo traded. I'd love to have Tejada....ofcourse only if he was to stay for more than the remaining bit of this season.

If I remember right, he's signed through 2009.

[arkoe]

I don't care WHAT Huffy is batting right now, he's twice as good & disciplined as Ensberg offensively. As a pure hitter, I mean.

If true, that's nuts. Just nuts.

Morgan has a higher OBP and OPS along with more home runs and RBIs than Huff so far over the year despite the fact that his batting average fell so low. The only person on the team that he trails in OBP, OPS, or HRs is Lance. Wilson and Lance is the only players with more RBIs. I'd have to say Ensberg's more than a disciplined hitter.

If Ensberg could stay healthy I don't think people would be questioning him.

[Kerfeld]

If I remember right, he's signed through 2009.

That is right, but I think as part of his contract he can demand a trade after this season. I sure hope this s a smokescreen and the stros actually pull this trade off. Something tells me if Hunsicker was the GM here this would get done somehow.

[Drewdog]

yay.

Can we at least get back to .500? That would cure my urge to fire the whole team......

[Joe Joe]

Not re-signing Huff kind of sucks, but with Ensberg, Lamb, and Berkman, the Astros have plenty of Corner IFs. I just thought they would throw him into Left.

[Ric]

I think this was big enough to garner its own thread as it is actual news.
technically, it isn't "news,' it's speculation, and it was posted in another thread.

[MadMax]

I don't care WHAT Huffy is batting right now, he's twice as good & disciplined as Ensberg offensively. As a pure hitter, I mean.

If true, that's nuts. Just nuts.


Lets stick with Ausmus & Everett after this year too. Sign them up long term. :rolleyes:

huff has certainly been more consistent. but ensberg has defintely been a more disciplined hitter than huff.

i think ensberg's problems this year are health-related injuries. he needs to recover and get back, soon.

[NJRocket]

That "backpedaled away at the speed of sound" thing is old news.....nothing new here

[VesceySux]

You forgot the last paragraph with the awesome typo:

"The Tigers, meanwhile, are said to not be interested in acquiring Tejada if the Astros stick to their asking price: a package that would begin with Jeremy Bonderman or Justin Verlander, according to Booth Newspapers."

I don't know about you, but I'd gladly take Verlander in order to "allow" Baltimore to trade Tejada to the Tigers. :D

[Major]

huff has certainly been more consistent. but ensberg has defintely been a more disciplined hitter than huff.

i think ensberg's problems this year are health-related injuries. he needs to recover and get back, soon.

Ensberg's disciplined in the he walks alot, but he also strikes out a lot. Huff does much less of both. This year, Ensberg has 70 strikeouts - Huff has 30, in almost identical number of at-bats. On a team that really suffers from untimely strikeouts, I think Huff is a good change of pace in that he seems to be a good overall contact-guy. It probably is a big part of why he's able to average 100 RBIs a season even in off-years (until this year, of course, with his spectacular 4 RBIs in 12 games with the Astros :().

[Nick]

I don't see why this is turning into a Ensberg vs. Huff debate. They can easily keep both (Ensberg still has 2+ years of organizational control), and let Mike Lamb go. Even though Lamb is having a good year, he doesn't have the capability to put up the consistent huge numbers that these other two have in their careers... I'd be fine with letting him go to the AL to DH permanently (only if Ensberg is completely free of his lingering problems).

[No Worries]

I don't care WHAT Huffy is batting right now, he's twice as good & disciplined as Ensberg offensively. As a pure hitter, I mean.
So if Ensberg hists .200, we can pencil .400 in for Huffy?


Like shooting fish in a barrel ..

[Gene the PIG]

Ensberg changes his batting stance every time he goes in a slump, which is often. He goes months & months without a homer, needs tender loving care from whatever hitting caoch we have at the time, & then reels off 10 in two weeks. He disappeared completely in the WS last year, COMPLETELY ... that's called a lack of discipline, & I wouldn't mind seeing him go bye bye, just not for total peanuts. Get SOMETHING for him.

Huff is one of three players to average 100 RBI's & 30 homers the last 3 or 4 years. Something like that. You saw the stats the day we got him. Someone else can look it up. I'm not.

He's better than Ensberg.

[rrj_gamz]

Cutting our losses?


Throwing in the towel?


Tanking?


Calling it a season?


E, All of the above...

[spence99]

Huff is hitting .154 with runners in scoring position this year. Yeah, he doesn't strike out, but he's also not clutch. I think alot of people want to say Huff is better by default because of what they have seen of Ensberg this year.

[Buck Turgidson]

Huff is hitting .154 with runners in scoring position this year. Yeah, he doesn't strike out, but he's also not clutch.
2003-2005

RISP: .284 / .384 / .530
Close & Late: .295 / .366 / .485

BTW, here's Derek Captain Clutch Jeter's numbers:

RISP: .288 / .380 / .405
C&L: .249 / .352 / .392

[JunkyardDwg]

The Astros are gonna have to either pick up the option on Preston Wilson or sign Huff in the offseason...they don't need to keep both, but they should keep one.

[Phillyrocket]

I'll just throw this in here from the LA Times:

Among the third basemen the Angels have inquired about are the Chicago Cubs' Aramis Ramirez (.266, 22 homers, 63 runs batted in), Arizona's Chad Tracy (.278, 14 homers, 56 RBIs) and Houston's Morgan Ensberg (.236, 19 homers, 44 RBIs).

http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/angels/la-sp-angrep26jul26,1,5674340.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-mlb-angels

[VesceySux]

The Astros are gonna have to either pick up the option on Preston Wilson or sign Huff in the offseason...they don't need to keep both, but they should keep one.

At this point, there's a better chance of hell freezing over than the Astros picking up Wilson's option. Unless, of course, Purpura somehow thinks Wilson is worthy of $24 million over 3 years, in which case Astros fans will surely burn down MMP.

(I vote for Huff.)

[Rox Addict]

I'm so sick of all this I can't wait until Monday comes and the deadline has passed. I just don't understand the Astros and why they haven't made any moves other than acquiring Huff to better this team. Not signing Huff would be a big blow that would just tell us that they could care less about this team. As for the Astros signing Wilson in the offseason I could see that because that would be a bad move and they obviously want a losing team :mad:

[Bobby60]

Morgan has a higher OBP and OPS along with more home runs and RBIs than Huff so far over the year despite the fact that his batting average fell so low. The only person on the team that he trails in OBP, OPS, or HRs is Lance. Wilson and Lance is the only players with more RBIs. I'd have to say Ensberg's more than a disciplined hitter.

If Ensberg could stay healthy I don't think people would be questioning him.

Huff hits a HR in his first game as an Astro. Since then he's done absolutely nothing. Maybe he's hanging around Preston the Big K Wilson too much.

[crose]

I'm so sick of all this I can't wait until Monday comes and the deadline has passed. I just don't understand the Astros and why they haven't made any moves other than acquiring Huff to better this team. Not signing Huff would be a big blow that would just tell us that they could care less about this team. As for the Astros signing Wilson in the offseason I could see that because that would be a bad move and they obviously want a losing team :mad:
you might be the most unreadable poster in this forum. seriously, can you whine any more? I bet that if you took a road trip with some friends, and the car ran out of gas, you would probably squeal "the car is out of gas, the car is out of gas!"