New Orleans' Mayor Predicts a Chocolate City!

[Trader_Jorge]

Willie Wonka, get ready!!

Is Ray Nagin the black version of David Duke? The guy has lost his mind. If this comment is made by a white mayor, the NAACP would be tripping over themselves to protest. In the midst of a fund raising campaign to help rebuild New Orleans, Mayor Nagin's divisive commentary isn't going to help.

New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
Jan 16 9:44 PM US/Eastern

By BRETT MARTEL
Associated Press Writer

NEW ORLEANS

Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.

"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.

"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."

Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again. Many of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.

"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans _ the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."

Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil rights leader.

"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, `The thing we need to focus on as a community _ black folks I'm talking about _ is ourselves.'"

Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"

The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."

Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are "most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."

A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's birthday. Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of mostly black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or witnesses.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/16/D8F65JUG5.html

[basso]

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/parliamentfunkadelic/images/hist_chocolate.jpg

mmmmm, nutella.

[Ottomaton]

I was pretty sure he was not right in the head when he declared that the CIA was trying to "take him out" (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7000018155).

[lost_elephant]

This guy is a racist nutjob.

[rimrocker]

Have patience. He's a recovering Republican.

[FranchiseBlade]

Nagin, seems and has seemed throughout the whole Katrina mess, to be incompetant, and dishonest.

[rimrocker]

Nagin, seems and has seemed throughout the whole Katrina mess, to be incompetant, and dishonest.

Yes. And as I noted, he's a recovering Republican.

[Pole]

Yes. And as I noted, he's a recovering Republican.

But he seems to make much more news now that he's a Democrat. I wonder if he fell on his head.

Anyway, I'm sure he wouldn't be in the news if not for Katrina.

[FranchiseBlade]

Yes. And as I noted, he's a recovering Republican.
Well must all try and be merciful in our judgements knowing what afflictions he suffers :D

[SwoLy-D]

http://www.click2houston.com/news/6153685/detail.html

Man, I never EVER start (maybe once) any thread at all in the D&D, and never come here to pee or poop on anyone, whether yellow, purple, brown, black or white, but I thought that when I saw the article above my wife pointed out in Click2Houston, all heck was going to break loose.

This further points out this mayor's incompetence. I read an article in the December/January issue of Hispanic Magazine, a magazine which honors outstanding all sorts of "Latino" or "Hispanic" people in the U.S., which spoke of "In Katrina's Wake" what Mayor Nagin had said:
... one of the worst Katrina moments came when New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who was hardly a model of competence in the aftermath of the disaster, told reporters that he was worried that his city might be "overrun by Mexican workers."

It seems a hurricane can wope out just about everything--except ignorance. This was after pointing out that it was mostly Hispanics (mainly Mexican immigrant workers) who took the challenge of going to New Orleans to rebuild the city all the way from as far as California and Arizona. You KNEW that it was mostly Mexicans, not African Americans, taking up the manual labor jobs regardless of place and pay.

Sad things this mayor does, indeed. :mad: , then :(

[rimrocker]

He would have my support if wanted to remake New Orleans in the image of Chocolate Thunder.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/dave_hollander/03/01/dawkins/t1_dawkins3.jpg

[Mr. Clutch]

He's worried about losing his job. If his traditional base of African American voters doesn't come back he's done for.

[BigSherv]

As a minority I hate seeing stuff like this.

No one wants a chocolate city, no one wants a vanilla city, a sweet and sour city, a salsa city or a curry city.

[Trader_Jorge]

No one wants a chocolate city, no one wants a vanilla city, a sweet and sour city, a salsa city or a curry city.

That is not true. I desperately want a Jose's Dip City, in honor of the appetizer at Molina's.

[Deckard]

I want what New Orleans once was. We can never have her back again, in quite the same way, but we can work to make her the best she can be, considering all that has happened. Nagin will meet his justice at the ballot box. It is up to the nation to help give New Orleans her justice, which is to live again. In my opinion.


Keep D&D Civil.

[Rocket River]

Nagin has .. uhm . . issues
He has lost his balance and focus . . .
He is not being a very good politician

though
he does raise a concern among black folx
the idea that . . basically the poor folx were left to languish
so that they can be run off their land.

There is *real* concern that they will not be allowed to go back
that will be taken from them and sold to Corps

Rocket River
. . . . I've heard much talk about that

[EddieWasSnubbed]

We all know he's just trying to land a reality tv show....

[robbie380]

Nagin has .. uhm . . issues
He has lost his balance and focus . . .
He is not being a very good politician

though
he does raise a concern among black folx
the idea that . . basically the poor folx were left to languish
so that they can be run off their land.

There is *real* concern that they will not be allowed to go back
that will be taken from them and sold to Corps

Rocket River
. . . . I've heard much talk about that

ummmmmmm..... :confused: :confused: :confused:

this guy has consistently made racist comments and he would be completely ostracized and portrayed in the light of a david duke if he was not black.

so you state he has lost his balance, focus, and is being a poor politician???? come on man thats pretty weak. i don't need to break down his comments so if you don't see how bad they are then i don't know what to say.

[RocketMan Tex]

That is not true. I desperately want a Jose's Dip City, in honor of the appetizer at Molina's.

Good to see that the fact you have no taste whatsoever extends to your choice of restaurants!

:eek: ;) :D

[A-Train]

http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2004/12/what_registering_feels_like.jpg

Just watch out when you bite into those chocolate lamp posts...make sure they don't fall on you...

[SwoLy-D]

Mayor Nagin explains, defends the term "chocolate" (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/free;_ylt=AjU3mkDs9ukB9yb_J9nRNRlH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTBhNXIwMGFqBHNlYwN2cHJvbW8-?ch=68276&cl=243319) (video)
"white and black coming together to make something special".
I guess he don't want us browns and yellows and dark browns in there... *sob*... :(

[Rocket River]

ummmmmmm..... :confused: :confused: :confused:

this guy has consistently made racist comments and he would be completely ostracized and portrayed in the light of a david duke if he was not black.

so you state he has lost his balance, focus, and is being a poor politician???? come on man thats pretty weak. i don't need to break down his comments so if you don't see how bad they are then i don't know what to say.

I'm not trying to be a bad teammate *grin*
:D

Rocket River
. . . I have little for Mr Nagin about now. I'm no sure what he trying to accomplish. I know what he is voicing. . . ergo the explaination. . . but I think he is perhaps misrepresenting his city and his people . .. I dunno the man personally . . and cannot use a history like in David Dukes' case to put his comments in context. I err on the side of him simply chosing his words poorly . . .but in all honesty . . if he is a racist. . . then he deserves what he gets

[pgabriel]

you guys are reaching. the guy isn't the brightest bulb but I don't see why you would take offense to that. He could have chosen better words, but all he was saying is that New Orleans will return to its old self, part of that is that is a majority black city.


I notice all you conservatives missed the part about how he talked about the black community in new orleans improving itself, something you guys are always harping on.

[pgabriel]

if san antonio was destroyed by an earthquake and the mayor came out afterwards and said this city will be Mexican city it was before the earthquake would you take offense to it? I wouldn't. Being majority Hispanic is part of was makes san antonio the city it is.

its no different from new orleans. now if he said we don't want any other people here, yeah that would be racist.

[mleahy999]

The two times that I've been to NO, I recalled the city being ~75% black. Nagin could've used much better words, but he's just saying that the city's demo will return to what it was before. Yes, he's an idiot. He's like a small town politician who's not shy about who his constituency are and looking after their interest.

[Rocket River]

you guys are reaching. the guy isn't the brightest bulb but I don't see why you would take offense to that. He could have chosen better words, but all he was saying is that New Orleans will return to its old self, part of that is that is a majority black city.


I notice all you conservatives missed the part about how he talked about the black community in new orleans improving itself, something you guys are always harping on.


I agree
I am beginning to think he just speaks before thinking
I'm even more worried if this was a PREPARED Speak

Also . . I think some folx look to jump on a person . .. no matter that they say
and they base it on things that should not matter. . .
Content of your Character. . not what letter by your name


Rocket River

[FranchiseBlade]

Little Palaces :Elvis Costello

Little Palaces

In Chocolate Town all the trains are painted brown
On the silver paper of the wrapper
There's a dapper little man
And he wears a wax moustache
That he twists with nicotine fingers
As he drops his cigarette ash
And someone comes and sweeps it up
And then he doffs his cap
And there's a rat in someone's bedroom
And they're shutting someone's trap
And they'll soon be pulling down the little palaces

And the doors swing back and forward, from the past into the present
And the bedside crucifixion turns from wood to phosphorescent.
And they're moving problem families from the South up to the North,
Mother's crying over some soft soap opera divorce,
And you say you didn't do it, but you know you did of course,
And they'll soon be pulling down the little palaces.

It's like shouting in a matchbox, filled with plasterboard and hope,
Like a picture of Prince William in the arms of John the Pope.
There's a world of good intentions, and pity in their eyes,
The sedated homes of England, are theirs to vandalize.

So you knock the kids about a bit, because they've got your name,
And you knock the kids about a bit, until they feel the same.
And they feel like knocking down the little palaces.

You're the twinkle in your daddy's eye, a name you spray and scribble,
You made the girls all turn their heads, and in turn they made you miserable.
To be the heir apparent, to the kingdom of the invisible.

So you knock the kids about a bit, because they've got your name,
And you knock the kids about a bit, until they feel the same.
And they feel like knocking down the little palaces.

[reggietodd]

I guess I10 will be the new Hershey Highway.

[basso]

I guess I10 will be the new Hershey Highway.

I come down
from the misty mountain
I got lost
on the hershey highway
Take my head
refreshing fountain
Take my eyes
from what they've seen.
Take my head
and change my mind
How could people
get so unkind.

[pgabriel]

nagin is like steve francis with his public speaking


the honesty is refreshing, be he should used the filter between brain and mouth more often.

[Saint Louis]

I always saw New Orleans as more of an Oreo city, black on the outside with a white cream filling.

All I can say about Nagin, cocaine is a hell of a drug.

[ima_drummer2k]

Nagin, seems and has seemed throughout the whole Katrina mess, to be incompetant, and dishonest.
Of course he is. He's a Louisana politician. Isn't being incompetant and dishonest a prerequisite?

[Uprising]

That was one of the strangest speeches I have ever heard from a city official, let alone the mayor. That city is in need of a good leader to help them recover via the local government. I'm not too sure Nagin is their man. Seriously that guy is nuts.

[Sishir Chang]

New Orleans Mayor Says God Mad at U.S.
Jan 16 9:44 PM US/Eastern

Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.

"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.


I found this very disturbing. It sounds like he's been huffing from the Pat Robertson pipe.
"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, `The thing we need to focus on as a community _ black folks I'm talking about _ is ourselves.'"

Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"

The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."

Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are "most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."


I don't see though why many of y'all are criticizing him for this. Isn't this pretty much the samething that Bill Cosby has been saying?

As for New Orleans being a black city that is a fact and one of the big concerns I've heard in New Orleans was that many residents fear it won't be but will be turned into a gentrified mostly white historical piece like the French Quarter and the Garden District is. Mayor Nagin has been taking a lot of heat over this possibility because many residents feel that this is what he would like since his reputation had been pro-business and tourism.

[Hakeem06]

nagin is not racist....he's just freakin' insane. that guy hasn't said one thing that a "leader" like a mayor of an extremely large city would say in a time like this. i just want to know how in the hell that guy got elected into office?

[Rocket River]

Of course he is. He's a Louisana politician. Isn't being incompetant and dishonest a prerequisite?


Yea . . i guess at this point he has not grown INTO being corrupt yet

Rocket River

[emjohn]

Yea . . i guess at this point he has not grown INTO being corrupt yet
I don't think you know this guy very well. I was watching him pre-Katrina, and you can believe he's as corrupt as they come.

Nagin is a disgrace.

Evan

[hotballa]

In other news, the mayor of Boston has issued a decree that it will be rebuilt into its all Caucasian glory.

[Invisible Fan]

If the black electorate re-elects Nagin, he will be their problem.

[glad_ken]

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWL011705tpnaginapology.10dbc4fe.html

Nagin apologizes for MLK Day comments

11:30 AM CST on Tuesday, January 17, 2006
WWLTV.com



New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin apologized Tuesday for some of the comments that he made during a Martin Luther King Day Rally in the city Monday.


Nagin said that his intention was to comfort African-American residents, especially those feeling unwanted during the rebuilding process, but he said in doing so he inadvertently offended others.


“I apologize to any resident in this city that may have been offended,” he said. “That was not my intention. If I could take anything back, I thought the Uptown comment was inappropriate. If any people are working hard to rebuild this city, it’s the people Uptown.”


In his speech, Nagin had said that despite what some Uptown might be saying, that New Orleans would again be a majority African-American city.


Nagin also apologized for invoking God in his speech, saying that it was inappropriate.


Nagin’s speech included a statement that God wanted New Orleans to be majority African-American.


“Unfortunately, everything I say today is scrutinized to the nth degree,” he said. “It was Martin Luther King’s birthday. I thought it was appropriate to address some of the concerns and frustrations I’m hearing from the African-American community.”

[rimrocker]

I wonder if he apologized for making up a bad conversation with MLK?

[pgabriel]

I wonder if he apologized for making up a bad conversation with MLK?



"you ain't ever met no Martin Luther the King"


"I DID MEET MARTIN LUTHER THE KING
I was walking down the street in Memphis
and somebody hit me in the chest and I said, "Martin Luther King
why'd you hit me, and he said sorry, I thought you was somebody else"

[KingCheetah]

http://tinypic.com/keg1hh.jpg

How did Mayor Ray Nagin get a ticket to Chocolate Cittay!?

[IROC it]

Nagin=the Anti-MLKJr.

[Hakeem06]

as nagin appologized he talked about his conversation this morning with malcom x, richard pryor, and tupac.....

[tested911]

The Dude is a F@cking racist.. I hope he gets kicked out as Mayor.

[Another Brother]

i give.

[Sishir Chang]

The Dude is a F@cking racist.. I hope he gets kicked out as Mayor.

Depending on who gets back into the New Orleans for the vote its very possible that someone even more outspoken on racial issues will be elected. The reason why Nagin has made statements like that is previously many of the poorer African-American residents felt Nagin wasn't doing enough to address their issues.

[SwoLy-D]

Sishir, that shouldn't have been the way to address the issues, though I hear what you are saying.i give.I heard he wants an ALL CHOCOLATE baseball team. ;)


Seriously, though. What the heck were his "uptown" comments? I don't know what Downtown, Uptown, Sidetown, or Sidewaystown he's talking about, but is he saying all this stuff about only some people are the hardest-working people? What about all my brown brothers rebuilding the city? Certainly I don't see that mentioned anywhere. ;)

[tested911]

Depending on who gets back into the New Orleans for the vote its very possible that someone even more outspoken on racial issues will be elected. The reason why Nagin has made statements like that is previously many of the poorer African-American residents felt Nagin wasn't doing enough to address their issues.

Wait a second.. hold on ...

From an Asian point of view..

I don’t think the mayor in Houston is doing enough for Asian immigrants. We're mistreated I think we should go ahead and make this a Yellow City.. Because god wants it that way.. We need to make it a yellow city..


From a White's point of view...

There are too many immigrants in Houston. They are taking all the jobs and crime has shot up cause of our new Katrina neighbors. I think we need to clean up this town and make if Vanilla.. Yeah you know what I’m saying. God is angry at us and we need to start to make this a vanilla city.

Now tell me is any of that Racist? I don't care whats happened to you or your city. But you don't make public statements like that if your a Mayor.

They should kick him out of his position right now.

[glad_ken]

Here is the video of Nagin's speech.


http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=46812&catId=53

[Sishir Chang]

Sishir, that shouldn't have been the way to address the issues, though I hear what you are saying.

I'm not saying its right I'm explaining why he would make a statement like that and for those who think that the voters of NO should kick him out for making racist statements should understand that many voters in NO want their mayor to make statements like that.

My own read on Nagin is that he himself probably doesn't believe what he's saying but is saying stuff like that considering how much heat has gotten in the past and also in light of the most recent NOLA recovery plan that has been heavily criticized by residents and others for possibly doing away with many of the African American neighborhoods. His statement about NO being a "Chocalate City" IMO is a direct response to critics accusing him of possibly whitewashing the city with a plan that could gut mostly African American neighborhoods.

[rimrocker]

On The Daily Show last night they had a clip of him trying to explain it away by saying something like, "Do you know how you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate and white milk, mix them together and get a tasty treat."

Must. Dig. Hole. Deeper.

[SWTsig]

On The Daily Show last night they had a clip of him trying to explain it away by saying something like, "Do you know how you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate and white milk, mix them together and get a tasty treat."

Must. Dig. Hole. Deeper.

that speech was uncomfortable..... like a train wreck, you just cant look away.

the "taint" report by ed helms had me in tears, though. especially the diagram.

[wnes]

What's wrong with 1 chocolate city in the entire USA? Don't we have many vanilla milk cities all over the place?

[Saint Louis]

Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in the market down in New Orleans
Scarred old slaver knows he's doing alright
Hear him whip the women just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good
Brown sugar just like a young girl should- ah hum oh..
Woo!

Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin' where it's gonna stop
House boy knows that he's doing alright
You shoulda heard him just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, now?
Brown sugar just like a young girl should, now - yeah!

Ah, get it on brown sugar, how come you taste so good, babe?
Ah, got me feelin' now for brown sugar, just like a black girl should yeah

Now I bet your mama was a tent show queen
And all here boyfriends were sweet sixteen
I'm no schoolboy but I know what I like
You shoulda heard me just around midnight

Brown sugar how come you taste so good, babe?
Ah, brown sugar just like a young girl should, yeah

I said yeah, yeah, yeah, woo!
How come you...how come you taste so good?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo!
Just like a...just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo!

[basso]

Wait a second.. hold on ...

From an Asian point of view..

I don’t think the mayor in Houston is doing enough for Asian immigrants. We're mistreated I think we should go ahead and make this a Yellow City.. Because god wants it that way.. We need to make it a yellow city..


From a White's point of view...

There are too many immigrants in Houston. They are taking all the jobs and crime has shot up cause of our new Katrina neighbors. I think we need to clean up this town and make if Vanilla.. Yeah you know what I’m saying. God is angry at us and we need to start to make this a vanilla city.

Now tell me is any of that Racist? I don't care whats happened to you or your city. But you don't make public statements like that if your a Mayor.

They should kick him out of his position right now.

Black wants out of the streets
Yellow wants the country
Red wants the country back
And white wants out of this world
Sing - sing to the sky
I want to ride the tiger
I want to ride the tiger.

[basso]

Nagin’s speech included a statement that God wanted New Orleans to be majority African-American.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.

[xcamm1]

I dont understand where he gets away with just an apology. If a white mayor would say something to the affect of. God wants this city to be a white city, its his will blah blah blah. He would be kicked out of office, and be labeled a racist until he dies. What bothers me the most is the double standard that is there. Black people can talk talk talk, then when it comes to white people if they call someone black they are a racist. I feel this double standard not only stirs the racism of the true racist, but embraces all sterotypes and seperation we have today.

[pgabriel]

I dont understand where he gets away with just an apology. If a white mayor would say something to the affect of. God wants this city to be a white city, its his will blah blah blah. He would be kicked out of office, and be labeled a racist until he dies. What bothers me the most is the double standard that is there. Black people can talk talk talk, then when it comes to white people if they call someone black they are a racist. I feel this double standard not only stirs the racism of the true racist, but embraces all sterotypes and seperation we have today.



he did get criticism for his comments. its all over the news, what are you talking about?

[insane man]

I dont understand where he gets away with just an apology. If a white mayor would say something to the affect of. God wants this city to be a white city, its his will blah blah blah. He would be kicked out of office, and be labeled a racist until he dies. What bothers me the most is the double standard that is there. Black people can talk talk talk, then when it comes to white people if they call someone black they are a racist. I feel this double standard not only stirs the racism of the true racist, but embraces all sterotypes and seperation we have today.

because race and racial attitudes aren't formed in a vacuum. the context of race relations in america reflect america's historic tradition. when a white guy says anti-black stuff he's inherently put in the context of 200 years of slavery followed by 100 years of de jure discrimination. and most white folks who'd make such statements know this history and probably use it to make their anti-black comments. obviously that would be treated worse than a black guy saying we want this city to remain black.

[lost_elephant]

because race and racial attitudes aren't formed in a vacuum. the context of race relations in america reflect america's historic tradition. when a white guy says anti-black stuff he's inherently put in the context of 200 years of slavery followed by 100 years of de jure discrimination. and most white folks who'd make such statements know this history and probably use it to make their anti-black comments. obviously that would be treated worse than a black guy saying we want this city to remain black.

This was a comment by an educated black man who knew the statements were going to appeal to blacks. He did it because he was trying to save his own neck, its disgusting, cowardly, and racist.

[Saint Louis]

Hmm, Nagin was afraid that the CIA was after him. Jim Jones used to think the CIA was after him too. Note to self, don't drink any punch offered by Nagin.

[Drewdog]

a Chocolate City???

Good news for this guy:

http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/ww_013.jpg

[Aceshigh7]

Nagin is one of the most unprofessional and incompetent elected leaders i've ever seen. If the people of NO and LA have any sense, they will vote out both him and governor Blanco at their earliest opportunity. Of course, they voted those imbeciles into office in the first place so I doubt that will happen.

[Phi83]

As a follow up to this story:

http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0125/6425623_240X180.jpg

Link (http://www.local6.com/news/6425567/detail.html)

[rrj_gamz]

I'm a little late, but this is almost laughable...However, its par for the course...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/rrj_gamz/Nagin.gif

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b400/rrj_gamz/Superdome.jpg