Chron: With Broncos' loss, Texans set to hire Kubiak

[nWo34Life]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3604394.html

By JOHN MCCLAIN
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

DENVER – Denver’s loss Sunday was Houston’s gain. The Broncos’ 34-17 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC Championship Game means the Texans finally can hire offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak to replace Dom Capers.

Although the Texans insist they haven’t agreed on anything officially with Kubiak, his hiring is one of the worst-kept secrets in sports. He’ll be hired this week.

If the Broncos had defeated the Steelers, the Texans would have been forced to wait until after Super Bowl XL in Detroit to hire Kubiak.

Under NFL rules, teams can’t hire coaches until their season ends. The only way coaches in the playoffs can be interviewed is if their team earns a bye week and the interview takes place in the coach’s city during the bye week.

The Texans interviewed Kubiak during the bye week in a Denver suburb near the team’s practice facility. From that point on, Kubiak as been the Texans’ choice, and several persons close to Texans owner Bob McNair and Kubiak confirmed that he would be hired after the Broncos’ season ended.

Besides Kubiak, the Texans also interviewed Miami offensive coordinator Scott Linehan, Texans receivers coach Kippy Brown, Kansas City offensive coordinator Al Saunders, Buffalo defensive coordinator Jerry Gray, San Diego offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and Fresno State coach Pat Hill.

The Texans wanted to interview Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, who was interested initially but would never agree to an interview.

[Zacatecas]

I was pulling for Denver. But, I'm glad that the texans can get their off season with all of their personel on board.

[DaDakota]

See a QB like Jake Plummer (or David Carr) is not good enough to win the big ones...got to have that stud QB....it starts there.

Bring on Vince baby !

DD

[Joshfast]

See a QB like Jake Plummer (or David Carr) is not good enough to win the big ones...got to have that stud QB....it starts there.

Bring on Vince baby !

DD

Good lord. Just ask him to marry you.

:p

[Uprising]

Oh man, I was hoping we could go more posts in this thread with out the mention of that kids name.

[JunkyardDwg]

See a QB like Jake Plummer (or David Carr) is not good enough to win the big ones...got to have that stud QB....it starts there.

Bring on Vince baby !

DD

That's some serious man-crush you got, seesh :p


Oh and a qb like Plummer or Carr isn't good enough to win the big games but a Mr. Peyton Manning is? If the Texans stay with Carr I'll trust Kubiak to mold him into something productive. It's amazing what a new coach and new line will do for him. It'll be nice to finally get the ball rolling on this offseason.

[The Cat]

See a QB like Jake Plummer (or David Carr) is not good enough to win the big ones...got to have that stud QB....it starts there.

Bring on Vince baby !

DD

Exactly! You have to have a stud quarterback to win the big one - awesome point!

Signed,
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson

[kaleidosky]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2302213

HOUSTON -- Denver offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak will be hired by the Texans to take over the worst team in the league and help decide what Houston should do with the first pick in the draft.

Texans owner Bob McNair said during a Sunday news conference that the hiring won't be completed until later in the week because the Texans could not negotiate a contract with Kubiak until the Broncos were eliminated from the playoffs.

McNair's announcement came about an hour after Denver lost to Pittsburgh in the AFC championship game.

"Hopefully we'll have him down here by the middle of the week and he will then be assembling a staff," McNair said.

McNair said he planned to speak with Kubiak later Sunday.

There's been speculation for weeks that Kubiak would become the Texans' second coach, replacing Dom Capers.

Capers was fired a day after Houston finished its season 2-14. He had led the team since its inception four seasons ago.

Houston won four games in its first season, five in 2003 and seven last season before its 2005 meltdown.

Kubiak has been a highly regarded coaching prospects for several years, but this will be his first head coaching job at any level. He spent the last 11 years with Mike Shanahan in Denver, helping the team to back-to-back Super Bowl wins in 1998 and 1999.

The Texans formally interviewed four offensive coordinators and six total candidates, but Kubiak was the front-runner from the beginning. It certainly didn't hurt that he played in Denver for Dan Reeves, who is working for Houston as a consultant to McNair.

Kubiak will have to immediately get to work on helping the team decide what to do with its No. 1 pick in April's draft.

A Broncos source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen last week that the Texans told USC that Reggie Bush would be selected with the No. 1 pick, despite a rise in public sentiment after the Rose Bowl that Houston select Texas quarterback Vince Young.

That assurance was given because it was in line with Kubiak's philosophy.

A Broncos source told Mortensen that Kubiak believes current Houston quarterback David Carr can flourish with a new offense headlined by Bush and wide receiver Andre Johnson.

Kubiak, a Houston native and former Texas A&M quarterback, played for Reeves and backed up John Elway from 1983-91. His NFL playing career was mostly forgettable, although he played in 11 postseason games and had a 4-1 record as a starter.

He returned briefly to coach at his alma mater -- in College Station, about 90 miles from Houston -- then joined Shanahan on George Seifert's staff in San Francisco in 1994. With Shanahan as the offensive coordinator and Kubiak as the quarterbacks coach, the 49ers won the Super Bowl and Steve Young was named the MVP.

Shanahan became the Broncos' coach the following season and took Kubiak with him. Since then, the Broncos have had one of the league's top 10 offenses in 10 of 11 seasons. The Broncos ranked fifth in total offense in 2005.

Kubiak was a candidate for the job the first time around and was interviewed in 2001 before the Texans picked Capers.

[Uprising]

That was a good read, thanks for posting.

Bring our AGGIE back to Texas! Welcome home Kubiak!

[gunn]

A Broncos source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen last week that the Texans told USC that Reggie Bush would be selected with the No. 1 pick, despite a rise in public sentiment after the Rose Bowl that Houston select Texas quarterback Vince Young.

I love how "a Broncos source" told Mortensen about what the Texans and owner Bob McNair are going to do. Mort is regularly used and abused by NFL types looking to spill false info into the media every year during draft time.

[The Real Shady]

See a QB like Jake Plummer (or David Carr) is not good enough to win the big ones...got to have that stud QB....it starts there.

Bring on Vince baby !

DD

Jake Delhomme
Trent Dilfer
Chris Chandler
Neil O'Donnell
Jay Humpries
Mark Rypien

All made it to or won a Super Bowl. I would say Carr is equal or better then all of them.

I still want the Texans to draft Vince, but a stud QB is not needed to win the big one.

[DaDakota]

Jake Delhomme
Trent Dilfer
Chris Chandler
Neil O'Donnell
Jay Humpries
Mark Rypien

All made it to or won a Super Bowl. I would say Carr is equal or better then all of them.

I still want the Texans to draft Vince, but a stud QB is not needed to win the big one.

Didn't all of those guys LOSE the superbowl?

[The Real Shady]

Didn't all of those guys LOSE the superbowl?

Dilfer and Rypien won.

[gunn]

Neil O'Donnell


What team was this for?

[v3.0]

Neil O'donell made it to the SB as a Steeler.

[today]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2302213

He returned briefly to coach at his alma mater -- in College Station, about 90 miles from Houston --

The CS crew loves this mention! He lived across the street from my best friend growing up.

CS 4 life yo ;)

[Mack]

Jake Delhomme
Trent Dilfer
Chris Chandler
Neil O'Donnell
Jay Humpries
Mark Rypien

All made it to or won a Super Bowl. I would say Carr is equal or better then all of them.

I still want the Texans to draft Vince, but a stud QB is not needed to win the big one.

Jay Humphries? You mean Jay Schroeder? or Stan Humphries?

Add to list: Doug Williams, Jim McMahon, both won in blowouts.

[Uprising]

A little bit more was added to that ESPN article:

McNair said Kubiak was much more prepared for the interview this time and that he was "very impressive." He said he told Kubiak after the 2001 interview that he thought he needed "a little more experience" before he became a head coach.

McNair said Kubiak recently told him: "'You were right back then, but I can just tell you I'm ready now.'"

"And I thought he was," McNair said.


WELCOME HOME AGGIE!

[Rocket River]

I was pulling for Denver. But, I'm glad that the texans can get their off season with all of their personel on board.

I understand but d*mn . . TIMING PEOPLE
Was McNair on the sideline holding the contract during the game.
I mean less than 2 hours after the game. . . .

:D

Rocket River

[Blatz]

See a QB like Jake Plummer (or David Carr) is not good enough to win the big ones...got to have that stud QB....it starts there.

Bring on Vince baby !

DD

No kidding and we are about to bring in someone whose offence couldn't win the big game today......say no to Kubiak......

bring in someone else baby !



:rolleyes:

[mogrod]

Jake Delhomme - Stephen Davis
Trent Dilfer - Jamal Lewis
Chris Chandler - Jamal Anderson
Neil O'Donnell - Erric Pegraim/Bam Morris
Mark Rypien - Earnest Byner
Doug Williams - George Rogers
Jim McMahon - Walter Payton
Troy Aikman - Emmitt Smith
John Elway - Terrell Davis
Jim Kelly - Thurman Thomas
Kurt Warner - Marshall Faulk
Ben Roethlisberger - Eric Parker/Jerome Bettis
Matt Hassleback - Shaun Alexander
Terry Bradshaw - Franco Harris

Championship QBs are not about stuning running plays and extreme athletic ability. They are about managing a game, not making mistakes and making the throws when they need to be made. The great known QBs do those things far superior than the rest. Montana didn't have great speed nor was a gifted athlete (same can be said about Tom Brady), but he made all the right decisions ESPECIALLY in the clutch. All those QB's above also had great running games. Whether it be because of a great back and/or a great o-line, their teams ate up yards on the ground.

Now the question is, if you put a great o-line/running game around Carr, is he the guy that can make those decisions for you and/or not make mistakes?

I think he is. He has proven to be a good decision maker in his brief career and he can make all the throws.

Young has obviously proven he can be that player as well. The only question is if he can make those throws at the next level.

[meh]

Now that the head coach question has been resolved, the big question is the D-Coordinator position. I have great confidence Kubiak can turn around this offense, especially with our #1 pick almost certainly an offensive player. But our defense still sucks. And I really wish we have a good teacher for our young defensive players.

[gucci888]

Now that the head coach question has been resolved, the big question is the D-Coordinator position. I have great confidence Kubiak can turn around this offense, especially with our #1 pick almost certainly an offensive player. But our defense still sucks. And I really wish we have a good teacher for our young defensive players.

Agreed. I think that is something that has been overlooked quite a bit so far. The Texan's defense was just as big as problem as the offense in my opinion.

[rocketlaunch]

on Houston Local Tv tonite they said two people who will stay on his staff with be coach marciano (sp) and Hoke

I like both of these guys so I am glad they are staying. Also They said Gary has been working on a staff for a couple weeks now

[SamFisher]

I think he is. He has proven to be a good decision maker in his brief career and he can make all the throws.
l.

His decisionmaking IIRC was kind of straight ass throughout most of the year, though having to run for your life probably didn't help much.

[nWo34Life]

Damn, Kubiak is already thinking of his staff - looks Denver Bronco orientated. Doesn't matter, as long as he can help this team win. Looks like a great addition to the Texans!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3604912.html

Hiring a staff tops Kubiak's to-do list
New coach has eye on Dennison, Bates for key jobs

By JOHN MCCLAIN
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

DENVER - Even though Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak will not be introduced as the Texans' new head coach until midweek, it won't stop him from hiring a staff.

"Those decisions are going to be Gary's," Texans owner Bob McNair said after Denver lost to Pittsburgh 34-17 in the AFC Championship Game on Sunday. "He's going to be able to select his staff, and we stand ready to help him in any way."

Expected to be among Kubiak's hires are Todd Calhoun, the Broncos' assistant to the head coach, as quarterbacks coach; Kyle Shanahan, the Buccaneers' offensive quality control coach, as receivers coach or assistant receivers coach; and David Diaz-Infante, a former Broncos offensive lineman and a member of the team's broadcast crew, as an assistant offensive line coach.

Kubiak's most important hires will be offensive and defensive coordinators.

His first choice for offensive coordinator and offensive line coach is Denver line coach Rick Dennison, who is under contract to the Broncos. Kubiak and Dennison are close friends, but coach Mike Shanahan does not have to let Dennison leave. If he is hired, Dennison would have the title of offensive coordinator and would coach the line with Diaz-Infante.

If Dennison can't get out of his contract, a Broncos official said not to rule out former Denver offensive line coach Alex Gibbs, who works as a consultant with Atlanta.

Gibbs, who is regarded as one of the best line coaches in NFL history, could groom Diaz-Infante, but he would have to be released by the Falcons.

Because Rod Marinelli was hired as Detroit's head coach, the first choice for defensive coordinator is Jim Bates, who spent last season at Green Bay. St. Louis and Buffalo also are in pursuit of Bates, who is regarded as one of the NFL's best coordinators.

"Gary's a great offensive mind, so I think he really wants to get a strong defensive coordinator," McNair said. "He feels there are number of them available, and, hopefully, we'll be able to secure the one that he wants."

Because Kubiak played quarterback and coached quarterbacks, he will coach the quarterbacks with the Texans, but he will have help from one of his assistants, perhaps Calhoun. Kubiak called plays for the Broncos for the last six years.

"I think the biggest challenge we have is putting together an effective offense," McNair said. "We've had difficulty with that process in the past. Gary's worked with young quarterbacks and has been very successful. I think that'll fit in quite well with our team and allow us to make the most progress.

"But assembling his staff will be the first order of business. After that, his staff — along with help from our scouts — will start evaluating our personnel. We've got almost three months for the whole process to take place."

While Kubiak is evaluating the Texans' roster, he also will be scouting college players. The Texans have the first pick in the draft.

Vince Young or Reggie Bush?

It'll be Kubiak's call.

[Rocket River]

Damn, Kubiak is already thinking of his staff - looks Denver Bronco orientated. Doesn't matter, as long as he can help this team win. Looks like a great addition to the Texans!




If I were a Broncos fan
this would kind of annoy me

WE IN THE PLAYOFFS . . TRYING TO GET TO THE SUPERBOWL
and Gary is already thinking about Texas :mad:

I'm sure more than a few maybe thinking the Steelers caught Gary looking ahead

Rocket River

[justtxyank]

How sweet would it be to get Gibbs away from ATL and sign Bates as a defensive coordinator? :eek:

[stevel]

Jake Delhomme - Stephen Davis
Trent Dilfer - Jamal Lewis
Chris Chandler - Jamal Anderson
Neil O'Donnell - Erric Pegraim/Bam Morris
Mark Rypien - Earnest Byner
Doug Williams - George Rogers
Jim McMahon - Walter Payton
Troy Aikman - Emmitt Smith
John Elway - Terrell Davis
Jim Kelly - Thurman Thomas
Kurt Warner - Marshall Faulk
Ben Roethlisberger - Eric Parker/Jerome Bettis
Matt Hassleback - Shaun Alexander
Terry Bradshaw - Franco Harris

Championship QBs are not about stuning running plays and extreme athletic ability. They are about managing a game, not making mistakes and making the throws when they need to be made. The great known QBs do those things far superior than the rest. Montana didn't have great speed nor was a gifted athlete (same can be said about Tom Brady), but he made all the right decisions ESPECIALLY in the clutch. All those QB's above also had great running games. Whether it be because of a great back and/or a great o-line, their teams ate up yards on the ground.

Now the question is, if you put a great o-line/running game around Carr, is he the guy that can make those decisions for you and/or not make mistakes?

I think he is. He has proven to be a good decision maker in his brief career and he can make all the throws.

Young has obviously proven he can be that player as well. The only question is if he can make those throws at the next level.

Great post. Great running teams make the QBs job much easier. It is much easier to throw against a team stacking 8 in the box to stop the run. Ask Big Ben.

[studogg]

If I were a Broncos fan
this would kind of annoy me

WE IN THE PLAYOFFS . . TRYING TO GET TO THE SUPERBOWL
and Gary is already thinking about Texas :mad:

I'm sure more than a few maybe thinking the Steelers caught Gary looking ahead

Rocket River

I'm thinking your going a bit far with this one buddy. The world doesn't stop for Kubiak to determine his choices and given his frequency of interviewing he probably already had most of them picked.

[Dubious]

Now the question is, if you put a great o-line/running game around Carr, is he the guy that can make those decisions for you and/or not make mistakes? I think he is. He has proven to be a good decision maker in his brief career and he can make all the throws.

No, No, Hell no.
If you go to Reliant Stadium and watch the games so you can see the entire field, you will see that Carr consistantly makes the wrong decisions. And not just the wrong ones, the boneheadedly stupid ones. He can't ever find an open receiver, he never looks off a defensive back, he inevitaibly turns into the oncoming rusher when the pocket is breaking down, he never gets the first down when he has to scramble...I mean I have seen him just pussy out one yard short. Heck, my wife thinks he's a terrible quarterback.

Now I will grant you, if you put him behind an all pro line he will have some success but who wouldn't? And how many NFL teams can assemble all pro lines? Out of 32 teams, maybe 6 or 7.

Think about this...have you ever seen a Texans offensive lineman get in a fight during the game with a man getting to David Carr. No? That's because they don't buy into him as their leader. He's just a California pretty boy that hasn't done anything spectacular to lead them.

Football is a game of passion. In the NFL every team has big strong players, it is the emotional investment in the team that makes the difference. Men want to give their all for heros. Carr has no hero in him, Vince is all hero.

And yes, I would marry him if he would have me.

[stevel]

In order to scan the field, look off DBs, and throw anything deep, any QB needs some time. That is a fact. Some need less than others, but all pro QBs need at least 2-3 secs to be able to scan the field at all. Carr doesn't have this luxury. Besides, if I were him I would lock onto AJ too. He is the only guy we have that can catch the freakin ball consistently.

[leroy420]

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060123/i/r4105499931.jpg

I'm not too crazy about his throwing mechanics. Let's stick with Capers and bring in a new o.c. instead.

[Desert Scar]

Jake Delhomme
Trent Dilfer
Chris Chandler
Neil O'Donnell
Jay Humpries
Mark Rypien

All made it to or won a Super Bowl. I would say Carr is equal or better then all of them.

I still want the Texans to draft Vince, but a stud QB is not needed to win the big one.

With a decent QB or even a journeyman you can make it, maybe even win it if everything else is in place: e.g., great defense and great Oline with some superior skill players. The fact few of these guys return suggest it is hard for this to fall into place however.

But now look at:
-Staubach
-Bradshaw
-Montana
-Aikman
-Elway
-Brady

Great QBs who combine skills and leadership can get you to the Superbowl multiple years even when some other aspects of those teams fall short of outstanding. Montana and Elway did it some years with some less than exceptional defenses, Brady and Montana also did it with some years with less than exceptional skill players (pre-Craig, pre-Rice, pre-Dillon). Franchise QBs will give you lot of oppertunnities you can't get anywhere else in a single player and can make up for having far less than a perfect team elsewhere.

[DrLudicrous]

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060123/i/r4105499931.jpg

I'm not too crazy about his throwing mechanics. Let's stick with Capers and bring in a new o.c. instead.

I've seen that guy before.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/drludicrous/Al20Bundy.jpg

[swilkins]

I've seen that guy before.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/drludicrous/Al20Bundy.jpg

That's great.

That means we'll have Van Gundy and Van Bundy. :D

[HillBoy]

See a QB like Jake Plummer (or David Carr) is not good enough to win the big ones...got to have that stud QB....it starts there.

Bring on Vince baby !

DD
You keep this up and I'll have to start wondering whether or not you watched the Rose Bowl in the nude. ;)

Talk about waving those burnt orange pom-poms!

[HillBoy]

No, No, Hell no.
...And yes, I would marry him if he would have me.
Sigh! First we get Brokeback Mountain and now this...

[mogrod]

No, No, Hell no.

Well, I could counter that by asking you how is he supposed to check off defenders and/or go through his progressions when is he has all of 2 seconds to do something before he is up-ended by a defensive end?

I'm not saying Carr is a great QB, but (when given some time to read the defense) he has typically made good decisions.

Dang, I wish I could remember the guy or the rating system used, but there was a guy who rates and ranks the NFL QB's decision-making abiity. Carr has ranked in the upper-third (if I remember correctly) in the league. He has had more TD's to INT's the last 2 seasons. He has all the ability.

If the o-lineman don't respect Carr, that's on them and not Carr, IMO. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but the fact he keeps getting up play to do his job play after play, game after game after the o-line continues to fail to stop getting him crushed, they SHOULD respect the hell out of him.

[Dubious]

God, I wish I knew how to quit you Vince!
:D

The way you get respect is to earn it.

But I'm telling you, at the game where you can see the whole field, you can see Carr makes bad decisions, even if he has time.

[jopatmc]

With a decent QB or even a journeyman you can make it, maybe even win it if everything else is in place: e.g., great defense and great Oline with some superior skill players. The fact few of these guys return suggest it is hard for this to fall into place however.

But now look at:
-Staubach
-Bradshaw
-Montana
-Aikman
-Elway
-Brady

Great QBs who combine skills and leadership can get you to the Superbowl multiple years even when some other aspects of those teams fall short of outstanding. Montana and Elway did it some years with some less than exceptional defenses, Brady and Montana also did it with some years with less than exceptional skill players (pre-Craig, pre-Rice, pre-Dillon). Franchise QBs will give you lot of oppertunnities you can't get anywhere else in a single player and can make up for having far less than a perfect team elsewhere.


That's the difference, right there. A decent QB, with the right system, and the right coach, and the right players surrounding him, and the right weather, and the right schedule, and the right absence of injuries to key players on the team, can get to the Super Bowl and win it.....................once.

But the great QBs are the QBs that are leaders and can improvise in crunch time and make something out of nothing. Those are the dudes that go to and win multiple Super Bowls.

The best chance to get to Super Bowls and win Super Bowls is with a superior leader at QB, who has escapability and a high degree of intelligence.

[LongTimeFan]

If the o-lineman don't respect Carr, that's on them and not Carr, IMO. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but the fact he keeps getting up play to do his job play after play, game after game after the o-line continues to fail to stop getting him crushed, they SHOULD respect the hell out of him.

I disagree. I think the Carr/O-line relationship took a big hit this year, with each side blaming the other. IMO, Carr lost the respect and leadership a QB needs if he's going to run a successful NFL team. I just can't help but think back to that interview when someone said Mckinney was the leader of the offense, not Carr. Not going to win too many games when your C has to lead you.

[The Cat]

God, I wish I knew how to quit you Vince!
:D

The way you get respect is to earn it.

But I'm telling you, at the game where you can see the whole field, you can see Carr makes bad decisions, even if he has time.

I'm a season ticket holder with a great vantage point for seeing plays develop, and I think the opposite. Usually, there's simply no one open downfield. Our secondary receivers are terrible at creating any separation.

Also, it's not as simple as saying "even when he has time, he still makes bad decisions" and thus determining his capability if he had time on a regular basis. The rush still has an effect on Carr even when he has 5-6 seconds to throw. He's hurrying through his progressions and trying to fit it into the first somewhat open space he finds because he's terrified the pocket will collapse at any second. You need a somewhat legitimate offensive line so that Carr's mindset isn't running scared before you can accurately make much of a judgment.

[Dubious]

Carr may well develop into a top NFL QB, I really think he could be as good as Trent Green... someday. But he will never do it in Houston with 65,000 people booing his every mistake. He's lost the fans, he's lost the team and with the spectre of Vince out there he will never get them back. Even moreso if Vince goes to the hated Titans.

It may be wrong, the fans may be stupid but it is 100% the way it is.

I was in North EastTexas during the Craig Morton/Roger Staubach years. A mere mortal can never measure up to a hero.

[swilkins]

Carr may well develop into a top NFL QB, I really think he could be as good as Trent Green... someday. But he will never do it in Houston with 65,000 people booing his every mistake. He's lost the fans, he's lost the team and with the spectre of Vince out there he will never get them back. Even moreso if Vince goes to the hated Titans.

It may be wrong, the fans may be stupid but it is 100% the way it is.

I was in North EastTexas during the Craig Morton/Roger Staubach years. A mere mortal can never measure up to a hero.

The fans weren't just booing Carr.

[The Cat]

Carr may well develop into a top NFL QB, I really think he could be as good as Trent Green... someday. But he will never do it in Houston with 65,000 people booing his every mistake. He's lost the fans, he's lost the team and with the spectre of Vince out there he will never get them back. Even moreso if Vince goes to the hated Titans.

It may be wrong, the fans may be stupid but it is 100% the way it is.

I was in North EastTexas during the Craig Morton/Roger Staubach years. A mere mortal can never measure up to a hero.

Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger would lose their fans if they went 2-14. And if they go 14-2, they'll all come back.

Same here. People boo, more than anything, because the team sucks and is losing football games. If/when the Texans put together a winning season, Carr jerseys will fly off the shelves and he'll be a hero. If the Texans win games, the fans will come roaring back... like they always have and always do.

[The Real Shady]

Same here. People boo, more than anything, because the team sucks and is losing football games. If/when the Texans put together a winning season, Carr jerseys will fly off the shelves and he'll be a hero. If the Texans win games, the fans will come roaring back... like they always have and always do.

Depends. Denver Bronco fans are not to happy with Plummer right now, but Denver just had a great year.

[The Cat]

Depends. Denver Bronco fans are not to happy with Plummer right now, but Denver just had a great year.

Obviously there are extinuating circumstances, such as having four turnovers in a playoff game. There's also a heat of the moment reaction (or overreaction) in most cases. But for the most part, fans will support you if the team wins games. I guarantee you Plummer will be the starting quarterback on opening day in September and he'll be greeted with nothing but cheers from a sold out crowd.

[Major]

Out of curiousity (and back on topic!), what do we know about Kubiak? He's OC for Denver, but Shanahan is considered an offensive genius, so how much say does Kubiak really have? Does he even call the plays and such? Or does Shanahan do that?

[swilkins]

Out of curiousity (and back on topic!), what do we know about Kubiak? He's OC for Denver, but Shanahan is considered an offensive genius, so how much say does Kubiak really have? Does he even call the plays and such? Or does Shanahan do that?

Kubiak calls the plays. It's his offense.

[rrj_gamz]

I'm so glad Gary is here...Nothing like fresh blood to breathe life into this organization...I saw that the KC OC went to Washington...It will be interesting to see how his staff shapes up...I'd imagine he'll bring someone from Denver on offense, but Defense, no thank you...

In many ways, I see a little bit of Jake in Carr...Trade the pick and get an OL and pass rusher...We should be able to pick up a receiver in free agency...

Btw, I wish I knew the answer to Major's question...

[stevel]

How sweet would it be to get Gibbs away from ATL and sign Bates as a defensive coordinator? :eek:

This is what I am hoping for as well. If not Bates, then I would like to give Jerry Gray a call.

[Summer Song Giver]

I think it's a stretch to talk about winning Super Bowls with either a decent QB or a world beater at this point considering we haven't had a .500 season yet but then again, it sure is fun, yeehaw, bring on the multiple Super Bowl guy, door number two, yeehaw, dynasty baby, yeehaw......

[Lance Berkman]

on Houston Local Tv tonite they said two people who will stay on his staff with be coach marciano (sp) and Hoke

I like both of these guys so I am glad they are staying. Also They said Gary has been working on a staff for a couple weeks now

Hoke is interviewing for the DC job in Tampa-Bay.

Insider info :cool:

[JayZ750]

Hoke is interviewing for the DC job in Tampa-Bay.

Insider info :cool:

How are Houston coaches interviewing, much less getting, jobs. It's a well known fact that the Texans had some of the worst coaching in the history of mankind.

[nWo34Life]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3607562.html

Kubiak already at work
Incoming coach to keep 2 members from Capers' staff

By JOHN MCCLAIN
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

DENVER - For someone who still has not been officially hired as the new coach of the Texans, Gary Kubiak spent a lot of time Monday trying to assemble a staff of assistant coaches.

Kubiak, who will be introduced at a news conference on Thursday in Houston, spent Monday morning saying goodbye to his players the day after Denver's 34-17 loss to Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship Game.

"It's been an emotional roller coaster," Kubiak said. "I've been through some wars with a lot of great guys, and it was tough saying goodbye, but I'm excited about coming to Houston. I'm ready to move forward, and I'm really fired up about the challenge."

Topping his list is hiring a staff. Kubiak will keep two members of Dom Capers' team: Jon Hoke (the defensive backs coach) and Joe Marciano (special teams).

Jim Bates will not be the defensive coordinator, and odds are against Kubiak succeeding in his plan to get Broncos offensive line coach Rick Dennison out of his contract. Kubiak and Dennison are close friends, but coach Mike Shanahan won't allow Dennison to leave.

The consolation may be that the Texans get Alex Gibbs, one of the greatest offensive line coaches in NFL history.

Landing Gibbs, who spent 13 years in two separate stints coaching the offensive line at Denver under Dan Reeves and Shanahan, is not a done deal. He retired from the Broncos after the 2003 season and was replaced by Dennison.

Atlanta convinced Gibbs to come out of retirement for two seasons. He was a consultant in 2005 after a year as line coach and assistant head coach.

Hiring Gibbs would allow Kubiak to develop David Diaz-Infante, a former Broncos offensive lineman who is a member of Denver's radio broadcast crew. Diaz-Infante has agreed to be part of Kubiak's staff.

Kubiak will bring Troy Calhoun, Denver's assistant to the head coach, to coach quarterbacks and possibly be the offensive coordinator. Brian Pariani, the offensive coordinator at Syracuse, will coach tight ends. He spent 10 years as a Denver assistant, including coaching the tight ends, before he left last year for Syracuse.

Kyle Shanahan, whose father is Mike Shanahan, will coach the receivers. A University of Texas graduate, Shanahan has been the offensive quality control coach at Tampa Bay for the last two years.

Another candidate is Frank Bush, the highly regarded linebackers coach at Arizona. Bush, who played linebacker for the Oilers before a congenital spine defect forced him to retire, was an assistant coach at Denver before moving to the Cardinals.

"I'm working to get the best staff I can get," Kubiak said. "Even though I was hoping to get another (Super Bowl) ring, and I'm still disappointed in the loss (to the Steelers), I'm ready to get started in Houston."