Casserly to Resign as Texans GM

[moestavern19]

...But not until he gets a chance to screw up a draft one last time.


per kffl.com

Texans | Casserly reportedly to resign; NFL position not a lock
Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:13:35 -0700

According to FOXSports.com's John Czarnecki, Charley Casserly reportedly will resign as general manager of the Houston Texans, after the NFL Draft. However, an influential league source said Monday, April 24, there is no guarantee that Casserly will be offered the job as the NFL's director of football operations.

[SWTsig]

...But not until he gets a chance to screw up a draft one last time.


per kffl.com

Texans | Casserly reportedly to resign; NFL position not a lock
Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:13:35 -0700

According to FOXSports.com's John Czarnecki, Charley Casserly reportedly will resign as general manager of the Houston Texans, after the NFL Draft. However, an influential league source said Monday, April 24, there is no guarantee that Casserly will be offered the job as the NFL's director of football operations.

so close

[pgabriel]

why would they give him a chance to go out and make another buchanon deal. draft another ragone. drat another babin.

[rrj_gamz]

Interesting...He'll be apart of the draft, but not the negotiations of the contracts...Maybe we won't overpay at all...

Wish him the best...

[Jeff]

Interesting...He'll be apart of the draft, but not the negotiations of the contracts...Maybe we won't overpay at all...

Wish him the best...

He hasn't negotiated contracts now for the past two seasons. Their primary negotiator does that with he and McNair as the final sign-offs.

This brings up the question of who will take over for him.

[Castor27]

From what I have heard, Casserly isn't making many draft decisions anyway. McNair has pretty much sealed him out as a decision maker and Kubiak and his staff are doing most of the draft work.

[reggietodd]

why would they give him a chance to go out and make another buchanon deal. draft another ragone. drat another babin.

I think Kubiak & Mcnair are making the main decisions at this point. I thought Ragone got MVP in NFL europe last season. Is he really all that bad? I'm just asking because outside of college, I haven't seen much of him, Carr takes most all the snaps for us.

[xiki]

From what I have heard, Casserly isn't making many draft decisions anyway. McNair has pretty much sealed him out as a decision maker and Kubiak and his staff are doing most of the draft work.

Sounds a good decision to me.

BTW - no tears will be shed by me if CC gets neither the NFL job nor another top position with another FB team.

[leroy420]

Maybe he'll go work for the Colts...or the Titans...or the Jags...or (even better) THE COWBOYS

[The Real Shady]

I think Kubiak & Mcnair are making the main decisions at this point. I thought Ragone got MVP in NFL europe last season. Is he really all that bad? I'm just asking because outside of college, I haven't seen much of him, Carr takes most all the snaps for us.

That's what I'm thinking also. I think he is retiring because he has very little power left, and after he said he will retire after the draft he probably has even less influence on who will be drafted now.

[texanskan]

Yes CC has made his fair share of mistakes but lets give him credit where credit is do.

2002 Carr is better than Harrington
Pitts ends up being a very good value pick up!

2003 AJ at three was money ask Detroit if they would take AJ right about now. DD was the steal of the draft.

2004 Robinson was for the third year in a row a great first round pick and this time not in the top 3. For the third year in a row CC is money in the late rounds first picking up Earl second turning Henson (6th round) into a third round pick.

2005 The jury is still out on Trvis Johnson but he did trade down three spots and we still got our guy plus this years Saints third rounder.
Money again on the second day with All Pro Mathis and starter CC Brown.

Yes with Joppru being injured and others in the second or third round just not getting it done CC has and should be brought up but the famous Babin and P-Burnt trades were Capers, Fangio and the former staffs calls.

[Lil Francis]

Seems like Kubiak will be a Coach/GM. He's done a good job so far.

[swilkins]

Yes CC has made his fair share of mistakes but lets give him credit where credit is do.

2002 Carr is better than Harrington
Pitts ends up being a very good value pick up!

2003 AJ at three was money ask Detroit if they would take AJ right about now. DD was the steal of the draft.

2004 Robinson was for the third year in a row a great first round pick and this time not in the top 3. For the third year in a row CC is money in the late rounds first picking up Earl second turning Henson (6th round) into a third round pick.

2005 The jury is still out on Trvis Johnson but he did trade down three spots and we still got our guy plus this years Saints third rounder.
Money again on the second day with All Pro Mathis and starter CC Brown.

Yes with Joppru being injured and others in the second or third round just not getting it done CC has and should be brought up but the famous Babin and P-Burnt trades were Capers, Fangio and the former staffs calls.

I agree that Charlie was not the root of all evil. He had help.

Well said.

[ima_drummer2k]

This brings up the question of who will take over for him.
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[Jeff]

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He is no longer working for the team.

[Yao Wink]

What a difference a dash makes ... A topic of "Casserly to Re-sign as Texans GM" just didn't make sense to me until I read the thread.

[The Real Shady]

He is no longer working for the team.

McClain has said that Reeves will not become GM. Most likely it will be Ron HIll

[rhester]

Yes CC has made his fair share of mistakes but lets give him credit where credit is do.

2002 Carr is better than Harrington
Pitts ends up being a very good value pick up!

2003 AJ at three was money ask Detroit if they would take AJ right about now. DD was the steal of the draft.

2004 Robinson was for the third year in a row a great first round pick and this time not in the top 3. For the third year in a row CC is money in the late rounds first picking up Earl second turning Henson (6th round) into a third round pick.

2005 The jury is still out on Trvis Johnson but he did trade down three spots and we still got our guy plus this years Saints third rounder.
Money again on the second day with All Pro Mathis and starter CC Brown.

Yes with Joppru being injured and others in the second or third round just not getting it done CC has and should be brought up but the famous Babin and P-Burnt trades were Capers, Fangio and the former staffs calls.

1. You can't prove Carr is better than Harrington, but you can prove that Julius Peppers would have been the better pick. Casserly said all along they were hoping M Vick stayed another season and he would have been their 1st pick. Pitts is adequate for a 2nd rd. pick- no pro bowler.

2. AJ was a great pick. Better get the 3rd pick right. DD was a good guess, Casserly said in training camp that year that DD might have a chance and at the end of the season Casserly said they were surprised by his performance. So let's don't think he is a genius for good guessing. Lots of late rd. running backs surprise- (see Denver and KC)

3. D Robinson was a good pick. But you aren't looking at the body of work. Just cherry picking the only two good draft choices that CC has made- AJ and DRob. Glenn Earls is average, he isn't physical enough to be an impact strong safety and doesn't have the coverage skills to be an impact free safety. Do you realize how bad our defense is?

4. Travis Johnson was a joke since we passed Derrick Johnson. Why teams pass impact players to supposedly fill a need is baffling, but teams do it all the time. CC Brown again see Glenn Earls.

Do you realize that Mr. Casserly passed up drafting 11 players who started for the Pittsburg Steelers in the Super Bowl? That's right, we drafted before them 11 times and they out drafted us. Did you know that out of 35 draft picks in 4 drafts we have 2 impact players on the team- AJ and DRob.
Do you see that we have not signed one significant free agent play maker in 4 seasons of throwing money around.

Let me best illustrate it this way-
T. Hollings (lost pick)
S. Wand
P Buchanan (lost picks)
Babin (lost picks)
Gaffney
Weary
Hill
Joppru
Ragone
Morency
6 first day picks traded away

That means 16 out of the franchises 21 first day selections (rd.1-3) in its first 4 drafts have been wasted picks.

You compare that to the better teams and we have built ourselves a 2-14 roster in the short space of 4 seasons.

Yes, Fagio wanted Babin. We don't know for sure about Buchanon, but Casserly was on the radio praising the trade. Anyways, if the coaches were at fault for this disaster then Casserly shouldn't have been hired. We needed a general manager not a contract negotiator.

[Raven Lunatic]

3. D Robinson was a good pick. But you aren't looking at the body of work. Just cherry picking the only two good draft choices that CC has made- AJ and DRob.

Well, obviously. That's why he prefaced his post with "Yes CC has made his fair share of mistakes but lets give him credit where credit is do." Everyone recognizes that Casserly screwed up a lot, but he was just pointing out that he did make SOME good decisions.

[rhester]

Well, obviously. That's why he prefaced his post with "Yes CC has made his fair share of mistakes but lets give him credit where credit is do." Everyone recognizes that Casserly screwed up a lot, but he was just pointing out that he did make SOME good decisions.

I thought 'fair share' missed the marked. Give him credit implies he is due credit. Mel Kiper could have drafted better right off his board and I don't think much of Mel Kiper. I wouldn't classify SOME good decisions as justification for a horrible job. Ken Lay probably made some good decisions, even Isaiah Thomas might have made a couple of good decisions for the Knicks.

Objectively- the record speaks for itself.

[Raven Lunatic]

I thought 'fair share' missed the marked. Give him credit implies he is due credit. Mel Kiper could have drafted better right off his board and I don't think much of Mel Kiper. I wouldn't classify SOME good decisions as justification for a horrible job. Ken Lay probably made some good decisions, even Isaiah Thomas might have made a couple of good decisions for the Knicks.

Objectively- the record speaks for itself.

I'm not saying I disagree with you on the job Casserly has done, I just thought it was silly to tell the guy he was "cherry picking" when it was something he readily admitted to to begin his post.

[CriscoKidd]

Yes with Joppru being injured and others in the second or third round just not getting it done CC has and should be brought up but the famous Babin and P-Burnt trades were Capers, Fangio and the former staffs calls.


I don't have much of a problem with the stuff you mentioned in your post except for this. If he is a real gm then he finds a way to not let crap deals like those two happen.

Bottom line is that on his watch, through draft and free agency, CC brought in a pathetic amount talent to the team and that, along with the crappy coaching, shined through last year.

4 years and you only have one wr, a crappy OL, and pretty much no one that is noteworthy on d outside of Dunta.

[MadMax]

I don't have much of a problem with the stuff you mentioned in your post except for this. If he is a real gm then he finds a way to not let crap deals like those two happen.

Bottom line is that on his watch, through draft and free agency, CC brought in a pathetic amount talent to the team and that, along with the crappy coaching, shined through last year.

4 years and you only have one wr, a crappy OL, and pretty much no one that is noteworthy on d outside of Dunta.

i don't know how you can argue with this. there is no franchise that had a bigger chance to make a splash over the last 4 years in the draft than the expansion Houston Texans. they've absolutely bungled it.

[rrj_gamz]

And Bush isn't going to save the franchise...He'll be good, but you don't need a bigtime RB to win, at least not with this new scheme...

GM will be apart of this decision and he'll be the scapegoat or the hero...

[rhester]

I'm not saying I disagree with you on the job Casserly has done, I just thought it was silly to tell the guy he was "cherry picking" when it was something he readily admitted to to begin his post.

Understand, I find it hard to find any good out of the CC regime.

I let my emotions get the best of me, I haven't liked any of his drafts since the first one and just have a difference of philosophy on how to build a franchise.

[moestavern19]

Burnt Toast Buchanon for a 2nd round pick.

sigh.


I'll miss you charlie.

[Jeff]

I'm with most everyone on this one. It's amazing that we could shore up a huge number of our needs in one offseason with a new coaching staff in place and we couldn't do that in our first four years. In one offseason, it is likely that we'll have a more versatile defense, a much improved offense including a legit second receiver and tight end and depth on both lines.

If we land solid prospects at DL, OL and CB in the draft, we'll have addressed nearly every need in one offseason.

[Tb-Cain]

Yes CC has made his fair share of mistakes but lets give him credit where credit is do.
You don't deserve credit for not screwing up high 1st-round draft choices.

Are the GM's picking Bush, Young, Leinhart etc. going to deserve props for their genius?

[gucci888]

Bye Bye CC, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

It's amazing how a guy who had a decent (at best) stint with the Skins and who did a horrible job with the Texans could actually get promoted.

AJ, DD, Pitts, and Dante have been the only highlights in the draft w/ CC at the wheel. The verdict is still out on TJohnson, and on David Carr (for the most part), but it's clear to anyone that watches NFL football that Carr was not the best player in the draft.

Babin, Hollings, P-burnt, Joppru was just a waste of picks, high picks on top of that. Whether it was Capers or whoever making the call, CC is the one that makes the deals at the end of it all.

I'm glad we used 1st day picks on guys like Hollings and Ragone, 3rd string players, when we have had obvious holes in the OL from day 1.

[VesceySux]

i don't know how you can argue with this. there is no franchise that had a bigger chance to make a splash over the last 4 years in the draft than the expansion Houston Texans. they've absolutely bungled it.

Nail. Meet head.

EVERY team that has had the #1 pick since the late 1990s... EXCEPT FOR ONE... has made the playoffs within four years, including the expansion Cleveland Browns. Which lone team has bucked the trend? The answer is right under your nose.

Buh-bye, Chaz Casserole. I wish I could say "you suck utter and complete ass," but that statement would be sugarcoating it.

[bigben998]

From what I have heard, Casserly isn't making many draft decisions anyway. McNair has pretty much sealed him out as a decision maker and Kubiak and his staff are doing most of the draft work.

Thats completely NOT what i heard, Granted i dont have any sources for this(i will research), but i heard casserly is holding the reins for this draft, i was about to start a thread about this, saw this one just in time. I heard he is holding a good deal of influence in the war room. I'm sure kubiack has a lot more say, but just the fact that he has an opinion in the war room is killing me right now. I HATE THIS MAN!!!! I cannot believe he has been here as long as he has, name one good thing this guy has done for the organization, besides andre johnson, that pick is a no brainer.

[BSW]

:) He is no longer working for the team.

As of right now he is not working for the team. Nothing stating that he won't be in the future.