View Full Version : Would you give up Burke (and prospects) for Alfonso Soriano
Brando2101
07-17-2006, 11:19 PM
Since Roger, Andy and Baggs are coming off the books next year Drayton is going to have a lot of extra money to throw around. Soriano pulls in around 10 million a year but I'm not exactly sure when he is a free agent. He would be more of a short term solution as opposed to Burke who you can keep at a modest rate for more than a few years.
Rox Addict
07-17-2006, 11:25 PM
SORIANO IS A STUD !!
Luckyazn
07-17-2006, 11:29 PM
SORIANO
for
BURKE/BACKE !!!!!!
rikesh316
07-17-2006, 11:40 PM
I would give anybody but Berkman and Oswalt for Soriano.
Brando2101
07-17-2006, 11:42 PM
I would give anybody but Berkman and Oswalt for Soriano.
and Clemens, Lidge, Pettitte and that Train that runs across the left field wall.
The Real Shady
07-17-2006, 11:51 PM
Soriano's a free agent at the end of the year and the only way I trade Burke for him is if he agrees to a contract with us beforehand.
Luckyazn
07-18-2006, 12:00 AM
Taveras
Soriano
Berkman
Huff
Wilson
Lamb
Everett
Asumus
Biggio/Ensberg
Jackfruit
07-18-2006, 12:14 AM
and Clemens, Lidge, Pettitte and that Train that runs across the left field wall.
I would add Biggio to that list as well.
I would add Biggio to that list as well.
and i would take lidge off of it. why on earth would we hold him back for soriano....
Little_Scott
07-18-2006, 01:31 AM
Soriano is most likely a certainty to leave via free agency after the season, IMO. Why would we want to give up Burke? Everyone on this board has been raving about the guy, begging for him to have a chance. Of course, if Soriano was the final piece to a title, it would be well worth it...
Mr. Mooch
07-18-2006, 01:46 AM
Soriano is most likely a certainty to leave via free agency after the season, IMO. Why would we want to give up Burke? Everyone on this board has been raving about the guy, begging for him to have a chance. Of course, if Soriano was the final piece to a title, it would be well worth it...
I was up in DC last week and was watching the local news when he was interviewed during the All-Star stuff. He expressed interest in signing a multi-year deal with the team, but it was probably just something (the "right" thing?) to say instead of saying no way.
However with the new ownership in DC (they're having a promotional "grand re-opening" for the team this weekend), who knows what could happen.
DFW_Rockets_Fan
07-18-2006, 07:51 AM
Soriano's a free agent at the end of the year and the only way I trade Burke for him is if he agrees to a contract with us beforehand.
I voted yes, but with this same exclusion.
Austin70
07-18-2006, 08:11 AM
I don't know if I could trade him, Ensberg yes. I see Burke as the next Craig Biggio, but it would be hard to pass up Soriano if we had him locked up on a long term deal.
DaDakota
07-18-2006, 08:59 AM
Only if he signed an extension before the deal.
DD
MadMax
07-18-2006, 09:01 AM
Soriano's a free agent at the end of the year and the only way I trade Burke for him is if he agrees to a contract with us beforehand.
exactly. no way, otherwise.
Buck Turgidson
07-18-2006, 09:04 AM
exactly. no way, otherwise.
And why would he take himself off the FA market?
MadMax
07-18-2006, 09:05 AM
And why would he take himself off the FA market?
he wouldn't. that would be monumentally stupid.
NJRocket
07-18-2006, 09:10 AM
If he was signed for the next 4 or 5 years....no question. Absolute no brainer.
edwardc
07-18-2006, 09:39 AM
Soriano's a free agent at the end of the year and the only way I trade Burke for him is if he agrees to a contract with us beforehand.
I agree with you on this one the stros have been burned to many time by adding a player whos about to become a free agent.
Hakeem's Dream
07-18-2006, 12:14 PM
Let me stress not just no but HELL NO!!!
Furious Jam
07-18-2006, 12:31 PM
Nah. He'd never re-sign with us because (A) he'll ask for waaay more than he's worth, a la Beltran, and (B) he wants to play 2nd base.
Sorry, but Burke looks like the second coming of Craig Biggio to me. If he only ends up being 3/4 as good as Biggio, I still don't want to trade a young talent like that for a rent-a-player.
wow... what a great question...
soriano for two months would be worth roughly 15 HRs and 35-40 RBIs (based on '06 pace) + playoffs (in theory). to get that, it'll cost you $5M plus top prospects. let's say two plus burke. and there's a 0% he'll resign....
and on top of all that, he guarantees you nothing.
i don't think i could do it, either. if they had taken 3 of 4 from StL like they should have, rather than waking the sleeping giant, and the division was still within striking distance, i'd say yes. but with the cards pulling away... giving up too much for soriano in a crapshoot of a plyoff push is too high a price, imo.
rikesh316
07-18-2006, 12:39 PM
If you don't sign Soriano, you gets two draft picks. The team he signs with first round pick and a sandwhich pick.
Hakeem's Dream
07-18-2006, 01:17 PM
1. Soriano does have impressive numbers that's for sure. I just don't want him if I have to give up Burke.
2. Burke plays his heart out with no fear and gives 110%. He is the heir to Biggio's throne. He would make the perfect career Astro. I know he's not a homer-guy like Soriano but his BA is just as impressive (although I think judging a player on BA is not a good idea)
Oh yeah, and looking at a fantasy comparison, Soriano is #1 on Burke's list.
bobrek
07-18-2006, 01:49 PM
If you don't sign Soriano, you gets two draft picks. The team he signs with first round pick and a sandwhich pick.
You don't necessarily get a first round pick. It depends on who signs him. For example, the Astros did not get a first round pick when Beltran signed with the Mets even though he was a Type A player. They received the 38th pick (compensatory) and the 89th pick (from the Mets).
A team in the bottom half of the league standings forfeits a 2nd round pick while a team in the top half forfeits a first round pick. There is even further confusion if a team signs two or more Type A players.
rikesh316
07-18-2006, 01:59 PM
You don't necessarily get a first round pick. It depends on who signs him. For example, the Astros did not get a first round pick when Beltran signed with the Mets even though he was a Type A player. They received the 38th pick (compensatory) and the 89th pick (from the Mets).
A team in the bottom half of the league standings forfeits a 2nd round pick while a team in the top half forfeits a first round pick. There is even further confusion if a team signs two or more Type A players.
True but Soraino will most likely sign with a team like the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Cardinals and there won't be any free agent rated higher than him.
bobrek
07-18-2006, 02:17 PM
True but Soraino will most likely sign with a team like the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Cardinals and there won't be any free agent rated higher than him.
Probably, but you can't discount those California teams that may end up in the bottom half of the league (or those free spending Brewers :) ).
DaDakota
07-18-2006, 02:55 PM
Can Soriano pitch out of the bullpen?
DD
Rule0001
07-18-2006, 03:02 PM
Would you guys trade soriano for everett straight up? No, that was a joke of course not...i forgot everett is the definiton of a hall of fame shortstop.
wrath_of_khan
07-18-2006, 03:23 PM
Can Soriano pitch out of the bullpen?
DD
Exactly.
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