Rams @ Texans

[Castor27]

Sunday, Noon on FOX

[Groogrux]

Poor Fox. First exposure to our wonderful team.

Rams 28
Texans 13

[DonnyMost]

We win this one. Guys got embarassed on national tv last week. The Rams defense is bad enough that Carr will throw for 3 TDs. Book it.

[Mr. Brightside]

The Texans will get rammed in the culo.

[TMac640]

how do you say blowout by 50 in french?

[swilkins]

Texans 27
St Louis 24

The Texans stun the world.

[Mr. Brightside]

Texans 27
St Louis 24

The Texans stun the world.


Wow, you guys who predict the Texans to win each week must be the most postive ppl on the planet. Also you'll probably live 15 years longer than me too. :)

[swilkins]

Wow, you guys who predict the Texans to win each week must be the most postive ppl on the planet. Also you'll probably live 15 years longer than me too. :)

Nope. You're wrong.

I predict them winning, because I'm convince the Texans will win just enough games to remove themselves from a top 5 pick.

Not much science, but some superstition.

[PhiSlammaJamma]

Texans start winning to end all hope of high draft pick. No reason to give the fans any hope this year.

Texans 17 Rams 14

[Luckyazn]

Our D sucks
Carr doesn't have time to pass
AJ/Bradford doesnt look like they're into the game
Coaching sucks


JMathis 2 punt return TD ! and the Texans gets a late fg

St. Louis 28
Texans 17

[Luckyazn]

Every week since week 3 I have parley Indy/(Texan's opp.) so far only 1 losing weekend.


Is the point where WINNING IS GOING TO HURT THE TEAM MORE THAN LOSING.

[reggietodd]

The Rams aren't playing well right now, I think it will be a close, high scoring game. Both teams have BAD defenses. I think the Texans can actually win this one, but I hope they don't.

[mateo]

No Bulger = closer game than you think.

[Rocket River]

WE actually can win this game

14 - 10

Texans

Rocket River

[RocketJedi]

Steven Jackson's mouth must be watering. The Texans will show some flashes of quality play, but not enough to win.

Rams 34
Texans 20

[Jet Blast]

No chance for the Rams with Bulger out.

Texans 43
Rams 6

[msn]

No chance for the Rams with Bulger out.

Texans 43
Rams 6
I just laughed root beer all over my keyboard.

Thanks. :D

[SwoLy-D]

Texans 19
Rams 14

:mad: A-Train's usual Texans' bashing in 3... 2... 1...

[JamesC]

Steven Jackson's mouth must be watering.


165 yards, 3 td's.

[msn]

Texans 19
Rams 14

:mad: A-Train's usual Texans' bashing in 3... 2... 1...
Haven't caught this stuff, is it over the top? Because it would seem that bashing of a team that could very well finish 1-15 would be largely accurate.

[Lil Francis]

No Bulger. No Problem


Rams 34
Texans 13


Martin 250 yds passing 2 td 2 Int
Jackson 27 carries 140yds 1td
Holt 9 rec 117yds 1td
Bruce 5rec 65yds 1td

Carr (sucks) 160yds passing 2Int sacked 4times
Davis 20 carries 95yds 1td
D. Robinson Int
M. Coleman Int

[bplld]

I got seats so high the clouds are closer to me than the field.

Texans win, 24-17.

[solid]

I got seats so high the clouds are closer to me than the field.

Texans win, 24-17.

No problem, after you get to the game, just pick one of the 30,000 empty seats.

[bplld]

^Forgot about that. Might even get into a suite.

[Kerfeld]

The Texans better put up some decent offensive numbers. The Rams secondary is one of the worst in the league. This game will tell truly how bad this Texans offense is. If they can not pass against this Rams defense......

[Rocket River]

Buchannon out
Texans 28
Rams 14

Rocket River

[Phillyrocket]

^Forgot about that. Might even get into a suite.

Have any experience at CB? You couldn't be any worse than PBurnt maybe they'll ask you to play :D

Let's think about this, the Rams have a third stringer at QB but after watching tape of Larry Johnson's effort last week why would they even bother throwing the ball? Steven Jackson will go nuts for the first quarter, then the brilliant Houston coaching will make the adjustment and start cheating the LB's towards the line preparing for the run. That's when Kevin Curtis will go nuts. At halftime the Texans will realize there only real chance is to just let the Rams score so that Mathis has a chance to score on the ensuing kickoff.

Rams 48
Texans 20

[bplld]

The Chiefs looked like they stopped kicking it to Mathis, sacrificing a lot of yardage to make sure he doesnt have a chance. A lot of teams are going to start doing that as they realize teh texans offense sucks and the kick return really sets the tone. I am real confident that he will score one TD.

[swilkins]

I have 2 tickets and just found out I can't go. :mad:

[mateo]

Honestly? As sad as this is to say, I am now officially rooting against my team. After considering the SD NYG trade for Manning in 2004, my mouth waters thinking about what we could get for the #1 pick and a small move down. AZ, NYJ, NO, and Tenn all need QBs, and could all end up in the top 5 picks in the draft. Casserly could play these guys against each other to ensure that while a Trojan will be picked with the #1 pick, it will be a different team in that spot.

Please lose. There's no need for a 3-5 win season. You have your win. With the #1 pick in 2006, we can get quick help...and get better faster.

[Drewdog]

Should we even have a "Sticky" for the Texans at this point??

Newsflash - they suck.

[today]

I hate FOX. I'm in College Station and the TV Guide has us getting the Bears/Bucs game. Terrible.

Give me my Texans!!!!!!

[Uprising]

I hate FOX. I'm in College Station and the TV Guide has us getting the Bears/Bucs game. Terrible.

Give me my Texans!!!!!!


Are you serious?! NO WAY! :mad: The game better be on. :(

[today]

Are you serious?! NO WAY! :mad: The game better be on. :(

I even checked FoxSports.com: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1659716

We get Fox44 out of Waco, it broadcasts to Waco, Temple, and Bryan. I sure hope I'm wrong.

[Uprising]

I even checked FoxSports.com: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1659716

We get Fox44 out of Waco, it broadcasts to Waco, Temple, and Bryan. I sure hope I'm wrong.

me too. I really want to watch the game.

[Groogrux]

I'll trade.

[TigerBait]

Should we even have a "Sticky" for the Texans at this point??

Newsflash - they suck.

Yea and the Rockets are playing so much better.

[today]

Looks like it's the radio for those of us in Aggieland...

[Groogrux]

Yea and the Rockets are playing so much better.

Are you really comparing the state of the two franchises?

[Nick]

Gaffney = el droppo.

[Nick]

Wow... that was almost a picture-perfect 91 yard drive.

Also, once again, when they protect Carr consistently... he can make some plays.

[The Real Shady]

That was the best drive all year. So that's what an NFL offense is supposed to look like.

[Uprising]

Looks like it's the radio for those of us in Aggieland...

What station? I can't get 610 on my radio here.

:( This blows.

[Nick]

Carr is having all the time in the world to throw... they're bringing out plays that they haven't been able to run in a real game ever.

[Uprising]

Carr is having all the time in the world to throw... they're bringing out plays that they haven't been able to run in a real game ever.


Great....now I'm really pissed off at FOX. :mad:

[Rule0001]

I'm so disappointed with the Texans. I was really hoping they would lose every game this year but leading 14-0 is crap. If they win today, that would be 2 wins!!!!!! I also hate the retarded hillbilly music just before commercial. That is all. The greatest poster alive has spoken.

[CometsWin]

It looks like they might win today. Damn!!!!

[The Real Shady]

So long Reggie Bush.

With this team's easy remaining schedule no way they end up with the top pick now. Oh well, it's nice to see them playing good on offense. Chester at LT is a stud.

[Nick]

So long Reggie Bush.

With this team's easy remaining schedule no way they end up with the top pick now. Oh well, it's nice to see them playing good on offense. Chester at LT is a stud.

I wouldn't call him a stud... but he's definitely the best option this team has right now (ie - Seth Wand is horrible).

Also, the offense has been in a position today where they haven't had many obvious "must pass" situations... and those are the ones where this o-line has NO chance of maintaining any sort of protection for Carr.

At least we get to become semi-familiar again with the cannon of an arm that David Carr has... he's already gotten to make more downfield throws in the first half of this game than he probably did in any of the other regular season games combined.

[Uprising]

Man, having to listen to this on the radio with a high pitch deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is annoying me. Radio is picking up every kind of sound my Computer emits. (interference)

The team sounds really good today, wish I could be watching this. Wish this was on CBS and I could see it. Damn Fox.

[kaleidosky]

is espn messed up or did DD just throw on 2 straight plays?

[Nick]

is espn messed up or did DD just throw on 2 straight plays?

DD only threw on one... the offense isn't clicking 'that' well...

[Uprising]

Ugh. Sacked. FG, so 17-0 instead of 21-0.

Oh well.

[Rocket River]

Bye Bye bush
Hello another year of the three C's

I never beleive in tanking. . but If we finish on a high note
these clowns may come back . .. again

:(

Rocket River

[Nick]

Bye Bye bush
Hello another year of the three C's

I never beleive in tanking. . but If we finish on a high note
these clowns may come back . .. again

:(

Rocket River

I really don't think Capers will be back, mainly because the "defense" (his primary focus) has been absolutely terrible... and they can't use injuries as an excuse.

Casserly is also the one who drafted Travis Johnson, and the one who traded a ton of picks for Phillip Buchannon, Jason Babin, and Morlon Greenwood.

In reality, a tremendous amount of time/effort/picks/$$$ has been invested in the DEFENSE over this franchise's tenure (far more than they've tried to fix the o-line), and for that... perhaps neither of them should be back.

[Uprising]

Oh man. We just got bailed out.

Fumble by Mathis. but offsides on kick off. thankgod.

[Uprising]

BOOOOM!

TD!

3 TD's by CARR TONIGHT! Man, CARR is back. If you give the guy time. He will produce.

GO CARR!!!

24-3 Texans.

[Nick]

Carr just tackled Bradford during the celebration after the TD pass to him... I think a little of that tackle was Carr saying "You freaking idiot... you dropped half my passes all season... I actually am trying to hurt you right now."

[v3.0]

Whoa...TD from Carr to Bradford....still I think Capers is gone at the very least. Hoping Cass is too.

[Rocket River]

Wow... that was almost a picture-perfect 91 yard drive.

Also, once again, when they protect Carr consistently... he can make some plays.


Probably more to do with the RAMS being horrible

Rocket River

[Major]

According to this:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/gamecenter/live/NFL_20051127_STL@HOU

Seth Wand is 1-1 for 16 yards? Is that right? How did that happen?

[Nick]

Probably more to do with the RAMS being horrible

Rocket River

It actually probably has EVERYTHING to do with the Rams being horrible... but their ineptitude has allowed Texans to do what most average teams do on a game-by-game basis... form a pocket for the QB, and allow him to throw.

After the protection is given, everything else is up to your QB and WR... and Carr has delivered the ball with accuracy and power, and more than once has had the opportunity to look at multiple recievers on one play... things that he hasn't had a chance to show all year.

This line still can't block an average defense... but its good to see that our skills players can take advantage of a below average defense if they get the o-line protection.

[Rule0001]

damnit

they should be tanking

trying to win a game ..... :mad: :mad:

[TigerBait]

It's good to see the offense moving the ball, but were playing against like a college defense in the Rams. Well any college defense besides USC, because they can beat the Texans right?

[Stack24]

What a difference a little time in the pocket gives us....get a damn OL and we will be fine...

[TigerBait]

Are you really comparing the state of the two franchises?

Umm, All I meant was if he was going to make an ignorant comment like that why do we even bother talking about the Rockets, since they are playing bad right now.

Believe it or not but there are some fans that aren't fair weathered, and care about their teams no matter how bad they are doing.

[Remix]

argh Texans winning :mad: 4 teams right now with 1 more win then us. If we win today and all of theme lose its a 5 way tie

[The Real Shady]

argh Texans winning :mad: 4 teams right now with 1 more win then us. If we win today and all of theme lose its a 5 way tie

It' impossible for that to happen. Four of the 2-8 win teams are playing each other.

New Orleans @ New York Jets
San Francisco @ Tennessee

[Kam]

im so confused. :confused:

[Remix]

It' impossible for that to happen. Four of the 2-8 win teams are playing each other.

New Orleans @ New York Jets
San Francisco @ Tennessee
ah ok thats good. I just looked at the standings

[Harrisment]

Why does the clock keep running when our receivers are going out of bounds? That's 3 plays in a row. :confused:

[The Real Shady]

Why does the clock keep running when our receivers are going out of bounds? That's 3 plays in a row. :confused:

It only stops running at the end of the 2nd and 4th quarters.

[Nick]

Why does the clock keep running when our receivers are going out of bounds? That's 3 plays in a row. :confused:

The clock doesn't stop in the 1st and 3rd quarters on out-of-bounds plays... otherwise, games would be 5 hours long.

[Nick]

One good thing about having such an inept o-line... the Texans are experts at picking up the 2-3 yard pass gain, which helps them immensly on the 3rd and short situation.

[Uprising]

What a difference a little time in the pocket gives us....get a damn OL and we will be fine...


Yep, they look much better when the QB has some time.

[Rocket River]

Is it me . .. or is far too many LINEMEN running down Stephen Davis from behind
I am glad we have Dominic Davis

Rocket River

[PhiSlammaJamma]

I think there is a little piece in all of us, that says, I hope they play well, but if they lose I'm certainly not sad about it. I don't think that is a fair weather fan. It's human nature. Everybody wants the team to have fun, and to win, but we all know a good draft pick can change your fortune. Wanting that is ok. It's no different than rooting for a win.

[PhiSlammaJamma]

On a side note, I think this is the 3rd or 4th TD pac-man has gotten, but was called back on a penalty. He's actually been a decent draft pick for Titans in the return game. But still needs some work at db.

[Nick]

Well, for all of you rooting for the loss... there is still hope. Some bone-headed plays by Bell and Smith on this drive.

[Rocket River]

Pass Interference. . . . roughing the passer

Welcome back Mr Bush???

:confused:

Rocket River

[Nick]

I see this every game... yet no announcer or coach seems to ever "get it".

You cannot challenge a fumble call if they ruled the runner down... period... end of story.

[Nick]

No way that Steven Jackson was in... I see conclusive evidence to overturn that.

[The Real Shady]

Well, for all of you rooting for the loss... there is still hope. Some bone-headed plays by Bell and Smith on this drive.

Never underestimate the heart of a loser.

[Astro101]

I just can't root for a team I'm for to lose. So Go Texans...

[leroy420]

I'm just pissed that they're playing this well and it isn't televised in Austin.

DAMN YOU FOX! :mad:

[The Real Shady]

Never underestimate the heart of a loser.

:rolleyes:

[Nick]

Wow... only the Texans can screw this up.... I'm expecting at least overtime now, and likely a loss if the defense is still MIA.

[wiws316]

uh oh :(

[KingCheetah]

wow. :eek:

[liamrock]

Do you think McNair went into the locker room at halftime and told the Texans to ease up? Looks like Bush is ours now.

[oomp]

Why did I waste my time watching this?

[ima_drummer2k]

I can't believe this!

Well, actually, I can...

[Nick]

Bye bye Dom.... your defense sucks.

[UTweezer]

uh...

[Smokey]

That sound of a toilet flushing is Dom Capers job.

Go Rams!

[Raven Lunatic]

That's some impressive chokage.

[randerson153]

Well, at least we are still in the Reggie Bush sweepstakes.

[Rocket River]

Do you think McNair went into the locker room at halftime and told the Texans to ease up? Looks like Bush is ours now.


I agree

Rocket River

[Nick]

Well, at least we are still in the Reggie Bush sweepstakes.

Can he play defense too? Bush wouldn't have helped us that much more today.

[randerson153]

Can he play defense too? Bush wouldn't have helped us that much more today.
He can probably play better defense than what we have now.

[UTweezer]

two back attack with bush and davis would be nice...but we'd have to score atleast 35 points a game to win...


make that 45 if patty comes back

[Nick]

He can probably play better defense than what we have now.

Probably... unfortunately, we need a run stopping lineman, a pass-rushing linebacker, and better free safeties. Maybe he can do all three.

[Baqui99]

That is insane. Houston had a 10 point lead with 30 seconds left.

[UTweezer]

That is insane. Houston had a 10 point lead with 30 seconds left.

death and taxes.

[Nick]

That is insane. Houston had a 10 point lead with 30 seconds left.

And you clearly need the Rams to score a TD here in OT... or "no free money!".

[PhiSlammaJamma]

lol. This is historic crapiness. Meanwhile the Titans are giving up one onside kick after another. They sense the need to lose to.

[Smokey]

What I don't understand is why the Texans didn't call a fair catch on the onside kick?

[jopatmc]

At least JJ is happy. Still a chance to draft Bush and coach the Texans.

[Nick]

What I don't understand is why the Texans didn't call a fair catch on the onside kick?

You can't call a fair catch for a ball that's already hit the ground (as most onside kicks do).

[The Real Shady]

What I don't understand is why the Texans didn't call a fair catch on the onside kick?

I think it bounced off the ground first.

[Smokey]

You can't call a fair catch for a ball that's already hit the ground (as most onside kicks do).

It never hit the ground. I just rewatched it on DVR.

[Summer Song Giver]

Unbelievable, I step away at the two minute warning and we were up ten. What the hell happened?

[Nick]

It never hit the ground. I just rewatched it on DVR.

It hit the ground right off the tee... Wilkins bounced it 30 feet in the air.

[Nick]

A late breaking development... our o-line still sucks (of course Carr had to bail out of there... he's seen how that play develops 100 times in 10 games already).

[Smokey]

It hit the ground right off the tee... Wilkins bounced it 30 feet in the air.

Damn you're right after further review. Makes sense why you would want to bounce it.

[Smokey]

Who wants to see a draw?

[Nick]

Who wants to see a draw?

It won't happen... these defenses aren't going to suddenly start playing well enough in OT to force that.

[UTweezer]

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS NOW

[Nick]

Free money!

[Smokey]

boooooooooooo

[Summer Song Giver]

LOVELY :confused:

[Nick]

We need more picks, more defense, and an o-line.

Any talk of a "sexy pick" of Reggie Bush is way too pre-mature. This team needs depth, depth, DEPTH.... and the best way to do that is getting multiple picks for the next 3 years.

[NewRoxFan]

Hate to say it... a$$'s better be fired tomorrow... :mad:

[CometsWin]

That was awesome. lol The number one pick must be ours!!!

[v3.0]

And who said we're out of the Reggie Bush sweepstakes.... :(

[Jared Novak]

Hate to say it... a$$'s better be fired tomorrow... :mad:

I whole heartedly agree, someone should get the axe after today's letdown.

[UTweezer]

We need more picks, more defense, and an o-line.

Any talk of a "sexy pick" of Reggie Bush is way too pre-mature. This team needs depth, depth, DEPTH.... and the best way to do that is getting multiple picks for the next 3 years.


i agree, but what good are those picks if we get guys like babin and travis johnson.

[pgabriel]

A late breaking development... our o-line still sucks (of course Carr had to bail out of there... he's seen how that play develops 100 times in 10 games already).


the way you've been riding carr's jock this whole thread I see why he collasped along with the rest of the team.

[Rocket River]

Crazy Crazy Crazy

Rocket River

[The Real Shady]

Amazing game by the Texans. Way to battle back after taking a lead. #1 pick here we come. This is a team of destiny!

[gucci888]

I think we've basically sealed the #1 pick and an entire coaching overhaul for this team. Unbelievable game, as much as that was disappointing, it is probably the best thing to happen to this franchise this year.

[Nick]

the way you've been riding carr's jock this whole thread I see why he collasped along with the rest of the team.

Yea... this whole game was Carr's fault... :rolleyes:

[JunkyardDwg]

Wow...this team has found another way to be horrible. Just when I was becoming content with them winning a game too.

[reggietodd]

sweet. we still have a chance a reggie bush.

[oomp]

Disgusting. I don't know why I root for Houston teams. Apparently picks are more important than pride.

[Nick]

i agree, but what good are those picks if we get guys like babin and travis johnson.

Then you bring someone in who can draft well... I already said earlier in this thread that Casserly should be let go for his awful handling of draft picks for the defense, and his lack of focus in building an o-line that can pass block.

[Bobblehead]

Whew...that was WAY to close for comfort.
Almost lost the #1 pick. Good job Capers...very Oilers-Billsesque!!

[apostolic3]

As a symbolic move, Capers should be fired. It wouldn't do any good for this year and I don't know who should be named interim head coach. At this point, it's not enough for Bob McNair to say he's not making any moves until the season ends. This is truly incredible. The nadir.

[UTweezer]

Then you bring someone in who can draft well... I already said earlier in this thread that Casserly should be let go for his awful handling of draft picks for the defense, and his lack of focus in building an o-line that can pass block.

that oline better be made of steel and have blinders that hide Carrs line of sight from the other team, because Carr is shellshocked scared and just about done.

[IC2000]

Wow...this team has found another way to be horrible. Just when I was becoming content with them winning a game too.

It sucks that they blew it BUT ...this game went well. The team as a whole looked good today. Carr and johnson were great. Then we had a huge meltdown and we lost. This will help us get the number one pick. that win would have done nothing for us. We have to get rid of all the coaches and get reggie bush

[JoeBarelyCares]

REGGIE! REGGIE! REGGIE!

[pgabriel]

Yea... this whole game was Carr's fault... :rolleyes:


dude, we know you are a carr fan, you don't have to remind us every post of every texans thread. I didn't say the game was carr's fault, but the team only scored 3 second half points, everyone's to blame. you go into carr defend mode, line bash mode before anyone even says anything. that's all you freakin posted about in the entire thread. are you on his payroll?

[Smokey]

It wouldn't matter who the interim (off the current staff) is cause there's going to be house cleaning when the new coach from the outside is hired.

[Rule0001]

excellent lol

[Smokey]

I think I dislike Capers more than Jimy Williams.

[desihooper]

A perfect example of how to lose and make it look like you were trying to win :cool:

[ima_drummer2k]

I can't believe so many people think Desmond Howard...er, uh, Reggie Bush is going to help this team.

[adw]

Wow just sad.

[Nick]

dude, we know you are a carr fan, you don't have to remind us every post of every texans thread. I didn't say the game was carr's fault, but the team only scored 3 second half points, everyone's to blame. you go into carr defend mode, line bash mode before anyone even says anything. that's all you freakin posted about in the entire thread. are you on his payroll?

Actually, I thought most of my posts were about how horrible the defense was.... and yet when we lose, posts are made bashing Carr.

I'm not a Carr "fan"... I'm just sick of him getting all the blame when things go wrong, and ZERO credit when he actually has a decent game. Also, I started my defense of him this year because people were advocating for Matt Leinert... and even you know now that this team needs much more than that, and any other QB on this team would not amount to that much more than what we're getting from Carr already, and would set our progress back even more than it already is.

Even with an o-line, this team will still have a terrible defense. I'm now advocating for simply getting rid of the entire coaching staff, GM, and just simply start stockpiling draft picks and find somebody who can build a winner.

Finally, I never went out hunting for an argument with you... you simply jumped at the opportuny once the game was over to ridicule my posts. I can say just as much that you are "anti-Carr, all the time" as you may think I am a "carr fan"... so any other bickering by you is purely hypocritical at best.

[Drewdog]

That was a really good loss. Just when you think this was the one game we could win..... NOPE!

:mad:

And oh yeah hey David Carr - wipe that friggin sh!t eating grin off your face and get mean, your team is 1-10!!!

[TigerBait]

I can't believe so many people think Desmond Howard...er, uh, Reggie Bush is going to help this team.

And who would you pick? Furgeson? After seeing him get abused against VT I'm not so sure he could either.

[pradaxpimp]

god, i thought we almost blew the number 1 pick with that kind of passion.

[Rocket River]

Actually, I thought most of my posts were about how horrible the defense was.... and yet when we lose, posts are made bashing Carr.

I'm not a Carr "fan"... I'm just sick of him getting all the blame when things go wrong, and ZERO credit when he actually has a decent game. Also, I started my defense of him this year because people were advocating for Matt Leinert... and even you know now that this team needs much more than that, and any other QB on this team would not amount to that much more than what we're getting from Carr already, and would set our progress back even more than it already is.


you mean like folx bashed Steve Francis no matter what???

Rocket River

[Uprising]

I think I have throw up in my mouth.

[Nick]

you mean like folx bashed Steve Francis no matter what???

Rocket River

And I was not one of them either... I supported the T-mac trade because it was a great opportunity that we could not pass up (I recognized that we really weren't giving up that much, if T-Mac could just play defense like he did in Toronto... which he did). But, when Steve was here... I also thought then that the guy got far too much criticism.

The NFL is, however, different. Its rarely ever the fault of "one guy". Joe Montana isn't going to turn this team around if he's the one under center. I'd rather more time/effort be spent fixing the real problems on this team.

I don't think anybody was expecting the defense to be this bad, especially after we've invested 3 #1 picks into it (Babin, Robinson, Johnson)... and some more extra picks in Buchannon. I guess we simply underestimated this bunch.

[Harrisment]

Awesome.

[Uprising]

Great posts Nick. I feel the same way man, he is getting flammed by others. And I don't think all the criticism is warranted.

[pgabriel]

well I'm not trying to blame carr for the loss, I'm just saying no one is immune after a collaspe like that.

[Trader_Jorge]

you mean like folx bashed Steve Francis no matter what???

Rocket River
Francis had personality issues that David Carr doesn't have. Francis was a prima donna who was selfish on the court and was amongst the league leaders in technical fouls. And who can forget when he dissed the team plane to Phoenix to go to the Super Bowl? He also refused to play in Vancouver before he even started his career. Francis represented everything that is wrong with the modern athlete. Carr is the exact opposite -- a humble man of good character -- who by the way almost had 300 yards worth of passing today.

[DonnyMost]

This loss was no accident.

Texans, No.1 pick 2006.

TRADE THAT SUCKER

[pgabriel]

Francis had personality issues that David Carr doesn't have. Francis was a prima donna who was selfish on the court and was amongst the league leaders in technical fouls. And who can forget when he dissed the team plane to Phoenix to go to the Super Bowl? He also refused to play in Vancouver before he even started his career. Francis represented everything that is wrong with the modern athlete. Carr is the exact opposite -- a humble man of good character -- who by the way almost had 300 yards worth of passing today.


francis also represents a person who had to play at two junior colleges, no high school ball, lost both of his parents in his childhood. but idiots who don't know anything about him call him a prima donna because they have no idea what he had to overcome to get to the level he's at. he's far from the modern day athlete who has everything handed to them from the seventh grade when someone recognizes their talent. its all about perception which your post proves as usual.

carr has had arguments with coaches on sidelines and is not the unquestioned leader of his team like francis was so I would chill on the character comparison also.

[Trader_Jorge]

francis also represents a person who had to play at two junior colleges, no high school ball, lost both of his parents in his childhood. but idiots who don't know anything about him call him a prima donna because they have no idea what he had to overcome to get to the level he's at. he's far from the modern day athlete who has everything handed to them from the seventh grade when someone recognizes their talent. its all about perception which your post proves as usual.

carr has had arguments with coaches on sidelines and is not the unquestioned leader of his team like francis was so I would chill on the character comparison also.
Are you calling me an idiot? Please calm down.

I don't think his family upbringing or his Juco ball led to him selfishly skipping out on the team plane to Phoenix. I doubt they factored into his technical fouls or his refusing to play in Vancouver. Everyone around the league thought he was a prima donna, it wasn't just a select few who "didn't understand him." That's silly.

The fact that Carr is married helps his character as well, since he's not out "in da club" all the time or trying to chase Beyonce at a Super Bowl party.

[pgabriel]

Are you calling me an idiot? Please calm down.

I don't think his family upbringing or his Juco ball led to him selfishly skipping out on the team plane to Phoenix. I doubt they factored into his technical fouls or his refusing to play in Vancouver. Everyone around the league thought he was a prima donna, it wasn't just a select few who "didn't understand him." That's silly.

The fact that Carr is married helps his character as well, since he's not out "in da club" all the time or trying to chase Beyonce at a Super Bowl party.


and I'm married and you're not. that explains it.


all us married folk are better than you skirt chasing devils.

some of the things you post are priceless.

[The Real Shady]

Did anyone here Jimmy Johnson at half time say he thought the Texans should bench Carr and DD so they won't lose the #1 pick? hmmmmmmm.

[Raven Lunatic]

You guys are derailing this thread. We need to get back to wallowing in how deliciously horrible our football team is. Francis is in the past, man.

[Trader_Jorge]

and I'm married and you're not. that explains it.


all us married folk are better than you skirt chasing devils.

some of the things you post are priceless.
Ok, now you've pretty much gone overboard.

Being married and having a child has helped keep David Carr grounded. It adds to his maturity and gives him perspective. This is not hard to understand, but if you'd prefer to blow your top and rant, please continue.

[Trader_Jorge]

Did anyone here Jimmy Johnson at half time say he thought the Texans should bench Carr and DD so they won't lose the #1 pick? hmmmmmmm.
If JJ took the head coaching job, I would be ecstatic. And this is coming from someone who hated him when he was with the Cowboys. He knows how to win, that's for sure.

[Rocket River]

Did anyone here Jimmy Johnson at half time say he thought the Texans should bench Carr and DD so they won't lose the #1 pick? hmmmmmmm.


That sparked my interest as well.

Rocket River

[pgabriel]

You guys are derailing this thread. We need to get back to wallowing in how deliciously horrible our football team is. Francis is in the past, man.


I apologize. I got distracted by that none married devil who has no character. Back to the Texans.

[pgabriel]

Ok, now you've pretty much gone overboard.

Being married and having a child has helped keep David Carr grounded. It adds to his maturity and gives him perspective. This is not hard to understand, but if you'd prefer to blow your top and rant, please continue.


no problem, I'm grounded, you're not, because I'm married. All those married people like Daryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Bill Rominowski, it does a great job of grounding them. L.T. was married I believe. I believe Roy Tarpley was married because he took an iron to his wife's stomach. Marraige, I understand your point completely. :rolleyes:

[Trader_Jorge]

pgabs, read this article. It echoes what I've been saying.

http://www.nfl.com/ce/feature/0,3783,5079620,00.html

Besides his talented right arm, Carr has something else that makes him extremely attractive to the Texans and most of the NFL's 31 other teams: Maturity.

"I hear a lot about that," he said. "I think I might be more grounded than someone else, some other players. Maybe I'm a little bit more mature than other guys maybe because I've changed more diapers than other guys have.

"I've got to take care of my wife and my son. If that makes me more mature on the field, then so be it. But I've got a lot of responsibilities out there that I've got to take care of more than just football. And I've got them all handled."

Carr has been married for three years. He and his wife, Melody, have a 20-month-old son named Austin.

I accept your apology in advance.

[MadMax]

that oline better be made of steel and have blinders that hide Carrs line of sight from the other team, because Carr is shellshocked scared and just about done.

did you watch the game??

i thought Carr was done, too. i thought he was shell-shocked and wasn't capable of being an NFL starter any more...or at least I thought that was the way he was going.

after watching today, i know i was wrong. the guy can still play. he made some sensational passes today. he checked off receivers. and he used his legs to buy time when he needed to.

the defense cost us this game. over 300 yards passing in only 3 quarters to a 3rd string QB. inexcusable. you got a 10 point lead with 30 seconds and you can't protect it? unbelievable.

[Nick]

If JJ took the head coaching job, I would be ecstatic. And this is coming from someone who hated him when he was with the Cowboys. He knows how to win, that's for sure.

More importantly, he knows how to build a TEAM, and knows you have to build from the foundation up. He's probably laughing at Casserly for drafting defenders that only fit Caper's 3-4 system, not addressing the o-line in all 4 years of existence, trading all your extra expansion picks (and the Drew Henson pick) for dime-a-dozen guys like Babin, Buchannon, and Greenwood, giving big contracts to aging players (G. Walker) while letting the ones go that actually helped make a difference (Glenn, Sharper).

Pretty much everything has gone wrong for Casserly... it wouldn't take much to improve upon his work.

[pgabriel]

I know the Texans liked Carr because of his marraige, and I thought it was stupid then and its stupid now. It proves nothing. Its a stereotype and given your posting history I'm not surprised you're are using it as proof of his maturity or character. There is a reason that job applications cannot ask you if you are married, because of the same stereotype you are using in this debate. I showed you proof that people who are married are no more immune from off the field problems as people who aren't. Its just a stereotype, that article proves nothing. Other than the texans believe in stereotypes.

[bplld]

I know the Texans liked Carr because of his marraige, and I thought it was stupid then and its stupid now. It proves nothing. Its a stereotype and given your posting history I'm not surprised you're are using it as proof of his maturity or character. There is a reason that job applications cannot ask you if you are married, because of the same stereotype you are using in this debate. I showed you proof that people who are married are no more immune from off the field problems as people who aren't. Its just a stereotype, that article proves nothing. Other than the texans believe in stereotypes.

You want proof of his maturity? How about the number of time he gets sacked every game for the past 4 years. I have never heard of a QB who takes as many hits as him. What does he do everytime? HE gets right back up and keeps playing. Thats maturity right there. Most QBs would have given up.

This is guy is really good. Today the o-line gave him the oppurtunity, and he delivered. Everyone seems to forget last season, he was one of the better quarterbacks in the nfl, with a good qb rating and everything. HE has clear talent, and i am confident he will take us to the playoffs. You guys who say he sucks and we need a new QB dont watch the Texans. You look at the numbers and the loss column.

[pgabriel]

This is guy is really good. Today the o-line gave him the oppurtunity, and he delivered. Everyone seems to forget last season, he was one of the better quarterbacks in the nfl, with a good qb rating and everything. HE has clear talent, and i am confident he will take us to the playoffs. You guys who say he sucks and we need a new QB dont watch the Texans. You look at the numbers and the loss column.


I never said he was immature, I never said I wanted to get rid of him. yes I do look at the loss column, and actually I just got off track in the argument but my only contention about the treatment Carr gets and Francis got is that Francis had more success individually and team wise than carr but carr has gotten a free ride in this town until this season.

and honestly the only time carr has deserved criticism is this season.

[MadMax]

why do so many threads degenerate into Steve Francis threads??? seriously...i'm waiting for the What's In Your CD Player to evolve into a Francis debate.

[Rocket River]

why do so many threads degenerate into Steve Francis threads??? seriously...i'm waiting for the What's In Your CD Player to evolve into a Francis debate.

. . .cause ya'll ran him out of town unjustly
and give others a free pass . . .who are doing worse

Rocket River
:D

[MadMax]

. . .cause ya'll ran him out of town unjustly
and give others a free pass . . .who are doing worse

Rocket River
:D

Truman beat Dewey, too. it's history.

oh..and if we could trade Carr to get a guy comparable to T-Mac as a football player...i'm for it. where do i sign??

[codell]

. . .cause ya'll ran him out of town unjustly
and give others a free pass . . .who are doing worse

Rocket River
:D

Who is "ya'll"?

I certainly never remember seeing MadMax pining for a SF trade.

In fact, MM never even posts in the GARM.

:)

[JPM0016]

This game was on Fox so i'm assuming Jimmy Johnson had something to say today. Anything?

[Hippieloser]

I ran him out of town. It was me.

[BMoney]

why do so many threads degenerate into Steve Francis threads??? seriously...i'm waiting for the What's In Your CD Player to evolve into a Francis debate.


Now listening to- "I Miss You (Cuttino Come Home)" -Steve Francis

-Pgabriel

[reggietodd]

Nick and The Cat are in love with David Carr. It is now official.

[Bobblehead]

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3314/vomit6ew.jpg

[pgabriel]

Now listening to- "I Miss You (Cuttino Come Home)" -Steve Francis

-Pgabriel


I didn't mention Steve in this thread until he got his character falsely bashed again.

but thanks for thinking of me.

[gucci888]

This game was on Fox so i'm assuming Jimmy Johnson had something to say today. Anything?

He was probably packing up his desk.

[gunn]

This game was on Fox so i'm assuming Jimmy Johnson had something to say today. Anything?

At half time he said, "Bob McNair, What are you doing? Do you not want Reggie Bush? Pull Carr, Johnson, and Davis for the rest of the season."

[russian88]

He was telling mcnair "If you want me to coach your team next year, get reggie bush". :p

[solid]

Forget Reggie Bush, if the Texans don't completely rebuild their offensive line during the draft and off-season, I will not attend or watch another game until they do. It was incredibly stupid for them to not fix the OL this last off season, to not do so again would be beyond retarded. If I was Carr I would have a long talk with the powers that be on this one, because his career is at risk. He might not survive another year behind this group.

[bottlerocket]

Reggie,Reggie,Reggie,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Real Shady]

Forget Reggie Bush, if the Texans don't completely rebuild their offensive line during the draft and off-season, I will not attend or watch another game until they do. It was incredibly stupid for them to not fix the OL this last off season, to not do so again would be beyond retarded. If I was Carr I would have a long talk with the powers that be on this one, because his career is at risk. He might not survive another year behind this group.

The Texans do have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks where they can address the o-line. Chester Pitts has showed the ability to play LT so that position is no longer a top priority. Other positions like RT, OG, and C can be upgraded in later rounds. There are going to be a ton of RT that will be available in the 2nd round like Jeremy Trueblood-Boston College, Andrew Whitworth-LSU, and possibly Marcus McNeil. I would also like to see them use one of their 3rd round picks on an OG.

Just because the Texans select Bush with the #1 pick doesn't mean they can't improve the OL.

[Rocket River]

The Texans do have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks where they can address the o-line. Chester Pitts has showed the ability to play LT so that position is no longer a top priority. Other positions like RT, OG, and C can be upgraded in later rounds. There are going to be a ton of RT that will be available in the 2nd round like Jeremy Trueblood-Boston College, Andrew Whitworth-LSU, and possibly Marcus McNeil. I would also like to see them use one of their 3rd round picks on an OG.

Just because the Texans select Bush with the #1 pick doesn't mean they can't improve the OL.


the guy that hurt his foot is a decent center

Rocket River

[Harrisment]

The Texans do have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks where they can address the o-line. Chester Pitts has showed the ability to play LT so that position is no longer a top priority. Other positions like RT, OG, and C can be upgraded in later rounds. There are going to be a ton of RT that will be available in the 2nd round like Jeremy Trueblood-Boston College, Andrew Whitworth-LSU, and possibly Marcus McNeil. I would also like to see them use one of their 3rd round picks on an OG.

Just because the Texans select Bush with the #1 pick doesn't mean they can't improve the OL.

I agree, Pitts has done fairly well at LT....I just wished they would have never moved him from there. The whole Seth Wand experiment is what really set this OL back a few years.

After watching D'brick get owned by Virginia Tech, I just don't think he is worthy of a top 5 pick. Take the best available player, and address the line with your other picks and possibly free agency.

There were many people crying that we didn't take Alex Barron, the top offensive lineman in last years draft....but he has been a big dissapointment for the Rams. Hell, even the Texans were able to get constant pressure on the QB yesterday!

[Groogrux]

I'll be honest, the last couple of games may have swayed me towards taking Bush. Our OL has looked pretty damn decent. Add a couple of decent free agents or an early 2nd round draft pick and take Bush. Or, I'd even be in favor of trading down a couple of spots, getting more picks and taking a stud defensive player.

[reggietodd]

I'll be honest, the last couple of games may have swayed me towards taking Bush. Our OL has looked pretty damn decent. Add a couple of decent free agents or an early 2nd round draft pick and take Bush. Or, I'd even be in favor of trading down a couple of spots, getting more picks and taking a stud defensive player.

RM95, is that you? Or did someone log into your account, lol.

[Groogrux]

RM95, is that you? Or did someone log into your account, lol.

Teehee. I think I'd still lean towards a defensive stud, I just don't know who that might be.

[droxford]

He was telling mcnair "If you want me to coach your team next year, get reggie bush". :p

Did he really say this? Wow! That means that JJ has serious considerations of coaching the Texans! Woo hooo!

Let's get us some Bush!!!!

[solid]

The Texans do have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks where they can address the o-line. Chester Pitts has showed the ability to play LT so that position is no longer a top priority. Other positions like RT, OG, and C can be upgraded in later rounds. There are going to be a ton of RT that will be available in the 2nd round like Jeremy Trueblood-Boston College, Andrew Whitworth-LSU, and possibly Marcus McNeil. I would also like to see them use one of their 3rd round picks on an OG.

Just because the Texans select Bush with the #1 pick doesn't mean they can't improve the OL.

You know what, you make sense. As long as they do it, I'm O.K. But just think of the number of Heisman winners that never made it in the NFL. Bush is apparently a superman kind of player. Who knows, but the Texans can't afford to make too many more mistakes.

[pgabriel]

I understand JJ had success at Dallas but that was a unique situation with the Walker trade. he got to build that team ground up like a college team with unlimited scholarships.

when he had to coach a team already in place on the fly in Miami he didn't do so well.

I have my reservations about him.

[droxford]

I understand JJ had success at Dallas but that was a unique situation with the Walker trade. he got to be that team ground up like a college team with unlimited scholarships.

when he had to coach a team already in place on the fly in Miami he didn't do so well.

I have my reservations about him.

True, but he'd probably get to re-build the Texans from the ground up if he wanted to.

Honestly, after this season, if JJ came in and said, "you need to fire this guy and that guy. We need to trade that guy. We need to sign these free agents and draft these guys...." I bet McNair would have no problems at all complying with whatever JJ said.

I mean, what's the argument to the contrary? "No, JJ. Those guys are proven winners and we don't want to make our team worse." We can't get any worse.

No, I would think that JJ would have LOTS of room to make changes in the Texans.

[jopatmc]

I'll be honest, the last couple of games may have swayed me towards taking Bush. Our OL has looked pretty damn decent. Add a couple of decent free agents or an early 2nd round draft pick and take Bush. Or, I'd even be in favor of trading down a couple of spots, getting more picks and taking a stud defensive player.


St Louis has the 30th ranked defense in the NFL and have only made 26 sacks the whole season. Their defense is 2 spots above us and has made 5 more sacks than our defense has. If you think our offensive line is fixed because we looked good yesterday................you'd better think again. We have 3 holes to fill up there. Keep Pitts, move him to guard, keep McKinney at the other guard, and draft 2 tackles and a center.

[reggietodd]

We have 3 holes to fill up there. Keep Pitts, move him to guard, keep McKinney at the other guard, and draft 2 tackles and a center.

We can do this and still get Reggie Bush if we have the #1 pick. Do you think 3 rookie offensive linemen are going to fill these 3 holes you speak of?

And also I don't think RM95 is saying his mind changed just because of this one game. The OL has looked "decent" over the past few games.

[swilkins]

We can do this and still get Reggie Bush if we have the #1 pick. Do you think 3 rookie offensive linemen are going to fill these 3 holes you speak of?

And also I don't think RM95 is saying his mind changed just because of this one game. The OL has looked "decent" over the past few games.

Reggie,

I'm going to jump on your bandwagon. At first I wanted Brick, but really don't see him making the immediate impact that Bush would. The Texans OL has not looked as bad in the last 5 games as they did in the first 6.

[MadMax]

I'll be honest, the last couple of games may have swayed me towards taking Bush. Our OL has looked pretty damn decent. Add a couple of decent free agents or an early 2nd round draft pick and take Bush. Or, I'd even be in favor of trading down a couple of spots, getting more picks and taking a stud defensive player.

man, i was thinking that same thing. the OL SEEMS to be getting better. that doesn't mean that i don't want it addressed...it just means we may not have to use a first round pick to address the problem. we may be able to spend that pick on a guy like bush...or even some defensive help...instead of drafting a tackle.

[Dubious]

I have been a 'trade down' proponent. Use the hype to turn one shot at greatness into 2 or three shots at good players. But I'm leaning toward Bush.

#1 Jimmy likes him, and who? who else can the Texans bring in that will lend instant credibility to the Texans rebuilding effort (Ron Wolfe maybe). If Jimmy wants him, I want him.

#2 even with 3 top rookie OL's you aren't going to turn it around in one year. OL takes some experience and is never a slam dunk Goss Gallery Barron etc etc. It is said that a good rookie RB is good right off the bat. (makes you wonder about Ron Dayne, Rashaam Salaam, Ricky Bell, Ki-Jana Carter, Curtis Enis)

3. It would make next year more fun to watch, winning would be fun too but it would be fun to wonder "what will Reggie do?" (sorta like Tmac)

[msn]

(quotes David Crowder in sig)
Sorry to be off-topic, but are you quoting David Crowder of the David Crowder band? I love that guy.

[Hippieloser]

Did he really say this? Wow! That means that JJ has serious considerations of coaching the Texans! Woo hooo!

Just to be clear, he DID NOT actually say this. Johnson merely advocated that McNair take Carr and Davis out of the game at halftime to ensure that the Texans would get Bush. He did not so much as hint that he wanted to coach the Texans.

He sure seemed to be high on Bush, though...!

[rrj_gamz]

Reggie,Reggie,Reggie,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Reggie, but if we don't have a decent O-line, he won't do crap...Yes, he is a playmaker, but even King Kong couldn't run behind that line...

[droxford]

... [Jimmy Johnson] DID NOT actually say this. ... . He did not so much as hint that he wanted to coach the Texans.
doh!
http://photobucket.com/albums/v223/droxford/Simpsons/th_homer002.gif

[MadMax]

Sorry to be off-topic, but are you quoting David Crowder of the David Crowder band? I love that guy.

i am. and i do, too. i have been going to ecclesia, the church started here in Houston by the same guy who founded University Baptist in Waco.

[jopatmc]

We can do this and still get Reggie Bush if we have the #1 pick. Do you think 3 rookie offensive linemen are going to fill these 3 holes you speak of?

And also I don't think RM95 is saying his mind changed just because of this one game. The OL has looked "decent" over the past few games.


The OL has looked "decent" over the past few games because they have been playing junky defenses and we've been throwing the 5 yard out passes where the OL only has to protect for say............ 1/2 a second. This OL cannot protect against the average NFL defensive line, much less a playoff defensive line. We can cover up the mess up there with 1/2 second drop and throws and then with the downfield game against the worst defenses in the league but not against any quality opponent.

We don't have any choice to get quality tackles but out of the draft. Quality tackles ARE NOT available in free agency. Teams realize the importance and the value of those guys and they lock them up with long term deals or they designate them with the franchise tag and make it impossible to get them. You gotta get offensive tackles through the draft and to have any reasonable opportunity for success, you gotta draft them early. You have a much better chance of finding a gem running back in the 4th, 5th round, or later than you do a quality tackle. Now an offensive center, you can find a quality starting center in the middle rounds of the draft. They aren't a great priority. But we do need 3 offensive lineman. At least 2 of them need to come out of the first 2 rounds of the draft, preferrably the first round of the draft. We should hold up the whole league and make them pay a king's ranson for Bush but we should trade him. One player doesn't fix this team.

[swilkins]

The OL has looked "decent" over the past few games because they have been playing junky defenses and we've been throwing the 5 yard out passes where the OL only has to protect for say............ 1/2 a second. This OL cannot protect against the average NFL defensive line, much less a playoff defensive line. We can cover up the mess up there with 1/2 second drop and throws and then with the downfield game against the worst defenses in the league but not against any quality opponent.

We don't have any choice to get quality tackles but out of the draft. Quality tackles ARE NOT available in free agency. Teams realize the importance and the value of those guys and they lock them up with long term deals or they designate them with the franchise tag and make it impossible to get them. You gotta get offensive tackles through the draft and to have any reasonable opportunity for success, you gotta draft them early. You have a much better chance of finding a gem running back in the 4th, 5th round, or later than you do a quality tackle. Now an offensive center, you can find a quality starting center in the middle rounds of the draft. They aren't a great priority. But we do need 3 offensive lineman. At least 2 of them need to come out of the first 2 rounds of the draft, preferrably the first round of the draft. We should hold up the whole league and make them pay a king's ranson for Bush but we should trade him. One player doesn't fix this team.

I think the OL is better (recently) than you give them credit.

I think we can still draft Bush and pick up 2 quality linemen. The rookie center (Hodgdon) played well at center (before he got injured). That placed McCrappy at LG and Pitts at LT. Pitts is not a bad left tackle, which allows us to draft Bush and pick up a RT and possibly a LG (if McCrappy is released).

I think the point about Bush is not the fact that he is the missing piece. He is a special talent that any NFL team would jump on. We could seal the RB for years to come with Bush.

[msn]

i am. and i do, too. i have been going to ecclesia, the church started here in Houston by the same guy who founded University Baptist in Waco.
Excellent. Loved his book.

[MadMax]

Excellent. Loved his book.

which book?

are you in houston? which chuch do you go to?

[msn]

which book?

are you in houston? which chuch do you go to?
This one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576836703/002-3588255-8121629?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance).

I'm not in Houston, but I come as often as I can. I go to a great church, but I'm shy (perhaps stupidly so) about posting personal stuff on the web.

(sorry for the minor hijack)

[Saint Louis]

I was in town for Thanksgiving and was in attendance at Reliant. Talk about the most pitiful showing of two NFL teams I have ever seen. I was actually chalking it up as a loss for the Rams at halftime. I didn't even know who was quarterbacking them. I know the Texans defense stinks, but the Texans should have been able to score another 24 points on the lousy Rams defense.

Wilkins onside kick was perfection. None of this squib along the ground junk. You kick it into the ground and make it jump up high in the air. A thing of beauty to watch.

I didn't rub in the win with my Texans fans. I may want another ticket to a game in the future, besides its not like the Rams are going anywhere this year. Enjoy the first pick in the draft. Spend it wisely.

[MadMax]

This one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1576836703/002-3588255-8121629?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance).

I'm not in Houston, but I come as often as I can. I go to a great church, but I'm shy (perhaps stupidly so) about posting personal stuff on the web.

(sorry for the minor hijack)

sorry...i thought you meant Chris Seay's books. he's the pastor of ecclesia. i thought that was who you were referring to.

i haven't read crowder's book, yet.