Aubrey Huff to Houston?

[rocketfat]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2006/01/aubrey_huff_to_.html


Would be a nice little addition. Can play anywhere on the field pretty much.

[MadMax]

i have no idea where this guy would play.

[The Cat]

I'd assume Lane or Taveras would be in the deal; otherwise, yeah, that's just way too many players for the four 1B/OF spots.

[jtotheb]

Not sure that he's that much of an upgrade over Lane.

[justtxyank]

A guy who's numbers hit the crapper the minute steroid testing got serious. :confused:

[rocketfat]

well, i am guessing mcclane and purpura are planning to proceed on the assumption that they are bagwell-less, and this seems like a decent, relatively cheap replacement.

[The Cat]

Not sure that he's that much of an upgrade over Lane.

He had one down year; otherwise, his career numbers are fantastic and he has the kind of plate discipline along with his power that Jason Lane can only dream about. Yes, it's a huge upgrade to Lane or Taveras if that's the move.

[MadMax]

He had one down year; otherwise, his career numbers are fantastic and he has the kind of plate discipline along with his power that Jason Lane can only dream about. Yes, it's a huge upgrade to Lane or Taveras if that's the move.

i agree and i'm still surprised.

does this mean the tejada deal is still on?? :)

[Groogrux]

Maybe we can give them Burns for Huff straight-up. The best GM ever just signed Dan Miceli to a two year deal, so it's obvious he's smoking something good.

[NJRocket]

He had one down year; otherwise, his career numbers are fantastic and he has the kind of plate discipline along with his power that Jason Lane can only dream about. Yes, it's a huge upgrade to Lane or Taveras if that's the move.

agree 100%...this guy is a definite upgrade over Lane

[The Cat]

If you're a team like the Astros, this is the kind of move you have to make if you want to have an elite offense. We don't have the prospects to get an Adam Dunn. We don't have the revenue to afford Manny Ramirez or even Miguel Tejada. You have to buy low, sell high and take advantage of when opposition players are undervalued and your own players are overvalued.

Before last year, Huff's last three seasons:
2002: .313, 23 HR, .364 OBP, .884 OPS
2003: .311, 34 HR, .367 OBP, .922 OPS
2004: .297, 29 HR, .360 OBP, .853 OPS

It's not a fluke when you do it three years in a row.

On the other hand, Jason Lane was so streaky that he couldn't even stay in the lineup during his bad stretches (May). He's a right-handed hitter whose numbers are slightly inflated by the Crawford Boxes. He has zero plate discipline along with a high strikeout rate, so you don't get a lot of quality at-bats either. Huff, however, had one bad year in the horrible baseball town of Tampa where it's incredibly easy to lose focus... it's not time to give up on him.

The more I think about it, the more excited I get... a power-hitter with plate discipline that's left-handed? That would be incredible, though obviously it's not exactly a credible rumor at this point in time.

[NJRocket]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2006/01/aubrey_huff_to_.html


Would be a nice little addition. Can play anywhere on the field pretty much.

who reports on this website? have they ever been in the know regarding trades or is this just some random guys' opinion?

[Baqui99]

I think Preston Wilson fills the hole in LF. I'm not sure I see the need for Huff at this point.

[NJRocket]

I think Preston Wilson fills the hole in LF. I'm not sure I see the need for Huff at this point.

Well he is an upgrade over 2 of our OF spots IMO....1 for certain (Lane...he is better than Willie but I dont think im ready to give up on another speedy CF this early on a la Lofton). So assuming that either WT or Lane is involved, thats where he would play.

[The Cat]

I think Preston Wilson fills the hole in LF. I'm not sure I see the need for Huff at this point.

We have five players currently at the 1B/OF spots: Berkman, Wilson, Lane, Taveras and Bagwell. Out of those five, Huff is likely better than all but Berkman. He's not necessary, but he'd sure be nice to have and a very nice upgrade.

[Baqui99]

Well he is an upgrade over 2 of our OF spots IMO....1 for certain (Lane...he is better than Willie but I dont think im ready to give up on another speedy CF this early on a la Lofton). So assuming that either WT or Lane is involved, thats where he would play.

If we can somehow get Adam Everett involved in this deal, I'd like it better.

But giving up on Taveras after only 1 year is a mistake.

[candlegreen]

We have five players currently at the 1B/OF spots: Berkman, Wilson, Lane, Taveras and Bagwell. Out of those five, Huff is likely better than all but Berkman. He's not necessary, but he'd sure be nice to have and a very nice upgrade.

Those are the people fighting for starting positions, at least. Don't forget Lamb as a possible 1B and people like Palmiero getting playing time here and there... as well as Chris Burke. I firmly believe that the Astros were lobbying hard for a package deal to get Tejada, setting themselves up into a position where their bench gets overloaded.

[rikesh316]

That website sucks. One guy just makes up websites from fantasy world. Its like the hoopsworld of baseball.

[RocketFan007]

From ESPN Insider:

"As soon as I signed my three-year deal [in 2004], probably a week after I signed my deal, there [were] rumors of me getting traded already," Huff told WXTB Radio. "That's happened every year since then. If you want to trade me, trade me. Just get it over with. I'm sick of hearing the rumors. If you want to do it, do it. If not, let's stop talking about it."

[ArtV]

... I firmly believe that the Astros were lobbying hard for a package deal to get Tejada, setting themselves up into a position where their bench gets overloaded.

That's my late Christmas wish... Upgrade the OF and get Tejada while keeping Berkman, Ensberg, Biggio and all of our SPs. Roger just might come back for 1 more year if this were to happen.

[Fegwu]

I think Preston Wilson fills the hole in LF. I'm not sure I see the need for Huff at this point.

There is need fpr Huff. We cannot have two players with very poor plate discipline in Lane and Preston in the lineup compounded with the presence of folks like Ausmus, Everret and WillyT. We need a Huff to slap the ball, sac fly and improve our situational hitting. Lane was atrocious when it came to situation hitting. Lane's value as a player is grossly overrated at least offensively (even with his "stupid" power).

[geeimsobored]

I'm assuming if this trade does indeed go down, either taveras or lane will be shipped to some other team.

[Rule0001]

Word of advice, never deal with the DBacks, they'll ask for the moom for average players. Also this site sucks.

[geeimsobored]

Word of advice, never deal with the DBacks, they'll ask for the moom for average players. Also this site sucks.

Yea but they got a new owner and fired their nutty GM Chuck LaMarr who was just trying to rip people off left and right. So no one really knows what their new GM thinks and how he will work out.

[aburttschell]

Those are the people fighting for starting positions, at least. Don't forget Lamb as a possible 1B and people like Palmiero getting playing time here and there... as well as Chris Burke. I firmly believe that the Astros were lobbying hard for a package deal to get Tejada, setting themselves up into a position where their bench gets overloaded.

This is exactly what I thought when I read this thread. It seems the Astros are getting more to bargin with concerning Tejada. What if they could work out the original deal. Lane, Adam E., and Lidge for Tejeda (maybe even through in a prospect). Then have ..

Biggio
Tavares
Tejeda
Berkman
Huff
Ensberg
Wilson
Ausmus

That would be nice.

[Rule0001]

Yea but they got a new owner and fired their nutty GM Chuck LaMarr who was just trying to rip people off left and right. So no one really knows what their new GM thinks and how he will work out.

management is different, but their philosophy is still the same. They wanted top prospects for Julio Lugo, which is the reason the Red Sox didn't get him for ss. Also, they have no use for Joey Gathwright, and have been unable to deal him away due to their unreasonable demands. Also, the mets could not agree on a deal for Dany Baez, the DBacks are just tough to deal with.

[sccdct34]

management is different, but their philosophy is still the same. They wanted top prospects for Julio Lugo, which is the reason the Red Sox didn't get him for ss. Also, they have no use for Joey Gathwright, and have been unable to deal him away due to their unreasonable demands. Also, the mets could not agree on a deal for Dany Baez, the DBacks are just tough to deal with.

im sure you have meant to say d-rays all along., but just pointing out its not the d-backs that have those players.

[rezdawg]

This is exactly what I thought when I read this thread. It seems the Astros are getting more to bargin with concerning Tejada. What if they could work out the original deal. Lane, Adam E., and Lidge for Tejeda (maybe even through in a prospect). Then have ..

Biggio
Tavares
Tejeda
Berkman
Huff
Ensberg
Wilson
Ausmus

That would be nice.

Thats a sweet lineup, but who did we trade to get Huff?

[Rule0001]

im sure you have meant to say d-rays all along., but just pointing out its not the d-backs that have those players.


yea, yea i did. DRays, DBacks. You say potato i say tomato. Both teams suck.

[Fegwu]

This is exactly what I thought when I read this thread. It seems the Astros are getting more to bargin with concerning Tejada. What if they could work out the original deal. Lane, Adam E., and Lidge for Tejeda (maybe even through in a prospect). Then have ..

Biggio
Tavares
Tejeda
Berkman
Huff
Ensberg
Wilson
Ausmus

That would be nice.


I know this is dreamcasting but Ensberg will bat ahead of Aubrey should such a sceenario present itself. Also Aubrey is a lefty IIRC. Moving Aubrey to the 2-hole to bat behind WillyT (a hopefully improved WillyT) or Bigde might make a lot of sense since he has good bat control.

[RocketFire]

I love dream casting :D Tejada and huff in the lineup and we only take out Lane. Awesome.

[The Cat]

UPDATE: It now looks to be a three team deal with the Diamondbacks, Devil Rays, and Astros involved (Werth is out of the picture). Huff to the Astros is still the main piece, and the deal supposedly is contingent on Bagwell retiring and freeing up the insurance money. That's all for now.

In other words, not happening.

[mateo]

I'm a big Bags fan, but this sucks.

Stupid ego.

He's gonna get his $17 mil no matter what happens.
But I'm betting he sure isnt going to earn it playing baseball.

[aburttschell]

I'm a big Bags fan, but this sucks.

Stupid ego.

He's gonna get his $17 mil no matter what happens.
But I'm betting he sure isnt going to earn it playing baseball.

Apparently Bagwell has said told the Astros to trade him, if they could. I bring this up only because Hunsicker? is now in Tampa. Bagwell can hit, but he can't throw the ball. If the Astros would eat some of his contract, then it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to trade him to an American league team to use as a DH. Might not have any legs at all, but just thinking.

[msn]

Apparently Bagwell has said told the Astros to trade him, if they could.
Source?

[Master Baiter]

Apparently Bagwell has said told the Astros to trade him, if they could.
I don't believe that for a second. Even if he did, he is untradable due to his contract. There isn't a team in the MLB that will take that chance. Hell, the Astros have him and they don't want to risk it.