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trickywhiteguy
07-23-2006, 02:11 AM
Pettitte ponders his future

BY ROGER RUBIN
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Andy Pettitte
He has won 180 games, has two 20-win seasons and twice has been named to the All-Star team. His teams have always reached the postseason and he's played in seven World Series and been a champion four times. Andy Pettitte isn't through his 12th big league season and already he's had a career that almost anyone would envy.

Three years ago, when he left the Yankees to sign with his hometown Astros, Bombers fans couldn't imagine what their club would look like without him. Now that his contract is about to expire, Pettitte finds himself imagining life without baseball. "I can't say that I feel I'm 100% sure I want to play next year and I can't say I'm definitely not going to play," Pettitte said yesterday. "I have no idea. I really don't even know if I want to play.

"I don't know where I'm at on anything. I wish I had more answers," said Pettitte, who will not face the Mets this weekend. Playing his first nine seasons with the Yankees, Pettitte enjoyed plenty of success, albeit with a price. He has started more postseason games than any other pitcher. In 34 playoff starts he's thrown 212 innings - basically an entire extra season crammed into the 11 he'd already played - and is 14-9 with a 4.08 ERA.

"All my close friends that I talk to about it, it's exactly what they say: I don't think there's any way possible I'd feel like this if I didn't have all the success I had," said Pettitte, who will have made more than $75 million playing baseball by the end of the year. "I don't know that, but I wouldn't think I'd feel this way. I've been to seven World Series now. I definitely think that contributes. I had an opportunity to play a lot, every year in the postseason. I don't know if that has something to do with it, the wear and tear. I guess I just look at it different from a lot of other guys.

"I signed a three-year deal. I wanted to play three years. I didn't want to play longer than that when I signed."

All those playoff innings may have contributed to the injury he suffered early in 2004, a torn flexor tendon that ultimately halted his season in August and had to be repaired surgically. Pettitte, 34, came back last year to team with Roger Clemens and Roy Oswalt in a devastating rotation that carried Houston to its first postseason series victory and first World Series. He was - as he always was in pinstripes - the unsung hero. He was 17-9 with a 2.39 ERA that was the best of his career.

"When I left New York my whole goal in life was to try to help the Houston Astros first win a playoff series and then second, win a World Series or at least get to one," said Pettitte, who is 8-10 with a 5.08 ERA this season. "We were able to do that last year. I wish we were able to win it. So now my goal is to try to help this team win a World Series. That's what's keeping me going."

JunkyardDwg
07-23-2006, 02:19 AM
With the year he's had this year, in addition to his first year with the team being injury filled, I could see him hanging it up...him and Roger together.

Clutch
07-23-2006, 02:58 AM
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07-23-2006, 03:23 AM
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07-23-2006, 03:25 AM
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07-23-2006, 04:43 AM
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DaDakota
07-23-2006, 07:41 AM
I would like to see Hirsch get some PT....and maybe Sampson....

The best thing Pettite has done was get Roger to play here.

DD

The Real Shady
07-23-2006, 09:31 AM
I would like to see Hirsch get some PT....and maybe Sampson....

The best thing Pettite has done was get Roger to play here.

DD

He had one amazing year here also, but definately not worth the money. The Astros need to cut ties with Andy next season.

leroy420
07-23-2006, 10:07 AM
This isn't the first time that Andy has said this. He said it in spring training. He is a family first guy. That is the largest reason he came home to play. No one would or should begrudge the guy if he decides to hang it up. He's had a storybook career. I wonder if he even knows that the best time to play golf in Texas is in October.

He might not have completely lived up to his contract with his play (other than his fantastic 2005 season), but I'd be willing to bet that the guys in the clubhouse think that he is worth more.

Gene the PIG
07-23-2006, 10:50 AM
I really like Andy, & I really like Roger, BUT ... if these guys try handcuffing us in the offseason until Christmas or January again, I say eff them. Adios.

Use the salary space to buy dudes that want to play.

I don't know abouts yoos, but I'm sick of being handcuffed every winter, ala Beltran, Clemens, & maybe now Pettitte.


Yes, this is frustration talking.

Jugdish
07-23-2006, 11:49 AM
Pettitte, 34, came back last year to team with Roger Clemens and Roy Oswalt in a devastating rotation that carried Houston to its first postseason series victory and first World Series.

:mad:

Hakeem's Dream
07-23-2006, 11:58 AM
What ever he thinks is best. I would love to see him stay around but I don't blame him if wants to leave. I think it's pretty certain Roger's done. No one is going to want to play if they are playing with us right now. Today we have to pull it out for Roy O. We can't afford to lose him.

sammy
07-23-2006, 02:18 PM
I would like the astros to resign Andy for the right price. It seems like he is retiring but players change their mind on this subject so quickly.

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07-23-2006, 02:21 PM
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pgabriel
07-23-2006, 02:44 PM
andy makes 13 mill and has an era over 5. why do you want to see him back?

trickywhiteguy
07-23-2006, 03:40 PM
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likeamockinird
07-23-2006, 07:14 PM
Unless Pettitte wants to sign for basically nothing, I wouldn't be upset if he left. With his injuy problems and struggles this year I don't think he's worth another big contract unless he proves that he can still be the pitcher he was last year. Plus we cannot let our top pitching prospects spend half their careers in the minors like we did with Jason Lane because they're too good to trade but there is no room for them on the team. We have to see if they can pitch in the bigs.

Aceshigh7
07-23-2006, 11:24 PM
I guess i'm in the minority. I think we need to re-sign Pettitte. He's more important than alot of us realize.

The Real Shady
07-23-2006, 11:32 PM
I guess i'm in the minority. I think we need to re-sign Pettitte. He's more important than alot of us realize.

Well, the Astros do have Wandy Rodriguez who has put up similar numbers to Pettite this year. He's a much cheaper alternative.

Aceshigh7
07-23-2006, 11:44 PM
Well, the Astros do have Wandy Rodriguez who has put up similar numbers to Pettite this year. He's a much cheaper alternative.

Do you really think Pettitte is going to pitch the rest of this year without improving on his current numbers? I think his end of season numbers will be respectable.

And in the playoffs, I have complete trust in Pettitte. Even if he's not 'on' he will give you a chance to win.

Experience does count for something.

Pettitte should have been an Astro from day one. Now that he's here, i'm happy to have him here as long as possible.

I say try to re-sign him to a contract heavy with incentives and bonuses. That way he gets paid well if he bounces back but if he doesn't perform well, it's not too much of a burden.

rrj_gamz
07-24-2006, 08:59 AM
Andy was great last year, but this year and his first were mediocre at best...I suspect he will retire with Roger as he won't be able to command the salary Roger does...

Hakeem's Dream
07-24-2006, 09:47 AM
It seems like he's not into it anymore. I guess losing isn't very fun.

bobrek
07-24-2006, 09:58 AM
It seems like he's not into it anymore. I guess losing isn't very fun.'

His July ERA is 2.88. Seems like he's still into it to me.

Supermac34
07-24-2006, 11:24 AM
Andy had a bad first half, buy I expect him to be better the last part of the season and the playoffs (if they can make it).

He's a lefty, innings-eater, with good stuff. Despite the rough year, some team would pay him a bunch of money to pitch.

I have a pro athelete retirement theory. I think these guys get paid a ton of money over their career, but they also live the lifestyle that goes along with it. I think a lot of these guys spend a big percentage of their income supporting that lifestyle. So when it comes to a choice about retirement...I think they think "I've made a ton or money and still have a bunch of money, but one last payday would keep my family set forever."

I think that is why you see some guys end up in another city for one more year with a overpaid contract. Emmitt Smith, Hekeem, ect. That one last payday just to cover the money they've blown over the last 10 years.

Not to mention highly skilled, highly competitive people have a hard time hanging it up.

But a lot of times it comes down to: "I've made $25 million in my career. I have $15 million in the bank." This last $5 million paycheck will cover my past spending stupidity and I'll retire with around $20 million.

Hakeem's Dream
07-24-2006, 01:26 PM
He just doesn't seem happy to me.