Hillary Has a Howard Dean Moment -- Drops Racial Bomb

[Trader_Jorge]

Well, we all knew the Hildebeast was a bitter woman, eager to promote herself and grab power, but what we didn't know was the lengths to which she would stoop to express her deep anger. She has now compared the Bush Administration to slave owners. This woman is certifiably mad. She will be quite easy to Swift Boat should she make it out of the primaries. Above all, she is an angry witch.

http://www.usasurvival.org/images/hillary.jpg

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ushill174590843jan17,0,5641976.story?coll=ny-homepage-bigpix2005&track=mostemailedlink

Hillary's hardball
In MLK day speech, Sen. Clinton slams the Bush team, saying GOP Congress is 'run like a plantation'
BY BRYAN VIRASAMI AND GLENN THRUSH
STAFF WRITERS

January 17, 2006

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton sparked a Martin Luther King Day political firestorm yesterday by describing the GOP-controlled Congress as a "plantation" during a speech before an African-American congregation in Harlem.

"When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about," Clinton (D-N.Y.) told an audience at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ during an event sponsored by the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network.

"It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard," she added to thunderous applause.

It was a rare bout of bombast for the Democratic presidential frontrunner, who often dodges far less combustible topics when pressed by reporters.

Clinton's comparison - likening Republicans to slaveholders - prompted a furious reaction from the congressional GOP, which has been beset by lobbying scandals recently and the indictment of Majority Leader Tom Delay (R-Texas) last year.

"It's always wrong to play the race card for political gain by using a loaded word like plantation," said Rep. Peter King (R-Seaford), who has enjoyed a cordial relationship with the Clintons. "It is particularly wrong to do so on Martin Luther King Day."

A spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee said, "On a day when Americans are focused on the legacy of Martin Luther King, Hillary Clinton is focused on the legacy of Hillary Clinton."

Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines defended her comments, saying Congress was "a top-down system that is fundamentally at odds with how the people's House should operate."

In her speech, Clinton also took a swipe at the Bush White House, predicting, "This administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."

Clinton's performance may have made the gathering of fellow Democrats in attendance wince, but it pleased the event's host.

The senator's remarks echoed "what a lot of us have been saying a long time about the Bush administration," Sharpton said.

Nassau County Executive Thomas Suozzi, a potential candidate for governor, left the event before Clinton arrived, his campaign spokeswoman Kim Devlin said, adding that he was unavailable for comment.

This isn't the first time the former first lady's utterances have provoked an uproar. In 1992, during a "60 Minutes" interview about her husband's infidelity, when he was running for president, Clinton said, "I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette." Wynette complained and Clinton apologized.

A few weeks after the interview, Clinton defended her decision to practice law after the birth of her daughter, saying, "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas." She also apologized for those remarks.

In the same campaign, Bill Clinton criticized rapper Sista Souljah for using racially inflammatory language in the wake of the Los Angeles riots.

[Baqui99]

Al Sharpton didn't seem to mind.

[KingCheetah]

http://www.usasurvival.org/images/hillary.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/kchee/wouldnthit.jpg

[ima_drummer2k]

That looks like Hillary's "Oh" face. You know....OH! OH!

[vlaurelio]

finally a democrat with BALLS

a cnn quick poll asked if her remarks were way off that this is the worst admin in history - 63% said NO

[Trader_Jorge]

finally a democrat with BALLS

For once I agree with you!! Hillary probably does have balls! Hildebeast the hermy?

OH MY GOSH I JUST REALIZED I HAVE A SET OF HUEVOS!!
http://www.usasurvival.org/images/hillary.jpg

OWNED

[DonnyMost]

Well, we all knew the Hildebeast

Only 6 words into it and you already made a remark childish enough to make me completely ignore the rest of the post.

It's a new record!

[vlaurelio]

For once I agree with you!! Hillary probably does have balls! Hildebeast the hermy?

OH MY GOSH I JUST REALIZED I HAVE A SET OF HUEVOS!!

OWNED

you probably ran a plantation yourself not too long ago.. or you wish you did..

you like "owning" people

[bigtexxx]

finally a democrat with BALLS

So it takes balls to drop the race card? It sounds like Hillary doesn't appreciate the horrors that slaves had to go through back then.

[vlaurelio]

So it takes balls to drop the race card? It sounds like Hillary doesn't appreciate the horrors that slaves had to go through back then.

why do you appreciate it? she say's the word plantation and you all panic..

its about the corruption and suppresion of dissent..

its not like majority of the country is up in arms with her remarks..

[rimrocker]

Google "Democratic Plantation."

Gingrich once told a reporter he was leading a "slave rebellion" against the Democrats who "run the plantation."

I also missed your posts criticizing the following:

Townhall
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/StarParker/2005/03/22/14865.html

National Review
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-alt090503.asp

Wall Street Journal
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005867

Rush Limbaugh
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eibessential/real_record_on_race/one_of_the_finest_dissertations_and_final_exams_in_eib_history.guest.html

Newsmax/Boortz
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/11/122038.shtml

Washington Times
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20050203-094808-6939r.htm

Bob Novak
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/25/cf.01.html

From Digby:

When the Republicans talk about the "plantation" they are specifically talking about race, claiming that the Democrats are using (presumably stupid) Black Americans against their own interests.

Hillary was talking about the fact that the Republican leadership treats their own caucus like they are slaves.

Now which of those views is racist?

[Uprising]

you probably ran a plantation yourself not too long ago.. or you wish you did..

you like "owning" people


Okay, I'm sorry....but that was really....really...stupid.

That picture of hillary is freaking scary!

[Trader_Jorge]

Rimrocker, at least put up a link to the verbatim plagiarism from the left wing lunatic fringe website DailyKos when you are linking their material and attempting to pass it off as your own!!
Read what rimrocker tried to pass off as his own right here:
http://www.dailykos.com/

Nice try pal, but you just got


EXPOSED

[rimrocker]

Yep, I got the links from Kos and Digby, google search from Atrios. Clicked through them and read them all to make sure there was an egregious quote about the Dem party keeping minorities on the plantation. Not fun reading such drivel on a trivial matter. Wasn't aware that the BBS Scholarship Committee required cites beyond the originals and certainly there was a recent post by one of your ilk who I would bet did not get the quote directly from Richard Clarke's book. Still, since it's you criticizing... one who has volunteered for service to protect our freedoms (how did it go at the recruitment office?), I'll amend my ways.

By the way, I see you didn't respond to the essence of the post.

[vlaurelio]

Rimrocker, at least put up a link to the verbatim plagiarism from the left wing lunatic fringe website DailyKos when you are linking their material and attempting to pass it off as your own!!
Read what rimrocker tried to pass off as his own right here:
http://www.dailykos.com/

Nice try pal, but you just got


EXPOSED

I didn't know one can "own" links to articles in the internet? does one have to footnote each individual link?

[Sishir Chang]

OWNED

I find it somewhat ironic that in a thread where you criticize Hillary Clinton regarding an inappropiate reference to slavery you loudly declare that you have "OWNED" vlaurelio.

[Mr. Brightside]

I find it somewhat ironic that in a thread where you criticize Hillary Clinton regarding an inappropiate reference to slavery you loudly declare that you have "OWNED" vlaurelio.


its all about compassionate conservatism. remember?

[No Worries]

Gingrich once told a reporter
That really lowers the bar. Hillary should have done better.

[mc mark]

Typical neoconvict response...

Don't debate the issue of the remark, just insult the person it comes from.

Same at it ever was...

[FranchiseBlade]

Rimrocker, at least put up a link to the verbatim plagiarism from the left wing lunatic fringe website DailyKos when you are linking their material and attempting to pass it off as your own!!
Read what rimrocker tried to pass off as his own right here:
http://www.dailykos.com/

Nice try pal, but you just got


EXPOSED
Of course you have yet to address any of the points made, and provide zero substance to your argument. If all you can do is talk about proper links, then we can take it that you have no reply to the issues at hand.

[mc mark]

The House "has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about,"... "It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."

"We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence," ... "I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."

Yep! That sounds about right.

[vlaurelio]

I find it somewhat ironic that in a thread where you criticize Hillary Clinton regarding an inappropiate reference to slavery you loudly declare that you have "OWNED" vlaurelio.

and that's also after admitting that he for once agrees with me?

how can you own someone who you agree with? isn't that self ownership?

[Drewdog]

She will be quite easy to Swift Boat should she make it out of the primaries.

Really? You mean it will be that easy for Republican Campaign Donors to write a horrid book filled with nothing but lies about a potential presidential candidate? I guess we should be scared.....

[reggietodd]

Whether you are a dem or a rep.

How can anybody defend Hilary Clinton in this situation? She gave that speech with only ONE thing in mind. Herself.

[Saint Louis]

Well, we all knew the Hildebeast was a bitter woman,

If the Dems nominate Hillary, God help us all. If given the choice between the Republican candidate and Hillary; I'll be going with option C Libertarian.

Hillary is nothing more then Republican Lite.

[Saint Louis]

Oh, and I wouldn't hit it either. Yuk!

[reggietodd]

Yuk. Hillary has more cottage cheese on here legs than the Kroger deli.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/-/5/hillaryicon.gif

[vlaurelio]

She gave that speech with only ONE thing in mind. Herself.

isn't that RNC's response?

its not like everyone is up in arms with her remarks.. and the bigger remark is this admin is the worst in history.. don't know why y'all ignore to point that out.. you probably agree..

[reggietodd]

and the bigger remark is this admin is the worst in history.. don't know why y'all ignore to point that out.. you probably agree..

He is definitely one of the worst, I agree, but I also think that goes without saying.

[ROXRAN]

The racial bombastic by Hillary is a line up in good recent hits. Keep up the good work neo-demos...

[ROXRAN]

its not like everyone is up in arms with her remarks...

Perhaps not, but it is an ill remark that loses more than it gains.

[halfbreed]

I have yet to find a Democrat that will actually back up the "plantation" portion of the statement and they simply give her a free pass and jump to the Bush is the worst ever part.

Guys, don't be so blinded by hatred for Bush or buy into the new "best/worst ever" label that people have to put on anything. George Bush isn't the worst or the best president we've ever had. We won't even know his legacy until well after he's out of office. Remember shortly after his death Kennedy rated as one of the top 5 presidents of all time. Most historians now rank him in the middle of the pack.

And I still find it apalling that anyone buys the "plantation" remark.

A little off topic, but why do most blacks in America give the Democratic party the benefit of the doubt without demanding results? I mean black leaders have to know that the GOP would kill to get some of their vote. Wouldn't the smart thing to do be to play both parties off of one another and really try to create some progress as opposed to simply throwing all of your support behind one party without demanding results? It just makes no sense to me. :confused:

We all know that one of the only reasons Clinton got off with this is because she's a Democrat (the fact that Bill is her husband doesn't hurt either but that's pretty much the same reason). By giving her a pass isn't that just showing to the Democratic party that black leaders will serve the party instead of the party serving them? It seems as though the leaders of the black community could actually do a lot for black people if they really wanted to but many seem more interested in staying in the limelight (a problem not limited to this community, I know).

[mc mark]

I have yet to find a Democrat that will actually back up the "plantation" portion of the statement

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thenewswire/archive/ap/capbuilding2.jpg

Well...it kinda does look like a plantation.

:D

[Trader_Jorge]

I have yet to find a Democrat that will actually back up the "plantation" portion of the statement

Actually, in a move that brings joy to my heart, Barack Obama defended the statement today!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/18/AR2006011800938.html?nav=rss_politics

What a stupid, ridiculous, unnecessary move by Obama. Why insert himself into this mess? Maybe he's positioning himself to run on Hildebeast's ticket as VP. Maybe she put him up to it. Regardless, the Democrats' constant pimping of slavery and Jim Crow era injustices in an effort to win black votes is beyond repulsive. It's amazing that black voters don't see through it.

[vlaurelio]

this is what Obama said

Obama said Wednesday he felt her choice of words referred to a "consolidation of power" in Washington that squeezes out the voters.

The Illinois senator told CNN's "American Morning" he believed that Clinton was merely expressing concern that special interests play such a large role in writing legislation that "the ordinary voter and even members of Congress who aren't in the majority party don't have much input."

"There's been a consolidation of power by the Republican Congress and this White House in which, if you are the ordinary voter, you don't have access," Obama said. "That should be a source of concern for all of us."

Obama, D-Ill., told ABC's "Good Morning America" that under GOP control in Washington, "what one has seen is the further concentration of power around a very narrow agenda that advantages the most powerful."


yes that was indeed real "stupid, ridiculous, and unnecessary" of him to say that

but this is funny though


New York Rep. Gregory Meeks also defended Clinton.

"There was no race card played here. If any card was played here it was a joker, because that's who seems to be running the House right now if you look at the leadership," said Meeks, a black Democrat.



Obama also said New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was correct to apologize for suggesting that the hurricane-ravaged city would be majority black again because "it's the way God wants it to be."

"If I'm the mayor of New Orleans, I want everybody to come back," said Obama, the Senate's only black member.


here's another "stupid, ridiculous, and unnecessary" move by Obama

[IROC it]

Of course Obama can fully relate to the African American of the deep south, being from Illinois with all of it's tobacco and cotton industry.

I would venture a guess that the further north you go, the less horrible imagery the word "plantation" conjures.

Just a guess.

I do know several people in Texas, of many skin colors, and both major parties, that feel she just shot herself in the foot as a POTUS candidate.

It is also very clear that her tact is from a northern viewpoint now that she is in the big NY position... but that's what politicians do, they play to their constituents.

I'm just thankful that large states in the south wil have a say in the election process.

[Azadre]

Does the southern strategy mean nothing?

[Saint Louis]

Of course Obama can fully relate to the African American of the deep south, being from Illinois with all of it's tobacco and cotton industry.

I would venture a guess that the further north you go, the less horrible imagery the word "plantation" conjures.

Just a guess.

I do know several people in Texas, of many skin colors, and both major parties, that feel she just shot herself in the foot as a POTUS candidate.

It is also very clear that her tact is from a northern viewpoint now that she is in the big NY position... but that's what politicians do, they play to their constituents.

I'm just thankful that large states in the south wil have a say in the election process.

Far better for Hillary to shoot herself in the foot now, so that the Democratic party doesn't waste another presidential election.

[vwiggin]

That was a good post, rimrocker.

Hillary's statement was stupid. She was pandering to a specific segment of her base and her statements are obviously more divisive than they are helpful.

God I hope we don't run Hillary as our presidential candidate.

[real_egal]

That was a good post, rimrocker.

Hillary's statement was stupid. She was pandering to a specific segment of her base and her statements are obviously more divisive than they are helpful.

God I hope we don't run Hillary as our presidential candidate.

I probably don't have that sensitivity because of my background. I would like to apologize in advance. However, my question is, we know that some republicans are offended, or feel that they have to act offended. ARe the liberals really offended by her remark? Or are those liberals trying so hard to figure out what potential voters might think, just as when they dumped Dean? I mean, are they really offended, or they are more worried that others might be offended?

Now the real question is, are African Americans really offended? Or only those Coacasian republican leaders acted offended? If the majority of the African American communities are not offended at all, what's the big deal then, except everything she said is used by the opposition against her?

[nyquil82]

Silly T_J, only Republicans can be racist!!!

Likewise, only Democrats can be unpatriotic, just accept the reality and move on!

[vwiggin]

I probably don't have that sensitivity because of my background. I would like to apologize in advance. However, my question is, we know that some republicans are offended, or feel that they have to act offended. ARe the liberals really offended by her remark? Or are those liberals trying so hard to figure out what potential voters might think, just as when they dumped Dean? I mean, are they really offended, or they are more worried that others might be offended?

Now the real question is, are African Americans really offended? Or only those Coacasian republican leaders acted offended? If the majority of the African American communities are not offended at all, what's the big deal then, except everything she said is used by the opposition against her?

*shrug*

Good questions. I didn't say I was offended, I only said such statements were stupid.

I can't speak for the African Americans, but I suspect the Republicans have a right to be offended for being compared to slave owners.

[Saint Louis]

I probably don't have that sensitivity because of my background. I would like to apologize in advance. However, my question is, we know that some republicans are offended, or feel that they have to act offended. ARe the liberals really offended by her remark? Or are those liberals trying so hard to figure out what potential voters might think, just as when they dumped Dean? I mean, are they really offended, or they are more worried that others might be offended?

Now the real question is, are African Americans really offended? Or only those Coacasian republican leaders acted offended? If the majority of the African American communities are not offended at all, what's the big deal then, except everything she said is used by the opposition against her?

I for one am pissed because I would rather the focus not be on race but on whether you are in the haves or haves not. Yes African-Americans have less economically then Anglos/Caucasians/Whites, but focus on improving things for every color. I look at Capital Hill being run by a bunch of elitists, not by a bunch of plantation owners. A good chunk of Congress is not from the South and I bet there are plenty of Democrats who are guilty of acting in the same manner she criticized. Not so long ago the "solid South" was Democratic. I feel sorry for the African-American community if all their vote requires is someone to play the race card. I hope for so much more and would expect them to demand more out of their candidates. I disliked Hillary Clinton before this, but she absolutely does not get my vote now. Note to the Democratic Party, look elsewhere.

[Sishir Chang]

Now the real question is, are African Americans really offended?

Looking through this thread I haven't noticed any of the posters who I know are African-American (like Krosfyah, Rocket River, Aggie Rocket) have posted here saying they are offended.

[Saint Louis]

Looking through this thread I haven't noticed any of the posters who I know are African-American (like Krosfyah, Rocket River, Aggie Rocket) have posted here saying they are offended.

It would be interesting to get their opinion.

[real_egal]

I for one am pissed because I would rather the focus not be on race but on whether you are in the haves or haves not. Yes African-Americans have less economically then Anglos/Caucasians/Whites, but focus on improving things for every color. I look at Capital Hill being run by a bunch of elitists, not by a bunch of plantation owners. A good chunk of Congress is not from the South and I bet there are plenty of Democrats who are guilty of acting in the same manner she criticized. Not so long ago the "solid South" was Democratic. I feel sorry for the African-American community if all their vote requires is someone to play the race card. I hope for so much more and would expect them to demand more out of their candidates. I disliked Hillary Clinton before this, but she absolutely does not get my vote now. Note to the Democratic Party, look elsewhere.

Maybe we are all over-sensitive about the race card? Do African Americans feel that remark is directly race related? I am really interested in that. So far, I haven't seen any African American community leader coming out to condemn or criticize that so-called race card. Isn't that strange, if it's indeed a race-card? It's not like every African American is a liberal. How come nobody says they are offended, but rather those non-African American claim that's out of bound, race-card, and offending African American? It just doesn't make sense to me at all.

[vlaurelio]

I don't think the remark was directly race related

she made a comparison to a "plantation" where people in control have too much power and everyone else is disenfranchised.

she could have used a different comparison but she used that since her audience might be able to understand / relate to it better

but I don't think she was trying to say race had something to do with whats going on in the administration

[Aceshigh7]

She and the entire democratic party are a joke. God, I hope she wins the nomination in 08. It will make it such a cakewalk for whoever the republican nominee is.

[real_egal]

She and the entire democratic party are a joke. God, I hope she wins the nomination in 08. It will make it such a cakewalk for whoever the republican nominee is.

In today's political environment, only those with strong personality and position could win. Everything is radical. Mild ones seem to easy-going, you might think that they can satisfy everyone, but in reality, they satisfy nobody. If she wins the nomination, watch out, don't underestimate the impact of a good old Bill.

[RocketMan Tex]

Google "Democratic Plantation."

Gingrich once told a reporter

I also missed your posts criticizing the following:

Townhall
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/StarParker/2005/03/22/14865.html

National Review
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-alt090503.asp

Wall Street Journal
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005867

Rush Limbaugh
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eibessential/real_record_on_race/one_of_the_finest_dissertations_and_final_exams_in_eib_history.guest.html

Newsmax/Boortz
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/11/122038.shtml

Washington Times
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20050203-094808-6939r.htm

Bob Novak
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/25/cf.01.html

From Digby:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/17/gingrich-plantation/

“I clearly fascinate them,” Gingrich said of the Democrats. “I’m much more intense, much more persistent, much more willing to take risks to get it done. Since they think it is their job to run the plantation, it shocks them that I’m actually willing to lead the slave rebellion.” [Washington Post, 10/20/94]

Personally, I do not have a problem with either Hillary Clinton's comments earlier this week, nor with Newt Gingrich's comments from 1994. The House of Representatives is run like a plantation. The majority party holds complete sway over the minority party, and the minority party has very little power in the House, if any. It's a completely different setup than the Senate, and it's something that the members of the minority party in the House have been bitching about since George Washington was President.

[plcmts17]

She and the entire democratic party are a joke. God, I hope she wins the nomination in 08. It will make it such a cakewalk for whoever the republican nominee is.
There aren't enough :rolleyes: to give you and your fellow republiklans when it comes to the race issue's. Why don't you guys just stick to something you're good at...like illegally taking bribes and getting indicted, yeah that's the ticket.

[andymoon]

Maybe we are all over-sensitive about the race card? Do African Americans feel that remark is directly race related? I am really interested in that. So far, I haven't seen any African American community leader coming out to condemn or criticize that so-called race card. Isn't that strange, if it's indeed a race-card? It's not like every African American is a liberal. How come nobody says they are offended, but rather those non-African American claim that's out of bound, race-card, and offending African American? It just doesn't make sense to me at all.

It is only a "racial bomb" if you are a white person who doesn't like the accurate analogy.

[basso]

http://daybydaycartoon.com/Cartoons/01-19-2006.gif

[reggietodd]

If GWB for the rebulicans and Hillary for the Dems is the best this country can offer for a leader, then we are in big trouble. Sad.

[vlaurelio]

just curious, aside from the use of the word plantation, what else is offensive or wrong in her speech?

[glynch]

A little off topic, but why do most blacks in America give the Democratic party the benefit of the doubt without demanding results? I mean black leaders have to know that the GOP would kill to get some of their vote. Wouldn't the smart thing to do be to play both parties off of one another and really try to create some progress as opposed to simply throwing all of your support behind one party without demanding results? It just makes no sense to me. :confused:

....

It seems as though the leaders of the black community could actually do a lot for black people if they really wanted to but many seem more interested in staying in the limelight (a problem not limited to this community, I know).

Welll the Democrats have come through for Black people-- at least in comparison with the GOP. The Dems have not consistently opposed Civil Rights Laws as we see with the Bush gang still opposing the Voting Rights Acts. They have spent money on education programs for Blacks and supported affirmative action and 0ther programs that the GOP has not. By passing tax breaks for the upper classes and cutting such programs as student loans the GOP has hurt Blacks.

[glynch]

It is ridicuolous for the GOP the party who has an important segment the racists of America, trying to create a faux racial issue out of the remarks.

********
Obama said Wednesday he felt her choice of words referred to a "consolidation of power" in Washington that squeezes out the voters.

The Illinois senator told CNN's "American Morning" he believed that Clinton was merely expressing concern that special interests play such a large role in writing legislation that "the ordinary voter and even members of Congress who aren't in the majority party don't have much input."

"There's been a consolidation of power by the Republican Congress and this White House in which, if you are the ordinary voter, you don't have access," Obama said. "That should be a source of concern for all of us."

New York Rep. Gregory Meeks also defended Clinton.

"There was no race card played here. If any card was played here it was a joker, because that's who seems to be running the House right now if you look at the leadership," said Meeks, a black Democrat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...av=rss_politics

[vlaurelio]

I have yet to find a Democrat that will actually back up the "plantation" portion of the statement and they simply give her a free pass and jump to the Bush is the worst ever part.

And I still find it apalling that anyone buys the "plantation" remark.

A little off topic, but why do most blacks in America give the Democratic party the benefit of the doubt without demanding results?

I'm confused as well with what's racist or appalling about comparing house of reps to a plantation?

""When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about"

"It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard,"

did she say house of reps was like a plantation because of white masters and black slaves?

democrats and blacks don't have to give her a free pass because there's really nothing wrong with what she said..

the gop may pretend that she's using the race card but they're just afraid to accept the fact that in the house of reps if one party has a monopoly of power and abuses that power, it can be "run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard" just like a platation.. the gop said the samething when democrats dominated house of reps..

and its not like she compared the war on terror to a crusade..

[rrj_gamz]

"When you look at the way the House of Representatives has been run, it has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about," Clinton (D-N.Y.) told an audience at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ during an event sponsored by the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network.

In her speech, Clinton also took a swipe at the Bush White House, predicting, "This administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."


She's on crack...Just another way to get her name in the news...How is this not offensive, but to each his own...